New Order - unplugged?

I recently found this about New Order in an article about the Metro Club in Chicago. Basically, the ownerJoe Shanahan (sp?) is recalling his favorite gigs there or something like that: 2. New Order, 1983: "That was an incredible experience. Joy Division never made it to America because [vocalist] Ian Curtis killed himself on the eve of the tour. When New Order came, it was one of the hottest days in the city of Chicago's history. 'Blue Monday' had been a huge club hit--it was like the change of music going from guitar-based punk to synthesizer-based New Wave or post-punk--but at that show, the power went down onstage because it was so hot in the club. Before it came back on they did a sort of 'New Order unplugged,' and it was the closest thing to Joy Division playing 'Blue Monday,' because they had to play it with just guitar and drums and none of the electronic gear."

Now, how much did this version of "Blue Monday" sound like the original signal if they had no electronic equiptmemt? Judging from the TOTP performance of BM, they needed all those synthesizers and drum machines. Perhaps Steve took out his drum kit and actually played the opening? Still, it'd sound awfully strange and weak, in my opinion. Has anyone heard of this gig? Or, even better, might anyone have a copy of a bootlegg of this show?

I´d like to hear it too.

This tape is THE rarest of all NO bootlegs. I've only ever known one person have it, Simon Short from Lincoln, and he wouldn't part with it for love nor money. He wouldn't even tell me the setlist !!

Originally posted by Benny's Cobweb Eyes This tape is THE rarest of all NO bootlegs. I've only ever known one person have it, Simon Short from Lincoln, and he wouldn't part with it for love nor money. He wouldn't even tell me the setlist !!

What a selfish bastard !

In the cut and thrust world of New Order tape trading back in the mid 1980s, it wasn't at all unknown to have "RSO" (rare swaps only) tapes and items that absolutely nobody could get their mitts on. My eyes were opened by Dave Simpson (later the Melody Maker and now Observer journalist), who had a fantastic collection and was a really generous guy, who gave me his shit-hot copy of Athens 82. I used to have a few items that were very rare in their day, but now they are pretty widely circulated.

Last year I decided that anyone who wanted them could have them, hence the semi-frequent giveaways on here. Who the fook am I to charge people for a recording ?

Originally posted by ShugZV©
> Originally posted by Benny's Cobweb Eyes In the cut and thrust world of New Order tape trading back in the mid 1980s, it wasn't at all unknown to have "RSO" (rare swaps only) tapes and items that absolutely nobody could get their mitts on. My eyes were opened by Dave Simpson (later the Melody Maker and now Observer journalist), who had a fantastic collection and was a really generous guy, who gave me his shit-hot copy of Athens 82. I used to have a few items that were very rare in their day, but now they are pretty widely circulated. Last year I decided that anyone who wanted them could have them, hence the semi-frequent giveaways on here. Who the fook am I to charge people for a recording ?

I certainly remember the RSO's on loads of tape lists I received from people, always used to get on me tits Funnily enough Athens 82 was one of the first bootlegs I bought with me own money Congratulations on yer wedding, if I knew how much money I was gonna spend here, I would have come up and saved a few quid Sorry mate - hope you had a great day.....Hibster filled me in with the speech details

Thought you told me you were housesitting in Corby because your gran was going up to Scoatlin ? Fookin' radge !

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Benny's Cobweb Eyes This tape is THE rarest of all NO bootlegs. I've only ever known one person have it, Simon Short from Lincoln, and he wouldn't part with it for love nor money. He wouldn't even tell me the setlist !!

What happened to him?

He wrote a wonderful review in Paradise(was it?) of the June tour in 87 when he basically slated Finsbury, bigged up the Roxy, then completely dismissed the Hac gig, but did it all with such panache!

He needs to be hunted down and PERSUADED to give up a copy of the show. Can't anyone find him and get him drunk? He can't be much of a fan if he ragged on almost everything they did.

It really is for the benefit of the NO fans. :D:D:D:D

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Benny's Cobweb Eyes This tape is THE rarest of all NO bootlegs. I've only ever known one person have it, Simon Short from Lincoln, and he wouldn't part with it for love nor money. He wouldn't even tell me the setlist !!

What happened to him?

He wrote a wonderful review in Paradise(was it?) of the June tour in 87 when he basically slated Finsbury, bigged up the Roxy, then completely dismissed the Hac gig, but did it all with such panache!

He turned up on World in Motion for one post a few months ago. I haven't had an address for him since the late 1980s. Used to have some great tapes, but got fed up with NO around the time of Substance and got into Anthrax and Slayer instead !

Was that they guy who was complaining about Barney saying "thank you" too much at Finsbury 1987 from the Paradise review?

LMAO at that one!

l8rs,

Nick ;)

Originally posted by anita > Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Benny's Cobweb Eyes This tape is THE rarest of all NO bootlegs. I've only ever known one person have it, Simon Short from Lincoln, and he wouldn't part with it for love nor money. He wouldn't even tell me the setlist !!

