Don't know if we've attempted something this comprehensive before yet, but with so many new people here, I thought it would be a good idea to get everyone to post up details of your complete Joy Division / New Order 7", 12", Cassette, Album, DAT, CD, Video, DVD, book, etc. collection for everyone else to marvel at......let's see who the most dedicated and/or obsessive fans are - and I know there are lots of you out there - but this I feel may well sort out the true heavyweights from the wet-behind the ears inductees amongst us .... :)

It would be great if everyone can make the effort to post with their contributions, just so we can get as broad a picture as possible of exactly what motivates us to such extremes as parting with an arm and a leg if need be to obtain that rarest of NO/JD artefacts - even if it is something as useless as a piece of torn bog roll as used by Barney from the Hacienda toilets.....or indeed the truly seminal Sly 'n' Robbie mixes of "Ruined In A Day"s CD digipak edition....

Seeing as I will be concentrating more on posting up meaningless banter on the Middlesbrough FC Official Message Board from now on (just to give our Boro Boys some much needed support and encouragement, given that they're losing it spectacularly of late after showing such a promising start to the season), I thought I'd best leave you with a nice topical thread to get yer teeth around ..... bring on the comparing of notes, the merciless slaggings, the fisticuffs, the full works....

Here's what I have in my definitive collection... (all London Records except where noted)

JOY DIVISION

ALBUMS Unknown Pleasures - LP, limited purple box cassette & CD (all Factory issues) Closer - LP, limited purple box cassette & CD (all Factory issues) Still - LP & Tape (regular box) (all Factory issues) Substance 1977-1980 - LP, Tape & CD (Factory issues) Peel Sessions - LP & CD (Strange Fruit) Les Baines Douches (Live) - CD ("Factory") Heart & Soul - 4XCD

SINGLES Ideal For Living EP - 7" (Enigma) Transmission - 7" & 12" (Factory) Atmosphere - 12" (Factory Benelux) Love Will Tear Us Apart - 12" & 7" (both Factory) Atmosphere - 7" (1988 Reissue on Factory)

NEW ORDER

ALBUMS Movement - LP, White box Cassette edition & CD (all Factory issues) 1981-1982 Mini LP - 12" (Canadian import) Power Corruption & Lies - LP, white box Cassette edition, US cassette version Factus12 & CD (all Factory issues) Low-Life - LP x 2 (one with tracing paper outer, the other a repressing import), white cassette edition & standard cassette, CD (all Factory issues) Brotherhood - LP (non-metallic), white box cassette (non-metallic), CD (metallic), CD (non-metallic) (all Factory issues) Substance - DoubleLP, Double cassette (first blue/red issues), Double white box cassette, Double CD (all Factory issues) Technique - LP, cassette, CD (all Factory issues) BBC Radio One Live 1987 - LP & CD (Windsong) Republic - LP & CD The Best Of - DoubleLP & CD The Peel Sessions - LP & CD (Strange Fruit) Get Ready - CD Retro - 5XCD (£15 from HMV clearout sale!!)

SINGLES Ceremony - 7", 12" (green) and 12"(re-recorded) (Factory) Procession/Everything's Gone Green - 7" (Blue, Red and Green designs) (Factory) Everything's Gone Green/Mesh/C&W EP - 12" (Factory Benelux) Tempation - 7" & 12" (Factory) Blue Monday 12" die-cut and 12" non die-cut (Factory) Confusion - 12" (Factory) Thieves Like Us - 12" (Factory) Murder - 12" (Factory Benelux) The Perfect Kiss - 12" (Factory - yellow inner sleeve) The Perfect Kiss - 7" (Factory Benelux with Barney/Hooky sleeve) SubCulture - 7" & 12" (Factory) Shellshock - 7" & 12" (Factory) State Of The Nation - 7" & 12" (Factory) Peel Sessions 1982 - 12" (Strange Fruit) Bizarre Love Triangle - 7" & 12" (Factory) 7" US gatefold (metallic sleeve - QWEST records) True Faith - 7", 12" & 12" remix (Factory) Touched By The Hand Of God - 7" & 12" (Factory) Peel Sessions 1981 - 12" (Copper sleeve) (Strange Fruit) Blue Monday 1988 - 7" & 12" (Factory) Fine Time - 7", 12", 12" remix and CD (Factory) Round and Round - 7", 12", 12" remix and CD5 (Factory) Run2/MTO EP - 12" (Factory) World In Motion - 12", 12" remix (Factory/MCA) Regret - 7", 12", CD Ruined In A Day - 12", CD1 World - 12", CD1 & CD2 Spooky - 12", CD1 & CD2 True Faith 94 - 12" & CD Nineteen 63 - CD1 & CD2 (white box) Crystal - CD1 & CD2 60 Miles An Hour - CD1 Here To Stay - Limited 12", CD1 & CD2

OTHERS

VIDEOS Here Are The Young Men Taras Shevchenko Academy Substance 1989 NewOrderStory

BOOKS Joy Division + New Order From Joy Division To New Order Joy Division/New Order (History In Cuttings 1 & 2) Joy Division & New Order (Dreams Never End) Touching From A Distance 24 Hour Party People

That's about it - but that's nothing compared to what I expect some of you might post up, if you can be bothered detailing everything that is!!!

Let's hear yours now!

soon young padawan...soon.

(Grrreat collection though!!)

As the worlds saddest man, I happen to have my list right here in a spreadsheet, so via the magic of cut'n'pasting

Ceremony (original version - green sleeve) 12" Confusion 12" 12" Confusion 2002 full length 1 12" Confusion 2002 full length 2 12" Fine Time 12" 12" Regret 12" 12" Subculture 12" 12" Temptation 12" 12" The Perfect Kiss 12" 12" True Faith (remix) 12" Confusion 1990 remixes 12" Substance 2cd lp The Rest Of (+Blue Monday mix cd) 2cd lp retro + bonus disk 5cdr lp Temptation 7" 7" World CC World In Motion (Canadian 6 track) CC Video 5-8-6 cd ep Brotherhood cd lp Get Ready cd lp Low Life cd lp Movement cd lp Peel Sessions cd lp Power Corruption and Lies cd lp Republic cd lp Technique cd lp The Best Of (US) cd lp 1963 cd single 1963 ltd ed cd single 60mph cd single 60mph 2 cd single 60mph promo w/ someone like you mixes cd single Bizarre Love Triangle cd single Blue Monday 88 cd single Blue Monday 88 Canadian version cd single Blue Monday 95 CD1 cd single Blue Monday 95 CD2 cd single Confusion 2002 cd single Crystal cd single Crystal 2 cd single Cyrstal US cd single Fine Time cd single Here To Stay (Australian import inc. instrumental) cd single Here To Stay cd1 cd single Here To Stay cd2 cd single Here To Stay promo cd single Regret cd single Round & Remix 3" cd single Round & Remix 5" cd single Ruined In a Day CD 1 cd single Ruined In a Day CD 2 cd single Spooky UK CD 1 cd single Spooky UK CD 2 cd single Spooky US 9tr cd single Temptation (Canadian) cd single Touched By the Hand Of God cd single True Faith 94 cd single World CD1 cd single World CD2 cd single World In Motion cd single World In Motion rerelease 2002 cd single Glastonbury 1987 cd lp 3 16 dvd 511 DVD dvd New Order Story VHS Substance Video VHS Everything's Gone Green Advent mixes cd single Blue Monday Orgy covers cd single Confusion Pump Panel Mixes cd single

not including the bootlegs, vinyl that I've replaced with cd, cdrs of odds and ends, or the 'spin off' bands.

...ooops, missed 'shellshock' 12", which I left off because for a while I didn't realise the version on Substance was edited.

Mines nowhere near as big but it is growing.

JOY DIVISION

ALBUMS Unknown Pleasures - CD Closer - CD Still - CD

MISC. Joy Division J Files

NEW ORDER

ALBUMS Movement - CD Power Corruption & Lies - CD Low-Life - CD Brotherhood - CD Substance - Double CD Technique - CD Republic - CD The Best Of - CD The Rest Of- CD Get Ready - CD International - CD

SINGLES Blue Monday 12" Vinyl Bizarre Love Triangle - 7" Vinyl Regret - CD World - CD True Faith 94 - CD Crystal - CD 60 Miles An Hour - CD - Australian Tour Edition Here To Stay - CD

OTHERS

VIDEOS Taras Shevchenko Pumped Full of Drugs Academy NewOrderStory The Best Of

BOOKS Joy Division & New Order (Dreams Never End) - Autographed

MISC. Let's Go (Nothing For Me) - MP3 Skullcrusher - MP3 New Order Megamix - MP3 New Order J Files New Order Live At The Wireless - Gold Coast Big Day Out 2002

SIDE PROJECTS

Electronic - Raise The Pressure - CD Monaco - What Do You Want From Me - CD Monaco - Sweet Lip - CD

Can I opt for the least complete collection?

Albums:

Movement (CD-R) PCL (CD-R) LowLife (CD) Brotherhood (CD-R) Substance (CD) Technique (CD) Republic (CD) Best of *US*(CD) BBC Radio 1 (CD) Get Ready (CD)

Singles:

Regret Maxi CD Single World Maxi CD Single Here to Stay CD1

Other:

Peel Sessions 1 (Truth, Senses, etc.) Electronic (CD) Disappointed CD Maxi Single Retro (5 CD) Live Finsbury Park (FINALLY!)

That's it (not including the 1.5 GB of MP3s I have) :D

Nice list there Hubert, I'm not gonna list everything that I have, which include lots of what you've listed.

Glad to see that you've got both of the History In Cuttings book, those are something that I really enjoy.

Some other items that I have that differ from yours are promo copies of some of the US 7" singles ( BLT, True Faith, BM88).

Orignal Factory US cassette of PC&L with tracklisting of KWI and Only The Lonely on the label.

While label US single of Joy Division's LWTUA (no pic sleeve though).

That Joy Division package from Italy with JD lyrics in both English and Italian, as well as a 7" of You're No Good For Me/Komakino/Incubation.

Does the Ad Infinitum single of Telstar count?

Heart and Soul Box Set Retro 5 disc Box Set Joy Division - Substance New Order - Substance PCL, Low-Life, Brotherhood, Technique, Republic, Get Ready - all CD. True Faith/1963 LP Joy Division fence poster, New Order Low Life Tour poster, 4 New Order Technique 12"x12" posters.

and of course, some mp3s.

Some of the rarer stuff I have are:

Japanese Promo DCI 3098 cd P.C.L. coloured vinyl RTD11 with promo sheet Japanese 1981-1985 promo Confusion 7" FAC 93DJ Best Of New Order boxset True Faith and Blue Monday video CD`s Confusion coloured 7" blue,purple,lime and green Procession/EGG 7" NZ,IT,P,F,S UK SET of 9 colours RUN 2 7" and 12" Substance ltd gatefold TBTHOG 3" cd True Faith 7" promo In Order 12" and cd Round and Round 263r and RTDCDR050 Regret French CD on barclay Regret French 12" on barclay

White lable Factory Records test pressings I have;

Ceremony 12" UK 1981 Blue Monday 12" UK 1983 State of the Nation 12" UK 1987 True Faith 7" UK 1987 TBTHOG 12" UK 1987 Fine Time 12" UK 1988 Ruined in a day 12"

Confusion 2002 white lable test pressing with press release sheet

Flexi Discs; Blue Monday Brazilian Shame of the Nation USA

Small collection, I sold most of my vinyl in the late 80s with the advent of CD

Touched by hand... CD single 586 Cd single EGG by advent CD single, electroset how does it feel CD(these not strictly NO) Run2 12" 12" interview disk 1984 From Brussels with love cassette feat Haystack Salvation soundtrack on CD (brilliant!!) Movement (white sleeve) unopened from shrink wrap

Factory CDs

Movement Technique Brufferhood Substance Low Life

other stuff wehich i can't remember

B

Something along similar lines, if I remember correctly it goes kinda like this (all Factory originals unless otherwise stated, or unless post-factory releases) -

JD Warsaw 12" (original demos) Warsaw CD (RCA album & original demos) Unknown Pleasures LP Closer LP LWTUA 12" Still LP (with 24 Hours) Still CD Substance LP Touching From A Distance Book Heart & Soul 4CD Box Set Preston CD Les Bains Douches CD

NO Ceremony 7" (original) Ceremony 12" (re-recorded) Procession 7" EGG 12" Movement LP (UK sleeve) Movement LP (US sleeve) Movement cassette box Movement CD New Order Were Joy Division (Funeral In Berlin) bootleg LP Temptation 12" Blue Monday 12" PCL LP PCL CD Confusion 12" Thieves Like Us 12" An Ideal For Living Book Murder 12" Vinyl Solution bootleg LP Perfect Kiss 12" Low Life LP Low Life CD (London reissue) Shellshock 12" Brotherhood LP (2 identical copies for some reason :)) SOTN 7" (far more tolerable in shorter form) BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert LP Peel Sessions LP (not sure if this goes here...) True Faith 12" Substance Cassette Substance LP Substance CD Salvation Soundtrack LP TBTHOG 12" Fine Time 12" (33RPM containing all mixes) Technique LP Technique CD (London reissue) Round & Round 12" Regret 7" Regret 12" Republic LP NewOrderStory VHS (PAL) Crystal CD Single (1 I think) Get Ready LP 316 DVD (Region 2) International CD 511 DVD (Region 2) Miscellaneous live tapes

And I think that's it. I haven't been as completist as I could have been regarding the recent singles (and since the Substances came out haven't really completed the older singles purchasing), have largely tended to avoid what I see as pointless remixes, haven't really gone down the books route (there being so much available on the web nowadays) and will not be buying Retro until someone at London Records sorts out the mess, but I think there's a few good things in there that not everyone will have.

Oh yeah, and WIFM 7" of course :o

NEW ORDER:

VHS Taras Shevchenko PFD Academy (original sleeve) Substance 1989 Neworderstory The best of (they're afraid of what they see)

DVD 3 16 6 10, sorry... 5 11

12" Ceremony (spanish release) EGG (Les Disques du Crepuscule release) Temptation (dutch release) BM (spanish) Confusion (Factory) Thieves like us (Factory) Sub-culture (spanish) Shellshock (german/european release) State of the nation (spanish) BLT (Factory) True Faith (Factory) True Faith Remix (Factory) TBTHOG /Factory) BM 88 (Factory) Fine Time (Factory) Fine Time Remix (Factory) Round & round (Factory) Round & remix (Factory) World in motion (Factory/MCA) World in motion remix (Factory/MCA) Ruined in a day World

CD-singles EGG BLT (Qwest release) Regret RIAD 2 World 1&2 Spooky 1&2 True faith 94 Nineteen63 1&2 BM 95 (I've got FOUR of this, all with different mixes! How low can you get?) Video 586 Crystal 1 60 MPH 1&2 Here to stay 1

CD's Movement PCL Low-life Brotherhood Substance Technique Republic The best of (I had also the Rest of but lost it!) Get Ready International

LP's Well I had Movement, PCL, Low-life and Brotherhood but when I bought the CD versions I gave them to a cousin of mine!

Boxed-sets Retro

Bootlegs An american nameless, labeless double-vinyl with a gig from the (I suppose...) Substance tour Europe 1993 (an italian recording of the Reading 93 gig)

JOY DIVISION:

CD-singles LWTUA 95

CD's UP Closer Still Substance Permanent

LP's See same answer as on New Order LP's

OTHER RELATED STUFF:

Palatine A Factory outing VHS A means to an end

Oh I forgot the side projects!

Revenge: Seven reasons 12" Pinneaple face 12" (I'm not your) slave 12" One True Passion CD Gun World Porn CD-single

Electronic: GAWI 12"(american release) Get the message remix 12" Feel every beat remix 12" Electronic CD Disappointed CD-single Forbidden city CD-single For you 1&2 CD-singles Raise the pressure CD Vivid 1&2 CD-singles Twisted tenderness CD

The Other Two: The Other Two & You CD Super highways CD

Monaco: WDYWFM CD-single Sweet lips CD-single Shine (someone for me) CD-single Music for pleasure CD I've got a feeling CD-single Monaco CD

Originally posted by Spotnick I must say the reason my collection is quite complete is because of the MP3 CD-ROMS I have.

The mp3 'revolution' is the one thing that really makes me feel old (forget txt mssging and l33t sp33k, we had functional illiteracy in my day as well). But the fact that the days of stumbling over some cd containing ultra rare tracks in the bargain bin of a second hand record shop in some foreign country are gone, and that these days finding 'rarities' is just a matter of typing what you want into yer file sharing program is strangely depressing.

Well ONE day i will start to post MY collection on here but i am too busy RECORDING it for ADAM and STEPHEN..only a few 12inch records that is....to have the time at the moment to do this.I have never catalogued the collection so it could be QUITE an eye opener.It will give HUNTSMAN something to scoff about when he sees the BIG gaps in the JOY DIVISION part as i only really wanted 12 INCH SINGLES at first!Should have COLLECTED it ALL when it was available but NEVER affordable even with my salary back then in the early 80s.Fantastic THREAD HUBERT and i am ALREADY jealous of MURV'S and some of you other NOOL'S collections.My has been described as the 8th WONDER of the WORLD...and the collection ain't bad either. Rocket COLLECTOR Mick ..going PUBLIC soon!:D

Originally posted by Spotnick I must say the reason my collection is quite complete is because of the MP3 CD-ROMS I have.Otherwise, I don't own anything really "rare", except that Weirdo US Promo (which is broken, thanks to the postman) and See-Saw's 12"...I don't think Run 2 is too rare, so I won't mention it. I have Confusion 1990 on vinyl, many people had problems to find that, as for the TBTHOG CD.People who were fans from the beginning must have awesome collections since they can have all the damn things the day they were released ;)But then again, I have 13 Anthology CDs, 10 Videology CDs, add to that all that I have found since 1997, and all the promo I managed to get because of this website (not many I must say, it's not worth it!)I even did stupid things, for instance, I bought 2 "Extra Order" from EBay...

Were the "anthology" cds from the mp3 project from the "ceremony" newsgroup a few years ago? 1997 or 1998 I think...

I am still kicking myself to this day for not getting those for what was basicelly cost of production!!!

darn it!

Originally posted by 404 error > Originally posted by Spotnick> I must say the reason my collection is quite complete is because of the MP3 CD-ROMS I have.>

The mp3 'revolution' is the one thing that really makes me feel old (forget txt mssging and l33t sp33k, we had functional illiteracy in my day as well). But the fact that the days of stumbling over some cd containing ultra rare tracks in the bargain bin of a second hand record shop in some foreign country are gone, and that these days finding 'rarities' is just a matter of typing what you want into yer file sharing program is strangely depressing.

For me its more than just the music...its to have the actual artifact made around the time that the material was created. With the advent of mp3...I believe that eventually the art and packaging that go along with music will go away or be substantially diminished. This may not be a bad thing as the focus should be on the music but I actually like the artifacts themselves...they reinforce my connection to the artist, the music and the time/era that they represent. When I see or hold a Brotherhood LP it takes me right back to the day it finally arrived in my local record store and I took it home, ran upstairs to my room and listened to it 10-15 times...

Originally posted by Hydrapelican > Originally posted by 404 error> > > > Originally posted by Spotnick> > I must say the reason my collection is quite complete is because of the MP3 CD-ROMS I have.> > >

The mp3 'revolution' is the one thing that really makes me feel old (forget txt mssging and l33t sp33k, we had functional illiteracy in my day as well). But the fact that the days of stumbling over some cd containing ultra rare tracks in the bargain bin of a second hand record shop in some foreign country are gone, and that these days finding 'rarities' is just a matter of typing what you want into yer file sharing program is strangely depressing.

For me its more than just the music...its to have the actual artifact made around the time that the material was created. With the advent of mp3...I believe that eventually the art and packaging that go along with music will go away or be substantially diminished. This may not be a bad thing as the focus should be on the music but I actually like the artifacts themselves...they reinforce my connection to the artist, the music and the time/era that they represent. When I see or hold a Brotherhood LP it takes me right back to the day it finally arrived in my local record store and I took it home, ran upstairs to my room and listened to it 10-15 times...

I totally AGREE with both of you.Indeed ownership of ALL the ARTWORK/RECORD and the hunting down said artifact in the first place was all part of the joy of collecting. Here now recording the GREEN CEREMONY from 12 inch to cassette then transferring to PC and then burning to CD-R. Long winded but GREAT results as i cannot get a good link from amp to PC via the PHONO sockets and the amp tp MINIDISC is still cutting out ONE channel.This way is working and the results will be pleasing for a few NOOL's here. Cheers Rocket Mick

JOY DIVISION

CD-albums:

• Unknown Pleasures
• Closer
• Still
• Substance
• Permanent
• Preston 28 February 1980
• The Complete BBC Recordings
• Les Bains Douches 18 Dec. 1979
• Heart & Soul Boxset
• ...an evening with (Live-Bootleg)

CD-singles:

• Atmosphere
• Love Will Tear Us Apart (incl. Arthur Baker RMX)

NEW ORDER:

CD-albums:

• Movement
• Power, Corruption & Lies (american version)
• Low-Life
• Brotherhood
• Substance
• Technique
• BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert
• Republic
• (the best of) -> american version
• (the rest of)
• The John Peel Sessions
• Get Ready
• 20 Years of New Order Promo-CD
• International
• Retro 5-CD-Boxset

CD-bootlegs:

• Electronic Ecstacy
• Silence
• Summer Nights
• Ceremony
• Dead Bodies Can't Sing
• Dreams Never End
• Out Of Order

CD-singles:

• 1981-FEP 313-1982
• Everything's Gone Green
• Bizarre Love Triangle
• Touched By The Hand Of God
• Blue Monday 1988
• Fine Time
• Fine Time (Canadian version incl. Fine Line)
• Round & Round
• Round & Remix
• World In Motion
• World In Motion 2002
• Regret
• Ruined In A Day CD1 & CD2
• World
• World - The Remixes
• Spooky CD1 & CD2
• True Faith '94
• Nineteen63
• Nineteen63 1-track-promo-CD
• Blue Monday '95
• Video 586
• Crystal 1-track-promo-CD
• Crystal CD1 & CD2, plus american 8-track-CD-single
• Crystal Japanese Edition with Reading '98 live-tracks
• 60 Miles An Hour CD1 & CD2
• Here To Stay CD1 & CD1, plus australian CD-single
• Confusion 2002

ELECTRONIC:

CD-albums:

• Electronic
• Raise The Pressure
• Twisted Tenderness

CD-singles:

• Getting Away With It
• Getting Away With It american 7-track-single-CD
• Get The Message
• Feel Every Beat
• Disappointed
• Forbidden City
• For You CD1 & CD2
• Second Nature CD1 & CD2
• Vivid CD1 & CD2
• Late At Night 1-track-promo-CD
• Late At Night CD1 & CD2

REVENGE:

CD-albums:

• One True Passion

CD-singles:

• Revenge
• Pineapple Face
• Pineapple Face american version
• Pineapple Face radio-promo-CD-single
• Slave
• Slave american version
• Slave radio-promo-CD-single
• Gun World Porn
• Gun World Porn american version

MONACO:

CD-albums:

• Music For Pleasure
• Monaco

CD-singles:

• What Do You Want From Me
• Sweet Lips CD1 & CD2
• Shine
• I've Got A Feeling

THE OTHER TWO:

CD-albums:

• The Other Two And You
• Superhighways

CD-singles:

• Tasty Fish
• Selfish
• Superhighways

VIDEOS:

• Joy Division "Here Are The Young Men"
• New Order "Taras Shevchenko"
• New Order "Pumped Full Of Drugs"
• New Order "Academy"
• New Order "Substance 1989"
• New Order Story
• New Order "(The Best Of)"

DVD's:

• 316
• 511
• Crystal DVD-single
• 60 Miles An Hour DVD-single
• Here To Stay DVD-single

OTHER'S:

• New Order "Technique"-tour programme 1989
• Tribute To Velvet Underground Vol.2 (incl. REVENGE)
• 24 Hour Party People CD-Soundtrack
• The Beach CD-Soundtrack
• Salvation CD-Soundtrack

BOOKS:

• Deborah Curtis "Touching From A Distance"
• Pleasures & Wayward Distractions
• Dreams Never End

...as well as countless CD-R's incl. Live-Performances, Outtakes, Peel Sessions '98...

God, how stooopid am I? I forgot:

New Order Peel Sessions CD (original sleeve) BBC's Glastonbury 87 CD (original sleeve)

Joy Division Peel Sessions CD(original sleeve) Preston 1980 CD

Books: Touching from a distance (portuguese translation) Ian Curtis & Joy Division (bilingual lyrics book: english/portuguese)

Forgot a few JD items too.

Complete BBC Recordings CD Here Are The Young Men VHS

It's really nice to see the amount of vinyl people have here.

Still a rank amateur but have been inspired to complete my vinyl collection after my pilgrimage to Chorley. I'm now upto 30, 12"s and have all lp's bar rest of on vinyl. May start on 7"s after that.

This hadn't been updated since just before crystal came out, so i had to add some stuff. Probably missed a few things.

NEW ORDER

SINGLES:

Ceremony: 7" (gold sleeve), 12" (green sleeve) Procession: 7" (red sleeve), 7" (purple sleeve) Temptation: 7", 12" Blue Monday: 12" (original sleeve), 12" (re-issue with different sleeve), 12" (labels on record wrong way round). Confusion: 12" Thieves Like Us: 12" Perfect Kiss: 12" Sub-culture: 12" Shellshock: 7", 12" State Of The Nation: 7", 12" Bizarre Love Triangle: 12" True Faith: 7", 12", 12" (remix with different sleeve) Touched By The Hand Of God: 7" Blue Monday-88: 7", 12" Fine Time: CD, 7", 12", 12" (remix) Round & Round: 7", 12", 12" (remix) World In Motion: 7", 12", 12" (remix), cassette Regret: 7", CD (limited edition includes interview) Ruined In a Day: 12", CD, CD (limited edition), CD (promo) World: CD, CD (different mixes), 2x12" double pack Spooky: CD, CD (US issue with more mixes) True Faith-94: 12" (VERY RARE DJ promo in '?' die cut sleeve), CD 1963: 12", CD, CD (promo in a white box with '1963' cut out of the front) Blue Monday-95: CD (I have 3, all with different sleeves and mixes). Murder: 12" Video 586 CD Crystal: CD x 2, DVD, 12" 60 MPH: CD x 2, DVD Here to stay: CD X 2

ALBUMS:

Movement: CD reissue Power, corruption & lies: CD reissue, Factory CD Low-Life: CD reissue, 12" Brotherhood: CD reissue Technique: 12", CD, Cassette Republic: CD Substance: cassette, double CD Radio 1 live in concert: CD Best Of: CD Rest Of: CD (limited edition) Peel sessions: 12" Retro 4CD box set

VIDEOS:

Best Of Story Substance Academy: Reading 98: Taped from TV, includes Monaco ... and various ShugZV vids

POSTERS:

True Faith-94 100x150cm Temptation 100x150cm Bernard Sumner 80x60

MISC:

Hooky in a cupboard Republic T-shirt Temptation T-shirt Recycle T-shirt Best Of: Slide Puzzle Peel session: taped from radio 1 Holographic Interview CD "Newspeak" New Order rare stuff CD Foreign tribute CD

ELECTRONIC

SINGLES:

Getting Away With It: CD (US Import) Get The Message: CD Feel Every Beat: CD Dissapointed: CD maxi single Forbidden City: CD, 7" For You: CD1, CD2 Second Nature: CD1, CD2 Vivid: CD1,CD2, 12" Late at Night: CD1, CD2 (Both unreleased in UK) + promo clear CD

ALBUMS:

Electronic: CD Re-issue Raise The Pressure: CD Twisted Tenderness: CD

MISC:

Interview taped from Radio1

JOY DIVISION

SINGLES:

Transmission: 7" Love Will Tear Us Apart: 7", 12"

ALBUMS:

Unknown Pleasures: 12" Permanent: CD Still: CD Heart & Soul: 4xCD Box Set

MISC:

various gig reviews and early interviews from internet.

MONACO

SINGLES:

What Do You Want From Me: CD Sweet Lips: CD1, CD2 Shine: CD

ALBUMS:

Music For Pleasure: CD Monaco: CD

OTHER TWO

Other Two & You: CD album Superhighways: CD single and CD album

OTHER STUFF

Sub Sub feat. Bernard Sumner - This Time I'm Not Wrong: CD Single

also... wierdo 12" promo and onUS sound 12" thingy...

Originally posted by ShugZV©
I will do a full list soon. There are only the odd things missing from the vinyl collection (official releases) the CD collection is complete. Can't remember off hand which rarities I have.

Apart from International!!!! ;)

Originally posted by ShugZV©
> Originally posted by DoN> > > > Originally posted by ShugZV© > > I will do a full list soon. There are only the odd things missing from the vinyl collection (official releases) the CD collection is complete. Can't remember off hand which rarities I have.>

Apart from International!!!! ;)

I thought you were buying me that fer me birthday:D

Damn spoiling my surprise!!! i did go over to france to get the 2cd version for ya but spent all my money on cheap beer!!!!!!!!!!! hope ya dont mind!

AGAIN forgot:

808 State- Ex-el Sub Sub- This time I'm not wrong Durutti Column- Sex & Death ACR- MCR Banderas- This is your life 12"

Wow! Nice array of responses we have here so far...! :)

Just to add (whilst on my "coffee break" - arf!) that my first list was all the official JD/NO releases of course. There's a very small clutch of bootleg tapes and albums as well - which I will have to go back and dig out as I've forgotten the titles and details, except to say the SUNDERLAND MAYFAIR 1984 gig - which I was at! - I have a copy of on vinyl (I think it cost me £10 when I got it back in 1994).

I've also omitted the side projects for obvious reasons - but I was never too keen on those, except to say that: the first (vinyl) and third (CD) Electronic albums, the first Other Two single "Tasty Fish" (12"), NOTHING by Revenge (guilty as charged m'lud!) and the first Monaco album (DBL LP) is just about the extent of it.

And also a big shout to OLD BLUE - who must have seen this thread to be inspired to promptly put up a link for the benefit of everyone who hasn't got those first two "JD/NO - HISTORY IN CUTTINGS" books.....

.....fantastic work that man - even if it must have taken you absolutely ages to put all that together !

Joy Division:

Real CD's Heart And Soul Still Preston Les Bains BBC Recordings

Boot CD's Remains (really good boot of stuff not on H&S) Ajanta Theatre, Derby 19th April 1980 (remastered by myself to fix sound quality issues)

Posters: Closer - 24 x 36

Shirts: Unknown Pleasures Love Will Tear Us Apart

New Order:

Full Length CD's: Movement 1981 - 1982 EP Power, Corruption, and Lies Low Life Brotherhood Technique Republic Get Ready Subtance Peel Sessions CD Reissue BBC Live In Concert Best Of (UK) Best Of (US) International (2 Disc) Retro (5 Disc)

Singles (all CD): True Faith 94 Blue Monday 88 Bizarre Love Triangle Round And Round Crystal Here To Stay 60 MPH World In Motion

Boot Concerts: Taras Schevchenko Legend Will Come Again (includes 98 Reading show and 98 Peels Sessions) Nottingham Palais 4th June 1984 (remastered by myself to fix some sound issues)

Shirt: True Faith

What will I be getting soon: 3:16 and 5:12 DVD's (or whatever they are called)

Side Projects: None, and I don't feel bad about it either

Tribute Albums: None, and I really don't feel bad about this

Oh yeah, I have an Unknown Pleasures T shirt. My ambition is to one day be able to fit into it again.

Originally posted by 404 error Oh yeah, I have an Unknown Pleasures T shirt. My ambition is to one day be able to fit into it again.

You're not Major Wonderboy incognito are you by any chance??

My collection isn't large by any means. But I have all the albums now - just not all the singles. As for Joy Division, it's decidedly incomplete.

So far it's (most current first)

New Order Singles: Here To Stay CD x 2 and DVD 60 mph CD x2 Crystal CD x 2 and DVD 1963 CD x 2 True Faith 94 CD Spooky CD x2 World CD x 2 Ruined In A Day CD x 2 Regret 12" World In Motion 12" (original) Round & Round 12" x 2 Fine Time 12" (original) Touched by The Hand of God 12" State Of The Nation 12" The Perfect Kiss 12" Blue Monday 12"

New Order Albums; Retro CD (plus bonus) Get Ready CD Live 1987 CD Peel Sessions CD The Best Of CD Republic CD Technique CD Brotherhood CD Substance CD Low Life CD PC&L CD Movement CD

Joy Division Singles: Love Will Tear Us Apart (Permanent mix) 12" Atmosphere 1988 12"

Joy Division Albums: Permanent CD Substance CD Closer CD

Books: From Joy Division to New Order by Mick Middles.

I think that's all at the moment.

here goes it, Joy Division: CDs:Heart and Soul Boxset Video: Joy Division 1977-1988 New Order: CD: All studio Albums cd Singles: 1963 box Bizzare Love Triagle World in motion (1990 & 2002)
Video 586 60 mph w/ live reading tracks Video: Best of NewOrderStory Brixton Academy 3:16(vhs w/o bonus footage) Rock Family Trees(And got created manchester) Belguim 1986 Hulsfred 2002 PFD 1985 Bootlegs cd's: The Palace 1986 reading '93 Glasgow 89 Glasgow 2001 Further Pumped(pfd '85)

misc: Salvation Soundtrack on CD Electronic:all strudio cd's "VIVID" vhs promo getting away with it cd single Revenge cds: Gun world Porn ep one true Passion i have another revenge single and cant remeber the name

i might have one or two things but cant remeber at the moment

Hey Frank - what's that Rock Family Trees thing? Is that a book about Manchester bands? I've never heard of that one...

Originally posted by Spotnick Official Ones?Ok ThenJoy Division====PermanentHeart & SoulLove Will Tear Us Apart-95SubstanceAtmosphere 1988 Canadian CD Single (was bundled with Substance)New Order=Singles & EPs:1981-FEP 313-1982 EP (Canadian CD)Peel Sessions 1982 (Tape)Subculture (UK 12")Shellshock (UK 12")Weirdo (US 12" Promo)Touched by the Hand of God (CD Single)Blue Monday 88 (Canadian CD Single)Fine Time (US CD Single)Round & Round (Canadian CD Single)Run 2 (UK 12")Confusion 1990 (US 12")World In Motion (Canadian CD Single)Regret (US CD Single)Ruined in a Day UK CD SingleRuined in a Day (UK Digipak)World (UK Digipak)World (US CD Single)Spooky (UK CD Single)Spooky (UK Digipak)Nineteen63 (UK CD Single)Nineteen63 (UK Digipak)Blue Monday-95 (Canadian CD Single)Crystal (US DVD)Crystal (UK CDR Promo)Crystal (Canadian CD Single)Crystal (UK CD1)Crystal (Japanese CD Single)Extra Order EP (US Promo CD) (x2)60 Miles An Hour (UK DVD Single)60 Miles An Hour (UK CD2)Here To Stay (UK DVD Single)Here To Stay (UK CD1)Here To Stay (UK CD2)Confusion 2002 (UK CD Single)Albums:Movement (Canadian CD)Power, Corruption & Lies (Canadian CD)Low-Life (Canadian CD)Brotherhood (Canadian CD but printed in Germany)Substance 1987 (Canadian 2xCD)Technique (Canadian CD)BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert (UK CD)BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert (US CD)Republic (Canadian CD)(the best of) NewOrder (Canadian CD)(the rest of) NewOrder (Canadian Limited 2xCD)The John Peel Sessions (UK CD)Get Ready (UK Promo CD)Get Ready (Canadian CD)20 Years of New Order (US Promo CD)Boxsets:Retro UK Limited BoxsetRetro US Limited BoxsetSoundtracks:Salvation Soundtrack (US CD)Threesome Soundtrack (Canadian CD)Something Wild Soundtrack (US CD)Bright Lights, Big City (Canadian Tape)Videos:Substance 1989 (Canadian VHS)NewOrderStory (Canadian VHS)316 UK DVD511 UK Promo DVD511 Canadian DVD (Not yet)Tribute AlbumsA Tribute to New Order (Cleopatra)True Faith - A Tribute to New Order (Synthphonic)No. 1 Blue Murder - Truth :DA New Order Tribute 2002-2003 (FR Promo CDR) :DWell that's it, I have plenty of Side Projects material.. I just realized I don't have True Faith 94 on CD Don't ask me why, it's definitively something I need to find!!So, now you can come and steal in my house now that you know what you're going to find

I only managed to get the True Faith one when it was reissued in 1994 - to date I still cannot track down the 1987 CD original - although I'm still looking for a decent copy of the 12" vinyl.

Anyone know just how scarce the original 1987 True Faith is? Come on, there must be someone amonsgst you who knows the value of Factory collectibles...

