_new_order_the_perfect_kiss(video)_vs_the_perfect_kiss(retro)_
'i know, you know'
ok neworder's,
as mentioned before,
both of these versions are
somewhat similar at first,
but there are differences...
i would rate them as such:
the perfect kiss (video):
audio quality [from laserdisc] :
bass - very good
treble - ok, has hissing, and high frequencies at times
vocals - clear and distinct
volume - very good
instrumentation - excellent
overall performance - excellent
the perfect kiss (retro):
audio quality [from cd] :
bass - very good
treble - very good
vocals - seems sometimes low, but mostly clear
volume - very good
instrumentation - excellent
overall performance - very good
bottom line
i still prefer the original video version over retro
although the 'new' recording been in the vaults
since '85 (18 years or so)...its very cool to
be able to hear yet another interpretation on it..
i think i've listened to the original so many
times, this one seems like almost a new version
of it.. but i'm very disappointed in bernards vocal
performance as the words come off very weak,
and quiet... somewhat subdued...
i think that's why they didn't use that version
for the final take of the video...
if you haven't heard the original video version,
get that one, and compare them..
(i wonder if the video for the 'retro' version
exists somewhere?)
for all the minor details see below...
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mix technical data
[new order the perfect kiss video v0.1]
vs
[new order the perfect kiss video outtake v0.1]
IMPORTANT note
all times are [APPROXIMATE], and may
be different on your CD player, MP3
or realaudio file...adjust as needed
analysis
song - the perfect kiss (video)
time - 9m:13s
song - the perfect kiss (video)[outtake]
time - 9m:56s
words : no
note : words are NOT confirmed....
(c) : 2003
NOTE : for this comparison, we will just
observe it when the vocals START and END
i've broken it up into parts...
the perfect kiss (video)vs [outtake]
time notes vocals
pre-vocal section
[video] [1st - pre-vocal section] 9:13-7:44 [1min29sec]
- -09:13 [silence]
- -09:09 [drum 1]
- -08:54 [drum 2]
- -08:40 [guitar 1]
- -08:21 [keyboard 1]
- -07:44 [keyboard 2]
[retro] [1st - pre-vocal section] 9:53-8:28 [1min25sec]
- -09:53 [silence]
- -09:52 [drum 1]
- -09:38 [drum 2]
- -09:23 [guitar 1]
- -09:05 [keyboard 1+guitar]
- -08:50 [keyboard 2]
- -08:28 [keyboard 3+guitar]
very similiar intros....
the drumbeats are about the same duration,
the keyboards start the same..
in the retro version, the keyboards are
much more predominant in the mix...as
are the guitars
vocal section verse 1
[video] [2nd - vocal section verse 1] 7:29-6:30 [59sec]
- -07:29 [vocal] I stood there beside myself
- -07:25 [vocal] Thinking hard about the weather
- -07:22 [vocal] Then came by a friend of mine
- -07:18 [vocal] Suggested we go out together
- -07:14 [vocal] Then I knew it from the start
- -07:11 [vocal] This friend of mine would fall apart
- -07:07 [vocal] Pretending not to see his gun
- -07:04 [vocal] I said "let's go out and have some fun"
- -07:00 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
- -06:52 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
- -06:46 [guitar+keyboard]
- -06:30 [keyboard 1+guitar]
[retro] [2nd - vocal section verse 1] 8:13-7:15 [58sec]
- -08:13 [vocal] I stood there beside myself
- -08:10 [vocal] Thinking hard about the weather
- -08:06 [vocal] Then came by a friend of mine
- -08:02 [vocal] Suggested we go out together
- -07:59 [vocal] Then I knew it from the start
- -07:55 [vocal] This friend of mine would fall apart
- -07:51 [vocal] Pretending not to see his gun
- -07:48 [vocal] I said "let's go out and have some fun"
- -07:44 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
- -07:36 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
- -07:30 [guitar+keyboard]
- -07:15 [keyboard 1+guitar]
here we see the beginning of the differences,
retro - right before the vocals start, a
guitar is heard much more clearly...and
bernards voice is much softer..at times
you can't hear the 'i know, you know' lines..
the keyboards drown him out at times..
video - the vocals are much more distint,
bernards voice is crisper, and much clearer..
however at times, there is some clipping
of the high frequencies...also, he seems
to be slurring 'land of love...' law?
vocal section verse 2
[video] [3rd - vocal section verse 2] 6:16-5:39 [37sec]
- -06:16 [vocal] I have always thought about
- -06:13 [vocal] Staying in and going out
- -06:09 [vocal] Tonight I should have stayed at home
- -06:05 [vocal] Playing with my pleasure zone
- -06:00 [vocal] He has always been so strange
- -05:57 [vocal] I'd often thought he was deranged
- -05:54 [vocal] Pretending not to see his gun
- -05:50 [vocal] I said "let's go out and have some fun"
- -05:47 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
- -05:39 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
[retro] [3rd - vocal section verse 2] 7:00-6:22 [38sec]
- -07:00 [vocal] I have always thought about
- -06:56 [vocal] Staying in and going out
- -06:52 [vocal] Tonight I should have stayed at home
- -06:48 [vocal] Playing with my pleasure zone
- -06:44 [vocal] He has always been so strange
- -06:40 [vocal] I'd often thought he was deranged
- -06:37 [vocal] Pretending not to see his gun
- -06:33 [vocal] I said "let's go out and have some fun"
- -06:29 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
- -06:22 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
retro - the bass guitar, and the drum claps seem
quieter in this mix... and bernards voice seems
to be higher in...'i have always..'
