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Can someone please explain to me why NO has been shrugging North America when it comes to touring. With the exception of a few dates in '01 (all west coast), it's been quite a while since they've done an extensive run. Granted Get Ready was not a big seller, but since when do you need a big hit or even a record deal to tour? Look at poor Morrissey!

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I live south of Boston and I too would wish to see New Order one day come over and tour here - having only gotten into the band's music in 1999.

When their last album Get Ready came out I was looking forward to maybe seeing them play Boston or at least a Canadian date, but sadly no such luck. I do hope next time they consider coming here. Is there another album planned soon?

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The answer maybe that the USA '89 Technique tour beat the crap out of certain members of the band (OK, just one then!) and I doubt if they will ever pursue anything on that scale ever again.

DM

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Originally posted by Benidorm Too Can someone please explain to me why NO has been shrugging North America when it comes to touring. With the exception of a few dates in '01 (all west coast), it's been quite a while since they've done an extensive run. Granted Get Ready was not a big seller, but since when do you need a big hit or even a record deal to tour? Look at poor Morrissey!

Probably because we think OMD, Depeche Mode, and NO are all the same band.

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I'd go see Ultravox if they toured. But it would have to be one of the John Foxx-era line ups or the Midge Ure-era before Warren Cann split.

I'd go see NO if they toured the midwest like around southwest Ohio....

:D:D:D:D:D:D anita...this means nothing to me....slow motion....

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lazy #%&!

:mad:

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Originally posted by Snucker lazy #%&!:mad:

Did you mean me??? I'd LOVE to see them but I'm real damn tired of having to drive to Detroit, Chicago, Lexington, Louisville or any place more than a couple of hours away because for some stoopid fucking reason shows are scheduled on WEEKNIGHTS and I have a job and my vacation time is limited.

Let's break it down. For example: last year May 27 (Monday, Memorial Day) I saw Pet Shop Boys in Detroit. Fantastic show, got to meet Neil and Chris and get autographs and talk to Neil. Left for home planning to be at work on Tuesday at least by noon. Got to Findlay and had to stop at a rest stop to sleep. Slept for a couple of hours and finally got home at 6:30 am. No chance of work that day, but they knew I might not be there. One lost day of work but then I was lucky it wasn't 2. Last year was real bad for being off work since I blew all my sick days and half my vacation days because I was in the hospital last January.

Paul Weller is touring around country in Feb. I'd LOVE to see him but the closest he'll be is Detroit (same theatre as PSB!) and the show is on a Tuesday. I'd lose TWO days of work to be there and even if I can get the time off knowing Detroit it'll be hit with 12" of snow that day. I can't drive back that night because it'll be too cold to pull off at a rest stop to sleep and hotels are expensive.

South west Ohio is a really nice place to be. We have paved roads, flush toilets, and phones that can be dialed directly and not through an operator named Betty Lou sitting at her switchboard. Cincinnati and Columbus have a TON of places to play and lots of people would go see a group at any of them. Unfortunately, Dayton is still mired in the '70s album oriented rock so I can't blame anyone for nmot coming here.

Got Lynyrd Skynrd?

:D:D:D:D:D anita

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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I have a strange feeling they didn't tour on the East Coast due to the WTC incident...

I know they did dates on the west coast before that, but I was expecting them to come back to America, but they never did, not even to promote Get Ready, which is very weird since Reprise was releasing at 2 months later probably because they wanted them to promote and tour...

But well, in September, we all know what happened... that changes plans..

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Originally posted by Spotnick Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I have a strange feeling they didn't tour on the East Coast due to the WTC incident...

Er, we Brits are made of a bit more mettle than that, Nick!

I didn't think the problem with WTC was people not travelling to the States, it was more Americans refusing to travel elsewhere, no?

Gigs - as far as I know - were offered in April and then August of last year, but were turned down. You can guess whose final decision that one was!

Funniest thing I heard when we were over for the Area:One stuff - Americans not flying to the UK because of ... mad cow disease! One woman we met in San Francisco had even delayed a year at University as a result.

:laugh:

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Good to see you still have SOME net abilities Jarvo!

