:smoker: What's In Your NO / JD Collection ?

the us promo is a 12" not sure if the 7" has a live mix - bound to be on the discography of here or the other site

Murv, the Video version of TPK is available on the Qwest 12" promo PRO-A-2342

It's an edit of the version used in the vid. The one on Retro is a full version, but not the actual version used in the promo.

from the discogrpahy here US 12" Promo (Qwest PRO-A-2342)

thats the one you want.

incidentally did you know the german sleeve of tpk has the lettering in a gold/bronze colour printed on instead of embossed like the rest of the world?

Originally posted by Hibster from the discogrpahy hereUS 12" Promo (Qwest PRO-A-2342)thats the one you want.incidentally did you know the german sleeve of tpk has the lettering in a gold/bronze colour printed on instead of embossed like the rest of the world?

A world of info...Good on ya Hibster and Old Blue

Just a question - Has anyone here got a copy of the Academy live VHS video (Brixton, 1988) which was withdrawn for some reason because of the sleeve design? How rare is this item? I've been on the trail of it for absolutely ages.

:)

Originally posted by Chris Campbell That was the very same point I was making - how can anyone be such a huge collector of New Order artefacts and yet not possess any vinyl! That is a criminal oversight on par with saying you love your favourite band with a passion but don't even know who the actual members are!!Most mysterious! ;)

wahey, i knew my post would evoke the stirring of passions in all you vinyl puritans out there! i DO have a lot of rare cds of new order and their side projects. i DONT collect vinyl. the reason for this is simple,A, i find it too expensiove to collect.B, most of the covers are dog eared and the vinyl is usually scratched to bits. C, I DONT HAVE A RECORD PLAYER !.D, finally ,i only got into new order when i was about 17 and sadly the age of cd was upon us it was simply easier to collect the cds! and lastly but not leastly, my friend has most of the vinyl that new order and their side projects have ever done and has transferred everthing onto cd from the vinyl for me!!!!!! sorry if i upset you with my post,it was meant to cause friction amongst the vinyl puritans! yours is the only reply to the post i originally posted that i have read . i"m off to check the others out now to see how theyve slagged me off too! kind regards. steve smith,uk :):(:)

Whaaaat?! No N.O. vinyl?????

Originally posted by steve smith > > I DONT HAVE A RECORD PLAYER !.

Good God young man! And there I was about to lecture everyone on the relative merits of the original Factory Wax Cylinder Gramophone!!

Please do yourself a favour - get hold of at least a cheap turntable (even something by Chad Valley will do), a stylus, and some beautiful sexy luscious black 12" plastic - and FEEL the difference of the sound of New Order pulsating through your veins. It really IS that sensational, believe me.... ;)

Originally posted by Chris Campbell Just a question - Has anyone here got a copy of the Academy live VHS video (Brixton, 1988) which was withdrawn for some reason because of the sleeve design? How rare is this item? I've been on the trail of it for absolutely ages.:)

Your search for this particular artefact could well be in vain, I don't have it either but I believe the original issue was pulled cos the sleeve image infringed copyright of some sort or other. Either that or something unofficial wasn't cleared. (Rocket Mick or one of the other knowledgable types here may be able to fill you in on this cos I'm not 100% certain). Needless to say, the first print is probably now as rare as rocking horse shit.....

Originally posted by Mark The Macc > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> Just a question - Has anyone here got a copy of the Academy live VHS video (Brixton, 1988) which was withdrawn for some reason because of the sleeve design? How rare is this item? I've been on the trail of it for absolutely ages.> > :)

Your search for this particular artefact could well be in vain, I don't have it either but I believe the original issue was pulled cos the sleeve image infringed copyright of some sort or other. Either that or something unofficial wasn't cleared. (Rocket Mick or one of the other knowledgable types here may be able to fill you in on this cos I'm not 100% certain). Needless to say, the first print is probably now as rare as rocking horse shit.....

