JD/NO/ Factory Books

i admit to being a slacker and not reading any related books the last decade or more...

i'm gonna import the Saville book, and i think i'll get Touching from a Distance about Ian... but how about one more...?

how about From Joy Division to New Order: The True Story of Anthony H Wilson and Factory Records
Mick Middles?

or Joy Division: Love Will Tear Us Apart
Kevin Cummins, Ian Rankin (Introduction)

or Tony Wilson's version of 24 hour party people (which some have said is not worth the bother...)

any others to track down...?

opinions

brian edge's book 'pleasures and wayward distractions' is fairly interesting. it's short and to the point.

you can't beat deborah curtis' book, though, for the early years.

Originally posted by AgentWood brian edge's book 'pleasures and wayward distractions' is fairly interesting. it's short and to the point.you can't beat deborah curtis' book, though, for the early years.

I would agree - Pleasures is a good NO book. The one obvious JD must have, best JD book (only one worth reading) is Touching...

I thought the Mick Middles book was excellent

How many verisons of Pleasures are there, the release date in the Discography section is 1984 but mine ends after Brotherhood, there is no mention of the Ibiza sessions, Technique or anything further, was there a further update ? I wasn't impressed with its writing, and pictures seem to be mostly from the same sessions (but they are nice pictures). I liked the Ideal for Living book for the early years, if you skip the quasi-intelectual bits.

People are probably gonna hate me for saying this but I really enjoyed 'Dreams Never End' by Claude Flowers. Sure, Flowers gets annoying at times trying to decipher non-existent meanings to JD/NO songs, but as a neat, potted history of both bands which you can pick up & read, it ain`t half bad.

I like Mick Middles book too, but there`s too much about irrelevant punk outfits & A Certain Crappy Ratio. Plus Tony Wilson is in there too often being his usual tosspot self

Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak How many verisons of Pleasures are there, the release date in the Discography section is 1984 but mine ends after Brotherhood, there is no mention of the Ibiza sessions, Technique or anything further, was there a further update ? I wasn't impressed with its writing, and pictures seem to be mostly from the same sessions (but they are nice pictures). I liked the Ideal for Living book for the early years, if you skip the quasi-intelectual bits.

the book was released in 1984, and an updated edition was released in 1988.

Johnson's long out of print "Ideal for Living" is pretty in-depth, although there's some incoherent bollox from Paul Morley every step of the way, more's the pity.

Johnson could really do with updating his book, but after the infamous Tolworth scooter gag, I rather suspect he beat a hasty retreat from the group :p

I own 4 of the books mentioned!If only i could READ:D

Touching is a very good book So is Ideal Bit disappointed with Pleasures Mick's book is a good read

I enjoyed Wilson's book of the film. Better than the film actually. It is full of his usual thought-provoking/entertaining insight/bullshit. There are also a few scenes that didn't make the film and it gives extra details to make sense of some other scenes. I was particularly disappointed that the Ogden's front room did not make it into the film.

Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak How many verisons of Pleasures are there, the release date in the Discography section is 1984 but mine ends after Brotherhood, there is no mention of the Ibiza sessions, Technique or anything further, was there a further update ? I wasn't impressed with its writing, and pictures seem to be mostly from the same sessions (but they are nice pictures). I liked the Ideal for Living book for the early years, if you skip the quasi-intelectual bits.

Mine ended with Brotherhood too.

just bought touching from a distance. read a few passages, but haven't had the time to read it cover to cover.

I've thought about ordering Touching, but it seemed a bit like invasion of privacy to me...how much of it is about the band and the music, and how much is about Ian and Deborah's private life ?

Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak I've thought about ordering Touching, but it seemed a bit like invasion of privacy to me...how much of it is about the band and the music, and how much is about Ian and Deborah's private life ?

50% to each other

I have a book entitled "Joy Division" by Mike West published by Babylon books (1984). It's a good if rather short introduction to the band.

Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak I've thought about ordering Touching, but it seemed a bit like invasion of privacy to me...how much of it is about the band and the music, and how much is about Ian and Deborah's private life ?

It is not an invasion of privacy in my opinion. Deborah is sharing with the reader what she wanted to tell us about her relationship with Ian, the good times and the bad and his life as an idealist / wannabe rock star.

To me she has made that choice to do that and when I read the book I didn't feel like I was prying or being voyeuristic or creeping around their underwear drawer. It is written well and I really felt for her. It does not paint a great picture of Ian but it does feel to be an honest depiction of how he was. And that was why it was / is such a good book.

Originally posted by Adam Tate I have a book entitled "Joy Division" by Mike West published by Babylon books (1984). It's a good if rather short introduction to the band.

Yes i got this one too from MUFFY.What a great guy he is giving us this.Short but sweet!