One piccie that had me stumped in the Retro booklet - who IS this?!
I ain't got a clue.. It's surely not a very, very young Gretton?

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One piccie that had me stumped in the Retro booklet - who IS this?!
I ain't got a clue.. It's surely not a very, very young Gretton?

I assumed it was John McReady (sp? sounds like a McDonald's sandwich)
McCready, sorry :D
Non sense when I check it again, since it's written at the beginning of Miranda Sawyer's part...
Yeah - it is him.
People always remember him with the big glasses don't they? The eyes are exactly the same.
Who else could it be? Vini Reilly??!
And who is the coloured guy in the trench coat with Peter Saville on the next page.....Erasmus?
Originally posted by Old Blue And who is the coloured guy in the trench coat with Peter Saville on the next page.....Erasmus?
must be. I don´t have retro and don´t know the picture but surely is him. in fact I think he´s the only coloured guy that was near New Order. well, john barnes doesn´t count. neither does A Certain Ratio´s drummer. yeah, must be alan erasmus.
in fact, it was rob gretton. check this pic out

nice pics in this site. there´re a couple of martin hannett too. I had never seen any picture of him before http://www.enkiri.com/joy/pics/pics.html
talking about alan erasmus... didn´t know he was an actor. apparently he performed during the early 70s. here´s one movie: hard labour http://www.sff.ba/Program/hard_labour.shtml
if you didn´t know or want to know a little more about the people that surrounded NO/JD check this site out http://www.cerysmatic.clara.net/Factory/index.html?factorialtext.html
Originally posted by almanso talking about alan erasmus... didn´t know he was an actor. apparently he performed during the early 70s. here´s one movie: hard labourhttp://www.sff.ba/Program/hard_labour.shtmlif you didn´t know or want to know a little more about the people that surrounded NO/JD check this site outhttp://www.cerysmatic.clara.net/Factory/index.html?factorialtext.html
Yeah i have used this site before and very good info indeed.
You should see the pictures of me with HAIR.Good God it is so amusing!:D:D
Rocket Hairless in CHORLEY Mick
Originally posted by almanso in fact, it was rob gretton. check this pic outnice pics in this site. there´re a couple of martin hannett too. I had never seen any picture of him beforehttp://www.enkiri.com/joy/pics/pics.html
Personally, I still can't see it - he's got the grey hair and beard, sure, but identity is usually made through the eyes and don't see any similarity there. He looks all wide-eyed in the first, whereas I've always remembered Gretton looking like he's half-cut in every pic, as the second shot shows.
Nice website with pics though - interesting to read the personal gig reviews. (Not sure Arthur Baker would like to be mistaken for Alan Wise though!).
Originally posted by Al Jarvis One piccie that had me stumped in the Retro booklet - who IS this?! I ain't got a clue.. It's surely not a very, very young Gretton?
it looks like donald sutherland!
Originally posted by almanso nice pics in this site. there´re a couple of martin hannett too. I had never seen any picture of him before
Really? These pictures were stolen from the Martin Hannett fansite (http://freespace.virgin.net/anna.b/hannett/hannett.htm). This guy also stole some pics from my Joy Division website. Well, I must be stealing someone too, since I never pay copyrights when I scan a photo from a book or magazine. :D
I have another picture you'll like: Martin Hannett in his "big" days producing the Mondays (nicked from Mojo, December 2002).

In the above pic, Hannett looks like a cross between Shane McGowan and Rory McGrath!
Oh yes, the first pic is indeed Mr. Gretton R.I.P.
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Originally posted by Al Jarvis One piccie that had me stumped in the Retro booklet - who IS this?! I ain't got a clue.. It's surely not a very, very young Gretton?
its freddie mercurys brother.
Originally posted by Al Jarvis One piccie that had me stumped in the Retro booklet - who IS this?! I ain't got a clue.. It's surely not a very, very young Gretton?
Donald Sutherland
Spoookeee....
I never imagined any of them looking like that.. (I still haven't got hold of Retro as yet, as you can guess!)
Originally posted by Old Blue And who is the coloured guy in the trench coat with Peter Saville on the next page.....Erasmus?
on my copy there is no black bloke on the next page - there is a picture of alan wise with some bloke - do i have pages missing???
Originally posted by Wolfmann > Originally posted by Al Jarvis One piccie that had me stumped in the Retro booklet - who IS this?! I ain't got a clue.. It's surely not a very, very young Gretton?
Donald Sutherland
is there an echo in here?