What happened to him?

He wrote a wonderful review in Paradise(was it?) of the June tour in 87 when he basically slated Finsbury, bigged up the Roxy, then completely dismissed the Hac gig, but did it all with such panache!

He needs to be hunted down and PERSUADED to give up a copy of the show. Can't anyone find him and get him drunk? He can't be much of a fan if he ragged on almost everything they did.

It really is for the benefit of the NO fans. :D:D:D:D It is strange that it is so rare, comsidering that this was a performance at the Metro, which is a fairly well-known club in the States. But, then again, in the States, any NO bootleg is hard to come by. And even bootleggs of US bands, like the Smashing Pumpkins, my favorite band that has played several times at the Metro, are incredibly expensive and of poor quality. I think, for SP, the average price I've seen for a boot in Philadelphia has been $32.00, although I once found this rare, good-quality boot from '88 for only $10. But I'm going :topic:

The Acoustic version of Blue Monday would surely sound like it did in 24 hour Party People as sang by john simm. So depressing I almost cut my wrists.

I thought the acoustic version was quite beautiful.

Technically, Steve could have used the low tom tom and bass drum to create the famous '9 beat' Blue Monday stomp. Clubbing the bass drum with his foot and hitting the tom in sequence, or possibly just using the bass drum on the 4th and the toms to create the beat?

Not impossible - and I also would love to hear this unplugged curiosity.

Note that the drummer in SlipKnot is capable of drumming bass as quick as BM. Not sure if its the one with a penis for a nose or the one dressed as a clown.

Al - did you collect any of the fanzines? - me mate had the lot. Seem to recall he managed to snaffle a few rarities through comps. they ran. Could never be bothered meself, although that's probably down to coin.

Christ I'm not surprised.

Think me mate was keen on Last Orders? - and the Paradise one.

Last Orders (seem to remember a photocopied effort) had good content.

Would be worth finding your collection Al to see what the opinions were back then.

I own ALL the PARADISE magazines...all neatly kept but sadly don't have any LAST ORDERS.I once bought a magazine called DECADES and after several weeks i then sent £18 for some rare LIVE BOOTLEGS.It was only to a PO BOX in CARDIFF.Guess what..the magazine was NO MORE ,i lost my £18 and lost my faith in HUMANITY for 10 minutes.That's ENTERTAINMENT. DID ANYONE HERE ALSO GET TAKEN IN BY THIS SCAM?

Originally posted by Huntsman I thought the acoustic version was quite beautiful.Technically, Steve could have used the low tom tom and bass drum to create the famous '9 beat' Blue Monday stomp. Clubbing the bass drum with his foot and hitting the tom in sequence, or possibly just using the bass drum on the 4th and the toms to create the beat?Not impossible - and I also would love to hear this unplugged curiosity.Note that the drummer in SlipKnot is capable of drumming bass as quick as BM. Not sure if its the one with a penis for a nose or the one dressed as a clown.

I don't think it's the one dressed as a clown. He doesn't play drums, he plays "percussion," which, in Slipknot, basically means that he just bangs rubber tubs and oil drums with drum sticks. Still, the actual drummer of that band, even if he can drum bass as quick as "Blue Monday," can't keep a beat.

New Order unplugged ? It reminds me of when Baddiel & Newman took the piss out of electronic bands doing the unplugged MTV sessions like The Orb Unplugged and just standing there.

I've got images of New Order unplugged doing an emergency acapella version of Blue Monday now just like the Flying Pickets. I can just see it now....Barney's singing "How does it feel", Steve's going "diddle-diddle-diddle-diddle-duh-duh-duh-duh", Hooky's going "dow-dow-dow-dow" and Gillian's doing the long "aaaaaaaaaaaaah" bit in the background. That's a Christmas number one if I ever heard it.

Alan, it was actually Last Orders issue 5 that I remembered (just dug it out), and it was the Wembley Arena review from 10th December 1987 by Mike Collins (on the page next door to your review of the Belgian bootleg video of 17/12/85)!

"But where was the feeling, the passion, the sense of fun that is New Order's trademark? Where were the scathing remarks to the Southern audience? Barney's first "Thank, thank you very much" was sarcastic enough, but after thatm the "Thank you" sounded too true; thank you for your applause; thank you for making us megastars?"

LMAO!

The Finsbury Park review was actually in issue 4 of Last Orders by J. Ferguson:

"What they need is a kick up the arse. At least they didn't play f**king temptation tonight !"

Oh, and this issue also had a review by Alan of "Pumped Full Of Drugs"

Class fanzine, unfortunately my issue 4 has long since lost it's tracing paper cover - happened when I took it next door, and their dog attacked it!

l8rs,

Nick ;)

New Order doing an Unplugged session in my mind would be a bit pointless were it not for the novelty value alone - after all surely the strength of New Order's music lies in the synergy they create in bringing together electronic and conventional (acoustic) sounds. What would be the point of going unplugged? Not much, I don't think...