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Joy Division OCT 16TH 1979. PLAN K

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I saw this in lwtua website :

Subject: OCT 16TH 1979. PLAN K FOOTAGE CONFIRMED Name: Intermission Date Posted: Sep 4, 03 - 12:50 AM Message: If I can recall correctly, the man who is selling me the Malcolm Whitehead Film's (he says it is actually a run time of about 21 mins) name is Allen (only 35 dollars!) Another man by the name of Phillpe (indicating he is of french descent) came onto my chat today and we became very talkative about Joy Division. I told it him it was a shame that there are only 3 real videos that hint at their existence. He then tells me he has footage from 16-10-79 Plan K at Brussles. I am shocked and perplexed at this as I remember the opening footage in HATYM. He tells me he is still a big fan and that when he was living in Brussles, apparently a friend of his videotaped a large part of the concert (for personnal enjoyment). AND THIS GUY HAS IT IN HIS POSSESSION, it's not Super 8 (thank god) and the clarity is rather good. He tells me that there are only 7 ( not counting Atrocity Exhibition cuts) songs on this videotape as the early songs were missed due to his friend's lateness. He tells me this friend was actualy a regular gig-goer at the Plan K venue and he had a huge interest in the band and videotaped them at his own leisure. The 7 songs videotaped he tells me are: IN ORDER:

  1. Something Must Break (only 2nd time ever played live)
  2. Shadowplay
  3. Transmission
  4. Novelty (this track Ian is strumming along, rythym playing)
  5. These Days (my personal favourite)
  6. New Dawn Fades
  7. Atmosphere
  8. Atrocity Exhibition (although there is no actual footage of this one you can hear the song being played. This was the final song played that night. There are problems with the camera which is a shame.) It is guessed that there are in between 2-4 songs missed earlier in the concert. He has sent me about 15 pictures of the actual video and some shots of the movie playing in his VCR (greatness!). He tells me it is for North-American VCR's (NTSC)even though he moved from Belgium long after it was taped. Well, he knows it is rare and isn't skimpy on prices. He offered it to me for 80 dollars and I will gladly go along. I will know have in my pocession one of the rarest JD treasures of all time. I am yet to know if the song most widely seen on HATYM is among these songs taped as I have not recieved the video yet. I wonder how much these lost treasures could fetch on eBAY??????) bye

Any comments???

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Julio, do you have any of the something must break live? I always looked for but had never found. I thought they never played!

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Originally posted by She don't know... Julio, do you have any of the something must break live? I always looked for but had never found. I thought they never played!

According to Steve Morris they played it only once, and it wasn't at Plan K!

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We know Atmosphere may have been played at this show - photo evidence exists, and we know that Atrocity was played - silent HATYM footage.

I'll wait to hear/see the rest before I believe it though ! This was the opening night of Plan K, so he can't have been that much of a regular !!!!!

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SMB was played twice according to LWTUA website. Unfortunately I do not have a live version here with me,Andrei. Tim and Ricardo,do you believe this video really exists? And who's that guy called Intermission who bought that video?

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Originally posted by Love Will Tear Us Apart Tim and Ricardo,Do you belive there's a video of this concert?

Seeing is believing.

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It all seems a little too good to be true - not just a standard set but Something Must Break and Novelty present...a bit like the phantom Rainbow tape that's got Decades on it (maybe!). I take it Mr. Intermission hasn't e-mailed you the photgraphic proof yet, Julio?

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Originally posted by Philip Collins It all seems a little too good to be true - not just a standard set but Something Must Break and Novelty present...a bit like the phantom Rainbow tape that's got Decades on it (maybe!). I take it Mr. Intermission hasn't e-mailed you the photgraphic proof yet, Julio?

Not yet Phil.

Hope soon.

Need to know who is him.

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Originally posted by Brian "Baldy" Eno > Originally posted by She don't know...> Julio, do you have any of the something must break live? I always looked for but had never found. I thought they never played!

According to Steve Morris they played it only once, and it wasn't at Plan K!

Where was the other ocasion? No notice of recording?

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Originally posted by She don't know... > Originally posted by Brian "Baldy" Eno> > > > Originally posted by She don't know...> > Julio, do you have any of the something must break live? I always looked for but had never found. I thought they never played!>

According to Steve Morris they played it only once, and it wasn't at Plan K!

Where was the other ocasion? No notice of recording?

Canterbury Odeon, June 79 (according to Steve Morris in that Mark Johnson book). No recording exists.

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Originally posted by Philip Collins It all seems a little too good to be true - not just a standard set but Something Must Break and Novelty present...a bit like the phantom Rainbow tape that's got Decades on it (maybe!). I take it Mr. Intermission hasn't e-mailed you the photgraphic proof yet, Julio?

I'm more inclined to believe in that phantom Rainbow tape than I am this new revelation, at the moment at least.

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I'd like to believe in the Rainbow tape but surely something would've surfaced by now? Wasn't the 'Stranglers' set from that night given an official release tho'?

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I had a chance to go with some mates to the Rainbow gig (we were into the Stranglers at the time), but I chose to spend my hard-earned cash seeing Madness at the Hammersmith Odeon two weeks earlier. What a great decison that was :cry:

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Originally posted by Marko I had a chance to go with some mates to the Rainbow gig (we were into the Stranglers at the time), but I chose to spend my hard-earned cash seeing Madness at the Hammersmith Odeon two weeks earlier. What a great decison that was :cry:

Well, al least it was Madness...

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:violent:

Originally posted by Marko I had a chance to go with some mates to the Rainbow gig (we were into the Stranglers at the time), but I chose to spend my hard-earned cash seeing Madness at the Hammersmith Odeon two weeks earlier. What a great decison that was :cry:

:blaster:

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Oddly, Rainbow Theatre building is now owned by the Universal Church of the Kingdom of God (aka Igreja Universal do Reino de Deus), Brazil's fastest growing Pentecostal church, founded by self-ordained "Bishop" Edir Macedo. :nonono:

For those who read Portuguese: Sai, capeta.

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Were some Joy Division's roadies New Order's too?

I just remember Terry Mason.Who's that guy who sings in WIM on Hultsfred and Finsbury 2002?

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Originally posted by Love Will Tear Us Apart Were some Joy Division's roadies New Order's too?I just remember Terry Mason.Who's that guy who sings in WIM on Hultsfred and Finsbury 2002?

Damon - he's only a young lad.

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