Yes i have this...quite a nice cover.If you want i will scan it and send you a PRINTED copy.I don't think it is THAT rare because it was out for a long time before being withdrawn.

I don't think they had permission to use the statue picture, or something.

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by Mark The Macc> > > > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> > Just a question - Has anyone here got a copy of the Academy live VHS video (Brixton, 1988) which was withdrawn for some reason because of the sleeve design? How rare is this item? I've been on the trail of it for absolutely ages.> > > > :)>

Your search for this particular artefact could well be in vain, I don't have it either but I believe the original issue was pulled cos the sleeve image infringed copyright of some sort or other. Either that or something unofficial wasn't cleared. (Rocket Mick or one of the other knowledgable types here may be able to fill you in on this cos I'm not 100% certain). Needless to say, the first print is probably now as rare as rocking horse shit.....

Yes i have this...quite a nice cover.If you want i will scan it and send you a PRINTED copy.I don't think it is THAT rare because it was out for a long time before being withdrawn.

WELL done there that man Rockster! I knew I could count on you to chip in here with your reliable words..! :D

Originally posted by Old Blue I don't think they had permission to use the statue picture, or something.

Thanks for posting this one up OB - great stuff....I'd long forgotten what the cover looked like all this time. As for the statue - I wonder whether Peter Saville was caught trying to get in to the Louvre without actually paying..... perhaps that's the real reason why they withdrew this cover - cos of "breach of admission rights".... ;)

Some omissions to the New Order list I put up earlier, then the Joy Division records I mentioned I would add.

1988 Peel Sessions vinyl LP

1994 The Best Of New Order (double vinyl LP)

JOY DIVISION:

1979 Unknown Pleasures LP (Factory records) Unknown Pleasure CD (Centerdate re-issue) Transmission 12" (Factory Benelux )

1980 Love Will Tear Us Apart 12" and 7" (originals) Closer LP (Rough Trade/Factory) Closer CD (Centerdate re-issue) Atmosphere 12" (original)

1981 Still (reissue of vinyl double LP) Still CD (Centerdate issue)

1987 Peel Sessions 12"

1988 Substance LP (original) Substance CD (original) Atmosphere 12" and 7" re-isues

1994 Permanent LP and CD Love Will Tear Us Apart 12" and CD (reissue and new mixes)

1997 Heart and Soul Box Set (4 CDS) Peel Sessions CD reissue.

For the benefit of this thread I'll just add the Blue inner-sleeved version of the Perfect Kiss 12" I picked up in Nottingham for £4.50 a few weeks ago and mentioned elsewhere....

All this talk of recent compilations prompts me to wonder why they couldn't have released all the original 12-inchers that weren't on CD in the first place - but in sleeves with original artwork just like the vinyl versions. I'msure a lot of collectors would welcome such a package. Instead we had to make do with Retro, which wasn't by anymeans the most comprehensive collection and duplicated a lot of tracks (like Perfect Kiss album edit) that had already existed many times before.

Originally posted by Confusion & Murder in Paradise Whaaaat?! No N.O. vinyl?????

stop the press!!!!!!!!!! i"ve just bought some vinyl!!!!!!!! i WAS SHAMED INTO THIS!!!!!!!!!!! i"ve just bought true faith7,round and round7,and an electronic7" ! who knows i may even buy a record player/gramophone type thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! steve smith,uk :):):):):):):)

Originally posted by Chris Campbell Go on Steve - list them all - I challenge you - after all, there's always someone else who may be all too happy to do that if you won't!I've just remembered that I forgot to include the Joy Division stuff in my list! :D

your chellenge is accepted! i"m afraid it"s pistols at dawn for you young man! AND I"VE BOUGHT SOME VINYL! I will list all my cds(or as murv calls them beermats!) within the next few weeks! steve smith,barnsley,uk :):):):):):)

I have a neat little collection (not too big however) of exclusive Factory promo vinyl that a good friend of mine managed to help secure for me .... there are bands other than New Order amongst the number - people like Quando Quango, Biting Tongues, the Railway Children, Life, A Certain Ratio, The Wake, Happy Mondays, Marcel King and Miaow.