Originally posted by Dave_Barrie Hey Frank - what's that Rock Family Trees thing? Is that a book about Manchester bands? I've never heard of that one...

no its kind of like behind the music, it covers most manchester bands but mostly new order and joy division its about 60mins and narrated by john peel , i think its from 97 because they still hadnt gotten back together yet( i think)

New Order

Ceremony 7" 12" Blue and white Procession 7" red blue green yellow brown Temptation 7" 12" FEP 313 12" Blue monday orig 12" Confusion 12" Thieves like us 7" (promos x 3) 12" Murder 12" Perfect Kiss 7" FBN x 2( diff. pic sleeves) 12" Sub culture 7" 12" Shellshock 12" + A&M 12" With Thieves like us on B side Peel sessions 1982 12" state of the Nation 7" 12" Bizzare Love Triangle 7" 12" + 7" canadien g/fold(metallic) True Faith 12" + 12" Remix Touched by the Hand...7" 12" +7" french +7" Italien J/box (one side only) Blue monday 12" + 12" Qwest import Fine Time 7" 12" +7" Dutch +12" remix Round & round 7" 12" + 12" remix Run 2 12" World in motion 12" + 12" Remix Regret 7" 12" 1963 7"

All Albums on vinyl and CD Also have the majority of singles that are available on CD from True faith 94 onwards but must admit i find the vinyl more collectible due to the superb artwork and the fact that it reminds me of my youth ,holed up in my bedroom ,turntable spinning...volume cranked up and the constant rhythmic thud of my mum banging the living room ceiling with a brush telling me to "turn that blasted racket down"....*L* ......and my final prize possesion is..one of them red "MOVE" beach balls which were pinging off everyones head at the OLd trafford Move concert...Does this count.??

Wow, I don't feel like such a enthusiast anymore...

Joy Division

Permanant - CD Closer - CD

New Order

PCL - CD Lowlife - CD Brotherhood - CD Technique - CD Republic - CD Get Ready - CD Substance - CD Best Of - CD Rest Of - CD

Retro - 5 CD box set import

Bizarre Love Triangle - CD Regret - CD World - CD Crystal - CD Crystal - Japan Release Here To Stay 1 Here To Stay 2 Here To Stay 3 (all Aussie releases) 60 Miles An Hour - CD (Australian Release) Round & Round - Vinyl

Legend Will Come Again - Reading 98 Bootleg CD Out Of Order - Remix Bootleg CD(mostly Razormaid mixes) New Order: Raw & Rare - Bootleg CD

Joy Division - Paradiso - cassette from Taboo # 7 New Order - Polytechnic of Central London - same

Taras Shevchenko - VHS

Joy Division - LWTUA poster New Order - Lowlife poster

Monaco - Music For Pleasure CD Monaco - Monaco CD

Electronic - Electronic CD Electronic - Raise The Pressure CD

Other Two - I've downloaded a few songs from Kazaa, but never have bought Superhighways because it's $22.

Covers Bizarre Love Triangle - Stabbing Westward Bizarre Love Triangle - Frente Regret - The Get Up Kids Ceremony - The Echoing Green Decades - Radiohead

Joy Division pin Technique postcard New Order car window sticker.

New Order Bedsheets and Matching comforter.

and lastly...

the coveted Gillian Gilbert talking Barbie. I never play with it, I swear.

I think that about covers it.

This is my complete cd list: 590 in total (only about 30 JD/NO stuff, and LWTUA 7")

Autor Título Estado

Abba Gold Air Moon Safari Arab Strap Philophobia Ash Trailer Ash Nu-clear sounds Ashcroft, Richard Alone with everybody Ashcroft, Richard Human conditions Astrud Gran fuerza Astrud Mi fracaso personal Australian Blonde Experience tour 99 (sg) Auteurs, The New wave Auteurs, The How I learned to love the bootboys Aventuras de Kirlian Aventuras de Kirlian Barrett, Syd Would you miss me? The best of Beach Boys, The Pet sounds Beach Boys, The The very best of Beachwood Sparks Make the robot cowboys cry (ep) Beachwood Sparks Beachwood Sparks Beatles, The 1962-1966* Beatles, The White Album part 2 Beatles, The 1967-1970* Beatles, The White Album part 1 Bee-Gees, The The best of Belle and Sebastian Lazy line painter Jane (ep) Belle and Sebastian Storytelling Luis Belle and Sebastian Jonathan David (ep) Luis Belle and Sebastian This is just a modern rock song (ep) Belle and Sebastian Legal man (ep) Belle and Sebastian Dog on wheels (ep) Belle and Sebastian 3.. 6.. 9 seconds of light (ep) Belle and Sebastian Fold your hands child, you walk like a peasant Belle and Sebastian Tigermilk Belle and Sebastian The boy with the arab strap Belle and Sebastian If you're feeling sinester Belle and Sebastian I'm waking up to us (ep) Luis Belly Star Beta Band, The Hot shots 2 Bis Return to central Björk Homogenic Björk Vespertine Björk Selmasongs Björk Debut Björk Post Black Grape It's great when you're straight...yeah Black Rebel Motorcycle Club B.R.M.C Blondie The best of Blondie Parallel lines Bluetones, The Return to the last chance saloon Blur 13 ??? Blur Showtime (video) Blur Leisure Blur Tender (sg) Blur Live at the Budokan* Blur Bustin + Dronin* Blur Starshaped (video) ??? Blur Parklife Blur The great escape Blur Blur Blur Modern life is rubbish BMX Bandits C-86 and more Boo Radleys, The Wake up! Boo Radleys, The Giant steps Bowie, David Ziggy stardust ??? Bowie, David Low Bowie, David """Heroes""" Bowie, David The best of 69-74 Bowie, David Aladdin Sane Bowie, David Heathen Bowie, David Station to station Bowie, David Young americans Bowie, David The best of 74-79 Bowie, David Diamond dogs Bowie, David Scary monsters Bowie, David Hunky Dory Bowie, David The singles collection* Bronco Bullfrog Seventhirtyeight Bronco Bullfrog The sidelong glances of a pigeon kicker Buckley, Jeff Grace Buckley, Jeff Live at Olympia Buckley, Jeff Sketches for My sweetheart the drunk* Buckley, Tim Morning glory part 2 Buckley, Tim Morning glory part 1 Buffalo Springfield Buffalo Springfield Built to spill There's nothing wrong with love Built to spill Keep it like a secret Butler, Bernard People move on Buzzocks Singles going steady Carter USM Straw donkey…The singles Cave, Nick & The Bad Seeds No more shall we part Cave, Nick & The Bad Seeds The best of* (with Royal Albert Hall live bonus disc) Clash, The The Clash Clash, The Story vol. 1* Clash, The London calling Clash, The Give 'em enough rope Cocteau twins Stars and Topsoil: a collection (1982-1990) Cohen, Leonard Songs from a room Cohen, Leonard Songs of Leonard Cohen Cohen, Leonard Various positions Cohen, Leonard Songs of love and hate Cohen, Leonard Ten new songs Cohen, Leonard New skin for the old ceremony Cohen, Leonard Live Cohen, Leonard I´m your man Cohen, Leonard The future Cohen, Leonard Death of a ladies man Coldplay Parachutes Coldplay A rush of blood to the head Coltrane, John A love supreme Cooper, Alice The definitive Cosmic Rough Riders Enjoy the melodic sunshine Costello, Elvis The best of Costello, Elvis This year's model Costello, Elvis Costello & Bacharach Cousteau Cousteau Cure, The Kiss me, Kiss me, Kiss me Cure, The Pornography Cure, The Seventeen seconds Cure, The Bloodflowers Cure, The Staring at the sea - The singles 79-86 Cure, The Boys don't cry Cure, The Greatest hits* Cure, The Galore - The singles 87-97 Cure, The Faith Cure, The Disintigration Cure, The The Cure concert Cure, The Japanese whispers Cure, The Wild mood swings Cure, The The head on the door Charlatans, The Melting pot Chemical Brothers Exit planet dust Chemical Brothers Dig your own hole ??? Chemical Brothers Surrender Chico y Chica Sí Dandy Warhols, The The Dandy Warhols come down Depeche Mode Singles 86-98 Cd 1 Depeche Mode Complete recordings (mp3) Depeche Mode Singles 86-98 Cd 2 Depeche Mode Exciter Depeche Mode 101* Divine Comedy, The A secret history Divine Comedy, The Casanova Divine Comedy, The Regeneration Divine Comedy, The Fin de siecle Doves Lost souls Doves The last broadcast Drake, Nick Five leaves left Drake, Nick Pink moon Dream Syndicate, The The days of wine and roses Drugstore White magic for lovers Dylan, Bob Love and theft Dylan, Bob Greatest hits vol. 2 Dylan, Bob Greatest hits vol. 1 Dylan, Bob Royal Albert Hall live part 2 Dylan, Bob Royal Albert Hall live part 1 Dylan, Bob Live 1961-2000 (39 years of concert performances) Echo & the bunnymen Songs to learn & sing Echobelly Lustra Echobelly Everyone´s got one Echobelly On Embrace Drawn from memory Eminem Stan (sg) Eminem Lose yourself (sg) Eno, Brian Here come the warm jets Everything But The Girl Home movies: The best of Family Un soplo en el corazón Fatboy Slim You've come a long way, baby Flaming lips, The Clouds taste metallic Flaming lips, The Yoshimi battles the pink robots Flaming lips, The The soft bulletin Fugazi Repeater + 3 songs Galaxie 500 The portable Garbage Version 2.0 Gaye, Marvin Let's get it on Gaye, Marvin What's going on Gaye, Marvin Midnight love Gaye, Marvin The best of* Gentle waves, The The green fields of foreverland Giant Sand Selections Circa 1990-2000 Gibbons, Beth & Rustin' Man Out of season Gigolo Aunts Full-on bloom Gigolo Aunts Minor chords and major themes Gigolo Aunts Pacific ocean blues Go-Betweens, The Spring hill fair Go-Betweens, The Best of The Go-Betweens Go-Betweens, The Tallulah Go-Betweens, The 16 lovers lane Go-Betweens, The Liberty belle and the black diamond express Happy Mondays Greatest hits Happy Mondays Pills 'n' thrills & bellyaches Happy Mondays Bummed Happy Mondays Squirrel and G-Man Twenty Four Hour Party People… Harvey, PJ 4-track demos Harvey, PJ To bring you my love Harvey, PJ Is this desire? Harvey, PJ Dry Harvey, PJ Stories from the city, stories from the sea Hefner We love the city Hefner Boxing Hefner Hefner The fidelity wars Hefner Breaking god's heart Hefner Revelations (ep) Hendrix, Jimi Smash hits Hurricane 1 Hurricane 1 Hüsker Dü Candy apple grey Hüsker Dü Zen Arcade Ian Brown Golden greats Iggy Pop Nude & Rude: The best of Inquilino comunista, El Discasto Interpol Turn on the bright lights Jack The jazz age Jam, The Fire & Skill Jam, The Collection Jam, The Sound affects Jam, The The very best of The Jam James The best of James Taylor Quartet, The The very best of vol. 2 James Taylor Quartet, The The very best of vol. 1 Jesus And Mary Chain, The Psychocandy Jesus And Mary Chain, The Honey's dead Jesus And Mary Chain, The Darklands Jesus And Mary Chain, The 21 singles Jesus And Mary Chain, The Stoned & Dethroned Jesus And Mary Chain, The Automatic Johanson, Jay Jay Tatoo Jon Spencer Blues Explosion Orange Joy Division "Love will tear us apart (single 7"")" Joy Division The complete BBC recordings Joy Division Closer Joy Division Unknown pleasures Joy Division Heart & Soul (4 disc box set) Joy Division Substance Joy Division Still Kinks, The The singles collection 1964-1970 part 1 Kinks, The The singles collection 1964-1970 part 2 Kraftwerk Trans-Europe Express Kraftwerk Radio-Aktivitat La Buena Vida La Buena Vida La Buena Vida Soidemersol La Buena Vida Harmónica La Buena Vida Hallelujah! La Buena Vida Panorama Ladytron 604 Miguel Lambchop Nixon Lauper, Cyndi Time after time - The best of Le Mans Aquí vivía yo Le Mans Saudade Lennon, John Collection LFR LFR Libertines, The Up a bracket Looper Up a tree Love Da Capo Love Forever changes Low Things we lost in the fire Luis Low Trust Luna Lunapark Luna Bewitched Luna The days of our nights Luna Romantica Luna Pup Tent Luna Penthouse Madonna Greatest Hits volume 2 Madonna Ray of light Madonna Something to remember Madonna The inmaculate collection Madonna Music Magnetic Fields, The Get lost Magnetic Fields, The Charm of the highway strip Magnetic Fields, The Holiday Magnetic Fields, The 69 love songs vol. 3 Magnetic Fields, The 69 love songs vol. 2 Magnetic Fields, The 69 love songs vol. 1 Manic Street Preachers Kafe Antzokia Manic Street Preachers Everything must go Manta Ray Score Massive Attack Live at Royal Albert Hall Massive Attack Angel (sg) Massive Attack Inertia creeps (sg) Massive Attack Teardrop (sg) Massive Attack Risingson (sg) Massive Attack Hymn of the big wheel (sg) Massive Attack Protection (sg) Massive Attack Blue lines Massive Attack Sly (sg) Massive Attack Safe from harm (sg) Massive Attack Unfinished Sympathy (sg) Massive Attack Daydreaming (sg) Massive Attack Mezzanine Massive Attack No protection Massive Attack Protection Massive Attack Karmacoma (sg) MC5 The Big Bang! Best of Menswear Nuisance Mercury Rev All is dream Mercury Rev Deserter's songs Mercury Rev See you in the other side Migala Así duele un verano Migala Diciembre 3 a.m. Minogue, Kylie Love at first sight (single) Aingeru Mogwai Come on die young Mogwai Rock action Mogwai Young team Moody Blues, The The collection* Morcheeba Shoulder holster (sg) Muse Showbiz Muse Origin of simmetry My Bloody Valentine 2 Ep's My Bloody Valentine Isn't anything My Bloody Valentine Loveless Nada Surf High/Low Najwajean No blood New Order Low-life New Order 5 11 (DVD) New Order The John Peel sessions New Order The best of New Order New Order Back to mine New Order Movement New Order Substance* New Order Technique New Order Republic (plus bonus tracks) New Order Brotherhood New Order 3 16 (DVD) New Order Retro (5 disc box set) New Order Get ready (plus Here to stay single) New Order International New Order Power, corruption & lies New Order The rest of New Order New Order Get ready (regular edition) New Order Republic (regular edition) New Order BBC Radio 1 Live in concert New York Dolls New York Dolls Niño Gusano, El El efecto lupa Nosoträsh Nadie hablará de... Oasis There and then (video) ??? Oasis Definitely maybe Oasis (What´s the story) Morning glory? Oasis Standing on the shoulder of giants Oasis Be here now Oasis I hope, I think, I know (sg) Oasis Familiar to millions* Oasis Heathen chemistry Oasis The Masterplan Ocean Colour Scene Marchin' already Ocean Colour Scene Sala Jam Oldfield, Mike Tubular bells part 2 OMD Singles Pavement Crooked rain, crooked rain Pavement Brighten the corners Pavement Terror twilight Pet Shop Boys Behaviour* Pet Shop Boys Alternative Pet Shop Boys Discography Pet Shop Boys Introspective Pet Shop Boys Actually Pet Shop Boys Nightlife Pet Shop Boys Please Pet Shop Boys Release Pet Shop Boys Very Pet Shop Boys Bilingual Petty, Tom & The heartbreakers Greatest hits Pink Floyd Wish you were here Pink Floyd The division bell Pink Floyd Dark side of the moon Pink Floyd The piper at the gates of dawn Pink Floyd Echoes: The best of Pixies Bossanova Pixies Pixies at the BBC Pixies Surfer rosa & Come on pilgrim Pixies Death to the Pixies* Placebo Black market music Placebo Placebo Placebo Without you i'm nothing Planetas, Los Una semana en el motor de un autobús Planetas, Los Super 8 Planetas, Los Unidad de desplazamiento Planetas, Los Encuentros con entidades Planetas, Los Pop Police, The The very best of Sting & The Police Portishead Portishead Portishead Roseland NYC concert (video) Portishead Dummy Posies, The Success Primal Scream Screamadelica Primal Scream XTRMNTR Primal Scream Vanishing point Primal Scream Give out but don´t give up Primal Scream Evil heat Primal Scream Sonic flower groove Primal Scream Echo Dek Primal Scream Primal Scream Prodigy Breathe (sg) Prodigy Music for the jilted generation Pshycodelic Furs, The Nine singles Pulp This is hardcore ??? Pulp Different class Pulp His 'n' Hers Pulp Intro Pulp We love life Pulp His 'n' hers (plus Razzmatazz) R.A.T.M Evil empire R.A.T.M R.A.T.M R.E.M Dead letter office R.E.M Murmur R.E.M Green R.E.M Fables of the reconstruction R.E.M Out of time (regular edition) R.E.M At my most beautiful (sg) R.E.M Out of time (plus MTV Unplugged bonus tracks) R.E.M Life´s rich pageant R.E.M Reckoning R.E.M New adventures in Hi-Fi R.E.M Document R.E.M The great beyond (sg) R.E.M Monster R.E.M Up R.E.M Automatic for the people Richi R.E.M Everybody hurts (sg) R.E.M Reveal Radiohead My iron lung Radiohead Kid A Radiohead No surprises (sg) Radiohead OK Computer Radiohead The bends Radiohead Pablo Honey Red House Painters Red house painters Red House Painters Retrospective Reed, Lou Transformer Reed, Lou Berlin Ride Nowhere Rolling Stones, The Hot Rocks part 1 Rolling Stones, The Hot Rocks part 2 Roxy Music Best of Roxy Music For your pleasure only Saint Etienne Smash the system (singles, b-sides & remixes) Saint Etienne Finisterre Saint Etienne So though Saint Etienne He´s on the phone (sg) Saint Etienne Sound of water Saint Etienne Foxbase Alpha Saint Etienne Tiger bay Saint Etienne Good humour Seahorses, The Do it yourself Sebadoh The sebadoh Sex Pistols Never mind the bollocks Siouxsie & The Banshees Twice upon a time: The singles Six by Seven The things we make Small Faces The Decca anthology part 1 Small Faces The darlings of wapping wharf launderette part 2 Small Faces The Decca anthology part 2 Small Faces The darlings of wapping wharf launderette part 1 Smashing Pumpkins, The Siamese dream Smashing Pumpkins, The Adore Smashing Pumpkins, The Mellon Collie and the infinite sadness* Smashing Pumpkins, The Machina/The machines of god Smith, Patti Horses Smith, Patti Land (1975-2002)* Smiths, The The Queen is dead Smiths, The The best…1 Smiths, The The Smiths Smiths, The Strangeways, here we come Smiths, The Hatful of hollow Smiths, The The best...2 Soft Cell The singles Sonic Youth Washing machine Sonic Youth Dirty Sonic Youth Daydream nation Soul Asylum I will still be laughing (sg) Spiritualized Ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space Spiritualized Let it come down Springsteen, Bruce Greatest hits Stereophonics Word gets around Stone Roses, The Complete Stone Roses, The The Stone Roses Stone Roses, The Second coming Stooges, The Fun house Stranglers, The Collection 1977-1982 Strokes, The Is this it Suede A new morning Suede Head music Suede Coming up Suede Dog man star Suede Suede Suede Lost in TV (DVD) Suede Sci-fi lullabies* Suicide Suicide* Sunny day real state How it feels to be something on Sunny day real state The rising tide Super Furry Animals Rings around the world Super Furry Animals Zona 16 Super Furry Animals Radiator Symposium One day at a time Talking Heads Once in a lifetime - The best of Talking Heads Remain in light Teenage Fanclub A catholic education Teenage Fanclub Howdy! Teenage Fanclub Bandwagonesque Teenage Fanclub Thirteen Teenage Fanclub Songs from northern Britain Teenage Fanclub Grand Prix Teenage Fanclub & Frank Black BBC sessions Television Marquee moon Tindersticks Can our love… Luis Tindersticks Donkeys 92-97 Tindersticks Simple pleasure Tindersticks Tindersticks 93' Tindersticks Tindersticks 95' Tindersticks Curtains Tortoise Tortoise Tortoise Millions now living will never die Travis The invisible band Travis The man who T-Rex The best of Marc Bolan & T-Rex part 2 T-Rex A BBC history T-Rex The best of Marc Bolan & T-Rex part 1 Tricky Maxinquaye TV Personalities The very best of U2 The unforgettable fire U2 The best of 1980-1990 U2 All that you can't leave behind U2 Achtung baby Undertones, The Teenage kicks: The best of V V.A A Songs of The Jam V V.A A Relax! Ultimate 80's mix vol. 2 V V.A A RDL:Slam mix soma V V.A A The public gets what the public wants Split V V.A A RDL:Nuphonic V V.A A RDL:Rocket girl V V.A A RDL:Kitty-yo V V.A A RDL:Domino V V.A A RDL:Music first V V.A A Vol. 6 Split V V.A A RDL:Cooking vinyl V V.A A RDL:Momentos 2002 V V.A A RDL:Bells in Barcelona V V.A A OST - Moulin Rouge V V.A A OST - Romeo And Juliet V V.A A RDL:Landspeed records V V.A A Vol. 5 Split V V.A A Love shack V V.A A Motwon forever V V.A A Pop will tear us apart Split V V.A A The public wants what the public gets Split V V.A A RDL:Grabaciones en el mar V V.A A RDL:21 inéditos V V.A A Vol. 1 Split V V.A A RDL:Cheaply made, cheaply priced V V.A A OST - 24 Hour Party People V V.A A RDL:Esan Ozenki V V.A A Factory nº 25 V V.A A RDL:Sub Pop V V.A A Vol. 2 Split V V.A A RDL:Ninja tune V V.A A Factory nº 16 V V.A A Vol. 3 Split V V.A A Disco fever part 2 V V.A A Disco fever part 1 V V.A A RDL:Ondas de resistencia V V.A A RDL:Selección natural V V.A A RDL:Primavera sound 2002 V V.A A Vol. 4 Split V V.A A RDL:Lithium V V.A A RDL:The hits hurt V V.A A RDL:Directo al corazón V V.A A Reading 95* V V.A A RDL:Elefant V V.A A Desafinado: 37 clásicos inolvidables del Brasil* V V.A A RDL:Minifunk V V.A A Relax! Ultimate 80's mix vol. 1 V V.A A Factory nº 23 Velvet Underground, The Peel slowly and see (5 disc box set) Velvet Underground, The White light/White heat Velvet Underground, The Loaded Velvet Underground, The The Velvet Underground Velvet Underground, The VU Velvet Underground, The The Velvet Underground & Nico Verve, The Urban hymns Violent femmes Violent femmes Waits, Tom Rain dogs Waits, Tom Closing time Walker, Scott & The Walker Brothers No regrets: The best of 1965-1976 Waterboys, The This is the sea Weather Report The best of Wedding Present, The Singles 1995-1997 Weezer Green album Weller, Paul Modern Classics Who, The My generation - The very best of Who, The Who's next Wilco Yankee Hotel Foxtrot Young, Neil & Crazy Horse Rust never sleeps Young, Neil & Crazy Horse Zuma Young, Neil & Crazy Horse After the gold rush

Er.... I thought it was only New Order and Joy Division we were discussing in this thread!

I know, but why not make the topic wider?

okay add this to my original list: Technique "FINE TIME IN IBIZA" Poster Both peel session cdS Books: Touching from a distance from Joy Division to New Order Joy Division (Mostly picures came out in 84) Joy divisoin Lyrics(has the lyrics in english and Italian) 511 dvd(if it ever gets to my house)

Originally posted by frank smarra > Originally posted by Dave_Barrie> Hey Frank - what's that Rock Family Trees thing? Is that a book about Manchester bands? I've never heard of that one...> >

no its kind of like behind the music, it covers most manchester bands but mostly new order and joy division its about 60mins and narrated by john peel , i think its from 97 because they still hadnt gotten back together yet( i think)

Ah, yes, I remember what series you mean now - thanks for that - I don't think I saw that one sadly - I caught one about London punk bands (I think it had Siouxsie and Adam and the Ants in it) but that was it.

In the words of Wayne and Garth

I'm not worthy

Mine for what its worth

Low Life, Technique, Brotherhood & Substance on Factory LP

All albums on CD (but on shitty London)

& 3 16

Just a taster..i have aprox 400 items from JOY DIVISION,NEW ORDER,REVENGE,MONACO,THE OTHER TWO,ELECTRONIC,SUB SUB and several other FACTORY bands. FAC 53 in ALL UK ORIGINAL 9 COLOURS...FANTASTIC..thanks to MURV and HUNTSMAN for the last TWO. The rest to follow later:D

Originally posted by Rocket Mick Just a taster..i have aprox 400 items from JOY DIVISION,NEW ORDER,REVENGE,MONACO,THE OTHER TWO,ELECTRONIC,SUB SUB and several other FACTORY bands.FAC 53 in ALL UK ORIGINAL 9 COLOURS...FANTASTIC..thanks to MURV and HUNTSMAN for the last TWO.The rest to follow later:D

Aye..Rockster! Bring it on!! Let's see yer assets in their entirety, I believe your stash is a formidable one too! As for some of the others who I suspect are equally well-endowed (oo-er missus..) in this department - Al Jarvo, Benny, etc... the bootleg kings...whoever... it would be greet to see what loot they've got to place on display here..... ;)

Originally posted by Spotnick Rocket Mick, are you the person who bought the "complete Factory discography" that was featured a few years ago on EBay? Seriously, that was a gem, and it cost a lot of money to the buyer..

No i only buy from RECORD shops i can visit if possible.Bought some mail order stuff but nothing of E-BAY. I like the buzz of discovering an ORIGINAL hiding away in some backstreet dodgy old record store.But each to their own!Brilliant and interesting thread by HUBERT though

CEREMONY 7": AU 1981 (EMI/Gap SFA-541) 7": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 33) [gold sleeve] 12": AU 1981 (GAP/CBS FAC 33) gold lable promo 12": AU 1981 (GAP/CBS FAC 33)
12": IT 1981 (Factory/Base FAC 33) [bronze sleeve] 12": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 33) FAC33A1 12": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 33) [cream/blue sleeve] FAC33 12": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 33)WLP

PROCESSION 7": IT 1981 (Factory FAC 53) 7”: FR 1981(Factory FAC 53) 7": NZ 1981 (Factory FAC 53)yellow sticker 7": NZ 1981 (Factory FAC 53)light blue sticker 7": PG 1981 (Factory/Vimusica VFACT 110-2 7": SP 1981 (Nuevos Medios 20 008S 7": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 53) set black, red, blue, brown, yellow, orange, green, aqua and purple

EVERTHINGS GONE GREEN 12": BL 1981 (Factory Benelux FBNL 8 CD5: BL 1990 (Factory Benelux FBN 8 CD

TEMPTATION 7": UK 1982 (Factory FAC 63 12": UK 1982 (Factory FAC 63

XMAS FLEXI 7": UK 1982 (Factory FAC 51b) [flexi

BLUE MONDAY 7": PL 1983 (Tonpress S-534 12": NZ 1983 (EMI/GAP GOOD 10 12": UK 1983 (Factory FAC 73) 12": UK 1983 (Factory FAC 73) [white label promo]

CONFUSION 7": UK 1983 (Factory FAC 93) [promo 7": GE 1983 (Rough Trade LC 5661) [1 sided promo green, lime, blue, purple 12": NZ 1983 (EMI GOOD 501) 12": UK 1983 (Factory FAC 93) 12": US 1983 (Streetwise SWRL 2213 New Music Seminar Special Edition

THIEVES LIKE US 7": UK 1984 (Factory FAC 103) [promo] 12": UK 1984 (Factory FAC 103)

MURDER 12": BL 1984 (Factory Benelux FBN 22)

THE PERFECT KISS 12": AU 1985 (Factory FAC 123) 12": UK 1985 (Factory FAC 123)

SUBCULTURE 7": UK 1985 (Factory FAC 133 7": UK 1986 (Record Mirror RMEP2) 12": UK 1985 (Factory FAC 133)

SHELLSHOCK 7": UK 1986 (Factory FAC 143) 7": AU 1986 (A&M MX-66441) 12": AU 1986 (A&M/Factory/Festival X14286) 12": UK 1986 (Factory FAC 143)

STATE OF THE NATION 7": UK 1986 (Factory FAC 153) 12": AU 1986 (Factory/CBS FAC 153) 12": UK 1986 (Factory FAC 153) 12": UK 1986 (Factory FAC 153) white label promo

BIZARRE LOVE TRIANGLE 7": CA 1986 (PolyGram FAC 26) [gatefold sleeve] 7": UK 1986 (Factory FAC 163) 7": AU 1986 (Factory FAC 163153) 12": UK 1986 (Factory FAC 163) CD5:CA 1986(QWEST 2-20546)

TRUE FAITH 12": US 1986 (Qwest PRO-A-2644) [promo] 7": AU 1987 (Factory/CBS FAC 183-7) 7": UK 1987 (Factory FAC 183-7) 7": UK 1987 (Factory FAC 183-7 white label promo 12": AU 1987 (Factory/CBS FAC 183 12": UK 1987 (Factory FAC 183) 12": UK 1987 (Factory FAC 183R) 12": AU 1987 (Factory/CBS FAC 183R) CD5: US 1987 (Qwest PRO-CD-2899) [promo] CDV: UK 1989 (Factory FACDV 183) [PAL]

TOUCHED BY THE HAND OF GOD 7": AU 1987 (Factory/CBS FAC 193-7) 7": UK 1987 (Factory FAC 193-7) 7": GE 1987 (Factory/Rough Trade RTD 031) CD3: JP 1987 (Factory/Nippon Columbia 10CY-8010) 12": AU 1987 (Factory/CBS FAC 193) 12": UK 1987 (Factory FAC 193) 12": UK 1987 (Factory FAC 193 white label promo CD5: JP 1988 (Factory/Nippon Columbia 15CY-5017) CD5: AU 1987 (Factory/CBS FACD 193) CD5: UK 1987 (Factory FACD 193)

BLUE MONDAY 88 7": AU 1988 (Factory/CBS FAC 73-7) 7": UK 1988 (Factory FAC 73-7) 7": BZ 1988 (BIZZ Magazine flexi) 12": AU 1988 (Factory/CBS FAC 73R) 12": UK 1988 (Factory FAC 73R) 12": UK 1988 (Factory FAC 73RD) CD3: JP 1988 (Factory/Nippon Columbia 10CY-8038) CD5: UK 1988 (Factory FACD 73R) CD5: US 1988 (Qwest PRO-CD-3053) [promo] CDV: UK 1988 (Factory FACDV 73R) [PAL]

FINE TIME 7": UK 1988 (Factory FAC 223-7) 12": AU 1990 (Factory/CBS FAC 223) 12": UK 1988 (Factory FAC 223) 12": UK 1988 (Factory FAC 223DJ) [pink sleeve promo] CD5: GE 1988 (Rough Trade RTDCD 046) CD5: UK 1988 (Factory FACD 223)

ROUND AND ROUND 12": AU 1989 (Factory/CBS FAC 263) CD3: UK 1989 (Factory FACD 263R) CD3: GE 1989 (Rough Trade RTDCD R 050) CD3: GE 1989 (Rough Trade RTDCD 050)

RUN 2 7": UK 1989 (Factory FAC 273-7) [promo] 12": UK 1989 (Factory FAC 273)

WORLD IN MOTION 7": UK 1990 (Factory/MNW FAC 293-7) CD3: GE 1990 (Factory/Rough Trade RTDCD 076) CD5:UK 1990(factory Facd293)

IN ORDER 12": US 1993 (Qwest PRO-A-5970) [promo] [orange vinyl] CD: US 1993 (Qwest PRO-CD-5970) [promo]

REGRET 2x12": UK 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. NUOXDJ1) [promo] CD5: UK 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. NUOCD1)857121.2] CD5: FR 1993 (Barclay 1648) [promo] 12": FR 1993 (Barclay) [promo]

RUINED IN A DAY 12": UK 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. NUOXDJ2)WLP CD5: UK 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. NUOCD 2) [Int 857219.2]

WORLD 2x12": UK 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. NUOXDJ 3) [promo] 2x12": US 1993 (Qwest PRO-A-6276) [promo] CD5: GE 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. Int 857301.2)

TRUE FAITH 94 12": UK 1994 (London Records 90 Ltd NUOXDJ5) [promo

NINETEEN 63 12": UK 1995 (London Records 90 Ltd NUXXDJ6) [promo CD5: UK 1995 (London Records 90 Ltd NUCDP6) CD5: AU 1995 (London Records 90 Ltd 857939-2)

BLUE MONDAY 1995 CD5: GE 1995 (London Records 90 Ltd Int 850039.2) ["Blauer"]

VIDEO 586 CD5: UK 1997 (Touch TONE 7)

BRUTAL CDR: UK 2000 (London Records) [promo] 4:49 Brutal

TRUE FAITH 12": US 2001 (Qwest/Reprise PRO-A-100645-A) [promo] CDR: US 1998 (Warner/Reprise) [promo]

CRYSTAL 12": UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NXXDJ8) [promo] 12": UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NXXDJ8) [promo]
12": UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NXXXDJ8) [promo] CD5: UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NUOCD8) CD5: UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NUCDP8) CD5: AU 2001 (London Records 092 740 701-2) DVD: UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NUDVD8) [PAL Region 2]

60 MILES AN HOUR CD5: UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NCDJ9) [promo] CD5: AU 2002 (London Records/WEA 092 743 453-2 DVD: AU 2001 (London Records 0927-42906-2)

SOMEONE LIKE YOU 2x12": GE 2001 (London Records/WEA 092 743 300-1) 2x12": UK 2001 (London Records NXDJ10) [promo] 2x12": UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NUOX10) 12": UK 2001 (London Records NXXDJ 10) [promo]

HERE TO STAY 2x12": US 2001 (Reprise Records PRO-A-100804) [promo] 2x12": UK 2002 (London Records NXXDJ11) [promo] CDR: UK 2002 (London Records NCDJ11) [promo] DVD: UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NUDVD1

CONFUSION 2002 12":UK 2002(whackt002) WLP CD:UK 2002(whackt 002CD)

MOVEMENT LP: IT 1981 (Factory/Base FACT 50) LP: UK 1981 (Factory FACT 50) CD: UK 1986 (Factory FACD 50) CD: US 1988 (Factory/Rough Trade FACTUS 50 CD)

1981-1982 LP: UK 1982 (Factory FACTUS 8) CD: CA 1989 (PolyGram 830 408-2)

POWER CORRUPTION AND LIES LP: GE 1983 (Factory/Rough Trade RTD11A) [testpress] LP: UK 1983 (Factory FACT 75) CD: UK 1986 (Factory FACD 75)

LOW LIFE LP: AR 1987 (Buelax VLX10002) LP: JP 1985 (Factory/Nippon Columbia YX-7352-AX) LP: UK 1985 (Factory FAC 100) CD: UK 1985 (Factory FACD 100)

BROTHERHOOD LP: UK 1986 (Factory FACT 150SP) [limited metallic sleeve] CD: UK 1986 (Factory FACD 150) [limited metallic sleeve] 2xLP: UK 1987 (Factory FACT 200S) [gatefold sleeve] CS: UK 1987 (Factory FACT 200C) [white box, ltd.ed. 2000]

TECHNIQUE LP: AR 1989 (DG 234) [testpress with withdrawn cover] LP: AR 1992 (London 29386 promo) LP: UK 1989 (Factory FACT 275) CD: UK 1989 (Factory FACD 275) DAT: UK 1989 (Factory FACT 275D)

CD: UK 2000 (Strange Fruit Records SFRSCD 095)

CD: UK 2000 (Strange Fruit SFRSCD093)

REPUBLIC LP: UK 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. 828413.1) CD: UK 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. 828413.2) CD: JP 1993 (Polydor K.K. POCD-1110) CD: US 1993 (Qwest 9 45311-2)

BEST OF CD: US 1995 (Qwest/Warner Bros. 9 45794-2) CD: UK 1994 (London Records 90 Ltd 828580.2) UK London Records promo box set

REST OF ltd CD: UK 1995 (London Records 90 Ltd 8286612)

20 YEARS OF CD: US 2001 (Reprise PRO-CD-100667) [promo]

GET READY CD: FR 2001 (WEA/London 8573 89621-2) with comic booklet. CD: UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd 8573 89621-2) CD: GR 2001 (Warner Music Greece PRO 170) [promo CD: 2001 (PR02704) ["Interview 2001"] [promo]

EXTRA ORDER CD5: US 2001 (Reprise Records PRO-CD-100784) [promo]

INTERNATIONAL CS:JP 2002 (Warner WPCR11420) sample tape CD:TW 2002(London 0927-49226-2) CD:UK 2002(London 0927-492262) CD:FR 2002(London 5050466144522) CD:US 2002(Rhino R2 73835) CD:EU 2002 sample(Pro3646)

RETRO CD:UK 2002 5 disc boxset(0927-49499-2) CD:US 2002 promo(PRCD 400073)

JOY DIVISION/NEW ORDER COLLECTION CD:JP 1993 (Polydor DCI3098)

PALATINE ROAD promo CD:FR 1991 (FAC 303)

Classic...even if it is a bit LARGE.Well done MURV!