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northeast ohio rocks the party right

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Originally posted by anita I'd go see Ultravox if they toured. But it would have to be one of the John Foxx-era line ups or the Midge Ure-era before Warren Cann split.I'd go see NO if they toured the midwest like around southwest Ohio....:D:D:D:D:D:Danita...this means nothing to me....slow motion....

I'd go see Ultravox with Midge or John too. Heck, I just heard that Erasure (of all bands) is coming near Grand Rapids (Chicago, I think). Freakin Erasure?!? If they can tour the US and not go broke, NO should be able to do it easily. They are just lazy old farts who don't feel like it. Let's stop kidding ourselves. It's not cause they can't or because they couldn't afford it. It's because they have gotten older, slower, and they don't have to do things they don't feel like anymore. So, why do it? For the fans? I doubt they care that much about the fans, if they did, the box set would have been different... as well as other releases.

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Spotnick> Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I have a strange feeling they didn't tour on the East Coast due to the WTC incident...

Er, we Brits are made of a bit more mettle than that, Nick!

I didn't think the problem with WTC was people not travelling to the States, it was more Americans refusing to travel elsewhere, no?

Gigs - as far as I know - were offered in April and then August of last year, but were turned down. You can guess whose final decision that one was!

Funniest thing I heard when we were over for the Area:One stuff - Americans not flying to the UK because of ... mad cow disease! One woman we met in San Francisco had even delayed a year at University as a result.

:laugh:

Cast your mind back to the first and original Gulf war,hotel bookings in London were at an all time low.The reason:our American friends weren't travelling.Their reason:London is near Baghdad!

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Originally posted by Wolfmann > Originally posted by anita> I'd go see Ultravox if they toured. But it would have to be one of the John Foxx-era line ups or the Midge Ure-era before Warren Cann split.> > I'd go see NO if they toured the midwest like around southwest Ohio....> > > :D:D:D:D:D:D> anita...this means nothing to me....slow motion....

I'd go see Ultravox with Midge or John too. Heck, I just heard that Erasure (of all bands) is coming near Grand Rapids (Chicago, I think). Freakin Erasure?!? If they can tour the US and not go broke, NO should be able to do it easily. They are just lazy old farts who don't feel like it. Let's stop kidding ourselves. It's not cause they can't or because they couldn't afford it. It's because they have gotten older, slower, and they don't have to do things they don't feel like anymore. So, why do it? For the fans? I doubt they care that much about the fans, if they did, the box set would have been different... as well as other releases.

Yer right about NO. A bunch of lazy slobs who don't care about the fans. I bet they don't even meet the fans after shows. At least PSB talked to us after the Detroit show. Shoot...Neil Tennant is older than Barney, Hooky, and Steve...

:D:D:D:D anita

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Originally posted by Wolfmann > If they can tour the US and not go broke, NO should be able to do it easily. They are just lazy old farts who don't feel like it. Let's stop kidding ourselves. It's not cause they can't or because they couldn't afford it. It's because they have gotten older, slower, and they don't have to do things they don't feel like anymore.

Bit harsh. They've toured Australia (further away from Manchester than the States, would you believe) and most of Europe this past year. Not everyone's world revolves around the US of A!

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Yeah, I decided that no matter when or where the next time they have a show, I am going(even the wife okayed it). That means west coast U.S.A. or even the U.K.. And that would be a great adventure for this small, midwestern town boy.

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Spotnick> Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I have a strange feeling they didn't tour on the East Coast due to the WTC incident...

Er, we Brits are made of a bit more mettle than that, Nick!

I didn't think the problem with WTC was people not travelling to the States, it was more Americans refusing to travel elsewhere, no?

Gigs - as far as I know - were offered in April and then August of last year, but were turned down. You can guess whose final decision that one was!

Funniest thing I heard when we were over for the Area:One stuff - Americans not flying to the UK because of ... mad cow disease! One woman we met in San Francisco had even delayed a year at University as a result.

:laugh:

strange...seeing as I would stomp through a pasture of mad cows just to see the order...or is that just me?!?!?!?!

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Originally posted by anita > Originally posted by Snucker lazy #%&!:mad:

Did you mean me???

anita

not you, the four old guys with musical instruments.:rolleyes:

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OK. I thought you were mad at me for not wanting to travel.

:D:D:D:D:D anita

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