Of the New Order stuff, I have a white label of their "Substance" double album and - as far as i can remember (most of my collection sits back at my parents home in Dorset!!) a one-sided promo of "Run 2" which I believe is extremely rare.

I'll put up the rest of the items at a later point if I can remember.

Cheers,

— Phillip .

All below are Australian releases __________________________________________ JOY DIVISION - ALBUMS 1988: Substance CD

JOY DIVISION - COMPILATIONS 2002: Heart & Soul Box Set __________________________________________ NEW ORDER - ALBUMS 1983: Power, Corruption & Lies CD 1985: Low-Life CD 1986: Brotherhood CD 1989: Technique CD 1993: Republic CD 2001: Get Ready CD

NEW ORDER - SINGLES 2001: 60 Miles An Hour CD 2002: Here To Stay CD

NEW ORDER - COMPILATIONS 1987: Substance CD 1994: (the best of) CD 1995: (the rest of) CD 2003: Retro Box Set (inc Bonus Disc 5)

NEW ORDER - OTHER 1982: The John Peel Sessions CD 2002: 316 DVD 2003: 511 DVD __________________________________________ ELECTRONIC - ALBUMS 1991: Electronic 1996: Raise The Pressure 1999: Twisted Tenderness __________________________________________ WHERE DID I BUY ALL THIS? All Stores in Canberra, ACT, Australia Music Shop: 4 JB Hi-Fi: 4 Impact Records: 4 Sanity: 3 Revolution: 3 Dick Smith Electronics: 2

Originally posted by Mark The Macc > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> Just a question - Has anyone here got a copy of the Academy live VHS video (Brixton, 1988) which was withdrawn for some reason because of the sleeve design? How rare is this item? I've been on the trail of it for absolutely ages.> > :)

Your search for this particular artefact could well be in vain, I don't have it either but I believe the original issue was pulled cos the sleeve image infringed copyright of some sort or other. Either that or something unofficial wasn't cleared. (Rocket Mick or one of the other knowledgable types here may be able to fill you in on this cos I'm not 100% certain). Needless to say, the first print is probably now as rare as rocking horse shit.....

I believe it was withdrawn as although it fited in with the other stuff of that era in teerms of featuring statues it was not actually designed by peter saville (will have to check sleeve when get home) & they decided they just didnt like it

it was available from virgin(or hmv - forget which) with an free t-shirt - i didnt get mine there so didnt get the t, but dont know if anyone else has one...

it still turns up on e-bay fairly frequently sop point your browser in that direction...

Originally posted by Hibster > Originally posted by Mark The Macc> > > > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> > Just a question - Has anyone here got a copy of the Academy live VHS video (Brixton, 1988) which was withdrawn for some reason because of the sleeve design? How rare is this item? I've been on the trail of it for absolutely ages.> > > > :)>

Your search for this particular artefact could well be in vain, I don't have it either but I believe the original issue was pulled cos the sleeve image infringed copyright of some sort or other. Either that or something unofficial wasn't cleared. (Rocket Mick or one of the other knowledgable types here may be able to fill you in on this cos I'm not 100% certain). Needless to say, the first print is probably now as rare as rocking horse shit.....

I believe it was withdrawn as although it fited in with the other stuff of that era in teerms of featuring statues it was not actually designed by peter saville (will have to check sleeve when get home) & they decided they just didnt like it

it was available from virgin(or hmv - forget which) with an free t-shirt - i didnt get mine there so didnt get the t, but dont know if anyone else has one...

it still turns up on e-bay fairly frequently sop point your browser in that direction...

