Just heard this for the first time. Mmmmm. Good cause and all, but...I'm trying to be diplomatic here...I don't think they were actually awake when they recorded this.
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Vietnam: the verdict
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Judged on song quality alone, I reckon Vietnam is:
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great, classic New Order 5 (9%)
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solid, if somewhat unspectacular 26 (47%)
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zzzzzzzzzz - sorry, couldn't stay awake til the end 9 (16%)
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awful, they should have done it as The Other Two 8 (15%)
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quality doesn't matter, it's all about the cause 7 (13%)
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Well, I'd have to actually listen to the song to make a judgement... and since it's not released until the 21st...
Thanks, it's now on the first page :D
Actually, it's not bad.. compared to the original, typical New Order sounding..
Considering this is for charity, and they did quickly, it's good.
Now is it worth buying the CD? Well, it's for a good cause..
Originally posted by Marco Pleil Right Spotnick...somehow typical NewOrder-sounding, but as usual...the female backing vox do suck! At least Mr.Hook is in the mix. For the song itself...well not a highlight in songwriting, but thank god it's not their fault
BTW, is the album only available in the UK?
It's imported on Amazon.com at the (very) expensive price of $26.99 USD (that's almost $ 40 CDN)
It's £11.99 on Amazon UK's site.
I like it!!
as usual with NO...different than you'd expect but it grew on me.
I hated Brutal at first (thought it was too much of a rip off of Oasis' sound) but it grew on me as well...
Hope is nowhere to be found on any dutch sites. As for Vietnam, maybe it'll grow on me. That's the nicest I can think of saying about it.
I really liked how new order tacked on the chorus to "The Harder they Come" on the end of the song, which is probably the best Jimmy Cliff Song....
Ok...here is what I like and don't like about it...
BTW I think that a lot of people will mistake this for happy and uplifting but it is actually dark with chirpy music written over it...kind of ironic. There are also a lot of NO fans who don't like the idea of NO making a catchy, bouncy popish kind of song...these are the same ones who hate WIM, such a good thing, player in the leage, shellshock
I Hate:
--The cheesy keyboard (accordian sounding one)... --the female background... --The pronunciation of the "nam" in Vietnam like "ma'am" and not "nom" like in nom de plume. The vietnamese pronounce it the "nom" way...and I think it sounds better.
I Like:
--Hooky's bass...it would make just about any song listenable --It is different than anything I've really heard from them before...lighter and catchier. --The guitar work against the chorus is really pretty good. --Barney's singing...his singing style is evolving again..I'm going to start a thread on this momentarily...if he sings like this on the next record there is a good chance of them having a "hit" beyond the hardcore fans. He seems to have found a comfort zone within his (questionable) range and is not shouting/speaking the lyrics nor does he need a wall of sound to cover over him. --it is bittersweet and I like that!
i heard it only twice. my first impression is that it´s "good". it´s very attached from the original version, which is good in a cover. the backing vocals are practically the same. hooky´s bass (just how i thought) is low on the mix and it hasn´t all the protagonism that we are used to. well, at the end it gets better. the song has little "orderian" touchs that makes everything look nicer.
my global thought is that it´s a very "festive" version without being stupid. thumb up! 
I like it. Hooky's bass is understated but adds a nice countermelody to the song...it reminds me of something else but I can't quite place it. Bittersweet in the way only they can do so well.
The accordion vamp may be for reggae flava.
And the "harder they fall" outro is a nice touch...a little reference to the US perhaps?
Originally posted by Love Will Tear Us Apart Sounds nice.Is it a New Order production ?
that´s a VERY good question. the first one who purchase it please post the answer here. there´re many of us who want to know this. thank you.
It does go on a bit.
Like the lyrics about the telegram, and Mary with hair of gold and lips like cherry (Tom Jones in da house!)
Woeful......there, I said it. I know some of you are thinking it too, you just don't want to believe it. I don't want to believe it either but they do have an excuse: they didn't write it, it was quickly thrown together and was probably picked just because it is war related.
I sincerely hope that is a one off. I haven't been this annoyed since Nine Inch Nails released "Deep".
It was a terrible war and it went on far too long :p
Haven't heard it yet, and judging by the reviews so far, I'm missing it a little but not by much. (I'll let you know when I do get a chance to hear it)
I really like the music. Sounds really happy. :) (funny cause I think the song is ment to be sad)
The more I listen the more I like it.
Hooky is great in it. I Miss Gillian in it.
That background sound is so cool, Does not sound like New Order, until you hear hooky.
At Amazon.uk it's only 11.99 Pounds, It should only be about 26.00 Cad. But with shipping It should be around 30-35 Cad. It's the cheapest I can find. Anybody else?
HMV.uk I cant find it.
Sounds OK, its a pretty good song in the first place (as are most of Jimmy Cliff's stuff), though they don't seem to have done anything particularly exciting with it.
I guess I'll be buying it mostly for the cause and out of completeness.
Originally posted by 404 error they don't seem to have done anything particularly exciting with it.
that's it.
and it is nervy just after the third listening.
it's nearly embarassing to say that the more i listen to it, the more i like it. i like the tension between the happy tune and the sad background, reminds me a bit of "Mr. Disco"...and the guitars are great. 
Please keep in mind this was a rush project...
Now, it's a proof they are doing something.. isn't it?
sorry, but this is TOTAL crap! How can anyone defend this. This is someting for a weddingparty played by a fifth-rate combo. Just because they are NO, doesnt mean they can record everything. They have become lazy and lost their self-criticsm. Are they really over the top after all? They already took a risk with crappy songs like slow jam, RTS and Such a good thing. Boy, is this disappointing. Where will it end?
Originally posted by Nanne Visser a.k.a. SkullCrusher sorry, but this is TOTAL crap! How can anyone defend this. This is someting for a weddingparty played by a fifth-rate combo. Just because they are NO, doesnt mean they can record everything. They have become lazy and lost their self-criticsm. Are they really over the top after all? They already took a risk with crappy songs like slow jam, RTS and Such a good thing. Boy, is this disappointing. Where will it end?
Exactly. but I'll still buy it.