Originally posted by Rocket Mick Classic...even if it is a bit LARGE.Well done MURV!

Thanks R.M... anyone know how to resize images for an avatar?

Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by 404 error> > Temptation (Canadian) cd single>

Did I miss something? What's THAT?

Nah, I just meant the Canadian only cd version of the factus 81-82 thingy, you know, the one with the Martha Ladly(?) (presumably of Martha and the Muffins) cover art. It was the only cd version of temptation 12" till retro (as I'm sure you know, mr polydor pampered Canadian).

Warsaw-Warsaw CD. 17 tracks (Portugal)

Joy Division-Peel Sessions CDS 31st January 1979 (UK) " -Unknown Pleasures CD Facd 10 w/CD Car Carry Case (UK) " -Peel Sessions CDS 26th November 1979 (UK) “ -Martin Hannett’s Personal Mixes CD (UK) " -Love Will Tear Us Apart 12" Fac 23 (UK) " -Closer CD Facd 25 w/CD Car Carry Case (UK) " -She's Lost Control 12" Facus 2 (US) " -Still LP Fact 40 (UK) " -Still CD Facd 40 (UK) " -Atmosphere CDS Facd 213 (UK) " -"Here are the Young Men" VHS Fact 37 (US) " -Substance CD (US) " -Love Will Tear Us Apart CDS 6 tracks (CA) " -Permanent CD (US) “ -Love Will Tear Us Apart CDS 2007 (UK) “ -Joy Division DVD documentary (US)

New Order-Peel Sessions CDS 26th January 1981 (UK) " -Ceremony 7" Fac 33 (UK) " -Ceremony 12" Fac 33/12 bronze(IT) " -Ceremony 12" Fac 33/12 green (UK) " -Ceremony 12" Fac 33/12 blue stripe (UK) " -Procession 7" Fac 53 teal (UK) " -Movement LP Fact 50 (UK) " -Movement CD Facd 50 (UK) " -Movement LP Fact 50 (US) “ -Movement CDx2 (US) " -Everything's Gone Green 12" FBN 8 (EU) " -Everything's Gone Green CDS FBN 8 CD (Austria) " -Taras Shevchenko VHS Fact 77 (US) " -Temptation 7" Fac 63 (UK) " -Temptation 12" Fac 63 (UK) " -Temptation edit - Something Wild CD " -1981-1982 12" FEP 313 (CA) " -1981-1982 CDS FEP 313 (CA) " -Video 586 12" (UK) " -Video 586 CDS (UK) " -Peel Sessions CDS May 1982 (UK) " -Blue Monday 12" Fac 73 (UK) " -Blue Monday Razormaid Remix - Hit That Perfect Beat CD " -Power, Corruption & Lies CD Facd 75 w/CD Car Carry Case (UK) " -Power, Corruption & Lies LP (US) “ -Power, Corruption & Lies CDx2 (US) " -Confusion 7" Fac 93/7 green vinyl promo (GE) " -Confusion 12" Fac 93 (UK) " -Confusion 12" Fac 93 (OZ) " -Confusion Rough Mix edit - The Perfect Beats Volume 2 CD " -Thieves Like Us 7" Fac 103 (UK) " -Thieves Like US 12" Fac 103 (UK) " -Murder 12" FBN 22 (Holland) " -The Perfect Kiss 12" Fac 123 (UK) " -The Perfect Kiss 7" promo (US) " -The Perfect Kiss 12" promo (US) " -The Perfect Kiss 12" (US) " -Low-Life CD Facd 100 (UK) " -Low-Life LP (US) “ -Low-Life CDx2 (US) " -Sub-Culture 7" Fac 133 promo (UK) " -Sub-Culture 12" Fac 133 (UK) " -Sub-Culture 12" 3 tracks (US) " -Shellshock original version - Pretty in Pink CD " -Shellshock 7" Fac 143 (UK) " -Shellshock 12" Fac 143 (UK) " -Shellshock 12" (US) " -Pumped Full of Drugs VHS (US) " -State of the Nation 7" Fac 153 (UK) " -State of the Nation 12" Fac 153 (UK) " -Brotherhood CD Facd 150 metallic cover w/CD Car Carry Case (UK) " -Brotherhood LP (US) “ -Brotherhood CDx2 (US) " -Bizarre Love Triangle 7" Fac 26 gatefold (CA) " -Bizarre Love Triangle 12" Fac 163 (UK) " -Bizarre Love Triangle 12" 4 tracks (US) " -Bizarre Love Triangle CDS promo 2 tracks (US) " -Bizarre Love Triangle CDS 5 tracks (US) " -Way of Life 12" promo (US) " -Evil Dust - Funky Alternatives CD " -BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert CD box #43 of 2000 (UK) " -BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert CD (US) " -True Faith 12" Fac 183 (OZ) " -True Faith 12" Fac 183R (UK) " -True Faith CDV Facdv 183 (UK) " -True Faith 7" (US) " -True Faith 12" promo in 1987 Tour 3 pack (US) " -True Faith 12" (US) " -True Faith CDS promo 3 tracks (US) " -True Faith Remix edit - Bright Lights, Big City CD " -North American Tour 1987 9" flexi promo (US) " -Substance LP (US) " -Substance CD (JP) " -Salvation! CD 6 New Order tracks (GE) " -Touched by the Hand of God 12" Fac 193 (UK) " -Touched by the Hand of God CDS Facd 193 (UK) " -Touched by the Hand of God CDS 3" (JP) " -Bizarre Love Triangle Stephen Hague mix - Married to the Mob CD " -Blue Monday 1988 7" Fac 73-7 (UK) " -Blue Monday 1988 CDS Facd 73R (UK) " -Blue Monday 1988 12" 4 tracks (US) " -Blue Monday 1988 CDS 5 tracks (CA) " -Blue Monday 1988 CDS promo 3 tracks (US) " -Sister Ray live - Like a Girl...CD " -Fine Time 12" Fac 223 (UK) " -Fine Time 12" Fac 223R (UK) " -Fine Time CDS Facd 223 (UK) " -Fine Time 12" promo 6 tracks reverse sticker (US) " -Fine Time 12" 6 tracks (US) " -Fine Time CDS 5 tracks (CA) " -Technique CD Facd 275 (UK) " -Technique LP (US) “ -Technique CDx2 (US) " -Round & Round 7" Fac 263/7 (UK) " -Round & Round 12" Fac 263 (UK) " -Round & Round/Remix 12" Fac 263R/Fac 263DJ (UK) " -Round & Remix 12" Fac 263R (UK) " -Round & Round/Remix CDS Facd 263 (UK) " -Round & Remix CDS Facd 263R 3" (UK) " -Round & Round 7" (US) " -Round & Round 12" (US) " -Round & Round CDS 4 track promo w/album edit (US) " -Round & Round CDS 5 tracks (CA) " -Run2 12" Fac 273 (UK) " -Substance 1989 VHS (US) " -World in Motion 7" Fac 293-7 (FR) " -World in Motion 12" Fac 293 (UK) " -World in Motion 12" Fac 293R (UK) " -World in Motion CDS Facd 293 (UK) " -World in Motion 12" (US) " -World in Motion CDS (US) " -World in Motion CDS 6 tracks (CA) " -Confusion (Remix) 12" 6 tracks Minimal (US) " -Confusion DMC remix - Volume One CD " -Theme (Hommage A MGM) - Moving Soundtracks CD " -Regret 7" NUO1 (FR) " -Regret 12" NUOX1 (UK) " -Regret CDS NUOCD1 (UK) " -Regret 12" (US) " -Regret/Confusion CDS jukebox disc (CA) " -Regret CDS 2 tracks (US) " -Regret CDS 4 tracks (US) " -Republic CD 13 tracks (JP) " -Republic LP (UK) " -Ruined in a Day 12" NUOXDJ2 promo w/instrumental (UK) " -Ruined in a Day 12" NUOX2 (UK) " -Ruined in a Day CDS NUOCD2 (UK) " -Ruined in a Day CDS NUOCDP2 (UK) " -World 12" promo double pack 8 tracks (US) " -World 12" 6 tracks (US) " -World CDS 2 tracks (US) " -World CDS 7 tracks (US) " -World CDS NUOCD3 (UK) " -World CDS NUOCDP3 (UK) " -NewOrder Story VHS 140 minutes (CA) " -NewOrder Story VHS 60 minutes (US) " -Spooky 12" NUOX4 (UK) " -Spooky CDS NUOCD4 (UK) " -Spooky CDS NUOCDP4 (UK) " -Spooky CDS 8 tracks (US) " -True Faith-94 7" NUO5 (UK) " -True Faith-94 12" NUOX5 (UK) " -True Faith-94 CDS NUOCD5 (UK) " -The Best of LP (UK) " -The Best of CD (UK) " -The Best of VHS 18 tracks (JP) " -Nineteen63 12" NUOX6 (UK) " -Nineteen63 CDS NUOCD6 (UK) " -Nineteen63 CDS NUOCDP6 cut box (UK) " -The Best of CD 17 tracks (US) " -Blue Monday-95 CDS 6 tracks (CA) " -Blue Monday-95 12" NUOX7 (UK) " -Blue Monday-95 CDS Blauer (GE) " -Blue Monday-95 CDS Montag (GE) " -Blue Monday-95 CDS NUOCD7 (UK) " -The Rest of LP (UK) " -The Rest of CD w/ FREE CD 1 (UK) “ -Confusion/Re-Mover CDS (UK) [Pump Panel Reconstruction & Flotation mixes] " -Everything's Gone Green CDS The Advent mixes (GE) " -Brutal - The Beach CD (US) " -Touched by the Hand of God BIAS mix - Manchester United... CD " -True Faith 12" promo 8 tracks of 2001 mixes (US) " -Crystal CDS w/4 live (JP) " -Crystal CDS NUOCD8 (UK) " -Crystal CDS NUOCDP8 (UK) " -Crystal DVD NUDVD8 (UK) " -Crystal CDS 9 tracks (US) " -Crystal DVD (US) " -Get Ready CD 11 tracks (JP) " -60 Miles an Hour CDS NUOCD9 (UK) " -60 Miles an Hour CDS NUOCDP9 (UK) " -60 Miles an Hour CDS 6 tracks (OZ) " -Someone Like You 12" NUOX10 double pack (UK) " -Here to Stay 12" NUOX11 (UK) " -Here to Stay CDS NUOCD11 (UK) " -Here to Stay CDS NUOCDP11 (UK) " -Here to Stay DVD NUDVD11 (UK) " -Here to Stay CDS 6 tracks (OZ) " -World in Motion CDS NUOCD12 (UK) " -Confusion 12" WACKT002 '02 remixes (UK) " -Confusion 12" WACKT002RE '02 remixes (UK) " -Confusion CDS WACKT002CD '02 remixes (UK) " -Retro CD 5 disc box (UK) " -511 DVD (CA) " -International CD+5 Track CDEP (GE) " -International CD+DVD (US) " -Vietnam - War Child Hope CD (UK) " -The Peter Saville Show Soundtrack CD (UK) " -316 DVD (US) " -Pumped Full of Drugs DVD (JP) " -In Session CD (UK) “ -Krafty 12” NUOX13 (UK) “ -Krafty CDS NUOCD13 (UK) “ -Krafty CDS NUCDP13 (UK) “ -Waiting for the Sirens’ Call CD 14 tracks (JP) “ -Waiting for the Sirens’ Call CD 12 tracks (US) “ -Krafty 12” 8 tracks (US) “ -Krafty CDS 7 tracks (US) “ -Jestream 12” NUOX14 (UK) “ -Jetstream CDS NUOCD14 (UK) “ -Jetstream CDS NUCDP14 (UK) “ -Jetstream CDS 8 tracks (US) “ -Waiting for the Sirens’ Call 7” NUO15V1 “ -Waiting for the Sirens’ Call 7” NUO15V2 “ -Waiting for the Sirens’ Call 7” NUO15V3 + 3x7” Holder “ -Waiting for the Sirens’ Call CDS NUOCD15 (UK) “ -Colorcalm by Design DVD includes Elegia Terranova Remix (US) “ -Item DVDx2 A Collection & New Order Story (US) “ -Waiting for the Sirens’ Call 12” NSER007 (UK) “ -Someone Like You 12” NSER008 (UK) “ -Confusion/Crystal 12” NSER009 (UK) “ -Confusion/Everything’s Gone Green/Waiting for the Sirens’ Call 12” NSER010 (UK) “ -Jetstream/Someone Like You 12” NSER011 (UK) “ -Krafty/Jetstream 12” NSER012 (UK) “ -Here to Stay/Jetstream 12” NSER014 (UK) “ -Bizarre Love Triangle/Round & Round/True Faith/Fine Time 12” NSER015 (UK) “ -True Faith/Regret 12” NSER016 (UK) “ -Bizarre Love Triangle/Jetstream/Shellshock/Thieves Like Us 12” NSER018 (UK) “ -Sub-Culture/State of the Nation/I Told You So 12” NSER019 (UK) “ -Singles promo CD 32 tracks (US) “ -Singles CD 33 tracks (JP) “ -Control OST CD (US) “ -Temptation 7” (US) “ -Live in Glasgow DVD (US)

Revenge-Revenge 12" Fac 247 3 tracks (UK) " -Revenge CDS Facd 247 4 tracks (UK) " -Wende - Home CD " -Pineapple Face 12" Fac 267 3 tracks (UK) " -Pineapple Face CDS Facd 267 3 tracks (UK) " -Pineapple Face CDS 6 tracks (US) " -One True Passion CD 9 tracks (US) " -Slave 12" Fac 279 3 tracks (UK) " -Slave CDS Facd 279 4 tracks (UK) " -Slave 12" 5 tracks (US) " -Slave CDS 9 tracks (US) " -White Light, White Heat - Heaven and Hell Tribute CD " -Gun World Porn CDS Facd 327 4 tracks " -State of Shock/Little Pig 12" 5 tracks (US) " -Gun World Porn CDS 7 tracks (US) “ -Televive/The Wilding Promo LTM CDS " -One True Passion V2.0 LTMCD 2375

Electronic-Getting Away With It 7" Fac 257/7 (UK) " -Getting Away With It 12" Fac 257 (UK) " -Getting Away With It 12" Fac 257R (UK) " -Getting Away With It CDS Facd 257 (UK) " -Getting Away With It CDS 7 tracks (US) " -Get the Message 12" Fac 287 promo (UK) " -Get the Message 12" Fac 287 (UK) " -Get the Message CDS 6 tracks (GE) " -Get the Message CDS 5 tracks (US) " -Electronic LP Fact 290 promo 10 tracks (UK) " -Electronic CD 11 tracks (US) " -Feel Every Beat 12" Fac 328 (UK) " -Feel Every Beat CDS Facd 328 " -Feel Every Beat 12" 6 tracks (US) " -Feel Every Beat CDS 7 tracks (US) " -Disappointed CDS (UK) " -Disappointed CDS (US) " -Forbidden City CDS (UK) " -Forbidden City CDS (OZ) " -Raise the Pressure CD (US) " -For You CDS 1 (UK) " -For You CDS 2 (UK) " -Second Nature CDS 1 (UK) " -Second Nature CDS 2 (UK) " -Twisted Tenderness Sampler CD 4 tracks TWISTEDJ01 (UK) " -Vivid CDS 1 (UK) " -Vivid CDS 2 (UK) " -Twisted Tenderness CD 12 tracks (JP) " -Late at Night CDS 1 (UK) " -Late at Night CDS 2 (UK) " -Twisted Tenderness: Deluxe CDx2 (US) “ -Get the Message: The Best of Electronic CD+DVD (UK)

Other Two-Tasty Fish 7" Fac 329/7 (UK) " -Tasty Fish 12" Fac 329 (UK) " -Tasty Fish CDS Facd 329 (UK) " -Selfish 12" TWOX1 (UK) " -Selfish CDS TWOCD1 (UK) " -Selfish CDS 6 tracks (US) " -The Other Two & You CD mirror cover (UK) “ -The Other Two and You LTMCD 2551 " -Innocence 12" 5 tracks (US) " -Super Highways CDS TWOCD3 (UK) " -Super Highways CD (UK) “ -Super Highways LTMCD 2553

Monaco-What Do You Want From Me? CDS (UK) " -Sweet Lips CDS 1 (UK) " -Sweet Lips CDS 2 (UK) " -Music for Pleasure CD (UK) " -Music for Pleasure CD 11 tracks (US) " -Shine CDS (UK) " -You Should be Dancing - Bee Gees Tribute CD " -I've Got a Feeling CDS (UK) " -Monaco CD (UK) " -See Saw 12" DJFLY 152 double pack promo (UK)

Bad Lieutenant-Never Cry Another Tear CD 15 tracks (JP)

Freebass-Two Worlds Collide CDS (UK) “ -It’s a Beautiful Life CD 26 tracks (UK)

I'm not going to list collaborations, books, CD-R & video bootlegs, etc because my fingers hurt.

Originally posted by Andy T Warsaw-Warsaw CD. 17 tracks (Portugal)

I was quite suprised to find my local library had this.

That is one hell of a list there Andy - do you have a warehouse over there dealing with all their collectibles or something? Good grief!!!

Mine is so puny in comparison it can't possibly compare! It's like David taking on Goliath!

Factory versions are asterisked*

JOY DIVSION All their albums on CD: (Unknown Pleasures/Closer*/Still/Permanent/Substance/Preston 1979/Les Bains Douches/Peel Sessions) Also Substance on vinyl LP * Cassette version also of Still (in purple limited box*)

Box set Heart & Soul

Singles: Love Will Tear Us Apart 7" * and 12" * Atmosphere 12" * Atmosphere 1988 7"* 12"*

NEW ORDER All albums on CD: (Movement (also on vinyl*) /PC&L (also on vinyl*) /LowLife (also on vinyl*)/Brotherhood*/Substance/ Technique*/Republic/Live 1987 (vinyl) / Peel sessions LP and CD / Best Of / Get Ready Cassette versions also of: Substance (original blue/red box)* and Technique *

Singles: Ceremony 7*/12* (green) EGG 7 (red) * Temptation 7* and 12* Blue Monday 12* Confusion 12* Thieves 12* Murder 12* Perfect Kiss 12* Shellshock 7* 12* State of the Nation 7* 12* Bizarre Love Triangle 7* 12 US version, 12* True Faith 7* 12* 12 remix* Touched By Hand Of God 7* 12* Blue Monday 88 12* Fine Time 12* Round & Round 12* and 12 remix* Regret 12 and CD Ruined in a Day CD1 World Price Of Love CD1 Spooky CD1 True Faith 94 CD 1963 CD2 (white box) Crystal CD1 Here To Stay CD1

(I'm rather suspicious about multiformatting of CDsingles as it is especially when they feature naff remixes)

DVD Crystal Here To Stay Finsbury 3 16

Video: Pumped Full Of Drugs New Order Story

Shit - I forgot to include

RETRO as well!

:(

Originally posted by Spotnick Use the function Edit to update your list..

I found out I missed a few myself, like the 24HPP soundtrack and Back To Mine.

This thread made me find out there is a EGG CD Single, I must say I'm surprised, but it's there, available for sale at HMV.com kind of weird, but I'll have to order it, just like the BLT CD Single I didn't buy when it came out because, well, I had most of the things on it.

For completists, which I'm not, there is a Get Ready LP available ;)

Boy, what a lot of money we'll waste when the music industry will create a new music format standard such as DVD Audio or, well, my dream actually, ROM Memory cards.. ;)

I expect boxsets to be replaced by audio DVD's within a couple of years. DVDs' greater storage capacity and the lower price of DVD players point in that direction.

It would only take a few DVD's to realize the Recycle project.

Originally posted by Spotnick Use the function Edit to update your list..

I found out I missed a few myself, like the 24HPP soundtrack and Back To Mine.

This thread made me find out there is a EGG CD Single, I must say I'm surprised, but it's there, available for sale at HMV.com kind of weird, but I'll have to order it, just like the BLT CD Single I didn't buy when it came out because, well, I had most of the things on it.

For completists, which I'm not, there is a Get Ready LP available ;)

Boy, what a lot of money we'll waste when the music industry will create a new music format standard such as DVD Audio or, well, my dream actually, ROM Memory cards.. ;)

Cheers for the tip! I was alittle disorganised I've seen the vinyl of Get Ready two months after the CD was released in UK - it was kind of snuck out with no fanfare and as such that probably explains why so many people never knew about it. Typical record companies eh? Sadly I don't have the LP, but what's this about Everythings Gone Green and Bizarre LT on CD? Are these just native to Canada/US per chance?

Originally posted by Percolator That is one hell of a list there Andy - do you have a warehouse over there dealing with all their collectibles or something? Good grief!!!

There are thousands of record stores in California. The trick was finding the ones that carried what I was after. I've lived in the middle of the state most of my life so trips to the San Francisco area or the Los Angeles area for gigs or whatnot always included a trawl through the best import shops.

Working at record stores from 1986 to 1998 also had it's benefits.

Originally posted by Andy T > Originally posted by Percolator> > > That is one hell of a list there Andy - do you have a warehouse over there dealing with all their collectibles or something? Good grief!!!> >

There are thousands of record stores in California. The trick was finding the ones that carried what I was after. I've lived in the middle of the state most of my life so trips to the San Francisco area or the Los Angeles area for gigs or whatnot always included a trawl through the best import shops.

Working at record stores from 1986 to 1998 also had it's benefits.

Have to say that that is very impressive - to be a dedicated collector like that takes much time, patience, and above all.... MONEY!! :D

factory years

7" fac 33 ceremony (2 copies slight colour variation) vfact110-2 procession/e.g.g. blue sleeve fac 63 temptation lc5661 confusion lime green one sided fac 103 thieves like us fac 123 perfect kiss (steve & gillian sleeve) fac 133 subculture rmep2 record mirror exclusive mix of subculture fac 143 shellshock fac 153-7 state of the nation fac 163-7 blt fac 26 - canadian gatefold sleeve blt (wrongly numbered - fac 26 is a poster for a durutti column paris gig that was cancelled) fac 183-7 true faith fac 193-7 touched qwest 7-27979 blue monday 88 promo 7" (says remixed by john "tokes" potoker) fac 223-7 fine time fac 263-7 round &round fac 273/7 run2 fac 293-7 wim

12" fac 33 ceremony green sleeve fac 33 cream blue sleeve - original version fac 33 cream & blue - re-recorded version fbn8 e g g fac 63 temptation factus 8 - 1981-1982 ep fac 73 blue monday (die cut & non die cut) silver inner sleeve & black inner sleeve fac 93 confusion minimal records qal-249 confusion remix ep fac 103 thieves fbn22 murder fac123 tpk (crimson inner sleeve) rtd 022t tpk with the lettering in gold text instead of embossed fac 133 sub-culture fac 143 shell shock fac 153 state of the nation sfps 001 peel session 1/6/82 copper sleeve fac 163 blt fac 183 true faith fac 183r true faith remix sfps 039 peel session 26/1/81 fac 193 touched fac 223 fine time fac 223r fine time rmix fac 263 round & round fac 263r round & round remix fac 263dj round & round other mixes fac 273 run2 wfacx293 wim dj12" fac 293 wim fac 293r wim remix

cds

qwest 9 20546-2 blt us cd facd193 touched facd73 blue monday 88 facd 223 fine time facd263 r&r 5" facd263r r&r 3" facd 293 wim fbn 8 cd egg (previously only place to get cries & whispers on cd)

cdv

true faith

album

fact 50 movement fact 75 pc & l fact 100 low life low life italian import on base records - no tracing paper but silver & black text printed on sleeve fact 150 brotherhood fact 200s the gatefold substance fact 275 tehnique

cassette

fact 100c in white linen box fact 150c " " " " fact 200c " " " " ror 1 discreet campaigns inc sunrise instrumental (rough mix) t 01 featuremist inc prime 586 parts 1 & 2 palatine box set fac305c select magazine compilation

dat

fact275d technique

cd

facd50 movement facd75 p c & l facd100 low life qwest 9 25511-2 brotherhood facd200 substance facd275 technique IPCD2022-36 salvation (german) win cd011 bbc radio 1 in concert

other

new order advertising technique - sticker free with nme fac 227 fred fact page from nme fac 351 the hacienda must be built fac177 pfd fact225 substance video academy (withdrawn sleeve) from joy division to new order mick middles fac191* various white labels in 7 & 12" volume 1 - incl confusion remixed by dimitri for dmc eva-tone 1028121xs - flexi from us tour 87 feat shame o the nation will add post factory years & check what have fogotten at later date.

*not really

Am I right in guessing Dave, that Fac 191 was the number given to the Hacienda's Cat?!!

Here's mine *=factory

JD Italian songbook 7" The ideal beginning 12" reissue (uk) An ideal for living 12" reissue (uk) Warsaw lp (brown sleeve with green stamp)(us) Warsaw cd (ger) Transmission 7" (uk)* Transmission 12" (uk)* Unknown Pleasures lp (ca)* Unknown Pleasures cd (uk)* Komakino flexi (uk)* Atmosphere 12" (ca)* LWTUA 12" (ca)* LWTUA 7" (uk)* Closer lp (uk)* Closer cd (ca)* Still lp (ca)* Still cd (us)* Atmosphere(88) 12" (uk)* Atmosphere(88) cds (uk)* Substance lp (ger)* Substance cd (ca)* LWTUA(95) cds (ca) Permanent cd (us) both peel sessions eps (ca) BBC recordings cd (ca) Short Circuit 10" lp (uk) -live boots- Retrospective part2 lp Dantes Inferno lp Amsterdam lp Komackino lp

NO

Ceremony 7" (uk)* Ceremony 12" green (uk)* Ceremony 12" blue stripe (uk)* Movement lp (ca)* Movement cd (uk)* Procession 7" orange (uk)* EGG 12" (ben)* Temptation 7" (uk)* Temptation 12" (uk)* Temptation 12" (hol)* 1981-1982 ep (ca)* 1981-1982 cd (ca)* Blue Monday 12" (us)* PCL lp (ca)* PCL cd (ca)* Confusion 12" sreetwise promo (us) Confusion 12" (uk)* Confusion 12" (ca)* Thieves like us 12" (uk)* Thieves like us 12" (ca)* Murder 12" (ben)* Sub-Culture 12" (uk)* TPK 12" black inner sleeve (uk)* TPK 12" blue inner sleeve (uk)* Low Life lp (ca)* Low Life lp (uk)* Low Life cd (ca)* Shellshock 12" (uk)* SOTN 12" (ca)* Brotherhood lp (ca)* Brotherhood cd (ca)* BLT 7" gatefold (ca)* BLT 12" (uk)* BLT cds (us) BLT/SOTN ep (us) True Faith 12" (ca)* True Faith remix 12" (aus)* Substance lp (ca)* Substance cd (ca)* TBTHOG 12" (uk)* Blue Monday 88 12" (uk)* Blue Monday 88 12" (ca)* Fine Time 12" (uk)* Fine Time remix 12" (uk)* Fine Time cds (uk)* Technique lp (us)* Technique cd (ca)* Round & Round 12" (uk)* Round & Round remixes 12" (ca)* Round & Round cds (uk)* Run2 12" (uk)* WIM 12" (uk)* WIM cds (ca)* Regret cds (uk) Republic cd (ca) Republic limited run cd (us) Ruined in a Day cds promo (uk) World cds (us) Spooky cds (uk) Best of cd (ca) Best of cd (us) Rest of cd (ca) Rest of ltd cd (ca) 1963 cds (uk) 1963 box (uk) Video 586 cds (uk) Crystal cds 9 tracks (us) Crystal cds 6 tracks (aus) Get Ready cd (ca) 60 MPH cds1 (uk) 60 MPH tour ep cd (aus) Someone Like You 2X12" (uk) Here to Stay promo cd (us) Here to Stay cds1 (uk) Here to Stay cds2 (uk) Confusion 2002 cds (uk) International cd (ca) Retro ltd (uk) BBC live lp (uk) BBC live cd (ca) both peel sessions eps (uk&ca) Peel sessions cd (ca) In session cd (uk) Interview picture disc 12" (??) Salvation OST lp (ca) Salvation OST cd (us) 24hpp OST cd (ca) -live boots- Ceremony lp 441 lp Chapter 3 LP

I think that is it...:)

12": Transmission Atmosphere/She's lost control Love will tear us apart The peel sessions Joy Division Ceremony/In a lonely place Everythings gone green/Mesh/Cries and whispers Temptation/Hurt Blue monday Confusion Thieves like us Murder The perfect kiss The Peel sessions New Order Subculture Bizarre love triangle State of the nation Shellshock

LP: Unknown pleasures Closer Still Movement 1981-1982 Power corruption and lies Low life Brotherhood Substance Joy Division

CD-single: Crystal

CD: Unknown pleasures Closer Still Movement Power, corruption and lies Brotherhood Technique Substance New Order BBC Radio 1 live in concert Republic Permanent The rest of Get ready New Order the John Peel sessions

DVD: 316

Side-projects: Revenge - One True Passion Electronic - Electronic Electronic - Raise the pressure Electronic - twisted tenderness Monaco - Music for pleasure Monaco - Monaco

Funny, when reading this list, its plain to see that about 1986 i didnt like their music anymore. Round that time they made their biggest crap: State of the nation and Shellshock. Actually i didnt like subculture and BLT also. Not because of the songs themselves, but because of the way they played it: too noisy, no subtleness in production. Also I didnt like the flirting with the disco music at the time. Therefore I missed the Technique period :(

Nanne

Originally posted by Percolator Am I right in guessing Dave, that Fac 191 was the number given to the Hacienda's Cat?!!

you are indeed.

post factory years

cds

regret world world cd2 ruined in a day ruined cd2 spooky spooky cd2 true faith 94 nineteen63 nineteen63 white box blau montag video 586 crystal japanese import crystal crystal cd2 60 mph 60mph cd2 wim here to stay here to stay cd2 true faith morel/steir remixes 6 track confusion 2002

cd

republic republic the limited run best of (us) best of (uk) rest of get ready retro 5 disc uk 20 years of new order new order in order

12" crystal - red green & orange stripes somebody like you here to stay

video

best of the neworder story

dvd

516 311

various artists cd's

q essential dance - feat true faith morels pink noise mix volume 15 - feat e g g advent mix q decades 86-96 - feat regret q the class of 93 - feat reunited in a day from manchester with love - feat blue monday - ritchie hawtin mix 24 hour party people soundtrack gay pride 2001 - feat true faith morels pink noide club mix the art of mix - feat round & round merry go round mix nme album of the year 2001 - feat turn my way

other stuff

best of new order slide puzzle get ready promo 6 panel cardboard thingy given away at olympia with pics of sleeve of get ready, crystal etc new order on tour 2002 the vikings badge ;)

Originally posted by Spotnick EGG on CD is actually original from Benelux I think (Belgium, Luxembourg and Netherlands), as I've seen on other discographies.

Yep. It's definitely not from Australia, I have it and it's a Benelux reissue.

I should post my collection here... Sometime...

:\pimp3:

Originally posted by dave hibell > Originally posted by Percolator> Am I right in guessing Dave, that Fac 191 was the number given to the Hacienda's Cat?!!

you are indeed.

I knew it!! Somehow I kind of twigged!

Originally posted by depthcharge > Originally posted by Spotnick> EGG on CD is actually original from Benelux I think (Belgium, Luxembourg and Netherlands), as I've seen on other discographies.

Yep. It's definitely not from Australia, I have it and it's a Benelux reissue.

I should post my collection here... Sometime...

:\pimp3:

I was using (AU) to signify Austria and (OZ) for Australia.

Originally posted by JE SUIS EGG NEW ORDER:VHSTaras ShevchenkoPFDAcademy (original sleeve)Substance 1989NeworderstoryThe best of (they're afraid of what they see)DVD3 166 10, sorry... 5 1112"Ceremony (spanish release)EGG (Les Disques du Crepuscule release)Temptation (dutch release)BM (spanish)Confusion (Factory)Thieves like us (Factory)Sub-culture (spanish)Shellshock (german/european release)State of the nation (spanish)BLT (Factory)True Faith (Factory)True Faith Remix (Factory)TBTHOG /Factory)BM 88 (Factory)Fine Time (Factory)Fine Time Remix (Factory)Round & round (Factory)Round & remix (Factory)World in motion (Factory/MCA)World in motion remix (Factory/MCA)Ruined in a dayWorldCD-singlesEGGBLT (Qwest release)RegretRIAD 2World 1&2Spooky 1&2True faith 94Nineteen63 1&2BM 95(I've got FOUR of this, all with different mixes! How low can you get?)Video 586Crystal 160 MPH 1&2Here to stay 1CD'sMovementPCLLow-lifeBrotherhoodSubstanceTechniqueRepublicThe best of (I had also the Rest of but lost it!)Get ReadyInternationalLP'sWell I had Movement, PCL, Low-life and Brotherhood but when I bought the CD versions I gave them to a cousin of mine!Boxed-setsRetroBootlegsAn american nameless, labeless double-vinyl with a gig from the (I suppose...) Substance tourEurope 1993 (an italian recording of the Reading 93 gig)JOY DIVISION:CD-singlesLWTUA 95CD'sUPCloserStillSubstance PermanentLP'sSee same answer as on New Order LP'sOTHER RELATED STUFF:PalatineA Factory outing VHSA means to an end

A few precisions about my otherwise miserable discography: My New Order LP's (the ones that I gave away) were all Factory originals. The Cd's I replaced them with are also Factory releases; The Factory era videos are all Ikon/Virgin Video (i.e.: originals too!); On the other hand the JD LP's were: UP- spanish release Closer and Still- portuguese releases The CD's are all, unfortunately, London reissues... My EGG 12" and CD-single are not by Les Disques du Crepuscule, but Factory Benelux (same thing really, but the completist in me won't let that go by!)

Originally posted by depthcharge > Originally posted by Spotnick> EGG on CD is actually original from Benelux I think (Belgium, Luxembourg and Netherlands), as I've seen on other discographies.

Yep. It's definitely not from Australia, I have it and it's a Benelux reissue.

I should post my collection here... Sometime...

:\pimp3:

In the record collector article it says that although EGG on fbn8cd was factory benelux it WAS an australian release!

Originally posted by hibster > Originally posted by depthcharge> > > > Originally posted by Spotnick> > EGG on CD is actually original from Benelux I think (Belgium, Luxembourg and Netherlands), as I've seen on other discographies.>

Yep. It's definitely not from Australia, I have it and it's a Benelux reissue.

I should post my collection here... Sometime...

:\pimp3:

In the record collector article it says that although EGG on fbn8cd was factory benelux it WAS an australian release! Well my CD of this is made in AUSTRIA but for FACTORY BENELUX.But i am not sure just where in FACT it was released!Facts sometimes stranger than fiction.What a nightmare this used to ALL be when trying to track down a certain CD or 12 inch etc.Now one can just ask 1000 NOOL's the question and then order via the INTERNET,not as much fun or WORRY though! :D

A friend of mine from work has just given me her copy Sub Culture 12" Extended Remix on vinyl. Another one to add to my collection.

Vow! Dit kon lopen en lopen... Voor zover ik kan herinneren aan, zijn dit de welomlijnde punten die ik in mijn verzameling van de Joy Division en New Order.

Al punten duidelijke (F) is de editieren van de Factory Records Ltd.

Het spijt me, dat mijn verzameling van de Joy Division zo pathetisch is...!!

Akkorrd.....