Aaaaahhhh, I see where you're coming from now Hibs... upon examining the sleeve art just put up on this thread earlier I also noticed that there appears to be a slight imperfection with regard to both the positioning and style of the typography below the picture of the Venus de Milo.... that's something I'm sure Peter Saville would never be so churlish to overlook what with his monumental attention to detail. Come to think of it, it DOES look like it was rather hastily cobbled together. And that's coming from someone who genuinely knows NOTHING about actual graphic design! :)

Originally posted by D_B_ All this talk of recent compilations prompts me to wonder why they couldn't have released all the original 12-inchers that weren't on CD in the first place - but in sleeves with original artwork just like the vinyl versions.I'msure a lot of collectors would welcome such a package. Instead we had to make do with Retro, which wasn't by anymeans the most comprehensive collection and duplicated a lot of tracks (like Perfect Kiss album edit) that had already existed many times before.

I've noticed that there have been a number of threads that have been started discussing this very subject - about the best way to repackage the early New Order 12" and 7" singles - but the controversy surrounding the recent Retro release seems to have rendered the whole debate even more chaotic than it already was.

Originally posted by steve smith your chellenge is accepted!i"m afraid it"s pistols at dawn for you young man!AND I"VE BOUGHT SOME VINYL!I will list all my cds(or as murv calls them beermats!)within the next few weeks!steve smith,barnsley,uk:):):):):):)

Glad to hear you got some vinyl at last! Looking forward to seeing your huge list of rare CDs then Steve... ;)

Originally posted by Chris Campbell > Originally posted by steve smith> > your chellenge is accepted!> i"m afraid it"s pistols at dawn for you young man!> AND I"VE BOUGHT SOME VINYL!> I will list all my cds(or as murv calls them beermats!)> within the next few weeks!> steve smith,barnsley,uk> :):):):):):)>

Glad to hear you got some vinyl at last! Looking forward to seeing your huge list of rare CDs then Steve... ;)

my list is ever growing mate,i"ve spent £100 in the last few weeks alone. in all honesty i think i"ve bitten a bit more than i can chew,cataloging them is a nightmare1 but i will get there so keep watching! steve smith,barnsley,uk :)

WHAT I want to know is - how many different versions of everyone's party favourite "World In Motion" have you got, Stevie? ;)

Originally posted by steve smith > Originally posted by Chris Campbell> Go on Steve - list them all - I challenge you - after all, there's always someone else who may be all too happy to do that if you won't!> > I've just remembered that I forgot to include the Joy Division stuff in my list! :D

your chellenge is accepted! i"m afraid it"s pistols at dawn for you young man! AND I"VE BOUGHT SOME VINYL! I will list all my cds(or as murv calls them beermats!) within the next few weeks! steve smith,barnsley,uk :):):):):):)

I`m also looking forward to seeing your rare CD collection, only kidding about the beermats comment.

Originally posted by Mark LaMacq WHAT I want to know is - how many different versions of everyone's party favourite "World In Motion" have you got, Stevie? ;)

off the top of my head 5/6 still waiting to get the jap cd3. keep watching though ,hopefully i"ll update my list and post it this weekend. steve :)

Originally posted by Chris Campbell Go on Steve - list them all - I challenge you - after all, there's always someone else who may be all too happy to do that if you won't!I've just remembered that I forgot to include the Joy Division stuff in my list! :D

right then here we go! this is my list,i"ll have to keep editing & updating due to lack of time. i started my collection about 15 years ago but didnt really bother with imports or promos . my interest in promos started when a friends sister managed to get me a copy of the get ready promo when she lived in london. this was only last november.i"ve bought loads since then! here we go! joy division/warsaw cd singles. no good for me 3" austrian sconic incubation 3" austrian sconic inside the line 3"austrian sconic atmosphere cd5 factory atmosphere cd5 polygram/can love will tear us apart centerdate/lon

joy division/warsaw albums

warsaw cd5 mpg/portugese unknown pleasures cd5 centerdate/lon closer cd5 lon still cd5 lon substance cd5 lon peel sessions cd5 sfruit permanent c london preston cd nmc les bains douches alchemy heart & soul(4cd) cd5 london remains cd5 ?