you do hear 'pleasure zone' very clearly though..
once again, the chorus of 'i know, you know' is
drowned out by the keyboards..
video - the vocals are much sharper and clearer,
and there's a more consistent level in bernards
voice, along with a few 'oohs' from him..
vocal section verse 3
[video] [4th - vocal section verse 2] 5:32-5:04 [28sec]
- -05:32 [vocal] when you are alone at night
- -05:29 [vocal] you search yourself for
- -05:27 [vocal] all the things that you believe are right
- -05:25 [vocal] if you give it all away
- -05:22 [vocal] you throw away your only chance
- -05:19 [vocal] to be here today
- -05:17 [vocal] then a fight breaks out on your street
- -05:14 [vocal] you lose another broken heart in a land of me(at?)
- -05:10 [vocal] my friend has took his final breath
- -05:07 [vocal] now i know the perfect kiss
- -05:04 [vocal] is the kiss of death
[retro] [4th - vocal section verse 2] 6:15-5:47 [28sec]
- -06:15 [vocal] when you are alone at night
- -06:12 [vocal] you search yourself for
- -06:10 [vocal] all the things that you believe are right
- -06:07 [vocal] if you give it all away
- -06:04 [vocal] you throw away your only chance
- -06:02 [vocal] to be here today
- -06:00 [vocal] then a fight breaks out on your street
- -05:57 [vocal] you lose another broken heart in a land of me(at?)
- -05:53 [vocal] my friend has took his final breath
- -05:50 [vocal] now i know the perfect kiss
- -05:47 [vocal] is the kiss of death
retro - another subdued vocal for this verse,
almost like bernards whispering the words..
once again, it seems rather muted..
video - bernards maintains the strong
vocal delivery for this verse, also
some of the keyboard notes stand out
more clearly...
instrumental ending
[video] [5th - instrumental ending] 5:02-0:00 [5min02sec]
- -05:02 [keyboard 3+guitar]
- -04:54 [guitar solo]
- -04:25 [keyboard chords 2+cowbell+drum pad]
- -04:18 [cowbell solo]
- -04:04 [spacey sound]
- -03:57 [drums+claps]
- -03:49 [spacey sound]
- -03:48 [keyboard notes]
- -03:35 [keyboard+frogs croaking]
- -03:20 [drums+frogs croaking+notes]
- -03:05 [metallic beat]
- -02:50 [cowbell solo+beat]
- -02:36 [cowbell solo+orchestral keyboard chords]
- -02:20 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords+cowbell]
- -01:59 [guitar2+chords+drums]
- -01:50 [guitar+chords+explosion]
- -01:40 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords+drums]
- -01:10 [guitar+guitar2+orchestral keyboard chords+drums]
- -00:30 [guitar+guitar2+orchestral keyboard chords]
- -00:15 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords]
- -00:08 [explosion]
- -00:03 [guitar string plucked]
- -00:00 [silence]
[retro] [5th - instrumental ending] 5:43-0:40 [5min03sec]
- -05:43 [keyboard 3+guitar]
- -05:38 [guitar solo]
- -05:16 [keyboard chords 2+cowbell+drum pad]
- -05:08 [cowbell solo]
- -04:47 [spacey sound]
- -04:37 [drums+claps]
- -04:32 [spacey sound]
- -04:30 [keyboard notes]
- -04:17 [keyboard+frogs croaking]
- -04:02 [drums+frogs croaking+notes]
- -03:48 [metallic beat]
- -03:33 [keyboards+cowbell solo+beat]
- -03:18 [cowbell solo+orchestral keyboard chords]
- -03:03 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords+cowbell]
- -02:50 [guitar2+chords+drums]
- -02:42 [guitar+chords]
- -02:27 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords+drums]
- -02:11 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords+drums+explosion]
- -01:57 [guitar+guitar2+orchestral keyboard chords+drums]
- -01:27 [guitar+guitar2+orchestral keyboard chords]
- -00:58 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords]
- -00:48 [explosion]
- -00:44 [guitar string plucked]
- -00:40 [pause-silence]
retro - the keyboard solos are different,
the orchestral chords don't quite sound
so sharp... the cowbells aren't as loud..
there's several different effects that
sound different, the explosions, the
spacey sounds...
the guitar solos, and the interleaving
of them near the end with the bass
sound quite different too..not quite
as complex and compelling...
its still a very good ending though..
video - theres quite a few differences here,
almost all the keyboard solos are different,
the chords sound somewhat similar,
the cowbell is sharper and more consistent
in this version...and the weird spacey
sounds have a longer duration in this
version..
many of the complex guitar parts and
solos are quite different, especially
near the end when bernard is playing..
crisp, clear drums, and a strong
metallic beat go throughout the
ending..
overall, a very strong finish
both versions are great,
however, i still prefer
the original video version...
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