JOY DIVISION: Singles: Love Will Tear Us Apart 7" (F) Atmosphere (reissue 1988) 7" (F)

Albums: Unknown Pleasures CD (F) Closer CD (F) Closer CD (F) Closer 12" plaat (F) Substance CD (F) Substance 12" plaat (Nederlandse editie)

NEW ORDER: Singles: Ceremony 7" x 2 (F) Ceremony 12" Groen (F) Ceremony 12" Blauw/Wit (F) Everything's Gone Green 7" Rood (F) Everything's Gone Green 7" Zwart (F) Everything's Gone Green 7" Blauw (Nederlandse editie) Everything's Gone Green EP 12" (Benelux) Temptation 7" (F) Temptation 12" (F) Blue Monday 12" (F) Confusion 12" (F) Thieves Like Us 12" (F) Thieves Like Us 12" (Nederlandse editie) Murder 12" (Benelux) The Perfect Kiss 7" (Benelux - Bernard en Peter omslag) The Perfect Kiss 12" (F) SubCulture 7" (F) SubCulture 12" (F) Shellshock 7" (F) Shellshock 12" (F) State Of The Nation 7" (F) State Of The Nation 12" (F) The Peel Sessions 1982 12" Bizarre Love Triangle 7" (F) Bizarre Love Triangle 12" (F) True Faith 7" (F) True Faith 12" (F) True Faith Remix 12" (F) Touched By The Hand Of God 7" (F) Touched By The Hand Of God 12" (F) The Peel Sessions 1981 12" Blue Monday 1988 7" (F) Blue Monday 1988 12" (F) Fine Time 7" (F) Fine Time 12" (F) Fine Time Remix 12" (F) Round & Round 7" (F) Round & Round 12" (F) Round & Remix 12" (F) Round & Round CD5 (F) Run2 12" (F) Run2 7" DJ Promo (F) World In Motion 12" (F) Regret 12" Regret CD Ruined In A Day 12" Ruined In A Day CD1 World 12" World CD1 World CD2 Spooky CD1 Spooky CD2 True Faith 94 CD Nineteen 63 CD1 Nineteen 63 CD2 Crystal CD1 Crystal CD2 60 Miles An Hour CD1 Here To Stay CD1 Here To Stay CD2

Albums: Movement 12" plaat (F) Movement CD (F) Power Corruption and Lies 12" plaat (F) Power Corruption and Lies CD (F) Power Corruption and Lies cass (beperkte editie van de doos) (F) Power Corruption and Lies US cassette (Factus 12) Low Life 12" plaat (F) Low Life CD (F) Brotherhood 12" plaat (F) Brotherhood CD (F) Brotherhood CD (metaalachtig editie) (F) Brotherhood CD (metaalachtig editie) (F) Brotherhood cass (beperkte editie van de doos) (F) Substance 2x 12" plaat (F) Substance 2x CD (F) Substance 2x CD (F) Substance 2x CD (Rough Trade) Substance 2x cass (beperkte editie van de doos) (F) Technique 12" plaat (F) Technique cass (F) Technique CD (F) BBC Radio 1 Live 1987 12" plaat Republic 12" plaat Republic cass Republic CD The Best Of CD Get Ready CD Retro 5x CD

ELECTRONIC: Singles: Get The Message/Freewill 12" (F) Vivid CD1

Albums: Electronic 12" plaat (F) Electronic CD (F)

REVENGE: Singles: Pineapple Face/14K 7" (F) I'm Not Your Slave/Amsterdam 7" (F)

THE OTHER TWO: Singles: Tasty Fish 12" (F) Selfish 12" Selfish CD Innocence US 12" Superhighways CD

Albums: The Other Two and You CD Superhighways CD

MONACO: Singles: What Do You Want From Me? CD Sweet Lips CD1 Shine CD

Albums: Music For Pleasure CD Monaco CD

VEELSOORTIG: SubCulture (Record Mirror 1986 remix) The Trouble With Girls (Revenge)** Lucky Bag - Miami Edit (Electronic)** Bizarre Love Triangle - Stephen Hague Mix (New Order)** ** FAC 305 vrij cass van de Select Magazine Ninth Configuration (alternative edit) (Other Two)ªª ªª LIME LIZARD vrij cass 1993

VIDEO: Substance 1989 (F) NewOrderStory

Er zijn nog vele punten ik nog naar - zoals de beperkte de cassette editie van de doos, en de metaalachtig LP editie van "Brotherhood"... ;)

---M.v.d.K.

Two more addtions now - as of last Saturday.

Confusion 12" Factory origiinal Shellshock 12" Factory original

Both snapped up from R.R.R, Birmingham for 3 quid apiece.

:)

R.R.R = Reddingtons Rare Records, Digbeth - for those who don't know the area.

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Originally posted by Dave_Barrie Two more addtions now - as of last Saturday.Confusion 12" Factory origiinalShellshock 12" Factory originalBoth snapped up from R.R.R, Birmingham for 3 quid apiece.:)R.R.R = Reddingtons Rare Records, Digbeth - for those who don't know the area.

they used to be really pricey in there, if condition of those is good then sounds like they are much more reasonable (may go there if it gets seasonable)

Originally posted by hibster > Originally posted by Dave_Barrie> Two more addtions now - as of last Saturday.> > Confusion 12" Factory origiinal> Shellshock 12" Factory original> > Both snapped up from R.R.R, Birmingham for 3 quid apiece.> > :)> > R.R.R = Reddingtons Rare Records, Digbeth - for those who don't know the area.

they used to be really pricey in there, if condition of those is good then sounds like they are much more reasonable (may go there if it gets seasonable)

You're right about them being rather pricey! Last time I checked they had TECHNIQUE vinyl going for about £10 and the cassette edition of SUBSTANCE (the blue and red cases NOT the white box) being offered for £13 - the slip case outer wasn't even in tip top condition anyway ( a few tears on the corners). So I (foolishly?) had to pass on that one.

Anyhow - the two 12 inchers I got were originally priced at £4 each - they were just knocked down a bit for the special post-Xmas offers. I suppose I had to pick them up anyway I guess.

;)

Some impressive collections here - for the moment I will list the JOY DIVISION stuff here, I'll have to add the New Order part later on when I've had a proper look to check what I do and don't have.

Singles Transmission 12 inch, Transmission 7 inch Love Will Tear us Apart 12 inch and 7 inch Atmosphere 12 inch Atmosphere 7 inch and 12 inch (1988 issue) Love Will Tear Us Apart 12 inch (London reissue) The Peel Sessions 12 inch

Albums Unknown Pleasures CD (not Factory) and LP (original) Closer CD (Factory) and LP (Factory import) Still CD (not Factory) and LP (Factory import) Substance CD (reissue) and Factory LP Permanent CD Heart and Soul box set Live at Preston 1979 CD Les bains Douche CD Peel Sessions CD

Tapes Bootleg of JD peel sessions (pre official release in 1988) B-sides and demos (various)

Being a relative newcomer to New Order I must confess to my collection being nothing like as comprehensive as some of you guys..To date I have only a handful of singles and a couple of their albums, as yet I don't even have anything by Joy Division but I'm hoping to aquire some of their back catalogue...

This is my list so far - it isn't worthy, I'm sorry! :(

1. Blue Monday 1988 7" single
2. Bizzarre LoveTriangle 12" maxi single
3. Round And Round 7" single
4. Regret CD
5. World Price Of Love CD
6. True Faith 94 CD
7. Crystal (maxi single CD)
8. Substance 1987 CD album
9. The Best Of New Order CD album
10. Get Ready CD album

I guess that's kinda pitiful, isn't it?

I'll show you mine if you show me yours! Sorry about the formatting folks, pulled it from my Access database and couldn't be fagged messing around with it.

The double-ups are not actually double up's, they are different in one manner or another eg. different remix, gatefold etc. etc.

Included bootlegs towards the end cause I banged then into the computer about 15 years ago too (yes, they had computers 15 years ago!).

New Order Bizarre Love Triangle 12 inch New Order Bizarre Love Triangle 12 inch New Order Blue Monday 12 inch New Order Blue Monday 1988 12 inch New Order Blue Order 12 inch New Order Ceremony 12 inch New Order Ceremony 12 inch New Order Confusion 12 inch New Order Confusion 12 inch New Order Confusion Remix 12 inch New Order Everything's Gone Green 12 inch New Order Fine Time 12 inch New Order Fine Time 12 inch New Order Fine Time Remix 12 inch New Order Interview Picture Disc 12 inch New Order Interview Picture Disc Ltd Edn 12 inch New Order Murder 12 inch New Order Round & Remix 12 inch New Order Round & Round 12 inch New Order Round & Round 12 inch New Order Shellshock 12 inch New Order Shellshock 12 inch New Order State Of The Nation 12 inch New Order Sub-Culture 12 inch New Order Temptation 12 inch New Order The Peel Sessions - 01/06/82 12 inch New Order The Peel Sessions - 26/01/81 12 inch New Order The Perfect Kiss 12 inch New Order The Perfect Kiss 12 inch New Order Thieves Like Us 12 inch New Order Touched By The Hand Of God 12 inch New Order True Faith 12 inch New Order True Faith 12 inch New Order True Faith Remix 12 inch New Order World In Motion 12 inch New Order World In Motion Remix 12 inch New Order Bizarre Love Triangle 7 inch New Order Bizarre Love Triangle - Remix 7 inch New Order Blue Monday 7 inch New Order Blue Monday 1988 7 inch New Order Ceremony 7 inch New Order Fine Time 7 inch New Order Interview With Peter Hook 7 inch New Order Procession 7 inch New Order Round & Round 7 inch New Order Shellshock 7 inch New Order Shellshock 7 inch New Order State Of The Nation 7 inch New Order Sub-Culture 7 inch New Order Temptation 7 inch New Order The Perfect Kiss 7 inch New Order Touched By The Hand Of God 7 inch New Order True Faith 7 inch New Order Western Works Demo's - 7/80 7 inch New Order World In Motion 7 inch New Order Regret CASS New Order Substance CASSD New Order Blue Monday CASSS New Order Confusion CASSS New Order State Of The Nation CASSS New Order Bbc Radio 1 - Live In Concert CD New Order Brotherhood CD New Order Get Ready CD New Order Low-Life CD New Order Movement CD New Order New Order (The Best Of) CD New Order Power, Corruption & Lies CD New Order Power, Corruption & Lies CD New Order Republic CD New Order Technique CD New Order New Order (The Rest Of) CD2 New Order Substance CD2 New Order Round & Remix CD3 New Order Touched By The Hand Of God CD3 New Order Retro CD5 New Order 1981-1982 CDM New Order The Peel Sessions - 2/81 CDM New Order The Peel Sessions - 6/82 CDM New Order 1963 CDS New Order 60 Miles An Hour Tour EP Single CDS New Order Blue Monday 1988 CDS New Order Everything's Gone Green CDS New Order Fine Time CDS New Order Here To Stay CDS New Order Regret CDS New Order Round & Round CDS New Order Ruined In A Day CDS New Order Ruined In A Day - The Limited Edition CDS New Order Spooky CDS New Order Spooky - The Limited Edition CDS New Order Touched By The Hand Of God CDS New Order True Faith '94 CDS New Order Video 586 CDS New Order World (The Price Of Love) CDS New Order World (The Price Of Love) - Part 1 CDS New Order World (The Price Of Love) - Part 2 CDS New Order World In Motion CDS New Order World In Motion (2002 Remixes) CDS New Order Crystal DCS New Order 441 LP New Order Brotherhood LP New Order Low-Life LP New Order Low-Life LP New Order More Than Despair LP New Order Movement LP New Order Power, Corruption & Lies LP New Order Radio Order LP New Order Technique LP New Order Paradise LP2 New Order Substance LP2 New Order Hand Of God LPD New Order 1981-1982 LPM

Joy Division Atmosphere 12 inch Joy Division Transmission 12 inch Joy Division Atmosphere 12 inch Joy Division Love Will Tear Us Apart 12 inch Joy Division The Peel Sessions 12 inch Joy Division Interview With Ian Curtis 7 inch Joy Division Love Will Tear Us Apart 7 inch Joy Division Atmosphere 7 inch Joy Division Transmission 7 inch Joy Division Substance CD Joy Division The Peel Sessions CD Joy Division Unknown Pleasures CD Joy Division Closer CD Joy Division Still CD Joy Division Heart & Soul CD4 Joy Division Atmosphere CDS Joy Division Closer LP Joy Division Dante's Inferno LP Joy Division Atmosphere LP Joy Division A Restrospective 1977/1979 LP Joy Division Morituri Te Salutant LP Joy Division Unknown Pleasures LP Joy Division Still LP2 Joy Division Live In Paris LP2

Electronic Get The Message 12 inch Electronic Getting Away With It 12 inch Electronic Getting Away With It CASSS Electronic Get The Message CASSS Electronic Getting Away With It CASSS Electronic Feel Every Beat CASSS Electronic Electronic CD Electronic Raise The Pressure CD Electronic Twisted Tenderness CD Electronic Disappointed CDS Electronic Feel Every Beat CDS Electronic Disappointed CDS Electronic Feel Every Beat CDS Electronic Getting Away With It CDS Electronic Get The Message CDS Electronic Getting Away With It CDS Electronic Forbidden City CDS Electronic Late At Night CDS

Monaco Music For Pleasure CD Monaco Shine (Someone Who Needs Me) CDS Monaco Sweet Lips - Part 2 CDS

The Other Two The Other Two & You CD

New Order Bootlegs Date Description Length 19/06/80 Haystack Demo - backing Kevin Hewick (cut) 5 00/07/80 Western Works Demo, Sheffield, U.K. 16 00/07/80 Dreams Never End 7' (W/W Demo) + W/W Interview 16/02/81 21 05/09/80 Scamps, Blackpool 27 30/09/80 Underground, Boston, U.S.A 45 25/10/80 The Squat, Manchester, England 30 13/12/80 Utopia/Hal 4, Rotterdam, Holland 42 02/01/81 Porterhouse, Retford 40 03/01/81 Tatton Community Centre, Chorley 35 04/01/81 The Fan Club (Branningan's), Leeds 35 26/01/81 1st John Peel Session 17 06/02/81 Comanche Student Union, Manchester 35 07/02/81 Roadmenders, Northampton 35 07/02/81 Roadmenders, Northampton soundcheck 10 09/02/81 Heaven Ultradisco, London 45 09/02/81 Heaven Ultradisco, London soundcheck 25 16/02/81 BBC 'Walters Weekly' Peter Hook interview 5 27/03/81 Trinity Hall, Bristol 40 27/03/81 Trinity Hall, Bristol soundcheck 10 08/04/81 Rock City, Nottingham 40 23/04/81 Granada Studios 'Celebration' outtakes 25 06/05/81 Forum Ballroom, Kentish Town, London 10 08/05/81 Reading University soundcheck 11 15/05/81 L'Ancienne, Brussels, Belgium (Factory Video) 10 16/05/81 Markthalle, Hamburg 60 17/05/81 Saltargeret, Copenhagen, Denmark 45 19/05/81 Roxy, Stockholm, Sweden 50 22/05/81 Lobo Disco, Gothenburg, Sweden 45 27/05/81 SO36 Club, Berlin, West Germany 54 20/06/81 Glastonbury Fayre Festival 45 23/09/81 Phoenix Hall, Sheffield Polytechnic 40 06/11/81 Perkins' Palace, Pasadena, California 45 07/11/81 Cinema Club, Sanfrancisco 45 15/11/81 Civic Hall, Toronto, U.S.A 50 17/11/81 The Channel, Boston, U.S.A 45 19/11/81 Ukranian National Home, New York ('Taras Schevchenko') 47 04/01/82 Hammersmith Riverside Studio Demo's 25 22/01/82 North London Polytechnic 45 23/01/82 Birmingham Imperial Cinema 45 05/03/82 Dublin RTE F.M. interview 15 09/03/82 Tiffanys, Leeds 45 09/04/82 Meervaart, Amsterdam, Holland 45 15/04/82 L'Ancienne, Brussels, Belgium 60 17/04/82 Le Palace, Paris, France 45 00/05/82 2nd John Peel Session 21 21/05/82 Prime 586, Touch 1 Tapezine 20 24/05/82 Pennies, Norwich 45 16/06/82 The Tenax, Florence, Italy 45 17/06/82 Piper Club, Rome, Itlay 45 21/06/82 Palasport, Bologna, Italy 57 22/06/82 Rollingstone, Milan, Italy 45 27/11/82 Seaview Ballroom, Melbourne, Australia 45 03/12/82 Mainstreet Caberet, Auckland, New Zealand 64 06/12/82 Campus Radio interview, Wellington, New Zealand 20 08/12/82 Victoria University, Wellington, New Zealand 75 24/12/82 Hacienda Christmas Flexi 7 26/01/83 Hacienda Club, Manchester, England 45 01/02/83 Brixton Acadamy, London 64 03/02/83 BBC Radio Lancashire interview 10 12/03/83 Tolworth Recreation Centre, Kingston, U.K. 54 12/03/83 BBC Radio 1 'Rock On' interview (cut) 5 01/04/83 'The Switch' Channel 4, U.K. Television 12 04/04/83 Rosehill, Kilkenny, Ireland 45 12/04/83 Assembly Rooms, Edinburgh soundcheck 10 14/04/83 Tiffanys, Glasgow 25 09/05/83 Tower Ballroom, Birmingham 50 27/05/83 Veronicas Countdown Dutch T.V. 'Blue Monday' 7 31/05/83 VOO Dutch F.M. session 7 17/06/83 Club 688, Atlanta, Georgia, U.S.A 60 19/06/83 Texas Nightlife, Austin, U.S.A 65 23/06/83 The Fantasy Fullerton, California 45 02/07/83 St. Andrews Hall, Detroit, Michigan, U.S.A 70 05/07/83 The Spectrum, Montreal, Canada 80 07/07/83 Paradise Garage, New York 54 08/07/83 Washington D.C., U.S.A 50 09/07/83 City Gardens, Trenton, New Jersey, U.S.A 25 20/07/83 Hacienda Club, Manchester, England 80 25/07/83 Radio 1 (mw) Platform 9 Critique 5 00/12/83 Smash Hits Christmas Message 1 01/12/83 The Acadamy, Brixton, London 55 02/12/83 Town Hall, Bournemouth s/c ('Leave Me Alone') 5 02/12/83 Bournemouth Town Hall soundcheck ('Leave Me Alone') 5 03/12/83 'Thieves Like Us' 'DJ' TVS South 4 00/00/84 Thieves Like Us 7' 10 00/00/84 Confusion 7' (Confusion demo + Confusion live 17/06/83) 10 00/00/84 7' interview picture disc #0758 limited edition 12 00/00/84 12' interview picture disc #0542 limited edition 10 00/02/84 Thieves Like Us / Lonesome Tonight Demo's 20 19/03/84 Ceasers Palace, Bradford, U.K. 70 31/03/84 Burgerhaus, Frankfurt, West Germany 60 02/04/84 Volkhaus, Zurich, Switzerland 60 02/04/84 Zurich Radio interview 10 08/04/84 Berlin Metropol 50 15/04/84 The Galactica, Luxemburg, West Germany 75 03/05/84 'Top Of The Pops' BBC T.V 6 14/05/84 Royal Festival Hall, London 80 17/05/84 Paradiso Club, Amsterdam, Holland 60 24/05/84 'Pop Electron' (Thieves Like Us live + interview) 10 00/06/84 Piccadilly Radio interview 45 07/06/84 Mayfair Suite, Southampton 65 01/07/84 Roskilde Festival 85 01/07/84 Rosekilde Festival interview with Peter Hook 5 19/08/84 Gloucester Leisure Centre ( soundcheck ) 10 21/08/84 'Play at Home in a Day; U.K. T.V. Documentary 15 25/08/84 'Saturday Live' session 35 27/08/84 Heaven Ultradisco, London, England 55 22/09/84 Golddiggers, Chippenham 10 00/00/85 'Lets Go' Studio vocal (Low-Life sessions) 5 00/00/85 12' picture disc interview limited edition 30 00/00/85 Song written by Steven Morris and Gillian Gilbert 5 28/01/85 Michael Sobell Sports Centre, Finsburg Park, England 75 06/02/85 Radio Clyde interview 10 17/02/85 Sunrise, Instrumental Mix 5 09/04/85 Tower Ballroom, Birmingham soundcheck 15 00/05/85 The Perfrect Kiss, Qwest Mixes 10 01/05/85 Kosei Nenkin Kaikan Hall ,Tokyo, Japan 40 02/05/85 Kosei Nenkin Kaikan Hall, Tokyo, Japan 80 17/05/85 Melbourne Powerhouse 70 20/05/85 East Leagues Club, Brisbane, Australia (The Him) 5 20/05/85 East Leagues Club, Brisbane, Australia 70 22/05/85 Triple M 89 fm, Auckalnd interview with Peter Hook 5 23/05/85 Logan Campbell Centre, Auckland, New Zealand 82 20/07/85 W.O.M.A.D Festival, Mersea Island, Essex 80 01/08/85 Steve Morris interview, New York 10 01/08/85 Advertisments and Promotions for Felt Forum gig 2 04/08/85 Toronto Cable T.V. interview 10 04/08/85 International Centre, Toronto, U.S.A 75 14/08/85 City Colliseum, Austin, Texas 80 22/08/85 Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, U.S.A 45 26/10/85 Octagon Hall, Sheffield University 65 26/10/85 Octagon Hall, Sheffield University soundcheck 25 03/11/85 Love Kills Demo's 15 08/11/85 Hemel Hempstead Pavilion 80 08/11/85 Hemel Hempstead Pavailion soundcheck 10 03/12/85 'Whistle Test' T.V. 10 06/12/85 Polytechnic of Central London 45 07/12/85 Slough Fulcrum Centre 5 13/12/85 As It Is, When It Was Demo 5 17/12/85 Manhatten Club, Leuven (Music Box - 'Let's Go') 5 17/12/85 Manhatten Club, Leuven, Belgium 55 00/00/86 Funky Alternatives (compliation album) - Angel Dust Remix 5 27/01/86 'Channel One' 10 08/02/86 Royal Court Theatre, Liverpool 45 08/02/86 Royal Court Theatre, Liverpool (soundcheck) 10 00/03/86 'Sub-Culture' Remix for 'Record Mirror' 7 01/03/86 Spectrum Arena, Warrinton soundcheck 25 01/03/86 Spectrum Arena, Warrington 65 16/03/86 Piccadilly Radio interview 80 21/03/86 Tube T.V. 10 28/03/86 Brighton Centre 75 17/04/86 Megastudio Mix 10 10/06/86 Royal Albert Hall, London 75 14/06/86 City Hall, Sheffield 50 21/06/86 Loughborough University Union interview with Peter Hook 15 19/07/86 G-MEX Centre, Manchester, England 60 00/09/86 Theme (Homage ala MGM) TW1 643 5 02/10/86 Birmingham Tower Ballroom 70 09/10/86 Re-order Mix 10 26/10/86 M.T.V 'XXX-Ray' Feature 5 29/10/86 Triple M 89 FM, Auckland interview with Peter Hook + music 30 31/10/86 California Radio interview 5 12/12/86 WRAS Atlanta interview 10 00/00/87 Blue Monday - '87 Special Mix 10 00/00/87 'Something Wild' soundtrack ('Temptation') 5 00/00/87 Bizarre Love Triangle / Angel Dust mix 10 04/02/87 The Galaxy, Auckland, New Zealand (soundcheck) 20 04/02/87 The Galaxy, Auckland, New Zealand 75 04/02/87 Advertisments and Promotions for Auckland gig 1 07/02/87 'Les Infants Du Rock' French ('Paradise' + 'B.L.T') live 15 02/04/87 The Coronet, Woolwich, London 80 04/04/87 The Acadamy, Brixton 10 05/04/87 RWP interview with Steve & Hooky + Bizarre Love Triangle 10 02/06/87 Masters of the Ceremony Mix 40 06/06/87 Finsburg Park, England 55 08/06/87 The Roxy, Sheffield 80 09/06/87 Barrowlands, Glasgow 80 19/06/87 Glastonbury Festival 75 06/08/87 Top of the Pops ('True Faith' live) 5 09/08/87 Radio with Pictures ('Pumped Full of Drugs' video) 10 11/08/87 The Roxy ('True Faith') 5 12/09/87 Irvine Medows Ampitheatre, California, U.S.A 90 19/09/87 Greek Theatre, Berkeley, U.S.A 75 24/09/87 Ansaphone, Bruno Brooks 2 19/11/87 True Faith 7' D.J. copy (broadcast 19/11/87) 5 00/12/87 Confusion Re-dub (T.B.T.H.O.G U.K. C/D B-side) 5 10/12/87 Wembly Arena 80 00/00/88 'Married to the Mob' s/t ('Bizarre Love Triangle' remix) 5 00/00/88 'Salvation!' soundtrack ('Touched by the Hand of God' remix) 10 27/02/88 'Substance' part 1 'I Remember When We Were Young' 60 05/03/88 'Substance' part 2 'Now That We've Grown Up Together' 60 14/03/88 Radio with Pictures ('Touched by the Hand of God' video ) 5 20/03/88 A.P.B. Interview 20 21/05/88 Radio City 194 Megamix 10 17/11/88 BB1 'Rapido' Feature 5 17/12/88 G-MEX Centre, Manchester 75 21/02/89 C4 t.v. 'Big World Cafe', Brixton Academy 15 16/03/89 'Top of the Pops' BBC t.v 5 20/03/89 Snub t.v. interview + music 15 26/03/89 NEC, Birmingham, England 80

Joy Division Bootlegs Date Description Length 18/07/77 Warsaw Demo's 12 01/11/77 The Electric Circus 5 00/12/77 An Ideal for Living E.P. 12 01/05/78 Unreleased R.C.A 11 song L.P. 35 20/09/78 'So it Goes' Granada T.V. (Shadowplay) 5 11/10/78 A Factory Sample 3 31/01/79 1st John Peel Session 15 14/03/79 Bowdon Vale Youth Club, England 40 00/04/79 Earcom 2: Contradiction (From Safety to Where/Autosuggestion) 7 04/06/79 Piccadilly Radio Session 20 13/06/79 Russel Club, Manchester, England 42 00/07/79 Transmission Session 15 09/07/79 Interview 5 11/08/79 Eric's, Liverpool 15 31/08/79 Electric Ballroom, London 50 15/09/79 'Something Else', BBC 2 T.V., England 10 20/09/79 BBC Radio 1, 'Rock On' interview 6 22/09/79 Nashville Club, London 40 00/10/79 Yates Wine Lodge, Liverpool interview 10 26/10/79 Electric Ballroom, London 47 02/11/79 Winter Gardens, Bornemouth 40 26/11/79 2nd John Peel Session 16 18/12/79 Les Baines Douches Club Paris (French radio simulcast) 20 18/12/79 Les Baines Douches Club, Paris, France 85 00/00/80 Remix's Unknown Pleasures Session 10 00/01/80 Gutterdammerung', West German T.V. 10 11/01/80 Paradiso Club, Amsterdam 70 15/01/80 Cologne Basement, West Germany 68 17/01/80 Plan K, Brussels, Belgium 45 18/01/80 Effnaar, Eindhoven, Netherlands 47 08/02/80 London University 40 20/02/80 Town Hall, High Wycombe, U.K. 40 28/02/80 The Warehouse, Preston 45 29/02/80 Lyceum, London 39 00/03/80 Factory Flexi-Disc 12 00/04/80 Radio Blackburn interview with Ian 5 02/04/80 Moonlight Club, London 45 02/04/80 Moonlight Club, London 40 03/04/80 Moonlight Club, London 35 19/04/80 Ajanta Theatre, Derby 24 24/04/80 Fun Factory T.V. (Love Will Tear Us Apart) 5 02/05/80 Birmingham University (full version of 'Ceremony') 5 18/05/86 Campus Radio Sun. Surprise (gigs,ints,demos,impts,boots,etc) 120

Originally posted by hibster In the record collector article it says that although EGG on fbn8cd was factory benelux it WAS an australian release!

Think you'll find it's a printing error.

Austria, Australia, whatever. Practically the same country.

;)

Originally posted by depthcharge > Originally posted by hibster> In the record collector article it says that although EGG on fbn8cd was factory benelux it WAS an australian release!

Think you'll find it's a printing error.

Austria, Australia, whatever. Practically the same country.

;)

just being lazy - only have to dig it out to check anyway! (plus it probably does say austria - have put article back upstairs with the rest of the stuff now)

Originally posted by depthcharge > Originally posted by hibster> In the record collector article it says that although EGG on fbn8cd was factory benelux it WAS an australian release!

Think you'll find it's a printing error.

Austria, Australia, whatever. Practically the same country.

;)

Well it's on the SAME bloody planet, isn't it?????

you think?

Has no-one noticed the item i have in my collection that not a single other person has?

Originally posted by Major Tarantino Has no-one noticed the item i have in my collection that not a single other person has?

What, Mr Hook

in a cupboard too.

I just can't believe i am the only one to have the Komakino flexi listed in here. Will wait for Rocket or Murv to post their collection...

But i think Shug has it...

i have it too, but not listing jd stuff, much more into the order rilly...

Originally posted by Be Music I just can't believe i am the only one to have the Komakino flexi listed in here. Will wait for Rocket or Murv to post their collection...

Got it!Very easy to obtain isn't it these days?:D

Originally posted by JE SUIS EGG > Originally posted by depthcharge> > > > Originally posted by hibster> > In the record collector article it says that although EGG on fbn8cd was factory benelux it WAS an australian release!>

Think you'll find it's a printing error.

Austria, Australia, whatever. Practically the same country.

;)

Well it's on the SAME bloody planet, isn't it?????

Unlike me!:DPLANET ROCKET Rocket Mick

Originally posted by murv Some of the rarer stuff I have are:P.C.L. coloured vinyl RTD11 with promo sheet

Murv, or anyone else for that matter, do you have a scan of the mentioned promo sheet?

My list, lacking updating, is located at http://www.geocities.com/tivarsson/neworder.html

/TLV

Just to mention, I actually came across a used 12-inch vinyl of a film soundtrack called >Salvation!< which featured Touched By TheHand Of God as well as three other New Order tracks - >Sputnik<, >Skullcrusher < and >Salvation Theme< in downtown Boston the other week.

As I haven't been able to track down "Touched" as a single, except on the Best Of collection, does anybody recommend - as a complete newcomer to the band - I should get hold of this album - what are these other tracks like? Anybody?

Originally posted by Joseph Valkeirie Just to mention, I actually came across a used 12-inch vinyl of a film soundtrack called >Salvation!< which featured Touched By TheHand Of God as well as three other New Order tracks - >Sputnik<, >Skullcrusher < and >Salvation Theme< in downtown Boston the other week.As I haven't been able to track down "Touched" as a single, except on the Best Of collection, does anybody recommend - as a complete newcomer to the band - I should get hold of this album - what are these other tracks like? Anybody?

Buy Technique, then Low-Life, then Substance

Originally posted by Joseph Valkeirie Just to mention, I actually came across a used 12-inch vinyl of a film soundtrack called >Salvation!< which featured Touched By TheHand Of God as well as three other New Order tracks - >Sputnik<, >Skullcrusher < and >Salvation Theme< in downtown Boston the other week.As I haven't been able to track down "Touched" as a single, except on the Best Of collection, does anybody recommend - as a complete newcomer to the band - I should get hold of this album - what are these other tracks like? Anybody?

I personally would recommend the CD version of this SALVATION soundtrack as it comes with additional tracks like a really long Arthur Baker mix of TBTHOG which doesnt appear anywhere else, it's different from the INTERNATIONAL one...and it sounds bloody great!!

I have a second copy of the CD, email me ....perhaps we can come to some kind of arrangement.....

wow some pretty impressive collections posted up ere,must admit im nowhere near as obbsesive as some in ere but seeing ive been a fan from day one almost ill just post some of the stuff that ive had or still got that none of you have yet posted. some of you may have em and forggotten or it may point some completists to more to collect.

JOY DIVISION.

1. still lp ,in hessian cover
2. still lp ,white and blue cover (import)
3. transmission 12" black sleeve ext version(novelty)
4. atmosphere/dead souls sordide sentimental with mag
5. komakino/as you said flexi
6. earcom 2 jd/contributions inc ,from saftey to where and autosuggestion NEW ORDER.
7. video 586 from touch tape magazine. this included 2 early versions of 586 each nearly 20mins long,and light years ahead of its time,exerpts of this track appear on the end of taras shevenko i think. 2.sub-culture(melody maker freebie)best version of subculture imo 7" bloody rare now.
8. touched by hand of god 3" cd not too rare but interesting to see only a few have it.
9. ode to joy/rocking carrol flexi (utter shite) i even have doubts if its really them or a factory take piss lol.

ill have a pop round in my attic in nxt few weeks coz im moving house soon so ill bet i find stuff that even ive forgotten i had and post em up.

hope them few lead some of u to jd/no nirvana hehe.

ooops just a quick un. i seem to remember that new order released an ep very early on,before movement came out. tracks were 1. dreams never end 2. truth 3.senses 4. icb. i remeber this being available through the NME and melody maker classifieds at the back of the mags where record shops and importers would advertise. i may be wrong but i think it was a sordid sentimental release also,but i never got my hands on it cos everytime i rang it had sold out or they didnt know if or when ect.

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by Be Music> I just can't believe i am the only one to have the Komakino flexi listed in here. Will wait for Rocket or Murv to post their collection...

Got it!Very easy to obtain isn't it these days?:D

I don't know for your side of the Atlantic but here in Montreal it's impossible to find these days. Got mine from a used record shop 15 years ago...:)

Here's the New Order section of my current aquisitions then.

Singles Ceremony 12" Green sleeve Everything's Gone Green 12" Benelux Temptation 12" Blue Monday 12" Blue Monday 88 remix 12" Confusion 12" Thieves Like Us 12" Murder 12" Perfect Kiss 12" Shell shock 12" & 7" Bizarre Love Triangle 12" True Faith 12" Touched by the Hand of God 12" Fine Time 12" Round & round 12" Regret CD 12" & 7" World CD1 & 12" Ruined in a Day CD1 1963 Limited box CD Crystal CD x 2 60 miles an Hour CD x 2 Here to Stay CD x 2

Albums Movement CD Power Corruption and Lies CD & original vinyl Low Life CD and import vinyl Brotherhood CD and original vinyl Substance CD Technique CD and original vinyl Republic CD The Best of New Order CD Get Ready CD The Peel sessions CD

Not that impressive, but then I just don't have time and patience to go searching every corner looking for everything I haven't got! :D

Originally posted by mike powell ooops just a quick un.i seem to remember that new order released an ep very early on,before movement came out.tracks were 1. dreams never end 2. truth 3.senses 4. icb.i remeber this being available through the NME and melody maker classifieds at the back of the mags where record shops and importers would advertise.i may be wrong but i think it was a sordid sentimental release also,but i never got my hands on it cos everytime i rang it had sold out or they didnt know if or when ect.

Yeah..I have that EP...but frankly it looks very crappy.....black & white photo cover with plain label vinyl....

Originally posted by mike powell wow some pretty impressive collections posted up ere,must admit im nowhere near as obbsesive as some in ere but seeing ive been a fan from day one almost ill just post some of the stuff that ive had or still got that none of you have yet posted.some of you may have em and forggotten or it may point some completists to more to collect.JOY DIVISION.1. still lp ,in hessian cover2. still lp ,white and blue cover (import)3. transmission 12" black sleeve ext version(novelty)4. atmosphere/dead souls sordide sentimental with mag5. komakino/as you said flexi6. earcom 2 jd/contributions inc ,from saftey to where and autosuggestionNEW ORDER.1. video 586 from touch tape magazine.this included 2 early versions of 586 each nearly 20mins long,and light years ahead of its time,exerpts of this track appear on the end of taras shevenko i think.2.sub-culture(melody maker freebie)best version of subculture imo 7" bloody rare now.3. touched by hand of god 3" cd not too rare but interesting to see only a few have it.5. ode to joy/rocking carrol flexi (utter shite) i even have doubts if its really them or a factory take piss lol.ill have a pop round in my attic in nxt few weeks coz im moving house soon so ill bet i find stuff that even ive forgotten i had and post em up.hope them few lead some of u to jd/no nirvana hehe.

well i listed items 1 & 2 of the new order section in mine!