joy division vids

substance-copy here are the young men joy division posters

manchester/steel fence pic love will tear us apart -repro closer -repro

new order albums

movement cd5 fac power corruption & lies cd5 fac low-life cd5 fac brotherhood cd5 fac substance cd5 fac substance cd5 qwest technique cd5 fac republic cd5 lon republic"orange dayglo)" qwest the best of cd5 london the best of cd5 qwest the rest of 2cd cd5 lon the rest of cd5 lon get ready cd5 lon get ready(jap) cd5 wea international cd5 lon
international(+dvd)cd5 rhino back to mine cd5 dmc peel sessions cd5 sfruit R1live in concert cd5 windsong before & after(2cd)cd5 fuel
a tribute to cd5 cleopatra blue order cd5 hypnotic the remix cd5 on it 24 hr pp cd5 london retro cd5 london 20 years of cd5 reprise

new order singles

touched by the hand of god cd5 fac true faith cd5 fac true faith cdv fac blue monday 88 cd5 fac blue monday 88 cdv fac blue monday 95 cd5 lon blue monday 95 cd5 """/german bizarre love triangle cd5 qwest fine time cd5 fac round & round cd5 fac round & remix cd3 fac round & remix cd3 r- trade/ger world in motion cd5 fact/mca world in motion cd5 qwest world in motion cd5 london/mca world in motion cd3 rough trade/ger regret cd5 lon regret us maxi cd5 qwest ruined in a day 2cd limited lon world 2cd limited lon spooky 2cd limited lon true faith 94 cd5 lon 1963-95 (white 2cd box) lon crystal pt1 cd5 lon crystal pt2 cd5 lon crystal pt3 dvd lon 60mph pt1 cd5 lon 60mph pt2 cd5 lon 60mph pt3 dvd lon 60mph tour ep cd5 lon/aus here to stay pt1 cd5 lon here to stay pt2 cd5 lon here to stay pt3 dvd lon confusion cd5 whacked

new order promos

20 years of new order reprise back to mine full album cd5 dmc 24hr pp cdr lon get ready cd5 lon/nopro1 international cd5 lon/germ retro cdr lon retro bonus cdr lon blue monday 88 cd5 qwest/us true faith cd5 qwest/us bizzare love trianglecd5 qwest/us regret cd5 lon/nuocd1 ruined in a day cd5 cdj2 world cd5 cdj3 spooky cd5 cdj4 true faith 94 cd5 newcdj5 1963-95 cd5 nuocdj6 blue monday-95 cd5 ncdj7 crystal cd5 ncdj8 crystal cd5 reprise/pro100733 60mph cd5 ncdj9 here to stay cd5 ncdj11 world in motion cdr lon here to stay cdr lon confusion cdr lon run wild cdr lon brutal cdr lon someone like you cdr lon slow jam cdr aus/lon?

others

extra order cd5 reprise-promo in order cd5 qwest everthings gone factbenelux/austrian 81-82/fep313 cd5 fact/polygram video 586 cd5/maxi touch tone 7 newspeak cd5/interview holoview interview cd5 reprise

new order vids/dvds

play at home vhs mtv-new order special mtv-montreux-full set taras shevchenko pumped full of drugs brixton -black sleeve brixton -statue sleeve substance 89 neworder story best of 316 511 24hour pp

new order memorabilia

laminated tour "style" pass substance poster (sold) best of poster(sold|) low-life poster ruined in a day poster

electronic albums

electronic-self titled cd5 fact raise the pressure cd5 parl twisted tenderness cd5 parl twisted tenderness cd5us/? remixed bootleg interview cd5 evans4

