Rate "Vietnam"

Finally found a bit of time to listen to it off of the album's website. Not as bad as a thought it could've been, found myself playing it four straight times. Never would've expected them to cover a reggae song (I guess they probably wouldn't do such a good job on Max Romeo's War Ina Babylon, though that song is certainly more timely lyricwise).

Just a bit of fun for a great cause, I gave it a 5 cause it'll never be one of my all time faves, nor will I shrink from the thought of having to hear it again in my life. I'll probably buy the album at some poing, especially cause I really liked the Spiritualized song.

it's a reggae song? i'm not famillar with the original at all.

i gave it a 5, just cuz it sounded a bit like a disco song, kinda cheesy and forgettable. very very

i'm usually pretty forgiving about new order rarily had i had such a bad reaction to a new order song. or cover.

damn, pushed the wrong button. sorry.

I actually quite like it. Great arrangement, although the backup singer needs to come in near the end, not the whole bloody song.

Barney's vocals are rather good, the guitar work is nice, Hooky's bass is well utilized, and Steve's drumming is top as always. Eight it is.

It has some good elements but ultimately is below average for New Order. I rate it a 4.

It could have been worse. Much, much worse.

I gave it two, I hope to never hear it again. Definite contender for the worst ever New Order song.

i'd give it a "6". i don't like the original, but i think the Order did a good job, the guitars are great, Hooky also, but as usual, the background singers do suck!

I gave it 7 cause New Order always deserves a good rate.

It's ok. I give it a 7, but i know i'm overrating the song. Can't make justice with New Order

Gave it a 5, not bad when put into perspective: a cover...of a reggae song...a put up job for a carity thing...I was dreading the result...not bad, not bad at all

Not too good either, though!

I gave it a 6, which was being nice to it. Its an OK 'quick cover' with one or two interesting bits, but overall, it ain't really gonna get anywhere near my top 100 NO tunes.

One...very disappointed with this!

I gave it a 0.Its total crap. Its embarassing. Its a big stain on a wonderful collection of high intelligent songs. On the other hand they cant do something more worse than this one.

geezus...

seems like a nice little track to me, well arranged, and the guys sound comfortable, having some fun like back in the 80s... production not as bloated as the get ready tracks...

think it makes a positive point for the guys coolness, along with the Back to Mine mix, and that they are not taking themselves too serious...

odd... makes you wonder what people want, if they even know...

I give it a 6.

But if I listen to it 3 or 4 times in a row, I think I'll give it a 6-gun shot...

An 8? Someone is deaf, or they don't own any NO album before Republic. Are they have that blind "Everything NO does is awesome" thing going on. This song SUCKS way worse than Rock The Shack did. If I was captured and this song was fed to me through headphones, I would tell them anything they want to know.

Originally posted by Rocket Mick One...very disappointed with this!

You are a little generous...

I don't think I could be more disappointed... kind of makes you scared about the next album.

Originally posted by Wolfmann > Originally posted by Rocket Mick> One...very disappointed with this!

You are a little generous...

I don't think I could be more disappointed... kind of makes you scared about the next album.

I fully agree. Although i'm very happy that they are playing again, crappy songs is the least you want or even would expect. Rock the shack may not be great but it is a proof of them being unpredictable. This cover proofs they have become lazy and uninspired. Maybe we should form a committee to judge the new material before releasing it. That maybe a way to create a better world :)

I think it's worthy of a 5, Hooky's bass is nice, The chorus would be good if that awful woman did make it so overblown. In fact, her backing vocals are quite terrible, so desperate to be soulful that they come across far too contrived. But Barney sounds good.

It's shite - but after a couple of listens it stuck in my head for the rest of the day

Originally posted by King Eric It's shite - but after a couple of listens it stuck in my head for the rest of the day

Shite stuck in your head for the reat of the day? I hope you took a shower before bed.

It's very cheerful for a song about death. It's a little bit cheesy, but just when you think it's going to kill you, it gets a bit better again. I gave it a 7, because initially I didn't mind it. And I usually end up liking most New Order tracks after I listen to them like 5 or 6 times. Like Such A Good Thing and Player In The League. And Brutal, actually. I love all three of those songs now. But wow, New Order must really be in a good mood lately. The cheerful sound of Such A Good Thing was repeated in Vietnam. Oh well. I like the song, though it's not a top song in any way. The lyrics are a bit nerdy. But yeah.

NOTE: Someone said they never could have imagined New Order covering reggae. Remember Turn The Heater On?

NOTE2: Someone said Vietnam is not a New Order song. Well, it may not have been written by New Order, but it has been played by New Order. So in my eyes it's still a New Order song. As is Turn The Heater On. But it's also a Jimmy Cliff song, just as Turn The Heater On is also a Keith Hudson song.

NOTE3: Sorry if I'm annoying. :D

I scored it an 8 when it probably should have been a 5-6. I found that listening to it in the car while driving on a nice day with the sunroof open and the wind blowing about the song improves ... it has a very summery flava to it.

Finally heard 'Vietnam' for the first time on John Peel. It`s damn good; better than anything off 'Get Ready'

Originally posted by James Stephen Barnes Finally heard 'Vietnam' for the first time on John Peel. It`s damn good; better than anything off 'Get Ready'

Originally posted by James Stephen Barnes Finally heard 'Vietnam' for the first time on John Peel. It`s damn good; better than anything off 'Get Ready'

You are RIGHT!

This song cries out for the remixing talents of Mr Sly & Mr Robbie.

I would have voted 7 and a half if it'd been an option...

On further listening I think its pretty good actually. But then I always liked the original, being a J Cliff fan. But obviously by NO standards its not a TF or BM or anything.

It probably would have had a lot more resonance if the war had still being going on. In the light of recent events maybe a cover of Sunday Bloody Sunday or The More I See The Less I Believe would be more appropriate.

I love that performance!!!! yahoooooo New Order rocks back! Anyway it's far better than any stuff on Get Ready with the little exception of Crystal.

can't believe this many people actually like this. I would have bought the album because of its good cause, but since we've got a dutchified version over here I won't bother and just donate some cash.

Originally posted by The Robot This song cries out for the remixing talents of Mr Sly & Mr Robbie.

Good idea, providing S&R don`t massacre it like they did 'Ruined In A Day'.

Sly & Robbie will never surpass their collaboration with Mick Hucknall on Simply Red`s cover of the reggae classic 'Night Nurse'

Right, I finally got my copy of the Hope album today, and have reached the opinion that this isn't bad at all. My opinion of it has risen since the previous low quality listens on the Hope website.

Of course, it is not classic New Order, and it won't be troubling any home-made compilations any time soon. But...well, I'd rather have this than Chemical. (Or is that damning by extremely faint praise??!)

Major bad point is too much Dawn. Nothing personal against her. However, I think that somebody must be trying to push her forward to eventually usurp Barney as lead vocalist. Enough is enough, people! But I get the feeling we will be hearing more from her on the next album...

And I'd just like to add that, as a bit of a reggae lover, I bought a ticket to see Jimmy Cliff in Edinburgh next month.

Zero.

"Vietnam" is terrible, terrible.

The real Merv would love this rendition... along with the the crew down at The Pacific Retirement Village home for the aged

NICE CHEESY UP-LIFTING POP 4 THE SUMMER!!!!!!!!!!! THE HARDER THEY COME!

For a Jimmy Cliff song, newOrder have rocked the socks off it.