Okay... here goes (for what it's worth)

Joy Division:

Permanent (CD) Love Will Tear Us Apart-95 (CD single & 12”) Substance (CD & cassette) Atmosphere (CD Single) Still (CD) Unknown Pleasures (CD) Closer (CD)

New Order

Procession/Everything’s Gone Green (7” – yellow) Temptation (12”) Blue Monday (12”) Confusion (12”) Murder (12”) The Perfect Kiss (12”) Subculture (12") Shellshock (12") Bizarre Love Triangle (12”, US CD Single) True Faith (12”, Remix 12”, CDVideo) Touched By The Hand Of God (CD single, 12” & 7”) Blue Monday 88 (CD single & 12”) Fine Time (CD Single, 12”, Remix 12”) Round & Round (CD Single, Round & Remix 3” CD Single) Run 2 (UK 12") World In Motion (12”, CD Single, Remix 12”, 2002 CD single) Peel Sessions 81 (CD) Peel Sessions 82 (CD) Regret (Cassette, 12”, CD single) Regret – Weatherall Mixes (Promo French CD single) Ruined in a Day (Both UK CD Singles, 12”, Cassette, K-Klass Radio Edit Promo CD single) World (Both UK CD singles, US CD Maxi-single, 12”, Cassette, Euro CD Remix single) Spooky (Both UK CD Singles, 12”, Cassette) True Faith 94 (12”, CD single, Cassette) Nineteen63 (UK CD Single, UK Digipak CD single, Cassette, 12") Blue Monday-95 (German CD single, 12”, UK CD single) Crystal (US CD single, both UK CD singles, Japanese CD, UK DVD Single) 60 Miles An Hour (UK DVD Single, both UK CD singles) Here To Stay (both UK CD Singles, UK DVD single) Confusion 2002 (UK CD Single) Video 586 (CD & 12”) Confusion (Pump Panel Remixes CD Single) Everything’s Gone Green (Advent Remixes CD Single)

Movement (Original Factory CD) Power, Corruption & Lies (Original Factory CD) Brotherhood (Original Factory CD) Low-Life (Qwest CD in long box) Substance 1987 (Original Factory CD) Technique (Factory Benelux CD + London re-issue CD) BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert (Original cover UK CD) Republic (CD) (the best of) NewOrder (CD) (the rest of) NewOrder (Limited 2xCD) GetReady (CD) Retro (UK Limited Boxset)

Electronic Ecstacy (bootleg) Live at the Apollo 1998 (bootleg)

Fac 305 – The Factory Tape (Select cassette) Wasted – the best of VOLUME (CD) Salvation Soundtrack (CD) 24 Hour Party People (CD) The Beach (CD) The Beautiful Game (CD) Palatine (4 CD boxset + video) And Here Is The Young Man (Martin Hannett compilation) (CD)

Videos & misc:

(The Best Of New Order) (They’re afraid of what they see)(VHS) PFD (VHS) Taras Shevchenko (VHS) Substance 1989 (VHS) NewOrderStory (VHS) Academy (2nd Cover) (VHS) 316 (DVD) 511 (DVD) 24 Hour Party People (DVD) The best of New Order - slide puzzle NME Technique sticker

ELECTRONIC:

Electronic (Factory CD & Parlophone re-issue CD) Raise The Pressure (CD) Twisted Tenderness (CD) Getting Away With It (12”, Remix 12”, CD) Getting Away With It (US 7 trk CD maxi single) Get The Message (12”, DNA Remix 12”, CD Single, DNA Remix Euro CD single, US 12”) Feel Every Beat (12”, CD Single, 7”, US CD single) Disappointed (12”, CD Single, 7”) Forbidden City (CD single) For You (CD1 & CD2) Second Nature (CD1 & CD2) Vivid (CD1 & CD2) Late At Night (1 trk promo CD) Prodigal Son (10”) Make it Happen (10”)

REVENGE:

One True Passion (Vinyl & CD – I like the Suze Randall snaps, okay? That's my excuse) Pineapple Face (US CD Single) Gun World Porn (CD single)

MONACO:

Music For Pleasure (CD) Monaco (Promo CD) What Do You Want From Me (CD single) Sweet Lips (CD1 & CD2) Shine (CD single) I've Got A Feeling (CD single)

THE OTHER TWO:

The Other Two And You (CD reflective cover) Superhighways (CD) Tasty Fish (CD single) Selfish (CD single & 12”) Superhighways (CD single) You Can Fly (Promo 12”)

SUB SUB (with BERNARD SUMNER) This Time I’m Not Wrong (CD single)

ELECTROSET How Does It Feel? (CD single)

.. and I think that's about it. Christ, how much cash have I spent on them?

Here's my rather tame collection (comparing it to you freaks)

JOY DIVISION

Had all the albums, gave them away after buying the Heart and Soul box set.

Live Les Bains Douches (CD) Preston (CD) Warsaw (CD-R) The Complete BBC Recordings (CD)

NEW ORDER:

Movement (Mp3 files) PLC (CD) Low-Life (CD) Brotherhood (CD) Substance (CD & tape) Technique (CD) Republic (CD) The Best Of (CD) The Rest Of (CD) Blue Monday - 95 Single (CD) BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert (CD) Get Ready (CD) Electronic Ecstacy (CD-R) Perfect Kiss 12' Various MP3's - live shows, western works demo etc...

ELECTRONIC:

Electronic (CD) Raise The Pressure (CD) Twisted Tenderness (CD) Various MP3's - mainly B sides

MONACO:

Music For Pleasure (CD)

OTHER:

The New Order Story Deborah Curtis - Touching From A Distance

Please note that when I say freaks I say it with nothing but love

hello! i'm a newbie, so i thought this is a nice way of introducing myself. my collection is nowhere near as complete as some i've seen! :)

Joy Division: unknown pleasures (cs) unknown pleasures (cd) closer (cd) still (cs) still (cd) substance (cd) peel sessions ep (cs 1st session with "letters" sleeve) peel sessions (cd original version with "tunnel" photo) permanent (cd) warsaw (cd) heart and soul preston (cd) les baines douches (cd)

New Order: movement (cd) 1981-1982 ep (cd) power corruption and lies (cd original without blue monday and the beach) low life (cd) brotherhood (cd) substance (cd) substance (cs) salvation! (cs) blue monday 88 (cd) technique (cd) peel sessions (cd original version with "blue shadow with mic stand" photo) bbc radio one live (cd original version with "snapshots" cover) republic (cd) regret (us cassingle) world (us maxi cd) spooky (us maxi cd) the best of (uk cd) the best of (us cd) the rest of (ltd. with blue monday album cd) blue monday 95 (blauer) blue monday 95 (montag) video 586 (cd) get ready (cd) crystal (us maxi cd) 60 miles an hour (australian tour cd) here to stay (cd 1) retro (with bonus disc)

Electronic: Electronic Raise the Pressure Twisted Tenderness (uk cd) Twisted Tenderness (us ltd cd with bonus remis cd in slipcase)

The Other Two: the other two and you (cs) the other two and you (cd)

Book: Touching From a Distance

handful of live bootlegs

for people who have the original recording of "ceremony," i'm dying to know what it sounds like! can someone compare it with the re-recorded version? i think the original should've been in Retro, like "Temptation" and "Confusion." cheers! :)

Originally posted by bong801 hello! i'm a newbie, so i thought this is a nice way of introducing myself. my collection is nowhere near as complete as some i've seen! :)Joy Division:unknown pleasures (cs)unknown pleasures (cd)closer (cd)still (cs)still (cd)substance (cd)peel sessions ep (cs 1st session with "letters" sleeve)peel sessions (cd original version with "tunnel" photo)permanent (cd)warsaw (cd)heart and soul preston (cd)les baines douches (cd)New Order:movement (cd)1981-1982 ep (cd)power corruption and lies (cd original without blue monday and the beach)low life (cd)brotherhood (cd)substance (cd)substance (cs)salvation! (cs)blue monday 88 (cd)technique (cd)peel sessions (cd original version with "blue shadow with mic stand" photo)bbc radio one live (cd original version with "snapshots" cover)republic (cd)regret (us cassingle)world (us maxi cd)spooky (us maxi cd)the best of (uk cd)the best of (us cd)the rest of (ltd. with blue monday album cd)blue monday 95 (blauer)blue monday 95 (montag)video 586 (cd)get ready (cd)crystal (us maxi cd)60 miles an hour (australian tour cd)here to stay (cd 1)retro (with bonus disc)Electronic:ElectronicRaise the PressureTwisted Tenderness (uk cd)Twisted Tenderness (us ltd cd with bonus remis cd in slipcase)The Other Two:the other two and you (cs)the other two and you (cd)Book:Touching From a Distancehandful of live bootlegsfor people who have the original recording of "ceremony," i'm dying to know what it sounds like! can someone compare it with the re-recorded version? i think the original should've been in Retro, like "Temptation" and "Confusion." cheers! :)

I prefer the original version which I have on 12" vinyl. Bass sounds different - can't describe it - less "acoustic". Guitar sounds different too.

I started collecting New Order in 1984 and was initially trying to obtain every 7" and 12" release by them. Since then, I've tried to obtain every UK 7" (I'm missing a couple) and cover every b-side, and every relevant mix available on CD. If the mix isn't available on CD, I would get it on vinyl.

As for the original 12" version of Ceremony, I don't think it is that radically different but it would be nice to have on CD someday.

NEW ORDER

ALBUMS Movement - CD (original Factory issue) Power Corruption & Lies - CD (original Factory issue w/sleeve) Low-Life - CD (Factory issue) Brotherhood - CD (metallic Factory issue) Substance - 2xCD (US) Technique - CD (US) BBC Radio One Live 1987 - CD (Windsong) Republic - CD (US) The Best Of - CD (UK & US issues) The Rest Of - 2xCD (UK) The Peel Sessions - CD (Strange Fruit) Get Ready - CD (US)

EPs 1981-1982 - CD (Canadian)

SINGLES Ceremony - 7", 12" (green) and 12"(re-recorded) (Factory) Procession/Everything's Gone Green - 7" (Yellow) (Factory) Everything's Gone Green/Mesh/C&W EP - 12" & CD (Factory Benelux) Tempation - 7" (Factory) Blue Monday 12" (US) Confusion - 12" (Factory) Thieves Like Us - 12" (Factory) Murder - 12" (Factory Benelux) The Perfect Kiss - 12" (US) The Perfect Kiss - 7" (Factory - black die-cut sleeve) The Perfect Kiss - 7" (US - picture sleeve) SubCulture - 7" (Factory) & 12" (US) Shellshock - 7" & 12" (Factory) State Of The Nation - 7" & 12" (Factory) Bizarre Love Triangle - 7" (Factory) 12" & CD (US) True Faith - 7" (Factory & US) & 12" (US) True Faith - CD (US promo) True Faith - 12" Remix (Australia with Paradise Remix) Touched By The Hand Of God - 7" & CD (Factory) Blue Monday 1988 - 7" & CD (Factory) Fine Time - 7" & CD (Factory) Round and Round - 7", CD3 & CD5 (Factory) 12" (US) Run2/MTO EP - 12" (Factory) World In Motion - 12" (US) CD (Canadian) Confusion 1990 - 12" (US) Regret - 7", 12" (UK) CD (US) Ruined In A Day - CD1 (UK) Ruined In A Day - 12" (US promo) Ruined In A Day - US promo set of two one-sided 12" acetates World - CD1 & CD2 (UK) CD (US) Spooky - CD1 & CD2 (UK) CD (US) Spooky - US promo set of two one-sided 12" acetates True Faith 94 - CD (UK) Nineteen 63 - 12", CD1 & CD2 (white box) (UK) Blue Monday 95 - CD (blauer) (UK) Everything's Gone Green (Advent Mixes) - CD (UK) Video 5-8-6 - 12" & CD (UK) Crystal - 2x12", CD & DVD (US) Someone Like You - 2x12" (US promo) 60 Miles An Hour - CD1, CD2, DVD (UK) Here To Stay - CD (Australian) World In Motion 2002 - CD (UK)

VIDEOS New Order Story (Canadian VHS) Best of (Japanese laserdisc)

Originally posted by Matthew Smyth

I prefer the original version which I have on 12" vinyl. Bass sounds different - can't describe it - less "acoustic". Guitar sounds different too.

I thought it sounds a little bit slower...or is it just my turntable?..... Yeah, the bass is more prominent...almost 'woofy'...

Originally posted by bong801 for people who have the original recording of "ceremony," i'm dying to know what it sounds like! can someone compare it with the re-recorded version? i think the original should've been in Retro, like "Temptation" and "Confusion." cheers! :)

It's been widely available on the web for months now. Just have a look at the other recent threads, and I'm sure you'll find a link.

Joy Division: Unknown Pleasures CD Closer CD Still CD Still 2CD (Japan) Substance CD (US) Peel Sessions CD (red) Permenant CD Warsaw CD (grey) Heart and Soul 4CD boxset Preston 28 Feb. 1980 CD The Complete BBC Recordings CD Les Bains Douches 18 Dec. 1979 CD Here Are The Young Men VHS (US) FAC. 207 VHS (bootleg)

New Order: Movement CD Everything's Gone Green CDS 1981-FEP 313-1982 CDS Power, Corruption & Lies CD (US) Low-Life CD (US) Brotherhood CD (UK) Substance 2CD Substance 2CAS Salvation! Soundtrack CD (tv cover) Techinque CD Peel Sessions (blue) Republic CD ? (the best of) CD (UK) ? (the best of) CD (US) ? (the rest of) CD (CA) ? Out of Order CD (bootleg) Video 5-8-6 CDS The John Peel Sessions CD Get Ready CD Extra Order PROCD Crystal CDS (US) 60 Miles An Hour Tour EP CDS (AUS) Here To Stay CDS (AUS) World in Motion (2002) CDS Retro 5CD boxset Substance VHS (US) NewOrder Story (US) 316 DVD (UK) Taras Shevchenko VHS (US reissue) Crystal PROVHS (US)

Electronic: Getting Away With It CDS Electronic CD Dissapointed CDS Get The Message CD Twisted Tenderness CD (US) Twisted Tenderness Deluxe 2CD

Revenge: Revenge CDS One True Passion CD Gun World Porn EPCD (plus remixes)

Monaco: Music For Pleasure CD Monaco CD

Other Two: The Other Two & You CD Super Highways CD

I just have the official LPs (some of them are Polish editions, I'm not sure how rare they are), more recent singles, Ceremony 7", Peel sessions and some burned remixes. This is making me depressed. :(

I'm still eagerly awaiting another addition to my JD/NO collection - the exclusive "surprise" live tracks compilation courtesy of the man with the goodie bag, Mr Rocket the Mick. :(

Are you there Rocket ? Have you mislaid the address I emailed you old bean?

It's been a while - not received anything yet - hope nothing's gone missing in the post, unless you're still trying to get them copied onto CD or summat. If you read this - email us or reply here.....

........

Warsaw 12" (original demos) Warsaw CD (RCA album & original demos) Unknown Pleasures LP Closer LP LWTUA 7" Transmission 7" Komokino Flexi Atmosphere 12" Still LP (with 24 Hours) Heart & Soul 4CD Box Set Preston CD Les Bains Douches CD Peel Seesions 1 12" BBC Sessions CD They Keep Calling Me 12" Soul And Heart 12" Ian Cutis Interview CASSETTE

LIVE AT THE ELECTRIC CIRCUS 10"

CEREMONY 12" (original green version" EVERYTHINGS GONE GREEN 12" MOVEMANT 12" (autographed) POWER CORRUPTION AND LIES 12" SUBSTANCE 12" (autographed) BLUE MONDAY 12" 1981-1982 12" BROTHER HOOD 12" TECHNIQUE 12" REPUBLIC cd CRYSATL oz version cds 60 MPH oz tour edition cds HERE TO STAY oz version cds LIVE AT THE BBC cd GET READY (autographed) cd SUNBSTANCE cd

24 HOUR PARTY PEOLE OST cd SALVATION 12"

varoius cdrs of live matrial and mags with interviews which i cant be bothered typing in

Originally posted by Percolator I'm still eagerly awaiting another addition to my JD/NO collection - the exclusive "surprise" live tracks compilation courtesy of the man with the goodie bag, Mr Rocket the Mick. :(Are you there Rocket ?Have you mislaid the address I emailed you old bean?It's been a while - not received anything yet - hope nothing's gone missing in the post, unless you're still trying to get them copied onto CD or summat. If you read this - email us or reply here..... ........

see your e-mail

Thanks for the email Rocket - I've explained in it why I'm puzzled as to where the packet may have got to - I think it's the postmen in our area being typically clueless again - I wouldn't hold it past them for getting addresses or even house numbers mixed up.

Will check up on this and let you know - but thanks again for your generosity mate.

;)

Will check up on this and let you know - but thanks again for your generosity mate.

;) No problems i will send you something to be going onwith THEN when you receive them ok will send the BETTER CD-Rs!.So don't be upset the ROCKET will deliver.50 NOOL's can't be WRONG!:D

I have all albuns in cd of NO / JD & Projects. All singles in cd of NO & Electronic A lot of 7" & 12" of NO

I have specials rare itens:

Substance cd (Brazilian first edition with track list wrong) (track list of cd1 in fact is cd 2 track list of cd2 in fact is cd 1 (it's funny) )

All Brazilians 12"promos (includes TUTTI FRUTTI 12")

Closer LP - Brazilian Edition (includes Love will...)

Hacienda Flexi disc

Until the End of Time cd single

True Faith 2001(USA 2001 cd)

BM 88 - Brazilian flexidisc

Inoccence - USA 12"Promo Other Two

BM 88 - cd CAN

BM - cd JAP

T- SHIRT of REVENGE - Tour 1990 ( I buying in the show )

T- SHIRT of NO - Best of(promotional Brazilian iten from UNIVERSAL 1994)

video Pal-n format Interview MTV Brazil with Revenge (TOUR 1990 in Brazil)

Warsaw cd (movieplay Portugal)

Thanks to the enteprising generosity of a certain Rocket Mick on the forum I now have two welcome - if somewhat odd - additions to my JD/NO pile: a live JD gig on one and some New Order tracks on the other....

Many thanks to you mister!! Much appreciated

:)

Well, I now have three further proud additions to my previosly unworthy list...

To these 10 items I posterd earlier:

1. Blue Monday 1988 7" single
2. Bizzarre LoveTriangle 12" maxi single
3. Round And Round 7" single
4. Regret CD
5. World Price Of Love CD
6. True Faith 94 CD
7. Crystal (maxi single CD)
8. Substance 1987 CD album
9. The Best Of New Order CD album
10. Get Ready CD album...

I can now add

11. Here To Stay CD
12. 24 Hour Party People Soundtrack CD
13. Salvation Soundtrack (LP - European import)

I'm now hoping to get hold of the three Peel sessions albums that have been reissued lately in the UK but there is a store in Boston that deals with many UK and European release imports so hopefully they may be able to get hold of these soon.

:)

Records:

• 1981-FEP 313-1982
• Power, Corruption & Lies
• The Perfect Kiss
• Subculture
• Low Life
• State Of The Nation
• Bizarre Love Triangle
• Brotherhood
• Substance
• Technique CDs:
• Unknown Pleasures
• Closer
• Still
• Substance (Joy Division)
• Love Will Tear Us Apart '95 (4 track)
• Love Will Tear Us Apart '95 (full)
• Permanent
• Les Bains Douches
• Movement
• Power, Corruption & Lies
• Low Life
• Brotherhood
• Substance
• Technique
• Regret
• World (The Price Of Love)
• Republic
• (the best of) New Order
• (the best of) New Order (alternate)
• (the rest of) New Order
• (the rest of) New Order w. Blue Monday '95
• BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert
• Video 586
• Crystal (CD 1)
• Crystal (full)
• 60 Miles An Hour (CD 1)
• Get Ready
• Here To Stay (Australian import)
• Before & After
• International
• Retro (w. out bonus)
• World In Motion (re-release with Such A Good Thing) Tributes:
• Essence (Tribute To New Order)
• Blue Order: A Trance Tribute To New Order
• A Tribute To New Order Soundtracks:
• 24 Hour Party People Misc:
• Joy Division: Unknown Pleasures keychain
• Joy Division: Closer sticker
• New Order: 1981-FEP 313-1982 poster
• New Order: Get Ready tour t-shirt
• New Order: Power, Corruption & Lies sticker

Probably more, can't remember...

• New Order: Technique sticker

I have more empty wine bottles in my collection than I do have records by New Order & Joy Division.....

...... pride of place goes to the track that they ripped off Wire - "drill drill drill, digga digga digga" ......

...that's my favorite New Order single of all time

TEMPTATION / HURT (12" and 7" versions)

Absolute cider-swiggin' genius that one....!

The only other records I have are.....

.....oh shite, where did i put that little scrap of paper?...

.....ummmmm.....

....I think I need another drink....

...yea.....I definitely do.....

...um.....goodnight..

Some LARGE collection there!

Well, here's mine! 10 years collections-worth:

NEW ORDER

Ceremony UK 12" Movement CD Peel Sessions CD Peel Sessions (2nd Transmission) 12" Temptation UK 12" FACTUS 8 1981-1982 UK 12" Blue Monday (Non-Die cut sleeve) UK 12" Power, Corruption & Lies CD Power, Corruption & Lies UK 12" Confusion UK 12" Thieves Like Us UK 12" Perfect Kiss UK 12" Low Life CD Low Life Canadian 12" Shellshock UK 12" Brotherhood CD Brotherhood UK 12" Substance CD BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert CD Touched by the Hand of God UK 7" Fine Time UK 7" Round & Round UK 7" Round & Round UK 12" Technique CD Republic CD The Best Of CD The Best Of US CD The Rest Of CD Crystal CD1, CD2 + DVD Get Ready CD 60 MPH CD1, CD2 + DVD Here To Stay CD1 + DVD Live: Scamps, Blackpool 80 CD The Squat, Manchester 80 CD The Roxy, Stockholm 81 CD Glastonbury Festival 81 CD The Venue, Blackpool 82 CD The Hacienda 83 CDs St Andrews Hall, Detroit 83 CD The Hacienda 85 CDs Pier 84, New York 87 CD The Apollo, Manchester 98 CD The Olympia, Liverpool 2000 CD Finsbury Park 2002 CD Video/DVD: Taras Shevchenko VHS Pumped Full of Drugs VHS Brixton Academy VHS Substance VHS NewOrderStory VHS Best of New Order VHS Collection (1983 - 2001) VHS 316 (New York 81 + Reading 98) DVD Finsbury Park 2002 DVD

Warsaw

Warsaw UK 12" Warsaw CD

.....Sorry! Don't have time to finish my list, but I will do my best to finish it tomorrow! It includes JOY DIVISION, ELECTRONIC, MONACO, THE OTHER TWO & other various stuff!

It looks like so much when you type it down!!!

C'YA!

Whooo! that's mighty grand!

Well, I've finally regained consciousness after passing out the other night (bottle in hand) enough to remember where I placed that priceless cassette I had of New Order in 1987 (the full Glastonbury set in glorious muddy wow-and-flutter expletive-drenched glory)

Of course this was later issued as the rather cruddy live album on Strange Fruit in 1992 or something. But at least I now have the treasured warts and' all documentation of just why exactly I decided to spend nearly 75 minutes caned off me face sitting on a warm hillock swilling the brown stuff and listening to these blatant Wire copyists going "digga digga digga" and throwing the most hilariously UN-rock 'n' roll shapes on stage in the distance. Excellent. Shame about the ever so crappy beige cassette inlay that came with my copy (a bargain at the time at £4) - where's the imagination in that for danny's sakes??

Love the collection of WINE BOTTLES and remember they would be worth more if STILL SEALED.HIC:pClassic post though.Now have i told you about HOOKY'S empty POT NOODLE i have.Still smells nice Cheers ROCKET MICK

Originally posted by >>Essence Of Cessna<< Whooo! that's mighty grand!Of course this was later issued as the rather cruddy live album on Strange Fruit in 1992 or something. But at least I now have the treasured warts and' all documentation of just why exactly I decided to spend nearly 75 minutes caned off me face sitting on a warm hillock swilling the brown stuff and listening to these blatant Wire copyists going "digga digga digga" and throwing the most hilariously UN-rock 'n' roll shapes on stage in the distance. Excellent. Shame about the ever so crappy beige cassette inlay that came with my copy (a bargain at the time at £4) - where's the imagination in that for danny's sakes??

elastica were playing?

Originally posted by Hibster > Originally posted by >>Essence Of Cessna<<> Whooo! that's mighty grand!> > Of course this was later issued as the rather cruddy live album on Strange Fruit in 1992 or something. But at least I now have the treasured warts and' all documentation of just why exactly I decided to spend nearly 75 minutes caned off me face sitting on a warm hillock swilling the brown stuff and listening to these blatant Wire copyists going "digga digga digga" and throwing the most hilariously UN-rock 'n' roll shapes on stage in the distance. Excellent. Shame about the ever so crappy beige cassette inlay that came with my copy (a bargain at the time at £4) - where's the imagination in that for danny's sakes??

elastica were playing?

Joy Division:

Unknown Pleasures CD Closer CD Still CD Substance CD Permanent CD The Complete BBC reccordings CD Love Will Tear Us Apart 12" vinyl Digital Glass (CD)

New Order:

Movement CD Low-Life Cassette Technique Cassette Substance 1987 CD ? (Best of) CD Retro (CD) The John Peel Sessions (CD) Crystal (single) (CD)

Pretty besic but I get by :)

Nic's NEW ORDER related collection will be ONE better off once my packages to him get there!NO...this is NOT an APRIL FOOL but Rocket giving away a little gift from his collection.This time i have sent something that was special to me because it has one of those pre-issue STICKERS on it.I will now have to replace this but doubt i will get this sticker.But the guy deserves it.Moneywise it is probably worth £1 and two turnips!:DEnjoy the CD-Rs but i fear you will own ALL these. Cheers ROCKET MICK

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Hey man - (talking to you Rocket fella) when are you going to post up your HUGE collection that you've been teasing us about elsewhere in this very thread? Is it so big it might take up another 8 pages to fit it all in?

When will we be able to see it just so that we know you ain't just blagging...?

Come on, let's have it.... ! ;)

Just to state for the record, my wine bottle collection (plus liquor miniatures that I've collected on our various travels) numbers 1,016 items in all so far - all displayed on shelves in our 2 spare rooms....I've even insured them against theft cos they're so valuable to me!

Originally posted by >>Essence Of Cessna<< Hey man - (talking to you Rocket fella) when are you going to post up your HUGE collection that you've been teasing us about elsewhere in this very thread? Is it so big it might take up another 8 pages to fit it all in?When will we be able to see it just so that we know you ain't just blagging...?Come on, let's have it.... ! ;)Just to state for the record, my wine bottle collection (plus liquor miniatures that I've collected on our various travels) numbers 1,016 items in all so far - all displayed on shelves in our 2 spare rooms....I've even insured them against theft cos they're so valuable to me!

I will try ONE day but those on here who have WITNESSED it says it is CRAP.Ask SHUGZV,HANK or HOOKY'S WALLET! Mind you they loved PLANET ROCKET!Let me just say here and now that some MAJOR parts are missing in the JOY DIVISION side because i only seriously collected from 1985 but not many on here have surpassed my collection.But some of you have some BRILLIANT additions and RARE items.As i have often said other COLLECTIONS always SEEM better than ones own.But as for the actual MINTY MINT condition of the covers then i doubt mine can be surpassed even if you still had them sealed and put in a VAULT.Because you need to check them carefully for creases.Maybe i will send you some of the CRAP CD-Rs though to make you feel happier.After all once you have had a ROCKET MICK PRODUCTION then ALL collections FEEL better. Cheers ROCKET MICK...seeing is believing.

7"

Fine time

12"singles

Transmission Love will tear us apart Atmosphere Ceremony (green sleeve) Everythings gone green (3 tracks FBN) temptation Blue monday Confusion (83) Thieves like us Thieves like us instr remix (murder) The perfect kiss Subculture Shellshock State of the nation Bizarre love triangle True faith remix (87) Blue Monday 88 World in motion (90) World in motion remix (90) Gettin away whith it Get it away whith it remix (I do not remember the real title, I'm french and I'm not interessed by the meaning of english words, New order is an instrumental band for me...)

LPS:

Unknown pleasures Closer Still(2LP) Movement Power corruption and lies Low life Brotherhood Pell sessions (586,turn the heater on ...4 tracks) Facus 8 or Factus 8 (I do not remember) mini LP

CDS:

Substance (No) Substance (JD) Technique Electronic (1st LP) Revenge one true passion (the biggest shit ever heard) Regret cd single Republic (the second biggest...) Blue Monday 95(The third...) Get Ready (not so bad for 40 something band ...)

DVD:

316

I've became a No fan whith blue monday, like most of you I think. And I started beeing decept whith Thieves like us, why do they change of producer? They could have been a great dance band whith more singles like Confusion 83,Bizarre love Triangle remix 86 or true faith remix 87 instead of a boring uninspired New Wave band they became whith Brotherhood. They do their best whith Low Life, but it was also the beginning of the end (because of the photographes on the sleeve, singles made whith LP tracks,somethings they've never done before) And I'm sure they were conscious about breaking their legend, the F factory symbol, the live video of the perfect kiss I think it was a kind of will... I hope they 've died in a airplane crash in 85 before doing subculture remix... The legend in 83 was that New Order were bad in concerts and bastard whith journalists and audience, I've seen them in 89 in Montpellier, the worst gig ever seen....

For those who loves 80's electronics bands listen to these GREATS LPS FAD GADGET:Under the flag, YAZOO:Upstairs at Eric's,STRANGLERS: Feline, The best of Soft Cell/Marc almond, Heaven 17: Luxury Gap, Human league the 83 Lp whith "Lebanon"

For those who loves real rock and roll like the JD's Still Anything by IGGY POP before 80, the before 80 live of the Stranglers or 77-82 Singles Collection, Velvet underground Banana, The Ramones, Lords of the new church 1st LP....

Friendly A NO fan

Originally posted by Stéphane Basset For those who loves 80's electronics bands listen to these GREATS LPS FAD GADGET:Under the flag, YAZOO:Upstairs at Eric's,STRANGLERS: Feline, The best of Soft Cell/Marc almond, Heaven 17: Luxury Gap, Human league the 83 Lp whith "Lebanon"

Fad Gadget is a genius! I'm a huge fan...! In fact I remember even Aphex Twin (another hero of mine) naming him as an influence some time ago....shows how singular his vision must be..

And Yazoo's Upstairs At Erics is a damn fine ageless and classic album! That track "I Before E except after C" is best listened to whilst you're tripping off your tits. Like I always do. Fantastic stuff!

:D

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by >>Essence Of Cessna<<> Hey man - (talking to you Rocket fella) when are you going to post up your HUGE collection that you've been teasing us about elsewhere in this very thread? Is it so big it might take up another 8 pages to fit it all in?> > When will we be able to see it just so that we know you ain't just blagging...?> > > Come on, let's have it.... ! ;)> > Just to state for the record, my wine bottle collection (plus liquor miniatures that I've collected on our various travels) numbers 1,016 items in all so far - all displayed on shelves in our 2 spare rooms....I've even insured them against theft cos they're so valuable to me!

I will try ONE day but those on here who have WITNESSED it says it is CRAP.Ask SHUGZV,HANK or HOOKY'S WALLET! Mind you they loved PLANET ROCKET!Let me just say here and now that some MAJOR parts are missing in the JOY DIVISION side because i only seriously collected from 1985 but not many on here have surpassed my collection.But some of you have some BRILLIANT additions and RARE items.As i have often said other COLLECTIONS always SEEM better than ones own.But as for the actual MINTY MINT condition of the covers then i doubt mine can be surpassed even if you still had them sealed and put in a VAULT.Because you need to check them carefully for creases.Maybe i will send you some of the CRAP CD-Rs though to make you feel happier.After all once you have had a ROCKET MICK PRODUCTION then ALL collections FEEL better. Cheers ROCKET MICK...seeing is believing.

Whatever, its great to see that there are so many devoted fans here who will have the dedication to go the long haul and spend decades (ha - pun intended) searching for the rarer things they missed out on first time round. I have to hang my head in shame and confess to only having a dozen or so New Order records. I tend to listen to all sorts of weird electronic shit like Kugracht, SchneiderTM, Ronnie and Clyde, Nurse with Wound, Fad Gadget, DAF, Autechre, Boards of Canada, Telefunken, etc... so I have to admit being biased towards that sort of stuff, but having heard New Order incessantly during my student years I realise that I've been a bit of a late starter when it comes to getting hold of their music. Still - better late than never as they say!

:D

Just a small question regarding the value of some original Joy Division albums on Factory records. My friend told me there existed a cloth-bound or hard-back cover (or equivalent, I can't be too sure) edition of the double 12" live and rarities album "Still".

Was there really such a format of this album released? If so, what would the collector value be for something so rare? Can someone enlighten me please?

Joe

Just a small question regarding the value of some original Joy Division albums on Factory records. My friend told me there existed a cloth-bound or hard-back cover (or equivalent, I can't be too sure) edition of the double 12" live and rarities album "Still".

Was there really such a format of this album released? If so, what would the collector value be for something so rare? Can someone enlighten me please?

Joe

Originally posted by Joseph Valkeirie Just a small question regarding the value of some original Joy Division albums on Factory records. My friend told me there existed a cloth-bound or hard-back cover (or equivalent, I can't be too sure) edition of the double 12" live and rarities album "Still".Was there really such a format of this album released? If so, what would the collector value be for something so rare? Can someone enlighten me please?Joe

Yes it exists because i own one.Not too much cos there are a lot of them.I only paid £20 aprox 3 years ago which was £10 less than the JAPAN CD STILL that i bought about 8 years ago!

Just a small additional contribution of my JD / NO collection: JD:

• Warsaw (LP+7")
• Unknown Pleasures (LP, CD)
• Closer (LP, CD)
• Love will tear us apart (12")
• Permanent (CD)
• Les Bains Douches (CD)
• Heart and Soul (CD boxset)

NO:

• Movement (LP, CD)
• Power, Corruption & Lies (LP)
• Low-life (LP, CD)
• 1981-1982 (EP)
• Confusion (12")
• Brotherhood (CD)
• Substance (CD)
• BBC Radio 1 Live in concert (CD)
• The John Peel Sessions (CD)
• Technique (CD)
• Republic (CD)
• (the best of) New Order (CD)
• (the rest of) New Order (CD)
• Get Ready (CD)
• 316 (DVD)
• 511 (DVD)

Books:

• A History in Cuttings (numbered for what it's worth)

Not so much special compared with a lot of others but it's ok for me so far.

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by Joseph Valkeirie> Just a small question regarding the value of some original Joy Division albums on Factory records. My friend told me there existed a cloth-bound or hard-back cover (or equivalent, I can't be too sure) edition of the double 12" live and rarities album "Still".> > Was there really such a format of this album released? If so, what would the collector value be for something so rare? Can someone enlighten me please?> > Joe>

Yes it exists because i own one.Not too much cos there are a lot of them.I only paid £20 aprox 3 years ago which was £10 less than the JAPAN CD STILL that i bought about 8 years ago!

Gee - thanks for the info! How rare was this version then....was it a very limited edition? And were any other Joy Division albums released in special formats like this? £20 seems much less than I would have expected. I was reckoning on, I guess, something like 100 bucks for such an item......

Funny to find a Boro fan who had a Oi! Ska obsession the same as me! My NO JD collection is nothing to write home about compared to most of you guys:

JD Albums: Still, Double Cassette Tape (EMI/GAP NZ) Unknown Pleasures,Cassette Tape (EMI/GAP NZ) Closer, Cassette Tape(EMI/GAP NZ) Substance, Tape Permanent CD

JD 12": Love will tear us apart,Factory, released in NZ thru EMI/Gap Transmission, Factory Atmosphere, Factory US, re-released '85

New Order Albums: Movement, LP, Factory/B Music 1981-1982 12"'Everythings gone Green' EP NZ pressing thru GAP/EMI PCL LP NZ pressing thru GAP/EMI Low Life, LP with Tracing Paper Brotherhood, CD Substance, CD Technique, CD Best of, CD Get Ready, CD

NO Singles: Blue Monday, 12" NZ pressing thru GAP/EMI Confusion, Original 12" Factory pressing from UK Blue Monday, 12" NZ pressing thru GAP/EMI World in Motion, 12" Australasian pressing thru Festival

DVD's:

New Order 316 New Order 511

That's it, meager and lacking in the depth you guys have but, they're mine and I'm proud of it!

Oh, and this ones for Hugh: COME ON THE BORO!! (Should be 3 more points this week, West Brom at Riverside!)

Originally posted by Gary McLeod Funny to find a Boro fan who had a Oi! Ska obsession the same as me!My NO JD collection is nothing to write home about compared to most of you guys:JD Albums:Still, Double Cassette Tape (EMI/GAP NZ)Unknown Pleasures,Cassette Tape (EMI/GAP NZ)Closer, Cassette Tape(EMI/GAP NZ)Substance, TapePermanent CDJD 12":Love will tear us apart,Factory, released in NZ thru EMI/GapTransmission, FactoryAtmosphere, Factory US, re-released '85New Order Albums:Movement, LP, Factory/B Music1981-1982 12"'Everythings gone Green' EP NZ pressing thru GAP/EMIPCL LP NZ pressing thru GAP/EMILow Life, LP with Tracing PaperBrotherhood, CDSubstance, CDTechnique, CDBest of, CDGet Ready, CDNO Singles:Blue Monday, 12" NZ pressing thru GAP/EMIConfusion, Original 12" Factory pressing from UKBlue Monday, 12" NZ pressing thru GAP/EMIWorld in Motion, 12" Australasian pressing thru FestivalDVD's:New Order 316New Order 511That's it, meager and lacking in the depth you guys have but, they're mine and I'm proud of it!Oh, and this ones for Hugh: COME ON THE BORO!!(Should be 3 more points this week, West Brom at Riverside!)

Cheers Gazza (no, not that fat old hasbeen) - and it's CHAMPION ta see another Boro fan on here - cos I've been the only one up until now, very lonely indeed as ye can imagine! Divvunt knaa ye'd posted here until yer let on in the MFC forum - even though I spend most of me time there now spoutin' shite with the rest of 'em - and seein' as ye're on there an' all, we're in the good company of other likeminded nutters.

Why aye....ye're dead reet an' all.... greet news about last Satdee's result too - an' the best bit is that we're joint top with Man United at the moment with regard ta points from our last six or seven games - the only two teams in the Prem who have maintained a clean sheet with NO defeats - four wins an' two draws apiece - who'd 'ave thought it, eh? Especially after the dreadful winter dip we 'ad in Dec/Jan.... Looks like things are startin' ta pick up ageen for the final home straight - here's hopin' we keep the momentum and thrash Man City this comin' weekend as well....fingers crossed... :)

See ya back on the other place! (there's a few other Antipodeans that post there an' all so yer shouldn't feel too isolated.....) ;)

Hello HUBERT MICKLE ...how are you and the family.Not heard from you for a while and your banter is TRULY missed.Come back soon and give us a treat!