electronicsingles

getting away with it cd5 fac getting away with it cd5 warner/us get the message cd5 fac get the message cd5 warner/us feel every beat cd5 fac feel every beat cd5 warner/us dissapointed cd5 parl dissapointed cd5 warner/us dissapointed cd5 virgin/ger until the end of timecd5 parl/emicdrdj6483 forbidden city cd5 parl for you pt1 cd5 parl for you pt2 cd5 parl second nature pt1 cd5 parl second nature pt2 cd5 parl vivid pt1 cd5 parl vivid pt2 cd5 parl late at night pt1 cd5 parl late at night pt2 cd5 parl late at night euro cd5 parl

electronic promos

forbidden city cdrdj6436 for you cdrdj6445 second nature cdrdj6455 vivid cdrdj6514 (2 copies) late at night cdrdj6519

electronic album promos

raise the pressure cdpcsdj7382 twisted tenderness sampler twisteddj01 twisted tenderness cdlrl003 twisted tenderness cdlrl005 twisted tenderness cdr promo

electronic memorabilia/etc

dissapointed promo poster-official parlophone poster-MEGA rare

monaco albums music for pleasure cd5 polydor monaco s/t cd5 papillion

monaco singles

what do you want from me? cd5 polydor sweet lips pt1 cd5 polydor sweet lips cd5 polydor2copies shine cd5 polydor ive got a feeling cdv roadrunner,mega rare cdv /cd rom track!

monaco promos

sweet lips sweet1 shine lc0309 ive got a feeling btrad004

monaco album promos

music for pleasure monac1

revenge album

one true passion cd5 fact

revenge singles

gun world porn cd5 fact 7 reasons cd5 fact pinapple face cd5 fact slave cd5 fact slave cd3 fact/ger

revenge promos

pinapple face cd5 capitol/us

the other two albums

the other two & you cd5 london ,v rare silver sleeve cd super highways cd5 london

the other two singles

tasty fish cd5 factory selfish cd5 london super highways cd5 london LOVED IT-THE OTHER TRACK-CD5 FACTORY

the other two promo singles super highways twcdj3 you can fly twcdj2

the other two album promos

super highways cdr london vinyl new order-round &round 7 new order true faith 7 electronic getting away with it 7

TAPES joy division substance lon still lon unknown pleasures lon closer lon peel sessions strange fruit permanent lon love will tear us apart lon

NEW ORDER TAPES movement lon power corruption & lies lon low-life- lon brotherhood lon substance lon technique lon republic lon rest of limited 2 tapes lon regret lon ruined in a day lon world lon spooky lon true faith 94 lon 1963-95 lon blue monday 95 lon live in concert bbc/ peel sessions

ELECTRONIC electronic fac getting away with it fac get the message fac

CDRS - 8 ,COPIED DIRECTLY FROM VINYL

MP3"S 2 with all the b-sides,directly from vinyl 1 with all the different remixes

WOW THATS IT,I THINK! i"ll keep editing as i add items. MY WANTS LIST the other two, you can fly parts 1 & 2 loved it the other track(GOT IT!!!!!) new order touched by the hand of god cd3 jap blue monday 88 cd3 jap round & round us promo cd5 qwest fine time us promo cd5 qwest a new order sampler- london any cd3s

i think thats it. i hope the doubting thomases are looking! you know who you are! if i"ve missed anything then let me know. thanks for looking! regards steve smith,beermatville,barnsley,uk :)

My collection's pathetic compared to what some of you lot have! *hangs head in shame* Here's what I've got:

NO: PC&L Low-Life Brotherhood Technique Republic Get Ready Substance Here To Stay Crystal (all on CD)

Electronic: All three albums (all on CD)

DVDs: 316 511 (Finsbury Park)

Others: Uncut magazine article (don't know what issue it was but NO were on the cover; I got it off the Net)

Blimey Steven, that's a pretty formidable list of magic beermats you have there!

Talking of MOST DESIRABLE items what I would have loved to have had was the flip book used in the Blue Monday 1988 video.

Or the dog - now she was an absolute star! (What was her name - does anyone know?) By the way, do you like the pic of my dog Checkers here?? ;)