Originally posted by dave hibell factory years7"fac 33 ceremony (2 copies slight colour variation)vfact110-2 procession/e.g.g. blue sleevefac 63 temptationlc5661 confusion lime green one sidedfac 103 thieves like usfac 123 perfect kiss (steve & gillian sleeve)fac 133 subculturermep2 record mirror exclusive mix of subculturefac 143 shellshockfac 153-7 state of the nationfac 163-7 bltfac 26 - canadian gatefold sleeve blt (wrongly numbered - fac 26 is a poster for a durutti column paris gig that was cancelled)fac 183-7 true faithfac 193-7 touchedqwest 7-27979 blue monday 88 promo 7" (says remixed by john "tokes" potoker)fac 223-7 fine timefac 263-7 round &roundfac 273/7 run2fac 293-7 wim12"fac 33 ceremony green sleevefac 33 cream blue sleeve - original versionfac 33 cream & blue - re-recorded versionfbn8 e g gfac 63 temptationfactus 8 - 1981-1982 epfac 73 blue monday (die cut & non die cut) silver inner sleeve & black inner sleevefac 93 confusionminimal records qal-249 confusion remix epfac 103 thievesfbn22 murderfac123 tpk (crimson inner sleeve)rtd 022t tpk with the lettering in gold text instead of embossedfac 133 sub-culturefac 143 shell shockfac 153 state of the nationsfps 001 peel session 1/6/82 copper sleevefac 163 bltfac 183 true faithfac 183r true faith remixsfps 039 peel session 26/1/81fac 193 touchedfac 223 fine timefac 223r fine time rmixfac 263 round & roundfac 263r round & round remixfac 263dj round & round other mixesfac 273 run2wfacx293 wim dj12"fac 293 wimfac 293r wim remixcdsqwest 9 20546-2 blt us cdfacd193 touchedfacd73 blue monday 88facd 223 fine timefacd263 r&r 5"facd263r r&r 3"facd 293 wimfbn 8 cd egg (previously only place to get cries & whispers on cd)cdvtrue faithalbumfact 50 movementfact 75 pc & lfact 100 low life low life italian import on base records - no tracing paper but silver & black text printed on sleevefact 150 brotherhoodfact 200s the gatefold substancefact 275 tehniquecassettefact 100c in white linen boxfact 150c " " " "fact 200c " " " "ror 1 discreet campaigns inc sunrise instrumental (rough mix)t 01 featuremist inc prime 586 parts 1 & 2palatine box setfac305c select magazine compilationdatfact275d techniquecdfacd50 movementfacd75 p c & lfacd100 low lifeqwest 9 25511-2 brotherhoodfacd200 substancefacd275 techniqueIPCD2022-36 salvation (german)win cd011 bbc radio 1 in concertothernew order advertising technique - sticker free with nmefac 227 fred fact page from nmefac 351 the hacienda must be builtfac177 pfdfact225 substance videoacademy (withdrawn sleeve)from joy division to new order mick middles fac191*various white labels in 7 & 12"volume 1 - incl confusion remixed by dimitri for dmceva-tone 1028121xs - flexi from us tour 87 feat shame o the nationwill add post factory years & check what have fogotten at later date.*not really

can add to that a history in cuttings 7 new copies of fac53 (see otehr thread for colours) perfect kiss us promo with video edit perfect kiss 12" with cyan, blue & black inner perfect kiss 7" - now have both factory benelux sleeves brotherhood on factory cd with limited metallic sleeve & shellshock/thieves european 7" on a&m

Originally posted by Rocket Mick Hello HUBERT MICKLE ...how are you and the family.Not heard from you for a while and your banter is TRULY missed.Come back soon and give us a treat!

How're ye the day, marra?!! Ah's clivvor - are yer well an' keepin' yer hair on an' oot of botha??......don't frequent here too often ta be honest with ya..... I don't have much more of interest ta really say that hasn't aalready been said like, y'knaa? It's not like anyone genuinely misses me banter cos I've nivvor been that regular a poster here ta begin with... but it's nice ta knaa ONE person hasn't forgotten me - even if everybody else has. ;)

Thanks fer askin' after family - Charley, meself an' the bairns are plannin' on movin' to Ireland between now and this time next year - so there's lots of things we need sortin' out such as like until little Thom is a year old an' when he starts walkin'. Been doin' nowt much else but that really an' keepin' tabs on my beloved Boro FC back on the rebound ageen....

Oh, by the way - guess what I found in HMV in toon the other week when they had a recent clearout sale - RETRO for only £14.99 - just the one copy left in the store mind - that's HALF PRICE - an' it had the FIFTH BONUS disc an' all. :D What a bargain eh? Shame when I got it home an' played it I found to me disgust some terrible remasterin' gannin' on - especially on Discs One and Two. What the frick is that all aboot? Record company shortchangin' the fans ageen? Plus - the booklet was badly printed - there were light grey splotches on some of the pages, it looked real shoddy. Are they Peter Saville's cum-stains or summat, like? Maybe that was why it was gannin' cheap at 15 quid....dear knaas.....

Still - at least I can add that to my collection now.....

Anyways - may pop back in here on me birthday - that's the day before the 23rd anniversary of Ian Curtis's death in case ye all forgot.....

Laters...

HUBERT....cheers for you E-MAIL.I have just read it at 06:35 SATURDAY morning.Banter is dying!You are going to have a big upheaval if you go to IRELAND but i remember you mentioning this a long time ago.It came up when you mentioned you hated wearing a TIE at work and dealing with sometimes IGNORANT customers in your job.I too had to make a choice as to KEEP going in my well paid but STRESSFUL job ...working crazy hours and hating it.I decided to get my REDUNDANCY..have a great time then face the future without the HASSLE.So far it is working as i am now only WORKING when i need a bit of dosh.For you with a young family to support then obviously it is different.But having a great partner is the best thing in the world.I should know cos i once HAD everything and now have nothing.But hey..it don't get the ROCKET down for long.I am still enjoying LIFE to the max.So many have left this site but there are plenty of NEW and AMUSING people here.Don't leave us for EVER.Maybe the odd comment to keep me in check..a bit like the one you did when you feared i went ON too much.Of couurse you are RIGHT and i REPEAT myself but No one LISTENS so no harm done. Keep the Faith HUBERT and have a good future! Cheers Rocket Mick

Her-hey Rocket Man .... enjoyed the two CDs of stuff you sent us - some of the tracks are excellent! One small problem - which i didn't mention earlier cos I never got round to it - why does the Dorian Mix of "Vanishing Point" cut off suddenly before it's reached its logical end? was there a problem with the mastering or is this supposed to be an incomplete version - it sounds like it just ran out of tape!

Awaiting your answer, Mr Enterprise!

:D

Originally posted by Simple Headphone Mind Her-hey Rocket Man .... enjoyed the two CDs of stuff you sent us - some of the tracks are excellent! One small problem - which i didn't mention earlier cos I never got round to it - why does the Dorian Mix of "Vanishing Point" cut off suddenly before it's reached its logical end? was there a problem with the mastering or is this supposed to be an incomplete version - it sounds like it just ran out of tape! Awaiting your answer, Mr Enterprise!:D

God knows...probably i was on the and got tired.Will search out a PROPER version but then again may just have some more .BTW why the hell did i send you anything you ungrateful git?WHO ARE YOU?

God! Why is this bloody site so fucking slow? No wonder I hardly post here much - the page takes about a year to flippin' well load! Sort it out webmasters!

Rocket - are you joking when you say you don't know me? I was the one formerly known as Golden Ball, and Percolator, remember??

Anyway - it's okay about the "vanishing into thin air mix" of Vanishing Point.... what really tickled me was hearing the Sunkist ad - bet Barney was really cringing when he sang that line....i can almost imagine him singing the words through gritted teeth. ha ha - how funny!

Bollocks - this is ridiculous - I press "send" and nothing happens, then when I click back out of the thread to repost it ends up being duplicated! Now I've just had to edit the message so as not to look like i'm repeating myself.....GRRRRRR!

Originally posted by Simple Headphone Mind God! Why is this bloody site so fucking slow? No wonder I hardly post here much - the page takes about a year to flippin' well load! Sort it out webmasters!Rocket - are you joking when you say you don't know me? I was the one formerly known as Golden Ball, and Percolator, remember??Anyway - it's okay about the "vanishing into thin air mix" of Vanishing Point.... what really tickled me was hearing the Sunkist ad - bet Barney was really cringing when he sang that line....i can almost imagine him singing the words through gritted teeth. ha ha - how funny!

Of course i am joking:D.these mixes where sent to me by a NOOL who did an excellent job.This i have overlooked in my HASTE to spread NEW or different tracks.The problem for me is i PROMISE that much that i sometimes get into OVERLOAD.But i am sure you can ALL forgive me.Having a difficult time at the moment so QUALITY CONTROL could be lapsing at PLANET ROCKET STUDIOS.Just recorde for 4 more NOOL's tonight from GERMANY ,BRAZIL,ENGLAND and USA so i AM reaching out more.Once i get my LIFE sorted i will carry on with some more goodies for you!Take care from a rather BAD Rocket on the RUN!:D

BTW if you PUBLISHED your PROFILE i could monitor your NAMECHANGES cos CHESHIRE has been sent more than ONE package!Don't be shy!:D

Hey Rocketman - yeah - i take yr point, maybe I should stick me profile back up - cos I DID fill one in when I started posting, but the pic I had initially - before i pulled it hastily - was of a very large black labrador (actually our dog Checkers) and I didn't think it was exactly representative, so I'll get working back on that one and try and find a better more flattering photo of myself to stick on it!! (but having said that - do we know what YOU look like ? - cos there's never a pic on your profile either!)

As for your CD giveaways - yere a trooper - keep up the good work chuck - everyone here surely appreciates your efforts matey!

:)

Originally posted by Mark The Macc Hey Rocketman - yeah - i take yr point, maybe I should stick me profile back up - cos I DID fill one in when I started posting, but the pic I had initially - before i pulled it hastily - was of a very large black labrador (actually our dog Checkers) and I didn't think it was exactly representative, so I'll get working back on that one and try and find a better more flattering photo of myself to stick on it!! (but having said that - do we know what YOU look like ? - cos there's never a pic on your profile either!)As for your CD giveaways - yere a trooper - keep up the good work chuck - everyone here surely appreciates your efforts matey!:)

Cheers mate but it ain't you picture but your ACTUAL PROFILE that can't be LOOKED at if you get my drift.As you know i don't EXIST so you can't see me!

Whaddaya mean you don't exist??

Anyways, your wish is my command - I've reinstated the profile but without the pic of the black dog. I'll have to get a pic of our OTHER dog Marbles as soon as I can scan one in, hee hee....

;)

Originally posted by Mark The Macc Whaddaya mean you don't exist??Anyways, your wish is my command - I've reinstated the profile but without the pic of the black dog. I'll have to get a pic of our OTHER dog Marbles as soon as I can scan one in, hee hee....;)

That's better and have you CHILLED now SCHOOL'S OUT!:D Rocket GHOST OF HIS FORMER SELF MICK THE THICK SENSE!

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by Mark The Macc> Whaddaya mean you don't exist??> > Anyways, your wish is my command - I've reinstated the profile but without the pic of the black dog. I'll have to get a pic of our OTHER dog Marbles as soon as I can scan one in, hee hee....> > > ;)

That's better and have you CHILLED now SCHOOL'S OUT!:D Rocket GHOST OF HIS FORMER SELF MICK THE THICK SENSE!

My God man, what ARE you on now....?? :D :D :D

Can I have some?? You are one crrrrraaaaaaazy dude!

Oh by the way it's not horrid little school kids I teach - I do part time tutoring at Macclesfield College! They're ADULT delinquents there....hmph!

Originally posted by Mark The Macc > Originally posted by Rocket Mick> > > > Originally posted by Mark The Macc> > Whaddaya mean you don't exist??> > > > Anyways, your wish is my command - I've reinstated the profile but without the pic of the black dog. I'll have to get a pic of our OTHER dog Marbles as soon as I can scan one in, hee hee....> > > > > > ;)>

That's better and have you CHILLED now SCHOOL'S OUT!:D Rocket GHOST OF HIS FORMER SELF MICK THE THICK SENSE!

My God man, what ARE you on now....?? :D :D :D

Can I have some?? You are one crrrrraaaaaaazy dude!

Oh by the way it's not horrid little school kids I teach - I do part time tutoring at Macclesfield College! They're ADULT delinquents there....hmph!

Sorry i have just finished ALL the TABs.Adults! Wish i could paint cos the KITCHEN is a mess!

What a pity then that our Marbles isn't a DULUX DOG!!

hey - ever get the feeling that we're starting to hijack somebody elses thread here with all this off-subject baloney???!!!

It's supposed to be about your record collections or summat innit?

Yes i get your point.Sorry NOOL's.Enjoyed the banter though MACK THE KNIFED IN THE THROAT!:D

Originally posted by Rocket Mick Yes i get your point.Sorry NOOL's.Enjoyed the banter though MACK THE KNIFED IN THE THROAT!:D

Sorry i didn't reply to you earlier Mister Rocket our kid, but the wife beckoned me to bed (oo-er) ..... but to hell with it - if we can't have a lively banter anywhere on the forum, then what's the point at all in actually HAVING SOME FUN??

Good question, don't you think?

Rockster - this one's for you....

So un-cap the DULUX...and do us all a FAVOUR!! That colour schemes lost it's taste.... lets try another FLAVOUR!!!!!!

D'you know what I mean? ;) :p :evil2:

Originally posted by Mark The Macc Rockster - this one's for you....So un-cap the DULUX...and do us all a FAVOUR!!That colour schemes lost it's taste....lets try another FLAVOUR!!!!!!D'you know what I mean? ;) :p :evil2:

ANT MUSIC OH OH OH OH OH :D

Ok trooper- so far so good - now are you gonna join me in painting a white stripe across the nose and doing a Burundhi drum solo or what??

DURRUM DE-DUM DE-DUM DE-DUM DE-DUM DE-DUM DE-DUM-DUM.... !!

Roll on the DULUX DOG - and his name is MARCO!

Originally posted by Mark The Macc Ok trooper- so far so good - now are you gonna join me in painting a white stripe across the nose and doing a Burundhi drum solo or what??DURRUM DE-DUM DE-DUM DE-DUM DE-DUM DE-DUM DE-DUM-DUM.... !!Roll on the DULUX DOG - and his name is MARCO!

Don't paint your CHIPS though!:D STAND and DELIVER....... ART for ART'S SAKE ....MONEY FOR GOD'S SAKE. I really should get out more but keeping a LOW profile till SHUGZV arrives later today.Just recording now and the collection will get a BIG viewing by SHUGZV this weekend.

I always thought it was 'STAND ON MY LIVER' anyway.

Good to hear youre still busy chugging away at your PRODUCTION FACTORY coming up with the goods - me, the wife and CHECKERS and MARBLES are off out in a bit for a little Good Friday gallivant round the Derbyshire hills in a moment - League of Gentlemen country..... We'll be looking for the LOCAL SHOP and watching all the hang gliders whilst chillin out on the summit with a few ice cold beers. That is the life.

Have a good Easter bud and more chitchat laters!

;)

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Recently added 'Hope' to my collection, ok not strictly neworder but a rare charity record featuring the band which they took the time out to record for free and is for a good cause.

Me likewise!

;)

CEREMONY 7": AU 1981 (EMI/Gap SFA-541) 7": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 33) [gold sleeve] 12": AU 1981 (GAP/CBS FAC 33)
12": IT 1981 (Factory/Base FAC 33) [bronze sleeve] 12": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 33) FAC33A1 12": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 33) [cream/blue sleeve] FAC33 12": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 33)WLP

PROCESSION 7": IT 1981 (Factory FAC 53) 7”: FR 1981(Factory FAC 53) 7": NZ 1981 (Factory FAC 53)yellow sticker 7": NZ 1981 (Factory FAC 53)light blue sticker 7": PG 1981 (Factory/Vimusica VFACT 110-2 7": SP 1981 (Nuevos Medios 20 008S 7": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 53) set black, red, blue, brown, yellow, orange, green, aqua and purple

EVERTHINGS GONE GREEN 12": BL 1981 (Factory Benelux FBNL 8 CD5: BL 1990 (Factory Benelux FBN 8 CD

TEMPTATION 7": UK 1982 (Factory FAC 63 12": UK 1982 (Factory FAC 63

XMAS FLEXI 7": UK 1982 (Factory FAC 51b) [flexi

BLUE MONDAY 7": PL 1983 (Tonpress S-534 12": NZ 1983 (EMI/GAP GOOD 10 12": UK 1983 (Factory FAC 73) 12": UK 1983 (Factory FAC 73) [white label promo]

CONFUSION 7": UK 1983 (Factory FAC 93) [promo 7": GE 1983 (Rough Trade LC 5661) [1 sided promo green, lime, blue, purple 12": NZ 1983 (EMI GOOD 501) 12": UK 1983 (Factory FAC 93) 12": US 1983 (Streetwise SWRL 2213 New Music Seminar Special Edition

THIEVES LIKE US 7": UK 1984 (Factory FAC 103) [promo] 12": UK 1984 (Factory FAC 103)

MURDER 12": BL 1984 (Factory Benelux FBN 22)

THE PERFECT KISS 12": AU 1985 (Factory FAC 123) 12": UK 1985 (Factory FAC 123)

SUBCULTURE 7": UK 1985 (Factory FAC 133 7": UK 1986 (Record Mirror RMEP2) 12": UK 1985 (Factory FAC 133)

SHELLSHOCK 7": UK 1986 (Factory FAC 143) 7": AU 1986 (A&M MX-66441) 12": AU 1986 (A&M/Factory/Festival X14286) 12": UK 1986 (Factory FAC 143)

STATE OF THE NATION 7": UK 1986 (Factory FAC 153) 12": AU 1986 (Factory/CBS FAC 153) 12": UK 1986 (Factory FAC 153) 12": UK 1986 (Factory FAC 153) white label promo

BIZARRE LOVE TRIANGLE 7": CA 1986 (PolyGram FAC 26) [gatefold sleeve] 7": UK 1986 (Factory FAC 163) 7": AU 1986 (Factory FAC 163153) 12": UK 1986 (Factory FAC 163) CD5:CA 1986(QWEST 2-20546)

TRUE FAITH 12": US 1986 (Qwest PRO-A-2644) [promo] 7": AU 1987 (Factory/CBS FAC 183-7) 7": UK 1987 (Factory FAC 183-7) 7": UK 1987 (Factory FAC 183-7 white label promo 12": AU 1987 (Factory/CBS FAC 183 12": UK 1987 (Factory FAC 183) 12": UK 1987 (Factory FAC 183R) 12": AU 1987 (Factory/CBS FAC 183R) CD5: US 1987 (Qwest PRO-CD-2899) [promo] CDV: UK 1989 (Factory FACDV 183) [PAL]

TOUCHED BY THE HAND OF GOD 7": AU 1987 (Factory/CBS FAC 193-7) 7": UK 1987 (Factory FAC 193-7) 7": GE 1987 (Factory/Rough Trade RTD 031) CD3: JP 1987 (Factory/Nippon Columbia 10CY-8010) 12": AU 1987 (Factory/CBS FAC 193) 12": UK 1987 (Factory FAC 193) 12": UK 1987 (Factory FAC 193 white label promo CD5: JP 1988 (Factory/Nippon Columbia 15CY-5017) CD5: AU 1987 (Factory/CBS FACD 193) CD5: UK 1987 (Factory FACD 193)

BLUE MONDAY 88 7": AU 1988 (Factory/CBS FAC 73-7) 7": UK 1988 (Factory FAC 73-7) 7": BZ 1988 (BIZZ Magazine flexi) 12": AU 1988 (Factory/CBS FAC 73R) 12": UK 1988 (Factory FAC 73R) 12": UK 1988 (Factory FAC 73RD) CD3: JP 1988 (Factory/Nippon Columbia 10CY-8038) CD5: UK 1988 (Factory FACD 73R) CD5: US 1988 (Qwest PRO-CD-3053) [promo] CDV: UK 1988 (Factory FACDV 73R) [PAL]

FINE TIME 7": UK 1988 (Factory FAC 223-7) 12": AU 1990 (Factory/CBS FAC 223) 12": UK 1988 (Factory FAC 223) 12": UK 1988 (Factory FAC 223DJ) [pink sleeve promo] CD5: GE 1988 (Rough Trade RTDCD 046) CD5: UK 1988 (Factory FACD 223)

ROUND AND ROUND 12": AU 1989 (Factory/CBS FAC 263) CD3: UK 1989 (Factory FACD 263R) CD3: GE 1989 (Rough Trade RTDCD R 050) CD3: GE 1989 (Rough Trade RTDCD 050)

RUN 2 7": UK 1989 (Factory FAC 273-7) [promo] 12": UK 1989 (Factory FAC 273)

WORLD IN MOTION 7": UK 1990 (Factory/MNW FAC 293-7) CD3: GE 1990 (Factory/Rough Trade RTDCD 076) CD5:UK 1990(factory Facd293)

IN ORDER 12": US 1993 (Qwest PRO-A-5970) [promo] [orange vinyl] CD: US 1993 (Qwest PRO-CD-5970) [promo]

REGRET 2x12": UK 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. NUOXDJ1) [promo] CD5: UK 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. NUOCD1)857121.2] CD5: FR 1993 (Barclay 1648) [promo] 12": FR 1993 (Barclay) [promo]

RUINED IN A DAY 12": UK 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. NUOXDJ2)WLP CD5: UK 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. NUOCD 2) [Int 857219.2]

WORLD 2x12": UK 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. NUOXDJ 3) [promo] 2x12": US 1993 (Qwest PRO-A-6276) [promo] CD5: GE 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. Int 857301.2)

TRUE FAITH 94 12": UK 1994 (London Records 90 Ltd NUOXDJ5) [promo

NINETEEN 63 12": UK 1995 (London Records 90 Ltd NUXXDJ6) [promo CD5: UK 1995 (London Records 90 Ltd NUCDP6)

BLUE MONDAY 1995 CD5: GE 1995 (London Records 90 Ltd Int 850039.2) ["Blauer"]

VIDEO 586 CD5: UK 1997 (Touch TONE 7)

BRUTAL CDR: UK 2000 (London Records) [promo] 4:49 Brutal

TRUE FAITH 12": US 2001 (Qwest/Reprise PRO-A-100645-A) [promo] CDR: US 1998 (Warner/Reprise) [promo]

CRYSTAL 12": UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NXXDJ8) [promo] 12": UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NXXDJ8) [promo]
12": UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NXXXDJ8) [promo] CD5: UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NUOCD8) CD5: UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NUCDP8) CD5: AU 2001 (London Records 092 740 701-2) DVD: UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NUDVD8) [PAL Region 2]

60 MILES AN HOUR CD5: UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NCDJ9) [promo] CD5: AU 2002 (London Records/WEA 092 743 453-2 DVD: AU 2001 (London Records 0927-42906-2)

SOMEONE LIKE YOU 2x12": GE 2001 (London Records/WEA 092 743 300-1) 2x12": UK 2001 (London Records NXDJ10) [promo] 2x12": UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NUOX10) 12": UK 2001 (London Records NXXDJ 10) [promo]

HERE TO STAY 2x12": US 2001 (Reprise Records PRO-A-100804) [promo] 2x12": UK 2002 (London Records NXXDJ11) [promo] CDR: UK 2002 (London Records NCDJ11) [promo] DVD: UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NUDVD1

CONFUSION 2002 12":UK 2002(whackt002) WLP CD:UK 2002(whackt 002CD)

MOVEMENT LP: IT 1981 (Factory/Base FACT 50) LP: UK 1981 (Factory FACT 50) CD: UK 1986 (Factory FACD 50) CD: US 1988 (Factory/Rough Trade FACTUS 50 CD)

1981-1982 LP: UK 1982 (Factory FACTUS 8) CD: CA 1989 (PolyGram 830 408-2)

POWER CORRUPTION AND LIES LP: GE 1983 (Factory/Rough Trade RTD11A) [testpress] LP: UK 1983 (Factory FACT 75) CD: UK 1986 (Factory FACD 75)

LOW LIFE LP: AR 1987 (Buelax VLX10002) LP: JP 1985 (Factory/Nippon Columbia YX-7352-AX) LP: UK 1985 (Factory FAC 100) CD: UK 1985 (Factory FACD 100)

BROTHERHOOD LP: UK 1986 (Factory FACT 150SP) [limited metallic sleeve] CD: UK 1986 (Factory FACD 150) [limited metallic sleeve]

SUBSTANCE 2xLP: UK 1987 (Factory FACT 200S) [gatefold sleeve] CS: UK 1987 (Factory FACT 200C) [white box, ltd.ed. 2000]

TECHNIQUE LP: AR 1989 (DG 234) [testpress with withdrawn cover] LP: AR 1992 (London 29386 promo) LP: UK 1989 (Factory FACT 275) CD: UK 1989 (Factory FACD 275) DAT: UK 1989 (Factory FACT 275D)

CD: UK 2000 (Strange Fruit Records SFRSCD 095)

CD: UK 2000 (Strange Fruit SFRSCD093)

REPUBLIC LP: UK 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. 828413.1) CD: UK 1993 (London/CentreDate Co Ltd. 828413.2) CD: JP 1993 (Polydor K.K. POCD-1110) CD: US 1993 (Qwest 9 45311-2)

BEST OF CD: US 1995 (Qwest/Warner Bros. 9 45794-2) CD: UK 1994 (London Records 90 Ltd 828580.2) UK promo box set

REST OF ltd CD: UK 1995 (London Records 90 Ltd 8286612)

20 YEARS OF CD: US 2001 (Reprise PRO-CD-100667) [promo]

GET READY CD: FR 2001 (WEA/London 8573 89621-2) with comic booklet. CD: UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd 8573 89621-2) CD: GR 2001 (Warner Music Greece PRO 170) [promo CD: 2001 (PR02704) ["Interview 2001"] [promo]

EXTRA ORDER CD5: US 2001 (Reprise Records PRO-CD-100784) [promo]

INTERNATIONAL CS:JP 2002 (Warner WPCR11420) sample tape CD:TW 2002(London 0927-49226-2) CD:UK 2002(London 0927-492262) CD:FR 2002(London 5050466144522) CD:US 2002(Rhino R2 73835) CD:EU 2002 sample(Pro3646)

RETRO CD:UK 2002 5 disc boxset(0927-49499-2) CD:US 2002 promo(PRCD 400073)

JOY DIVISION/NEW ORDER COLLECTION CD:JP 1993 (Polydor DCI3098)

PALATINE ROAD promo CD:FR 1991 (FAC 303)

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a few surprising gaps there murv - no tpk 7", qwest promo with live edit or mention of the coloured inside sleeves on the 12"s... for instance?

& you omitted substance instead adding the cassette & gatefold edition to brotherhood, but still, pretty darn impressive

having the uk set of processions is nice though (now ive got them all)

& see you have got yourself the dat of technique we were talking about earlier now

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Originally posted by Hibster a few surprising gaps there murv - no tpk 7", qwest promo with live edit or mention of the coloured inside sleeves on the 12"s... for instance?

The benelux ones, have had no luck obtaining them, qwest TPK..soon, the TPK sleeves?

As I've just happened across this forum, I'm going to have to post up my list of New Order / Joy Division records tapes and CD/vids - there's some amazing collections put up here!

:)

Right, heres my New Order list......!

1981 Ceremony 12" (blue and white cover) Ceremony 7" Procession 7" (red print cover) Procession (Import) 12" EP Movement LP (original version) Movement CD (centerdate issue)

1982 Temptation/Hurt 12" Temptation 7" 1981-82 Mini LP (Canadian) 12"

1983 Blue Monday/The Beach 12" Power Corruption & Lies LP (original issue) Power Corruption & Lies cassette (Fact US 12 issue - with Blue Monday & The Beach) Power Corruption & Lies CD (centerdate issue) Confusion 12"

1984 Thieves Like Us 12" Murder 12"

1985 The Perfect Kiss 12" Subculture 12" Low Life LP (original with tracing sleeve) Low Life Cassette (with Fac 123 tracks included) Low Life CD (Centerdate issue) Subculture (Record Mirror mix as featured on 7" EP with other tracks by Depeche Mode, LL Cool J, and Beastie Boys)

1986 Shellshock 12" Shellshock 7" State Of The Nation 12" State Of The Nation 7" Brotherhood LP (original issue) Brotherhood Cassete (White box) Brotherhood CD (Centerdate issue) Bizarre Love Triangle 12" Bizarre Love Triangle 7"

1987 Substance LP (original issue) Substance CD (Rough Trade issue) True Faith 12" True Faith remix 12" Touched BY The Hand of God 12"

1988 Blue Monday 1988 remix 12" Fine Time 12" Fine Time 7"

1989 Technique LP (original) Technique cassette Technique CD (Rough Trade issue) Round & Round 12" Round & Remix 12" Run 12"

1990 World In Motion 12"

1993 Regret 12" Regret CD Republic LP Republic CD Ruined In a Day 12" Ruined In A Day CD1 World Price Of Love 12" World Price of Love CD1/2 Spooky 12' Spooky CD1/2

1994 The Best Of New Order CD

1995 Nineteen63 CD (box edition with Let's Go) The Rest Of New Order CD (with Blue Monday '95 7-track bonus CD)

1997 The Complete Peel Sessions CD

2001 Crystal CD1/2 60 Miles an Hour CD1/2 Get Ready CD

2002 Here To Stay CD1/2 24 Hour Party People soundtrack CD

hi you lightweights!!!!!!!!!!! although i do not have any vinyl.i probably have the most up to date and complete cd collection of new order and their side projects out of most of you (although there is always someone who will say they have more!!!) i do have quite many rareities but there are still a few i need to truly be the ultimate new order/associated collecting supremo fanatic. i couldnt possibly list all my cds(some tapes too)i would be here all week! but i would say that i have 200+cds and tapes!!!!!!!!!!!! steve smith,barnsley,uk ;);)")

Go on Steve - list them all - I challenge you - after all, there's always someone else who may be all too happy to do that if you won't!

I've just remembered that I forgot to include the Joy Division stuff in my list! :D

Oh yes, another thing....what's with the complete lack of vinyl in your collection - Do you not like good old black plastic....? ;)

Originally posted by steve smith hi you lightweights!!!!!!!!!!!although i do not have any vinyl.i probably have the most up to date and complete cd collection of new order and their side projects out of most of you (although there is always someone who will say they have more!!!)i do have quite many rareities but there are still a few i need to truly be the ultimate new order/associated collecting supremo fanatic.i couldnt possibly list all my cds(some tapes too)i would be here all week!but i would say that i have 200+cds and tapes!!!!!!!!!!!!steve smith,barnsley,uk;);)")

A bold statement, however i fear your bravado will be short lived....

And having no vinyl is a cardinal sin

Originally posted by steve smith hi you lightweights!!!!!!!!!!!although i do not have any vinyl.i probably have the most up to date and complete cd collection of new order and their side projects out of most of you (although there is always someone who will say they have more!!!)i do have quite many rareities but there are still a few i need to truly be the ultimate new order/associated collecting supremo fanatic.i couldnt possibly list all my cds(some tapes too)i would be here all week!but i would say that i have 200+cds and tapes!!!!!!!!!!!!steve smith,barnsley,uk;);)")

Wot:\peek: no Vinyl? Beer mats only?

That was the very same point I was making - how can anyone be such a huge collector of New Order artefacts and yet not possess any vinyl! That is a criminal oversight on par with saying you love your favourite band with a passion but don't even know who the actual members are!!

Most mysterious! ;)

I don't profess to own every single record they ever did, but then I only started listening to them properly after the Madchester scene took off....

these are the singles and albums I have collected to date. Obviously I'm now trying to get hold of as much as I can - especially the rare Factory records cassette editions of their early albums.

NEW ORDER Singles: Ceremony 7" Temptation 12" Confusion 12" Thieves Like Us 12" The Perfect Kiss 12" Bizarre Love Triangle 12" True Faith 12" Touched By The Hand Of God 12" Blue Monday 1988 12" Fine Time 12" Round & Round 12" World In Motion 12" Regret 12" and CD World 12" and CD Crystal CD1 and 2 Here To Stay CD1 and 2

Albums: Power Corruption and Lies LP Brotherhood CD Low Life CD Substance CD Technique LP and CD Republic CD Best Of CD Live in Glastonbury 1987 CD Peel Sessions CD

Video: NewOrder Story VHS

JOY DIVISION Singles: Atmosphere 1988 12" Love Will Tear us Apart 12" and CD (1995)

Albums: Unknown Pleasure CD Closer CD Substance 1977-80 CD Permanent CD

That's about it so far.

Oh - and if we are allowed to add the New Order side projects, then I have the following too:

ELECTRONIC Singles: Get The Message 12" Feel Every Beat 12" Forbidden City CD For You CD Vivid CD

Albums: Electronic CD Raise The Pressure CD Twisted Tenderness CD

MONACO Singles: What Do You Want From Me CD

Albums: Music For Pleasure CD

THE OTHER TWO: Single: Selfish CD

Album: Other Two and You CD

Originally posted by Murv > Originally posted by Hibster a few surprising gaps there murv - no tpk 7", qwest promo with live edit or mention of the coloured inside sleeves on the 12"s... for instance?

The benelux ones, have had no luck obtaining them, qwest TPK..soon, the TPK sleeves?

yeah the inside sleeves were different colours - i put a thread about it a few weeks/months back when i found out about it

check my colletion earlier in this thread for some of the colours....

saved you the bother - i have cyan, blue, black & crimson

believe there is also a yellow one

Originally posted by Hibster saved you the bother - i have cyan, blue, black & crimsonbelieve there is also a yellow one

My UK 12" TPK has a crimsonish inner sleeve, I didnt realise there were others...are they only on the UK issues? Also Mr Hibster, do you know the cat. nos of the US 7" promo with the reqd mix/ live track.Ta

Originally posted by Hibster saved you the bother - i have cyan, blue, black & crimsonbelieve there is also a yellow one

I got the yellow one! But I NEVER knew there was a BLACK sleeve!

the us promo is a 12" not sure if the 7" has a live mix - bound to be on the discography of here or the other site

Murv, the Video version of TPK is available on the Qwest 12" promo PRO-A-2342

It's an edit of the version used in the vid. The one on Retro is a full version, but not the actual version used in the promo.

from the discogrpahy here US 12" Promo (Qwest PRO-A-2342)

thats the one you want.

incidentally did you know the german sleeve of tpk has the lettering in a gold/bronze colour printed on instead of embossed like the rest of the world?

Originally posted by Hibster from the discogrpahy hereUS 12" Promo (Qwest PRO-A-2342)thats the one you want.incidentally did you know the german sleeve of tpk has the lettering in a gold/bronze colour printed on instead of embossed like the rest of the world?

A world of info...Good on ya Hibster and Old Blue

Just a question - Has anyone here got a copy of the Academy live VHS video (Brixton, 1988) which was withdrawn for some reason because of the sleeve design? How rare is this item? I've been on the trail of it for absolutely ages.

:)

Originally posted by Chris Campbell That was the very same point I was making - how can anyone be such a huge collector of New Order artefacts and yet not possess any vinyl! That is a criminal oversight on par with saying you love your favourite band with a passion but don't even know who the actual members are!!Most mysterious! ;)

wahey, i knew my post would evoke the stirring of passions in all you vinyl puritans out there! i DO have a lot of rare cds of new order and their side projects. i DONT collect vinyl. the reason for this is simple,A, i find it too expensiove to collect.B, most of the covers are dog eared and the vinyl is usually scratched to bits. C, I DONT HAVE A RECORD PLAYER !.D, finally ,i only got into new order when i was about 17 and sadly the age of cd was upon us it was simply easier to collect the cds! and lastly but not leastly, my friend has most of the vinyl that new order and their side projects have ever done and has transferred everthing onto cd from the vinyl for me!!!!!! sorry if i upset you with my post,it was meant to cause friction amongst the vinyl puritans! yours is the only reply to the post i originally posted that i have read . i"m off to check the others out now to see how theyve slagged me off too! kind regards. steve smith,uk :):(:)

Whaaaat?! No N.O. vinyl?????

Originally posted by steve smith > > I DONT HAVE A RECORD PLAYER !.

Good God young man! And there I was about to lecture everyone on the relative merits of the original Factory Wax Cylinder Gramophone!!

Please do yourself a favour - get hold of at least a cheap turntable (even something by Chad Valley will do), a stylus, and some beautiful sexy luscious black 12" plastic - and FEEL the difference of the sound of New Order pulsating through your veins. It really IS that sensational, believe me.... ;)

Originally posted by Chris Campbell Just a question - Has anyone here got a copy of the Academy live VHS video (Brixton, 1988) which was withdrawn for some reason because of the sleeve design? How rare is this item? I've been on the trail of it for absolutely ages.:)

Your search for this particular artefact could well be in vain, I don't have it either but I believe the original issue was pulled cos the sleeve image infringed copyright of some sort or other. Either that or something unofficial wasn't cleared. (Rocket Mick or one of the other knowledgable types here may be able to fill you in on this cos I'm not 100% certain). Needless to say, the first print is probably now as rare as rocking horse shit.....

Originally posted by Mark The Macc > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> Just a question - Has anyone here got a copy of the Academy live VHS video (Brixton, 1988) which was withdrawn for some reason because of the sleeve design? How rare is this item? I've been on the trail of it for absolutely ages.> > :)

Your search for this particular artefact could well be in vain, I don't have it either but I believe the original issue was pulled cos the sleeve image infringed copyright of some sort or other. Either that or something unofficial wasn't cleared. (Rocket Mick or one of the other knowledgable types here may be able to fill you in on this cos I'm not 100% certain). Needless to say, the first print is probably now as rare as rocking horse shit.....

Yes i have this...quite a nice cover.If you want i will scan it and send you a PRINTED copy.I don't think it is THAT rare because it was out for a long time before being withdrawn.

I don't think they had permission to use the statue picture, or something.

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by Mark The Macc> > > > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> > Just a question - Has anyone here got a copy of the Academy live VHS video (Brixton, 1988) which was withdrawn for some reason because of the sleeve design? How rare is this item? I've been on the trail of it for absolutely ages.> > > > :)>

Your search for this particular artefact could well be in vain, I don't have it either but I believe the original issue was pulled cos the sleeve image infringed copyright of some sort or other. Either that or something unofficial wasn't cleared. (Rocket Mick or one of the other knowledgable types here may be able to fill you in on this cos I'm not 100% certain). Needless to say, the first print is probably now as rare as rocking horse shit.....

Yes i have this...quite a nice cover.If you want i will scan it and send you a PRINTED copy.I don't think it is THAT rare because it was out for a long time before being withdrawn.

WELL done there that man Rockster! I knew I could count on you to chip in here with your reliable words..! :D

Originally posted by Old Blue I don't think they had permission to use the statue picture, or something.

Thanks for posting this one up OB - great stuff....I'd long forgotten what the cover looked like all this time. As for the statue - I wonder whether Peter Saville was caught trying to get in to the Louvre without actually paying..... perhaps that's the real reason why they withdrew this cover - cos of "breach of admission rights".... ;)

Some omissions to the New Order list I put up earlier, then the Joy Division records I mentioned I would add.

1988 Peel Sessions vinyl LP

1994 The Best Of New Order (double vinyl LP)

JOY DIVISION:

1979 Unknown Pleasures LP (Factory records) Unknown Pleasure CD (Centerdate re-issue) Transmission 12" (Factory Benelux )

1980 Love Will Tear Us Apart 12" and 7" (originals) Closer LP (Rough Trade/Factory) Closer CD (Centerdate re-issue) Atmosphere 12" (original)

1981 Still (reissue of vinyl double LP) Still CD (Centerdate issue)

1987 Peel Sessions 12"

1988 Substance LP (original) Substance CD (original) Atmosphere 12" and 7" re-isues

1994 Permanent LP and CD Love Will Tear Us Apart 12" and CD (reissue and new mixes)

1997 Heart and Soul Box Set (4 CDS) Peel Sessions CD reissue.

For the benefit of this thread I'll just add the Blue inner-sleeved version of the Perfect Kiss 12" I picked up in Nottingham for £4.50 a few weeks ago and mentioned elsewhere....

All this talk of recent compilations prompts me to wonder why they couldn't have released all the original 12-inchers that weren't on CD in the first place - but in sleeves with original artwork just like the vinyl versions. I'msure a lot of collectors would welcome such a package. Instead we had to make do with Retro, which wasn't by anymeans the most comprehensive collection and duplicated a lot of tracks (like Perfect Kiss album edit) that had already existed many times before.

Originally posted by Confusion & Murder in Paradise Whaaaat?! No N.O. vinyl?????

stop the press!!!!!!!!!! i"ve just bought some vinyl!!!!!!!! i WAS SHAMED INTO THIS!!!!!!!!!!! i"ve just bought true faith7,round and round7,and an electronic7" ! who knows i may even buy a record player/gramophone type thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! steve smith,uk :):):):):):):)

Originally posted by Chris Campbell Go on Steve - list them all - I challenge you - after all, there's always someone else who may be all too happy to do that if you won't!I've just remembered that I forgot to include the Joy Division stuff in my list! :D

your chellenge is accepted! i"m afraid it"s pistols at dawn for you young man! AND I"VE BOUGHT SOME VINYL! I will list all my cds(or as murv calls them beermats!) within the next few weeks! steve smith,barnsley,uk :):):):):):)

I have a neat little collection (not too big however) of exclusive Factory promo vinyl that a good friend of mine managed to help secure for me .... there are bands other than New Order amongst the number - people like Quando Quango, Biting Tongues, the Railway Children, Life, A Certain Ratio, The Wake, Happy Mondays, Marcel King and Miaow.

Of the New Order stuff, I have a white label of their "Substance" double album and - as far as i can remember (most of my collection sits back at my parents home in Dorset!!) a one-sided promo of "Run 2" which I believe is extremely rare.

I'll put up the rest of the items at a later point if I can remember.

Cheers,

— Phillip .

All below are Australian releases __________________________________________ JOY DIVISION - ALBUMS 1988: Substance CD

JOY DIVISION - COMPILATIONS 2002: Heart & Soul Box Set __________________________________________ NEW ORDER - ALBUMS 1983: Power, Corruption & Lies CD 1985: Low-Life CD 1986: Brotherhood CD 1989: Technique CD 1993: Republic CD 2001: Get Ready CD

NEW ORDER - SINGLES 2001: 60 Miles An Hour CD 2002: Here To Stay CD

NEW ORDER - COMPILATIONS 1987: Substance CD 1994: (the best of) CD 1995: (the rest of) CD 2003: Retro Box Set (inc Bonus Disc 5)

NEW ORDER - OTHER 1982: The John Peel Sessions CD 2002: 316 DVD 2003: 511 DVD __________________________________________ ELECTRONIC - ALBUMS 1991: Electronic 1996: Raise The Pressure 1999: Twisted Tenderness __________________________________________ WHERE DID I BUY ALL THIS? All Stores in Canberra, ACT, Australia Music Shop: 4 JB Hi-Fi: 4 Impact Records: 4 Sanity: 3 Revolution: 3 Dick Smith Electronics: 2

Originally posted by Mark The Macc > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> Just a question - Has anyone here got a copy of the Academy live VHS video (Brixton, 1988) which was withdrawn for some reason because of the sleeve design? How rare is this item? I've been on the trail of it for absolutely ages.> > :)

Your search for this particular artefact could well be in vain, I don't have it either but I believe the original issue was pulled cos the sleeve image infringed copyright of some sort or other. Either that or something unofficial wasn't cleared. (Rocket Mick or one of the other knowledgable types here may be able to fill you in on this cos I'm not 100% certain). Needless to say, the first print is probably now as rare as rocking horse shit.....

I believe it was withdrawn as although it fited in with the other stuff of that era in teerms of featuring statues it was not actually designed by peter saville (will have to check sleeve when get home) & they decided they just didnt like it

it was available from virgin(or hmv - forget which) with an free t-shirt - i didnt get mine there so didnt get the t, but dont know if anyone else has one...

it still turns up on e-bay fairly frequently sop point your browser in that direction...

Originally posted by Hibster > Originally posted by Mark The Macc> > > > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> > Just a question - Has anyone here got a copy of the Academy live VHS video (Brixton, 1988) which was withdrawn for some reason because of the sleeve design? How rare is this item? I've been on the trail of it for absolutely ages.> > > > :)>

Your search for this particular artefact could well be in vain, I don't have it either but I believe the original issue was pulled cos the sleeve image infringed copyright of some sort or other. Either that or something unofficial wasn't cleared. (Rocket Mick or one of the other knowledgable types here may be able to fill you in on this cos I'm not 100% certain). Needless to say, the first print is probably now as rare as rocking horse shit.....

I believe it was withdrawn as although it fited in with the other stuff of that era in teerms of featuring statues it was not actually designed by peter saville (will have to check sleeve when get home) & they decided they just didnt like it

it was available from virgin(or hmv - forget which) with an free t-shirt - i didnt get mine there so didnt get the t, but dont know if anyone else has one...

it still turns up on e-bay fairly frequently sop point your browser in that direction...

Aaaaahhhh, I see where you're coming from now Hibs... upon examining the sleeve art just put up on this thread earlier I also noticed that there appears to be a slight imperfection with regard to both the positioning and style of the typography below the picture of the Venus de Milo.... that's something I'm sure Peter Saville would never be so churlish to overlook what with his monumental attention to detail. Come to think of it, it DOES look like it was rather hastily cobbled together. And that's coming from someone who genuinely knows NOTHING about actual graphic design! :)

Originally posted by D_B_ All this talk of recent compilations prompts me to wonder why they couldn't have released all the original 12-inchers that weren't on CD in the first place - but in sleeves with original artwork just like the vinyl versions.I'msure a lot of collectors would welcome such a package. Instead we had to make do with Retro, which wasn't by anymeans the most comprehensive collection and duplicated a lot of tracks (like Perfect Kiss album edit) that had already existed many times before.

I've noticed that there have been a number of threads that have been started discussing this very subject - about the best way to repackage the early New Order 12" and 7" singles - but the controversy surrounding the recent Retro release seems to have rendered the whole debate even more chaotic than it already was.

Originally posted by steve smith your chellenge is accepted!i"m afraid it"s pistols at dawn for you young man!AND I"VE BOUGHT SOME VINYL!I will list all my cds(or as murv calls them beermats!)within the next few weeks!steve smith,barnsley,uk:):):):):):)

Glad to hear you got some vinyl at last! Looking forward to seeing your huge list of rare CDs then Steve... ;)

Originally posted by Chris Campbell > Originally posted by steve smith> > your chellenge is accepted!> i"m afraid it"s pistols at dawn for you young man!> AND I"VE BOUGHT SOME VINYL!> I will list all my cds(or as murv calls them beermats!)> within the next few weeks!> steve smith,barnsley,uk> :):):):):):)>

Glad to hear you got some vinyl at last! Looking forward to seeing your huge list of rare CDs then Steve... ;)

my list is ever growing mate,i"ve spent £100 in the last few weeks alone. in all honesty i think i"ve bitten a bit more than i can chew,cataloging them is a nightmare1 but i will get there so keep watching! steve smith,barnsley,uk :)

WHAT I want to know is - how many different versions of everyone's party favourite "World In Motion" have you got, Stevie? ;)

Originally posted by steve smith > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> Go on Steve - list them all - I challenge you - after all, there's always someone else who may be all too happy to do that if you won't!> > I've just remembered that I forgot to include the Joy Division stuff in my list! :D

your chellenge is accepted! i"m afraid it"s pistols at dawn for you young man! AND I"VE BOUGHT SOME VINYL! I will list all my cds(or as murv calls them beermats!) within the next few weeks! steve smith,barnsley,uk :):):):):):)

I`m also looking forward to seeing your rare CD collection, only kidding about the beermats comment.

Originally posted by Mark LaMacq WHAT I want to know is - how many different versions of everyone's party favourite "World In Motion" have you got, Stevie? ;)

off the top of my head 5/6 still waiting to get the jap cd3. keep watching though ,hopefully i"ll update my list and post it this weekend. steve :)

Originally posted by Chris Campbell Go on Steve - list them all - I challenge you - after all, there's always someone else who may be all too happy to do that if you won't!I've just remembered that I forgot to include the Joy Division stuff in my list! :D

right then here we go! this is my list,i"ll have to keep editing & updating due to lack of time. i started my collection about 15 years ago but didnt really bother with imports or promos . my interest in promos started when a friends sister managed to get me a copy of the get ready promo when she lived in london. this was only last november.i"ve bought loads since then! here we go! joy division/warsaw cd singles. no good for me 3" austrian sconic incubation 3" austrian sconic inside the line 3"austrian sconic atmosphere cd5 factory atmosphere cd5 polygram/can love will tear us apart centerdate/lon

joy division/warsaw albums

warsaw cd5 mpg/portugese unknown pleasures cd5 centerdate/lon closer cd5 lon still cd5 lon substance cd5 lon peel sessions cd5 sfruit permanent c london preston cd nmc les bains douches alchemy heart & soul(4cd) cd5 london remains cd5 ?

joy division vids

substance-copy here are the young men joy division posters

manchester/steel fence pic love will tear us apart -repro closer -repro

new order albums

movement cd5 fac power corruption & lies cd5 fac low-life cd5 fac brotherhood cd5 fac substance cd5 fac substance cd5 qwest technique cd5 fac republic cd5 lon republic"orange dayglo)" qwest the best of cd5 london the best of cd5 qwest the rest of 2cd cd5 lon the rest of cd5 lon get ready cd5 lon get ready(jap) cd5 wea international cd5 lon
international(+dvd)cd5 rhino back to mine cd5 dmc peel sessions cd5 sfruit R1live in concert cd5 windsong before & after(2cd)cd5 fuel
a tribute to cd5 cleopatra blue order cd5 hypnotic the remix cd5 on it 24 hr pp cd5 london retro cd5 london 20 years of cd5 reprise

new order singles

touched by the hand of god cd5 fac true faith cd5 fac true faith cdv fac blue monday 88 cd5 fac blue monday 88 cdv fac blue monday 95 cd5 lon blue monday 95 cd5 """/german bizarre love triangle cd5 qwest fine time cd5 fac round & round cd5 fac round & remix cd3 fac round & remix cd3 r- trade/ger world in motion cd5 fact/mca world in motion cd5 qwest world in motion cd5 london/mca world in motion cd3 rough trade/ger regret cd5 lon regret us maxi cd5 qwest ruined in a day 2cd limited lon world 2cd limited lon spooky 2cd limited lon true faith 94 cd5 lon 1963-95 (white 2cd box) lon crystal pt1 cd5 lon crystal pt2 cd5 lon crystal pt3 dvd lon 60mph pt1 cd5 lon 60mph pt2 cd5 lon 60mph pt3 dvd lon 60mph tour ep cd5 lon/aus here to stay pt1 cd5 lon here to stay pt2 cd5 lon here to stay pt3 dvd lon confusion cd5 whacked

new order promos

20 years of new order reprise back to mine full album cd5 dmc 24hr pp cdr lon get ready cd5 lon/nopro1 international cd5 lon/germ retro cdr lon retro bonus cdr lon blue monday 88 cd5 qwest/us true faith cd5 qwest/us bizzare love trianglecd5 qwest/us regret cd5 lon/nuocd1 ruined in a day cd5 cdj2 world cd5 cdj3 spooky cd5 cdj4 true faith 94 cd5 newcdj5 1963-95 cd5 nuocdj6 blue monday-95 cd5 ncdj7 crystal cd5 ncdj8 crystal cd5 reprise/pro100733 60mph cd5 ncdj9 here to stay cd5 ncdj11 world in motion cdr lon here to stay cdr lon confusion cdr lon run wild cdr lon brutal cdr lon someone like you cdr lon slow jam cdr aus/lon?

others

extra order cd5 reprise-promo in order cd5 qwest everthings gone factbenelux/austrian 81-82/fep313 cd5 fact/polygram video 586 cd5/maxi touch tone 7 newspeak cd5/interview holoview interview cd5 reprise

new order vids/dvds

play at home vhs mtv-new order special mtv-montreux-full set taras shevchenko pumped full of drugs brixton -black sleeve brixton -statue sleeve substance 89 neworder story best of 316 511 24hour pp

new order memorabilia

laminated tour "style" pass substance poster (sold) best of poster(sold|) low-life poster ruined in a day poster

electronic albums

electronic-self titled cd5 fact raise the pressure cd5 parl twisted tenderness cd5 parl twisted tenderness cd5us/? remixed bootleg interview cd5 evans4

electronicsingles

getting away with it cd5 fac getting away with it cd5 warner/us get the message cd5 fac get the message cd5 warner/us feel every beat cd5 fac feel every beat cd5 warner/us dissapointed cd5 parl dissapointed cd5 warner/us dissapointed cd5 virgin/ger until the end of timecd5 parl/emicdrdj6483 forbidden city cd5 parl for you pt1 cd5 parl for you pt2 cd5 parl second nature pt1 cd5 parl second nature pt2 cd5 parl vivid pt1 cd5 parl vivid pt2 cd5 parl late at night pt1 cd5 parl late at night pt2 cd5 parl late at night euro cd5 parl

electronic promos

forbidden city cdrdj6436 for you cdrdj6445 second nature cdrdj6455 vivid cdrdj6514 (2 copies) late at night cdrdj6519

electronic album promos

raise the pressure cdpcsdj7382 twisted tenderness sampler twisteddj01 twisted tenderness cdlrl003 twisted tenderness cdlrl005 twisted tenderness cdr promo

electronic memorabilia/etc

dissapointed promo poster-official parlophone poster-MEGA rare

monaco albums music for pleasure cd5 polydor monaco s/t cd5 papillion

monaco singles

what do you want from me? cd5 polydor sweet lips pt1 cd5 polydor sweet lips cd5 polydor2copies shine cd5 polydor ive got a feeling cdv roadrunner,mega rare cdv /cd rom track!

monaco promos

sweet lips sweet1 shine lc0309 ive got a feeling btrad004

monaco album promos

music for pleasure monac1

revenge album

one true passion cd5 fact

revenge singles

gun world porn cd5 fact 7 reasons cd5 fact pinapple face cd5 fact slave cd5 fact slave cd3 fact/ger

revenge promos

pinapple face cd5 capitol/us

the other two albums

the other two & you cd5 london ,v rare silver sleeve cd super highways cd5 london

the other two singles

tasty fish cd5 factory selfish cd5 london super highways cd5 london LOVED IT-THE OTHER TRACK-CD5 FACTORY

the other two promo singles super highways twcdj3 you can fly twcdj2

the other two album promos

super highways cdr london vinyl new order-round &round 7 new order true faith 7 electronic getting away with it 7

TAPES joy division substance lon still lon unknown pleasures lon closer lon peel sessions strange fruit permanent lon love will tear us apart lon

NEW ORDER TAPES movement lon power corruption & lies lon low-life- lon brotherhood lon substance lon technique lon republic lon rest of limited 2 tapes lon regret lon ruined in a day lon world lon spooky lon true faith 94 lon 1963-95 lon blue monday 95 lon live in concert bbc/ peel sessions

ELECTRONIC electronic fac getting away with it fac get the message fac

CDRS - 8 ,COPIED DIRECTLY FROM VINYL

MP3"S 2 with all the b-sides,directly from vinyl 1 with all the different remixes

WOW THATS IT,I THINK! i"ll keep editing as i add items. MY WANTS LIST the other two, you can fly parts 1 & 2 loved it the other track(GOT IT!!!!!) new order touched by the hand of god cd3 jap blue monday 88 cd3 jap round & round us promo cd5 qwest fine time us promo cd5 qwest a new order sampler- london any cd3s

i think thats it. i hope the doubting thomases are looking! you know who you are! if i"ve missed anything then let me know. thanks for looking! regards steve smith,beermatville,barnsley,uk :)

My collection's pathetic compared to what some of you lot have! *hangs head in shame* Here's what I've got:

NO: PC&L Low-Life Brotherhood Technique Republic Get Ready Substance Here To Stay Crystal (all on CD)

Electronic: All three albums (all on CD)

DVDs: 316 511 (Finsbury Park)

Others: Uncut magazine article (don't know what issue it was but NO were on the cover; I got it off the Net)

Blimey Steven, that's a pretty formidable list of magic beermats you have there!

Talking of MOST DESIRABLE items what I would have loved to have had was the flip book used in the Blue Monday 1988 video.

Or the dog - now she was an absolute star! (What was her name - does anyone know?) By the way, do you like the pic of my dog Checkers here?? ;)

Originally posted by Blue nail varnish? Black eyeliner? Get away!! Blimey Steven, that's a pretty formidable list of magic beermats you have there!Talking of MOST DESIRABLE items what I would have loved to have had was the flip book used in the Blue Monday 1988 video.Or the dog - now she was an absolute star! (What was her name - does anyone know?) By the way, do you like the pic of my dog Checkers here?? ;)

mmm,lovely! i havent finished listing my "beermats " yet. as for the flickbook,look in buy/sell/trade i"m sure i"ve seen one there! steve smith- location-beermat king,uk :)

She's a beauty isn't she? :)

Thanks for the tip - I wasn't sure if these things (flickbooks) were still being offered to collectors at ridiculous prices.... never ever thought to look in that part of the site - cheers.

hi everyone, i"ve just listed all my beermats above,sorry cd"s have a look further back up the page! steve smith :)

An impressive collection Steve. Been after that Slow Jam cdr aus/lon? for yonks, lost out to the sultan on ebay. No TBTHOG Jap 3" cd in your listing I notice.

Originally posted by Blue nail varnish? Black eyeliner? Get away!! Or the dog - now she was an absolute star! (What was her name - does anyone know?)

Fay Wray.

Originally posted by Murv An impressive collection Steve.Been after that Slow Jam cdr aus/lon? for yonks, lost out to the sultan on ebay. No TBTHOG Jap 3" cd in your listing I notice.

i"m still trying to get it,i keep losing on ebay,i WILL get it! its also in my want list at the bottom of my cd collection in the post i added earlier. :)

Originally posted by Chris Campbell Go on Steve - list them all - I challenge you - after all, there's always someone else who may be all too happy to do that if you won't!I've just remembered that I forgot to include the Joy Division stuff in my list! :D

WELL HI THERE CHRISSY BOY, DID YOU HAVE A LOOK ? OR HAVE YOU GONE SHY? TELL ME AM I VINDICATED? HAVE A LOOK FURTHER UP THIS PAGE AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK! OOPS,JUST REMEMBERED ,I FORGOT TO ADD MY CASSETTES! STEVE SMITH,BEERMAT KING,BARNSLEY,UK :)

What can I say??

Is that just part 1 and 2 (of 10)???

You have a cool mutt there, Blue Nail Varnish guy...... :)

Originally posted by Chris Campbell What can I say??Is that just part 1 and 2 (of 10)???

its not finished yet , got to put my tapes and cdr"s down and a few mp3s ! i"ll keep updating as i collect. i WONDER if anyone else has as many,mmmm? steve smith,beermat king, thats kind of a cool name isnt it? steve :);)

Originally posted by Old Blue Fay Wray.

I didn't know that! Are you sure it wasn't LINK Wray?? ;)

it is on the faq....

Originally posted by Chris Campbell You have a cool mutt there, Blue Nail Varnish guy...... :)

Hey thanks there CC!! I'm sure Checkers would think highly of you too! ;)

A he or a she?

What's it's age? ;)

Originally posted by steve smith > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> Go on Steve - list them all - I challenge you - after all, there's always someone else who may be all too happy to do that if you won't!> > I've just remembered that I forgot to include the Joy Division stuff in my list! :D

right then here we go! this is my list,i"ll have to keep editing & updating due to lack of time. i started my collection about 15 years ago but didnt really bother with imports or promos . my interest in promos started when a friends sister managed to get me a copy of the get ready promo when she lived in london. this was only last november.i"ve bought loads since then! here we go! joy division/warsaw cd singles. no good for me 3" austrian sconic incubation 3" austrian sconic inside the line 3"austrian sconic atmosphere cd5 factory atmosphere cd5 polygram/can love will tear us apart centerdate/lon

joy division/warsaw albums

warsaw cd5 mpg/portugese unknown pleasures cd5 centerdate/lon closer cd5 lon still cd5 lon substance cd5 lon peel sessions cd5 sfruit permanent c london preston cd nmc les bains douches alchemy heart & soul(4cd) cd5 london remains cd5 ?

joy division vids

substance-copy here are the young men joy division posters

manchester/steel fence pic love will tear us apart -repro closer -repro

new order albums

movement cd5 fac power corruption & lies cd5 fac low-life cd5 fac brotherhood cd5 fac substance cd5 fac substance cd5 qwest technique cd5 fac republic cd5 lon republic"orange dayglo)" qwest the best of cd5 london the best of cd5 qwest the rest of 2cd cd5 lon the rest of cd5 lon get ready cd5 lon get ready(jap) cd5 wea international cd5 lon
international(+dvd)cd5 rhino back to mine cd5 dmc peel sessions cd5 sfruit R1live in concert cd5 windsong before & after(2cd)cd5 fuel
a tribute to cd5 cleopatra blue order cd5 hypnotic the remix cd5 on it 24 hr pp cd5 london retro cd5 london 20 years of cd5 reprise

new order singles

touched by the hand of god cd5 fac true faith cd5 fac true faith cdv fac blue monday 88 cd5 fac blue monday 88 cdv fac blue monday 95 cd5 lon blue monday 95 cd5 """/german bizarre love triangle cd5 qwest fine time cd5 fac round & round cd5 fac round & remix cd3 fac round & remix cd3 r- trade/ger world in motion cd5 fact/mca world in motion cd5 qwest world in motion cd5 london/mca world in motion cd3 rough trade/ger regret cd5 lon regret us maxi cd5 qwest ruined in a day 2cd limited lon world 2cd limited lon spooky 2cd limited lon true faith 94 cd5 lon 1963-95 (white 2cd box) lon crystal pt1 cd5 lon crystal pt2 cd5 lon crystal pt3 dvd lon 60mph pt1 cd5 lon 60mph pt2 cd5 lon 60mph pt3 dvd lon 60mph tour ep cd5 lon/aus here to stay pt1 cd5 lon here to stay pt2 cd5 lon here to stay pt3 dvd lon confusion cd5 whacked

new order promos

20 years of new order reprise back to mine full album cd5 dmc 24hr pp cdr lon get ready cd5 lon/nopro1 international cd5 lon/germ retro cdr lon retro bonus cdr lon blue monday 88 cd5 qwest/us true faith cd5 qwest/us bizzare love trianglecd5 qwest/us regret cd5 lon/nuocd1 ruined in a day cd5 cdj2 world cd5 cdj3 spooky cd5 cdj4 true faith 94 cd5 newcdj5 1963-95 cd5 nuocdj6 blue monday-95 cd5 ncdj7 crystal cd5 ncdj8 crystal cd5 reprise/pro100733 60mph cd5 ncdj9 here to stay cd5 ncdj11 world in motion cdr lon here to stay cdr lon confusion cdr lon run wild cdr lon brutal cdr lon someone like you cdr lon slow jam cdr aus/lon?

others

extra order cd5 reprise-promo in order cd5 qwest everthings gone factbenelux/austrian 81-82/fep313 cd5 fact/polygram video 586 cd5/maxi touch tone 7 newspeak cd5/interview holoview interview cd5 reprise

new order vids/dvds

play at home vhs mtv-new order special mtv-montreux-full set taras shevchenko pumped full of drugs brixton -black sleeve brixton -statue sleeve substance 89 neworder story best of 316 511 24hour pp

new order memorabilia

laminated tour "style" pass substance poster (sold) best of poster(sold|) low-life poster ruined in a day poster

electronic albums

electronic-self titled cd5 fact raise the pressure cd5 parl twisted tenderness cd5 parl twisted tenderness cd5us/? remixed bootleg interview cd5 evans4

electronicsingles

getting away with it cd5 fac getting away with it cd5 warner/us get the message cd5 fac get the message cd5 warner/us feel every beat cd5 fac feel every beat cd5 warner/us dissapointed cd5 parl dissapointed cd5 warner/us dissapointed cd5 virgin/ger until the end of timecd5 parl/emicdrdj6483 forbidden city cd5 parl for you pt1 cd5 parl for you pt2 cd5 parl second nature pt1 cd5 parl second nature pt2 cd5 parl vivid pt1 cd5 parl vivid pt2 cd5 parl late at night pt1 cd5 parl late at night pt2 cd5 parl late at night euro cd5 parl

electronic promos

forbidden city cdrdj6436 for you cdrdj6445 second nature cdrdj6455 vivid cdrdj6514 (2 copies) late at night cdrdj6519

electronic album promos

raise the pressure cdpcsdj7382 twisted tenderness sampler twisteddj01 twisted tenderness cdlrl003 twisted tenderness cdlrl005

electronic memorabilia/etc

dissapointed promo poster-official parlophone poster-MEGA rare

monaco albums music for pleasure cd5 polydor monaco s/t cd5 papillion

monaco singles

what do you want from me? cd5 polydor sweet lips pt1 cd5 polydor sweet lips cd5 polydor2copies shine cd5 polydor ive got a feeling cdv roadrunner,mega rare cdv /cd rom track!

monaco promos

sweet lips sweet1 shine lc0309 ive got a feeling btrad004

monaco album promos

music for pleasure monac1

revenge album

one true passion cd5 fact

revenge singles

gun world porn cd5 fact 7 reasons cd5 fact pinapple face cd5 fact slave cd5 fact slave cd3 fact/ger

revenge promos

pinapple face cd5 capitol/us

the other two albums

the other two & you cd5 london ,v rare silver sleeve cd super highways cd5 london

the other two singles

tasty fish cd5 factory selfish cd5 london super highways cd5 london

the other two promo singles super highways twcdj3 you can fly twcdj2

the other two album promos

super highways cdr london vinyl new order-round &round 7 new order true faith 7 electronic getting away with it 7

TAPES joy division substance lon still lon unknown pleasures lon closer lon peel sessions strange fruit permanent lon love will tear us apart lon

NEW ORDER TAPES movement lon power corruption & lies lon low-life- lon brotherhood lon substance lon technique lon republic lon rest of limited 2 tapes lon regret lon ruined in a day lon world lon spooky lon true faith 94 lon 1963-95 lon blue monday 95 lon live in concert bbc/ peel sessions

ELECTRONIC electronic fac getting away with it fac get the message fac

CDRS - 8 ,COPIED DIRECTLY FROM VINYL

MP3"S 2 with all the b-sides,directly from vinyl 1 with all the different remixes

WOW THATS IT,I THINK! i"ll keep editing as i add items. MY WANTS LIST the other two, you can fly parts 1 & 2 loved it the other track new order touched by the hand of god cd3 jap blue monday 88 cd3 jap round & round us promo cd5 qwest fine time us promo cd5 qwest a new order sampler- london any cd3s

i think thats it. i hope the doubting thomases are looking! you know who you are! if i"ve missed anything then let me know. thanks for looking! regards steve smith,beermatville,barnsley,uk :)

COULD DO BETTER :D

Originally posted by steve smith > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> Go on Steve - list them all - I challenge you - after all, there's always someone else who may be all too happy to do that if you won't!> > I've just remembered that I forgot to include the Joy Division stuff in my list! :D

right then here we go! this is my list,i"ll have to keep editing & updating due to lack of time. i started my collection about 15 years ago but didnt really bother with imports or promos . my interest in promos started when a friends sister managed to get me a copy of the get ready promo when she lived in london. this was only last november.i"ve bought loads since then! here we go! joy division/warsaw cd singles. no good for me 3" austrian sconic incubation 3" austrian sconic inside the line 3"austrian sconic atmosphere cd5 factory atmosphere cd5 polygram/can love will tear us apart centerdate/lon

joy division/warsaw albums

warsaw cd5 mpg/portugese unknown pleasures cd5 centerdate/lon closer cd5 lon still cd5 lon substance cd5 lon peel sessions cd5 sfruit permanent c london preston cd nmc les bains douches alchemy heart & soul(4cd) cd5 london remains cd5 ?

joy division vids

substance-copy here are the young men joy division posters

manchester/steel fence pic love will tear us apart -repro closer -repro

new order albums

movement cd5 fac power corruption & lies cd5 fac low-life cd5 fac brotherhood cd5 fac substance cd5 fac substance cd5 qwest technique cd5 fac republic cd5 lon republic"orange dayglo)" qwest the best of cd5 london the best of cd5 qwest the rest of 2cd cd5 lon the rest of cd5 lon get ready cd5 lon get ready(jap) cd5 wea international cd5 lon
international(+dvd)cd5 rhino back to mine cd5 dmc peel sessions cd5 sfruit R1live in concert cd5 windsong before & after(2cd)cd5 fuel
a tribute to cd5 cleopatra blue order cd5 hypnotic the remix cd5 on it 24 hr pp cd5 london retro cd5 london 20 years of cd5 reprise

new order singles

touched by the hand of god cd5 fac true faith cd5 fac true faith cdv fac blue monday 88 cd5 fac blue monday 88 cdv fac blue monday 95 cd5 lon blue monday 95 cd5 """/german bizarre love triangle cd5 qwest fine time cd5 fac round & round cd5 fac round & remix cd3 fac round & remix cd3 r- trade/ger world in motion cd5 fact/mca world in motion cd5 qwest world in motion cd5 london/mca world in motion cd3 rough trade/ger regret cd5 lon regret us maxi cd5 qwest ruined in a day 2cd limited lon world 2cd limited lon spooky 2cd limited lon true faith 94 cd5 lon 1963-95 (white 2cd box) lon crystal pt1 cd5 lon crystal pt2 cd5 lon crystal pt3 dvd lon 60mph pt1 cd5 lon 60mph pt2 cd5 lon 60mph pt3 dvd lon 60mph tour ep cd5 lon/aus here to stay pt1 cd5 lon here to stay pt2 cd5 lon here to stay pt3 dvd lon confusion cd5 whacked

new order promos

20 years of new order reprise back to mine full album cd5 dmc 24hr pp cdr lon get ready cd5 lon/nopro1 international cd5 lon/germ retro cdr lon retro bonus cdr lon blue monday 88 cd5 qwest/us true faith cd5 qwest/us bizzare love trianglecd5 qwest/us regret cd5 lon/nuocd1 ruined in a day cd5 cdj2 world cd5 cdj3 spooky cd5 cdj4 true faith 94 cd5 newcdj5 1963-95 cd5 nuocdj6 blue monday-95 cd5 ncdj7 crystal cd5 ncdj8 crystal cd5 reprise/pro100733 60mph cd5 ncdj9 here to stay cd5 ncdj11 world in motion cdr lon here to stay cdr lon confusion cdr lon run wild cdr lon brutal cdr lon someone like you cdr lon slow jam cdr aus/lon?

others

extra order cd5 reprise-promo in order cd5 qwest everthings gone factbenelux/austrian 81-82/fep313 cd5 fact/polygram video 586 cd5/maxi touch tone 7 newspeak cd5/interview holoview interview cd5 reprise

new order vids/dvds

play at home vhs mtv-new order special mtv-montreux-full set taras shevchenko pumped full of drugs brixton -black sleeve brixton -statue sleeve substance 89 neworder story best of 316 511 24hour pp

new order memorabilia

laminated tour "style" pass substance poster (sold) best of poster(sold|) low-life poster ruined in a day poster

electronic albums

electronic-self titled cd5 fact raise the pressure cd5 parl twisted tenderness cd5 parl twisted tenderness cd5us/? remixed bootleg interview cd5 evans4

electronicsingles

getting away with it cd5 fac getting away with it cd5 warner/us get the message cd5 fac get the message cd5 warner/us feel every beat cd5 fac feel every beat cd5 warner/us dissapointed cd5 parl dissapointed cd5 warner/us dissapointed cd5 virgin/ger until the end of timecd5 parl/emicdrdj6483 forbidden city cd5 parl for you pt1 cd5 parl for you pt2 cd5 parl second nature pt1 cd5 parl second nature pt2 cd5 parl vivid pt1 cd5 parl vivid pt2 cd5 parl late at night pt1 cd5 parl late at night pt2 cd5 parl late at night euro cd5 parl

electronic promos

forbidden city cdrdj6436 for you cdrdj6445 second nature cdrdj6455 vivid cdrdj6514 (2 copies) late at night cdrdj6519

electronic album promos

raise the pressure cdpcsdj7382 twisted tenderness sampler twisteddj01 twisted tenderness cdlrl003 twisted tenderness cdlrl005

electronic memorabilia/etc

dissapointed promo poster-official parlophone poster-MEGA rare

monaco albums music for pleasure cd5 polydor monaco s/t cd5 papillion

monaco singles

what do you want from me? cd5 polydor sweet lips pt1 cd5 polydor sweet lips cd5 polydor2copies shine cd5 polydor ive got a feeling cdv roadrunner,mega rare cdv /cd rom track!

monaco promos

sweet lips sweet1 shine lc0309 ive got a feeling btrad004

monaco album promos

music for pleasure monac1

revenge album

one true passion cd5 fact

revenge singles

gun world porn cd5 fact 7 reasons cd5 fact pinapple face cd5 fact slave cd5 fact slave cd3 fact/ger

revenge promos

pinapple face cd5 capitol/us

the other two albums

the other two & you cd5 london ,v rare silver sleeve cd super highways cd5 london

the other two singles

tasty fish cd5 factory selfish cd5 london super highways cd5 london

the other two promo singles super highways twcdj3 you can fly twcdj2

the other two album promos

super highways cdr london vinyl new order-round &round 7 new order true faith 7 electronic getting away with it 7

TAPES joy division substance lon still lon unknown pleasures lon closer lon peel sessions strange fruit permanent lon love will tear us apart lon

NEW ORDER TAPES movement lon power corruption & lies lon low-life- lon brotherhood lon substance lon technique lon republic lon rest of limited 2 tapes lon regret lon ruined in a day lon world lon spooky lon true faith 94 lon 1963-95 lon blue monday 95 lon live in concert bbc/ peel sessions

ELECTRONIC electronic fac getting away with it fac get the message fac

CDRS - 8 ,COPIED DIRECTLY FROM VINYL

MP3"S 2 with all the b-sides,directly from vinyl 1 with all the different remixes

WOW THATS IT,I THINK! i"ll keep editing as i add items. MY WANTS LIST the other two, you can fly parts 1 & 2 loved it the other track new order touched by the hand of god cd3 jap blue monday 88 cd3 jap round & round us promo cd5 qwest fine time us promo cd5 qwest a new order sampler- london any cd3s

i think thats it. i hope the doubting thomases are looking! you know who you are! if i"ve missed anything then let me know. thanks for looking! regards steve smith,beermatville,barnsley,uk :)

COULD DO BETTER :D

I HAVE GOT BLUE MONDAY AND SUBSTANCE I HAVE REALLY AMONGST OTHER THINGS WILL PUT A LIST OUT WHEN SOBER OF A LITTLE COLLECTION OF VINYL WHICH I WOULD LIKE AN EXPERT TO GIVE ME A PRICE QUOTE

Originally posted by Chris Campbell A he or a she? What's it's age? ;)

Checker's is a bitch. She's 80 percent Labrador and 20 percent mongrel cross breed. We've had her since she was a puppy - she's 7 years old now. Our other dog, Marbles, is male - 5 years old, an Alsation/ mongrel/ greyhound hybrid.

Anyway - why are we discussing dogs on this thread? What happened to all the record collection talk all of a sudden? :D

Almost forgot all about adding my list here.

Some Factory (New Order-related) items I have include:

SECTION 25 - Looking From A Hilltop (8.06) One-sided Promo (Bernard Sumner production and remix)

REVENGE - Gun World Porn Promo 12" (White label only - no track listing) PIneapple Face / 14K promo 12" White Label

THE OTHER TWO - Movin' On (Withdrawn 1992 Factory 12" single - never issued) The Other Two and You (Withdrawn 1992 Factory Promo LP - plain sleeve with track listing - contains original mixes of the tracks that later appeared on London Records in 1993)

LIFE - Optimism (1985 Factory 12" promo)

HAPPY MONDAYS - Freaky Dancing / The Egg (Bernard Sumner produced) 12" White label Promo with hand-written cardboard sleeve with Fac 142 catalogue number.

NEW ORDER - Round & Round Detroit mixes 12" promo Technique LP Italian issue with special colour insert. Fine Time 12" Marbled vinyl. (either Dutch or Austrian origin) Bizarre Love Triangle metallic fold out sleeve Qwest US release 7" (b/w picture of band in spread) Thieves Like Us 6.37 / Confusion (deconstruction) 8.46 - white label German 12" for clubs only. Substance double album - white label 2x 12" - insert with typed track listing. Identical versions to the finished album. World - Price Of Love (Perfecto Mixes. White label German-pressed 12" in PVC sleeve.) Republic limited CD with orange packaging. Republic box set - special edition containing CD LP and cassette.

BOOKS- Joy Division and New Order - a History in cuttings Volume 1 Joy Division and New Order - a History in cuttings Volume 2

(these were picked up at a record fair in Frankfurt a couple of years ago for DM45.00 for both of them)

VIDEO- Glastonbury 1987. Unknown distributor. Reasonable quality picture despite this being completely unofficial. VHS, total running time 67 minutes approx. Sound is rather muddy particularly during Bizarre Love Triangle, Every Second Counts, Temptation and Your Silent Face

I know a few of these are extremely rare but as I was lucky enough to get hold of them I won't be selling them on, at any price!

Originally posted by Blue nail varnish? Black eyeliner? Get away!! > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> A he or a she? > > What's it's age? ;)

Checker's is a bitch. She's 80 percent Labrador and 20 percent mongrel cross breed. We've had her since she was a puppy - she's 7 years old now. Our other dog, Marbles, is male - 5 years old, an Alsation/ mongrel/ greyhound hybrid.

Anyway - why are we discussing dogs on this thread? What happened to all the record collection talk all of a sudden? :D

Okay, sorry I was so inquisitive! I'll stick to the topic in question in future ;)

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by steve smith> > > > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> > Go on Steve - list them all - I challenge you - after all, there's always someone else who may be all too happy to do that if you won't!> > > > I've just remembered that I forgot to include the Joy Division stuff in my list! :D>

right then here we go! this is my list,i"ll have to keep editing & updating due to lack of time. i started my collection about 15 years ago but didnt really bother with imports or promos . my interest in promos started when a friends sister managed to get me a copy of the get ready promo when she lived in london. this was only last november.i"ve bought loads since then! here we go! joy division/warsaw cd singles. no good for me 3" austrian sconic incubation 3" austrian sconic inside the line 3"austrian sconic atmosphere cd5 factory atmosphere cd5 polygram/can love will tear us apart centerdate/lon

joy division/warsaw albums

warsaw cd5 mpg/portugese unknown pleasures cd5 centerdate/lon closer cd5 lon still cd5 lon substance cd5 lon peel sessions cd5 sfruit permanent c london preston cd nmc les bains douches alchemy heart & soul(4cd) cd5 london remains cd5 ?

joy division vids

substance-copy here are the young men joy division posters

manchester/steel fence pic love will tear us apart -repro closer -repro

new order albums

movement cd5 fac power corruption & lies cd5 fac low-life cd5 fac brotherhood cd5 fac substance cd5 fac substance cd5 qwest technique cd5 fac republic cd5 lon republic"orange dayglo)" qwest the best of cd5 london the best of cd5 qwest the rest of 2cd cd5 lon the rest of cd5 lon get ready cd5 lon get ready(jap) cd5 wea international cd5 lon
international(+dvd)cd5 rhino back to mine cd5 dmc peel sessions cd5 sfruit R1live in concert cd5 windsong before & after(2cd)cd5 fuel
a tribute to cd5 cleopatra blue order cd5 hypnotic the remix cd5 on it 24 hr pp cd5 london retro cd5 london 20 years of cd5 reprise

new order singles

touched by the hand of god cd5 fac true faith cd5 fac true faith cdv fac blue monday 88 cd5 fac blue monday 88 cdv fac blue monday 95 cd5 lon blue monday 95 cd5 """/german bizarre love triangle cd5 qwest fine time cd5 fac round & round cd5 fac round & remix cd3 fac round & remix cd3 r- trade/ger world in motion cd5 fact/mca world in motion cd5 qwest world in motion cd5 london/mca world in motion cd3 rough trade/ger regret cd5 lon regret us maxi cd5 qwest ruined in a day 2cd limited lon world 2cd limited lon spooky 2cd limited lon true faith 94 cd5 lon 1963-95 (white 2cd box) lon crystal pt1 cd5 lon crystal pt2 cd5 lon crystal pt3 dvd lon 60mph pt1 cd5 lon 60mph pt2 cd5 lon 60mph pt3 dvd lon 60mph tour ep cd5 lon/aus here to stay pt1 cd5 lon here to stay pt2 cd5 lon here to stay pt3 dvd lon confusion cd5 whacked

new order promos

20 years of new order reprise back to mine full album cd5 dmc 24hr pp cdr lon get ready cd5 lon/nopro1 international cd5 lon/germ retro cdr lon retro bonus cdr lon blue monday 88 cd5 qwest/us true faith cd5 qwest/us bizzare love trianglecd5 qwest/us regret cd5 lon/nuocd1 ruined in a day cd5 cdj2 world cd5 cdj3 spooky cd5 cdj4 true faith 94 cd5 newcdj5 1963-95 cd5 nuocdj6 blue monday-95 cd5 ncdj7 crystal cd5 ncdj8 crystal cd5 reprise/pro100733 60mph cd5 ncdj9 here to stay cd5 ncdj11 world in motion cdr lon here to stay cdr lon confusion cdr lon run wild cdr lon brutal cdr lon someone like you cdr lon slow jam cdr aus/lon?

others

extra order cd5 reprise-promo in order cd5 qwest everthings gone factbenelux/austrian 81-82/fep313 cd5 fact/polygram video 586 cd5/maxi touch tone 7 newspeak cd5/interview holoview interview cd5 reprise

new order vids/dvds

play at home vhs mtv-new order special mtv-montreux-full set taras shevchenko pumped full of drugs brixton -black sleeve brixton -statue sleeve substance 89 neworder story best of 316 511 24hour pp

new order memorabilia

laminated tour "style" pass substance poster (sold) best of poster(sold|) low-life poster ruined in a day poster

electronic albums

electronic-self titled cd5 fact raise the pressure cd5 parl twisted tenderness cd5 parl twisted tenderness cd5us/? remixed bootleg interview cd5 evans4

electronicsingles

getting away with it cd5 fac getting away with it cd5 warner/us get the message cd5 fac get the message cd5 warner/us feel every beat cd5 fac feel every beat cd5 warner/us dissapointed cd5 parl dissapointed cd5 warner/us dissapointed cd5 virgin/ger until the end of timecd5 parl/emicdrdj6483 forbidden city cd5 parl for you pt1 cd5 parl for you pt2 cd5 parl second nature pt1 cd5 parl second nature pt2 cd5 parl vivid pt1 cd5 parl vivid pt2 cd5 parl late at night pt1 cd5 parl late at night pt2 cd5 parl late at night euro cd5 parl

electronic promos

forbidden city cdrdj6436 for you cdrdj6445 second nature cdrdj6455 vivid cdrdj6514 (2 copies) late at night cdrdj6519

electronic album promos

raise the pressure cdpcsdj7382 twisted tenderness sampler twisteddj01 twisted tenderness cdlrl003 twisted tenderness cdlrl005

electronic memorabilia/etc

dissapointed promo poster-official parlophone poster-MEGA rare

monaco albums music for pleasure cd5 polydor monaco s/t cd5 papillion

monaco singles

what do you want from me? cd5 polydor sweet lips pt1 cd5 polydor sweet lips cd5 polydor2copies shine cd5 polydor ive got a feeling cdv roadrunner,mega rare cdv /cd rom track!

monaco promos

sweet lips sweet1 shine lc0309 ive got a feeling btrad004

monaco album promos

music for pleasure monac1

revenge album

one true passion cd5 fact

revenge singles

gun world porn cd5 fact 7 reasons cd5 fact pinapple face cd5 fact slave cd5 fact slave cd3 fact/ger

revenge promos

pinapple face cd5 capitol/us

the other two albums

the other two & you cd5 london ,v rare silver sleeve cd super highways cd5 london

the other two singles

tasty fish cd5 factory selfish cd5 london super highways cd5 london

the other two promo singles super highways twcdj3 you can fly twcdj2

the other two album promos

super highways cdr london vinyl new order-round &round 7 new order true faith 7 electronic getting away with it 7

TAPES joy division substance lon still lon unknown pleasures lon closer lon peel sessions strange fruit permanent lon love will tear us apart lon

NEW ORDER TAPES movement lon power corruption & lies lon low-life- lon brotherhood lon substance lon technique lon republic lon rest of limited 2 tapes lon regret lon ruined in a day lon world lon spooky lon true faith 94 lon 1963-95 lon blue monday 95 lon live in concert bbc/ peel sessions

ELECTRONIC electronic fac getting away with it fac get the message fac

CDRS - 8 ,COPIED DIRECTLY FROM VINYL

MP3"S 2 with all the b-sides,directly from vinyl 1 with all the different remixes

WOW THATS IT,I THINK! i"ll keep editing as i add items. MY WANTS LIST the other two, you can fly parts 1 & 2 loved it the other track new order touched by the hand of god cd3 jap blue monday 88 cd3 jap round & round us promo cd5 qwest fine time us promo cd5 qwest a new order sampler- london any cd3s

i think thats it. i hope the doubting thomases are looking! you know who you are! if i"ve missed anything then let me know. thanks for looking! regards steve smith,beermatville,barnsley,uk :)

COULD DO BETTER :D HOW DO YOU MEAN- COULD DO BETTER? do you mean you could do better ? or i could do better ? if you can do better than show me gimp boy !!!!!!!!!! let me know "weirdo (only kidding!!!) steve smith, "BEERMAT KING",heavy weight champion, barnsley,uk :)

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by steve smith> > > > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> > Go on Steve - list them all - I challenge you - after all, there's always someone else who may be all too happy to do that if you won't!> > > > I've just remembered that I forgot to include the Joy Division stuff in my list! :D>

right then here we go! this is my list,i"ll have to keep editing & updating due to lack of time. i started my collection about 15 years ago but didnt really bother with imports or promos . my interest in promos started when a friends sister managed to get me a copy of the get ready promo when she lived in london. this was only last november.i"ve bought loads since then! here we go! joy division/warsaw cd singles. no good for me 3" austrian sconic incubation 3" austrian sconic inside the line 3"austrian sconic atmosphere cd5 factory atmosphere cd5 polygram/can love will tear us apart centerdate/lon

joy division/warsaw albums

warsaw cd5 mpg/portugese unknown pleasures cd5 centerdate/lon closer cd5 lon still cd5 lon substance cd5 lon peel sessions cd5 sfruit permanent c london preston cd nmc les bains douches alchemy heart & soul(4cd) cd5 london remains cd5 ?

joy division vids

substance-copy here are the young men joy division posters

manchester/steel fence pic love will tear us apart -repro closer -repro

new order albums

movement cd5 fac power corruption & lies cd5 fac low-life cd5 fac brotherhood cd5 fac substance cd5 fac substance cd5 qwest technique cd5 fac republic cd5 lon republic"orange dayglo)" qwest the best of cd5 london the best of cd5 qwest the rest of 2cd cd5 lon the rest of cd5 lon get ready cd5 lon get ready(jap) cd5 wea international cd5 lon
international(+dvd)cd5 rhino back to mine cd5 dmc peel sessions cd5 sfruit R1live in concert cd5 windsong before & after(2cd)cd5 fuel
a tribute to cd5 cleopatra blue order cd5 hypnotic the remix cd5 on it 24 hr pp cd5 london retro cd5 london 20 years of cd5 reprise

new order singles

touched by the hand of god cd5 fac true faith cd5 fac true faith cdv fac blue monday 88 cd5 fac blue monday 88 cdv fac blue monday 95 cd5 lon blue monday 95 cd5 """/german bizarre love triangle cd5 qwest fine time cd5 fac round & round cd5 fac round & remix cd3 fac round & remix cd3 r- trade/ger world in motion cd5 fact/mca world in motion cd5 qwest world in motion cd5 london/mca world in motion cd3 rough trade/ger regret cd5 lon regret us maxi cd5 qwest ruined in a day 2cd limited lon world 2cd limited lon spooky 2cd limited lon true faith 94 cd5 lon 1963-95 (white 2cd box) lon crystal pt1 cd5 lon crystal pt2 cd5 lon crystal pt3 dvd lon 60mph pt1 cd5 lon 60mph pt2 cd5 lon 60mph pt3 dvd lon 60mph tour ep cd5 lon/aus here to stay pt1 cd5 lon here to stay pt2 cd5 lon here to stay pt3 dvd lon confusion cd5 whacked

new order promos

20 years of new order reprise back to mine full album cd5 dmc 24hr pp cdr lon get ready cd5 lon/nopro1 international cd5 lon/germ retro cdr lon retro bonus cdr lon blue monday 88 cd5 qwest/us true faith cd5 qwest/us bizzare love trianglecd5 qwest/us regret cd5 lon/nuocd1 ruined in a day cd5 cdj2 world cd5 cdj3 spooky cd5 cdj4 true faith 94 cd5 newcdj5 1963-95 cd5 nuocdj6 blue monday-95 cd5 ncdj7 crystal cd5 ncdj8 crystal cd5 reprise/pro100733 60mph cd5 ncdj9 here to stay cd5 ncdj11 world in motion cdr lon here to stay cdr lon confusion cdr lon run wild cdr lon brutal cdr lon someone like you cdr lon slow jam cdr aus/lon?

others

extra order cd5 reprise-promo in order cd5 qwest everthings gone factbenelux/austrian 81-82/fep313 cd5 fact/polygram video 586 cd5/maxi touch tone 7 newspeak cd5/interview holoview interview cd5 reprise

new order vids/dvds

play at home vhs mtv-new order special mtv-montreux-full set taras shevchenko pumped full of drugs brixton -black sleeve brixton -statue sleeve substance 89 neworder story best of 316 511 24hour pp

new order memorabilia

laminated tour "style" pass substance poster (sold) best of poster(sold|) low-life poster ruined in a day poster

electronic albums

electronic-self titled cd5 fact raise the pressure cd5 parl twisted tenderness cd5 parl twisted tenderness cd5us/? remixed bootleg interview cd5 evans4

electronicsingles

getting away with it cd5 fac getting away with it cd5 warner/us get the message cd5 fac get the message cd5 warner/us feel every beat cd5 fac feel every beat cd5 warner/us dissapointed cd5 parl dissapointed cd5 warner/us dissapointed cd5 virgin/ger until the end of timecd5 parl/emicdrdj6483 forbidden city cd5 parl for you pt1 cd5 parl for you pt2 cd5 parl second nature pt1 cd5 parl second nature pt2 cd5 parl vivid pt1 cd5 parl vivid pt2 cd5 parl late at night pt1 cd5 parl late at night pt2 cd5 parl late at night euro cd5 parl

electronic promos

forbidden city cdrdj6436 for you cdrdj6445 second nature cdrdj6455 vivid cdrdj6514 (2 copies) late at night cdrdj6519

electronic album promos

raise the pressure cdpcsdj7382 twisted tenderness sampler twisteddj01 twisted tenderness cdlrl003 twisted tenderness cdlrl005

electronic memorabilia/etc

dissapointed promo poster-official parlophone poster-MEGA rare

monaco albums music for pleasure cd5 polydor monaco s/t cd5 papillion

monaco singles

what do you want from me? cd5 polydor sweet lips pt1 cd5 polydor sweet lips cd5 polydor2copies shine cd5 polydor ive got a feeling cdv roadrunner,mega rare cdv /cd rom track!

monaco promos

sweet lips sweet1 shine lc0309 ive got a feeling btrad004

monaco album promos

music for pleasure monac1

revenge album

one true passion cd5 fact

revenge singles

gun world porn cd5 fact 7 reasons cd5 fact pinapple face cd5 fact slave cd5 fact slave cd3 fact/ger

revenge promos

pinapple face cd5 capitol/us

the other two albums

the other two & you cd5 london ,v rare silver sleeve cd super highways cd5 london

the other two singles

tasty fish cd5 factory selfish cd5 london super highways cd5 london

the other two promo singles super highways twcdj3 you can fly twcdj2

the other two album promos

super highways cdr london vinyl new order-round &round 7 new order true faith 7 electronic getting away with it 7

TAPES joy division substance lon still lon unknown pleasures lon closer lon peel sessions strange fruit permanent lon love will tear us apart lon

NEW ORDER TAPES movement lon power corruption & lies lon low-life- lon brotherhood lon substance lon technique lon republic lon rest of limited 2 tapes lon regret lon ruined in a day lon world lon spooky lon true faith 94 lon 1963-95 lon blue monday 95 lon live in concert bbc/ peel sessions

ELECTRONIC electronic fac getting away with it fac get the message fac

CDRS - 8 ,COPIED DIRECTLY FROM VINYL

MP3"S 2 with all the b-sides,directly from vinyl 1 with all the different remixes

WOW THATS IT,I THINK! i"ll keep editing as i add items. MY WANTS LIST the other two, you can fly parts 1 & 2 loved it the other track new order touched by the hand of god cd3 jap blue monday 88 cd3 jap round & round us promo cd5 qwest fine time us promo cd5 qwest a new order sampler- london any cd3s

i think thats it. i hope the doubting thomases are looking! you know who you are! if i"ve missed anything then let me know. thanks for looking! regards steve smith,beermatville,barnsley,uk :)

COULD DO BETTER :D HOW DO YOU MEAN- COULD DO BETTER? do you mean you could do better ? or i could do better ? let me know "weirdo (only kidding!!!) steve smith, "BEERMAT KING",heavy weight champion, barnsley,uk :)

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by steve smith> > > > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> > Go on Steve - list them all - I challenge you - after all, there's always someone else who may be all too happy to do that if you won't!> > > > I've just remembered that I forgot to include the Joy Division stuff in my list! :D>

right then here we go! this is my list,i"ll have to keep editing & updating due to lack of time. i started my collection about 15 years ago but didnt really bother with imports or promos . my interest in promos started when a friends sister managed to get me a copy of the get ready promo when she lived in london. this was only last november.i"ve bought loads since then! here we go! joy division/warsaw cd singles. no good for me 3" austrian sconic incubation 3" austrian sconic inside the line 3"austrian sconic atmosphere cd5 factory atmosphere cd5 polygram/can love will tear us apart centerdate/lon

joy division/warsaw albums

warsaw cd5 mpg/portugese unknown pleasures cd5 centerdate/lon closer cd5 lon still cd5 lon substance cd5 lon peel sessions cd5 sfruit permanent c london preston cd nmc les bains douches alchemy heart & soul(4cd) cd5 london remains cd5 ?

joy division vids

substance-copy here are the young men joy division posters

manchester/steel fence pic love will tear us apart -repro closer -repro

new order albums

movement cd5 fac power corruption & lies cd5 fac low-life cd5 fac brotherhood cd5 fac substance cd5 fac substance cd5 qwest technique cd5 fac republic cd5 lon republic"orange dayglo)" qwest the best of cd5 london the best of cd5 qwest the rest of 2cd cd5 lon the rest of cd5 lon get ready cd5 lon get ready(jap) cd5 wea international cd5 lon
international(+dvd)cd5 rhino back to mine cd5 dmc peel sessions cd5 sfruit R1live in concert cd5 windsong before & after(2cd)cd5 fuel
a tribute to cd5 cleopatra blue order cd5 hypnotic the remix cd5 on it 24 hr pp cd5 london retro cd5 london 20 years of cd5 reprise

new order singles

touched by the hand of god cd5 fac true faith cd5 fac true faith cdv fac blue monday 88 cd5 fac blue monday 88 cdv fac blue monday 95 cd5 lon blue monday 95 cd5 """/german bizarre love triangle cd5 qwest fine time cd5 fac round & round cd5 fac round & remix cd3 fac round & remix cd3 r- trade/ger world in motion cd5 fact/mca world in motion cd5 qwest world in motion cd5 london/mca world in motion cd3 rough trade/ger regret cd5 lon regret us maxi cd5 qwest ruined in a day 2cd limited lon world 2cd limited lon spooky 2cd limited lon true faith 94 cd5 lon 1963-95 (white 2cd box) lon crystal pt1 cd5 lon crystal pt2 cd5 lon crystal pt3 dvd lon 60mph pt1 cd5 lon 60mph pt2 cd5 lon 60mph pt3 dvd lon 60mph tour ep cd5 lon/aus here to stay pt1 cd5 lon here to stay pt2 cd5 lon here to stay pt3 dvd lon confusion cd5 whacked

new order promos

20 years of new order reprise back to mine full album cd5 dmc 24hr pp cdr lon get ready cd5 lon/nopro1 international cd5 lon/germ retro cdr lon retro bonus cdr lon blue monday 88 cd5 qwest/us true faith cd5 qwest/us bizzare love trianglecd5 qwest/us regret cd5 lon/nuocd1 ruined in a day cd5 cdj2 world cd5 cdj3 spooky cd5 cdj4 true faith 94 cd5 newcdj5 1963-95 cd5 nuocdj6 blue monday-95 cd5 ncdj7 crystal cd5 ncdj8 crystal cd5 reprise/pro100733 60mph cd5 ncdj9 here to stay cd5 ncdj11 world in motion cdr lon here to stay cdr lon confusion cdr lon run wild cdr lon brutal cdr lon someone like you cdr lon slow jam cdr aus/lon?

others

extra order cd5 reprise-promo in order cd5 qwest everthings gone factbenelux/austrian 81-82/fep313 cd5 fact/polygram video 586 cd5/maxi touch tone 7 newspeak cd5/interview holoview interview cd5 reprise

new order vids/dvds

play at home vhs mtv-new order special mtv-montreux-full set taras shevchenko pumped full of drugs brixton -black sleeve brixton -statue sleeve substance 89 neworder story best of 316 511 24hour pp

new order memorabilia

laminated tour "style" pass substance poster (sold) best of poster(sold|) low-life poster ruined in a day poster

electronic albums

electronic-self titled cd5 fact raise the pressure cd5 parl twisted tenderness cd5 parl twisted tenderness cd5us/? remixed bootleg interview cd5 evans4

electronicsingles

getting away with it cd5 fac getting away with it cd5 warner/us get the message cd5 fac get the message cd5 warner/us feel every beat cd5 fac feel every beat cd5 warner/us dissapointed cd5 parl dissapointed cd5 warner/us dissapointed cd5 virgin/ger until the end of timecd5 parl/emicdrdj6483 forbidden city cd5 parl for you pt1 cd5 parl for you pt2 cd5 parl second nature pt1 cd5 parl second nature pt2 cd5 parl vivid pt1 cd5 parl vivid pt2 cd5 parl late at night pt1 cd5 parl late at night pt2 cd5 parl late at night euro cd5 parl

electronic promos

forbidden city cdrdj6436 for you cdrdj6445 second nature cdrdj6455 vivid cdrdj6514 (2 copies) late at night cdrdj6519

electronic album promos

raise the pressure cdpcsdj7382 twisted tenderness sampler twisteddj01 twisted tenderness cdlrl003 twisted tenderness cdlrl005

electronic memorabilia/etc

dissapointed promo poster-official parlophone poster-MEGA rare

monaco albums music for pleasure cd5 polydor monaco s/t cd5 papillion

monaco singles

what do you want from me? cd5 polydor sweet lips pt1 cd5 polydor sweet lips cd5 polydor2copies shine cd5 polydor ive got a feeling cdv roadrunner,mega rare cdv /cd rom track!

monaco promos

sweet lips sweet1 shine lc0309 ive got a feeling btrad004

monaco album promos

music for pleasure monac1

revenge album

one true passion cd5 fact

revenge singles

gun world porn cd5 fact 7 reasons cd5 fact pinapple face cd5 fact slave cd5 fact slave cd3 fact/ger

revenge promos

pinapple face cd5 capitol/us

the other two albums

the other two & you cd5 london ,v rare silver sleeve cd super highways cd5 london

the other two singles

tasty fish cd5 factory selfish cd5 london super highways cd5 london

the other two promo singles super highways twcdj3 you can fly twcdj2

the other two album promos

super highways cdr london vinyl new order-round &round 7 new order true faith 7 electronic getting away with it 7

TAPES joy division substance lon still lon unknown pleasures lon closer lon peel sessions strange fruit permanent lon love will tear us apart lon

NEW ORDER TAPES movement lon power corruption & lies lon low-life- lon brotherhood lon substance lon technique lon republic lon rest of limited 2 tapes lon regret lon ruined in a day lon world lon spooky lon true faith 94 lon 1963-95 lon blue monday 95 lon live in concert bbc/ peel sessions

ELECTRONIC electronic fac getting away with it fac get the message fac

CDRS - 8 ,COPIED DIRECTLY FROM VINYL

MP3"S 2 with all the b-sides,directly from vinyl 1 with all the different remixes

WOW THATS IT,I THINK! i"ll keep editing as i add items. MY WANTS LIST the other two, you can fly parts 1 & 2 loved it the other track new order touched by the hand of god cd3 jap blue monday 88 cd3 jap round & round us promo cd5 qwest fine time us promo cd5 qwest a new order sampler- london any cd3s

i think thats it. i hope the doubting thomases are looking! you know who you are! if i"ve missed anything then let me know. thanks for looking! regards steve smith,beermatville,barnsley,uk :)

COULD DO BETTER :D[/quote
do you mean you could do better ? or i could do better ? let me know your answer steve smith, "BEERMAT KING" barnsley,uk :)

Why on earth did you post that message three times Steve? ;)

Originally posted by Chris Campbell Why on earth did you post that message three times Steve? ;)

Yes why did you post three times? A fine collection there and probably one you are proud of. Speaking about my collection which i have not posted but have shown to several members of this FORUM,due to the excellent nature and fine MINTY MINT condition of the 320 genuine items,the numerous uncatalogued items (asyet...SHUGZV did the ORIGINAL one) and the sheer class of some of the items i have it would seem somewhat trivial to post and a little bit of a LET DOWN to others.Like any collector i started by collecting specific items ie 12 inch records of NEW ORDER only ,missed a few of the more RARE JOY DIVISION items,stopped collecting whilst getting married TWICE then started again as prices circa 1986 started rising.Obviously your collection is the best for YOU but you could be AMAZED at mine.Nevertheless the next time a bunch of us NOOL's meet up at the PLANET ROCKET you are invited to view my collection and as long as you promise not to come back and steal it,maybe i will let you have a gift or two.Feel free to contact me via E-MAIL over any missing items or just general questions over the collection though.If there is anything to be said about my collection which hasn't been said OVER and OVER again then i will say.Although it is a great one ,ANY collection of NEW ORDER songs is worth having.But for guys like me owning 6/7 BEST OF,REST OF...or several PROMOS in any guise known to man of RUINED IN A DAY...some would say what's the point? ANSWER is i don't bloody know.With the videos ,DVDs,mags,artefacts,LIVE TAPES ,cassettes,MINIDISCs and sundry items i have ,i often wonder WHY myself.Just enjoy the music. Cheers ROCKET MICK

Originally posted by Phillip Mervain THE OTHER TWO - Movin' On (Withdrawn 1992 Factory 12" single - never issued)The Other Two and You (Withdrawn 1992 Factory Promo LP - plain sleeve with track listing - contains original mixes of the tracks that later appeared on London Records in 1993)

Wow - exceedingly rare items! I'd heard about the "Movin' On" 12", but never seen a copy. There's quite a few unreleased Moby mixes of that rumoured to exist...

As for the Factory LP, not a lot of people have that one either...

l8rs,

Nick ;)

Originally posted by Phillip Mervain Almost forgot all about adding my list here.Some Factory (New Order-related) items I have include:Fine Time 12" Marbled vinyl. (either Dutch or Austrian origin)

fine time marbled vinyl? wassat? is that an official release?

note to others needlessly quoting long posts in their entirety - did you see what i did there?

Originally posted by Phillip Mervain THE OTHER TWO - Movin' On (Withdrawn 1992 Factory 12" single - never issued)The Other Two and You (Withdrawn 1992 Factory Promo LP - plain sleeve with track listing - contains original mixes of the tracks that later appeared on London Records in 1993)

I am particularly intrigued to hear about this one! I remember reading in the music papers about this being planned as a single but nothing was heard of it. How on earth did you manage to get hold of these?

Friends in high places I assume? ;)

Originally posted by Chris Campbell Why on earth did you post that message three times Steve? ;)

the reason i replied 3 TIMES is simple : STELLA ARTOIS! i"d been caning belgiums finest in the house ,i cant even remember replying never mind 3 times!!!!!! i do hope my comments didnt offend they werent meant to! regards steve. p.s if its any consolation i had a blinding hangover the next day!!!!!! :)

Originally posted by Confusion & Murder in Paradise > Originally posted by Phillip Mervain> > > THE OTHER TWO - Movin' On (Withdrawn 1992 Factory 12" single - never issued)> The Other Two and You (Withdrawn 1992 Factory Promo LP - plain sleeve with track listing - contains original mixes of the tracks that later appeared on London Records in 1993)>

I am particularly intrigued to hear about this one! I remember reading in the music papers about this being planned as a single but nothing was heard of it. How on earth did you manage to get hold of these?

Friends in high places I assume? ;)

remember seeing these advertised in nme before factory went pop but thought they were a bit pricey at the time (of course now we know what happened to factory it explains the price)

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> Why on earth did you post that message three times Steve? ;)

Yes why did you post three times? A fine collection there and probably one you are proud of. Speaking about my collection which i have not posted but have shown to several members of this FORUM,due to the excellent nature and fine MINTY MINT condition of the 320 genuine items,the numerous uncatalogued items (asyet...SHUGZV did the ORIGINAL one) and the sheer class of some of the items i have it would seem somewhat trivial to post and a little bit of a LET DOWN to others.Like any collector i started by collecting specific items ie 12 inch records of NEW ORDER only ,missed a few of the more RARE JOY DIVISION items,stopped collecting whilst getting married TWICE then started again as prices circa 1986 started rising.Obviously your collection is the best for YOU but you could be AMAZED at mine.Nevertheless the next time a bunch of us NOOL's meet up at the PLANET ROCKET you are invited to view my collection and as long as you promise not to come back and steal it,maybe i will let you have a gift or two.Feel free to contact me via E-MAIL over any missing items or just general questions over the collection though.If there is anything to be said about my collection which hasn't been said OVER and OVER again then i will say.Although it is a great one ,ANY collection of NEW ORDER songs is worth having.But for guys like me owning 6/7 BEST OF,REST OF...or several PROMOS in any guise known to man of RUINED IN A DAY...some would say what's the point? ANSWER is i don't bloody know.With the videos ,DVDs,mags,artefacts,LIVE TAPES ,cassettes,MINIDISCs and sundry items i have ,i often wonder WHY myself.Just enjoy the music. Cheers ROCKET MICK [/quote i refer the honorable gentleman to the answer to the question that i have answered above. in northern speak look above monkey boy! if i caused you any offence by my comments then please feel free to whip me mercifully with a laddered pair of brown tights full of golf balls!!!! only kidding mick thanks for the reply! regards steve. :) p.s stella artois rules! bloody hell i"m sounding like an 18year old again!

OFFENDED me?:D Indeed not Steve.Yours is a brilliant collection but i warn you not to indulge too much.As i posted here recently i once spent over £100 in the early 90's (quite abit then) on loads of ELECTRONIC's GET THE MESSAGE including the withdrawn PROMO.I ask you...WHY?Still it makes you feel ggod at the time but like most things that do,you then require more. Regards ROCKET MICK

Joy Division CD ALBUMS (all London Records)

Unknown Pleasures Closer Still Substance Permenant

CD SINGLES

Love Will Tear Us Apart `95

BOX SETS

Heart & Soul

New Order CD ALBUMS

Movement (London) Power Corruption & Lies (Factory) Low-Life (London) Brotherhood (London) Substance 1987 (Factory) Technique (Factory) Radio 1 Live In Concert The Peel Sessions Republic The Best Of The Rest Of Get Ready International 2 interview discs

CD SINGLES

Bizarre Love Triangle (US import) Touched By The Hand Of God Blue Monday 88 Fine Time Round & Round (CD1 & CD2) World In Motion Regret Ruined In A Day (CD1 & CD2) World (CD1 & CD2) Spooky (CD1 & CD2) True Faith 94 Nineteen63 (CD1 & CD2) Blue Monday 95 Video 586 Crystal (CD1, CD2 & DVD) 60 Miles An Hour (CD1, CD2 & DVD) Here To Stay (CD1, CD2 & DVD) World In Motion 2002

BOX SETS

Retro

VIDEOS

Story The Best Of New Order

Electronic CD ALBUMS

Electronic (original Factory release) Raise The Pressure Twisted Tenderness

CD SINGLES

Getting Away With It (CD1 only) Get The Message Feel Every Beat Disappointed Forbidden City For You (CD1 & CD2) Second Nature (CD1 & CD2) Vivid (CD1 & CD2)

The Other Two CD ALBUMS

The Other Two & You Superhighways

CD SINGLES

Tasty Fish Selfish Superhighways

Revenge CD ALBUMS

One True Passion Gun World Porn (US import)

Monaco CD ALBUMS

Music For Pleasure Monaco

CD SINGLES

What Do You Want From Me Sweet Lips (CD1 & CD2) Shine

***** The only piece of N.O-related vinyl I`ve ever owned was the limited edition 'Run 2' 12" single, but I had to throw that away a few days ago cos of fucking condensation. Sniff! *****

Originally posted by Rocket Mick OFFENDED me?:D Indeed not Steve.Yours is a brilliant collection but i warn you not to indulge too much.As i posted here recently i once spent over £100 in the early 90's (quite abit then) on loads of ELECTRONIC's GET THE MESSAGE including the withdrawn PROMO.I ask you...WHY?Still it makes you feel ggod at the time but like most things that do,you then require more. Regards ROCKET MICK

Sir Rocket. How about taking the plunge and finally posting up your 320-strong collection here for us to marvel at? After all, Steve Smith here has just taken the trouble to do it three times over....!!

:D