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What is your favourite record Barney has been involved in outside of New Order and Electronic?

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Freaky Dancin' - Happy Mondays (Production) 1 (1%)
Security - The Beat Club (Vocals/Remixer) 6 (7%)
Won't stop loving you - A Certain Ratio (Remixer) 7 (8%)
Rockin' Over The Beat - Technotronic (Remixer) 2 (2%)
Spanish Heart - 808 State (Vocals) 8 (10%)
Good Together - A Certain Ratio (Vocals) 0 (0%)
This Time I'm Not Wrong - Sub Sub (Vocals) 10 (12%)
Shoot Speed/Kill Light - Primal Scream (Guitar) 5 (6%)
Out of Control - The Chemical Brothers (Vocals/Guitar) 40 (48%)
Other (?) 5 (6%)

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18 Mar 2006, 18:33

Mine would be Sub Sub's "This Time I'm Not Wrong" because I love Barney's vocal and the suitably rocking backing provided by soon-to-be Doves. Having said that Beat Club's "Security" and ACR's "Won't stop loving you" definitely stand out as quality early-90s dance records for me with the 12" mix of WSLY sounding like a stripped back and hypnotic drum machine test; nice one Barney! :nod:

The Chemical's "Out Of Control" isnae bad either and probably Barney's most famous collaboration outside of New Order/Electronic. A timely reminder (before Get Ready) of how great New Order could be even though it wasn't a New Order record! On the other hand I don't really care for his bizarre jam with Primal Scream :crazy: too close to Rock The Shack territory for me.

It'll be interesting to see what everyone thinks of Barney's various collaborations outside of his two main bands :)

18 Mar 2006, 18:47

Out of Control- I couldn't stop percolating to the intro beats (it's a dance move)

19 Mar 2006, 11:48

WSLY - love ACR so nice to see them collaborating...

Snorri xxx

20 Mar 2006, 03:25

although I really like Security and Out of Control, for me This time I'm not wrong is absolute tops! I love the lyrics, the music, the video, the lot ...

20 Mar 2006, 03:53

Spanish Heart :nod:

20 Mar 2006, 04:21

I like Section 25's From The Hip-album, which was produced and some tracks co-written by Barney.

20 Mar 2006, 05:26

Primal Scream's Shoot Speed Kill Light is one of their finest moments. Excellent guitar from Bernard (as reprised on Rock The Shack of course).

21 Mar 2006, 04:18

part of the greatest appeaL has just been to see what choices he's made where, with what type of project he gets involved in. sometimes not sure what to think but the feel is invariably good. mint quality..

edit-the versions/ options would make quite a mixed mp3.

21 Mar 2006, 12:31

Out of Control, hands down

:bow:

oh, i can't stop quoting you 'cos everything that you say rings true

22 Mar 2006, 02:16

security

24 Mar 2006, 05:30

What about Marcel King's Reach for Love?!

Barney's production (along with DoJo) is pitch perfect soulful electro boogie. The sound of a hot summer's night in 1984.

Lovely, lovely track, it's up there with Security, Won't Stop Loving You, and Looking from a Hilltop.

24 Mar 2006, 05:33

Emile Strunz wrote: What about Marcel King's Reach for Love?!

Barney's production (along with DoJo) is pitch perfect soulful electro boogie. The sound of a hot summer's night in 1984.

Lovely, lovely track, it's up there with Security, Won't Stop Loving You, and Looking from a Hilltop.

Yep- There's a lot of Barney heavy Bemusic stuff missing from the list...

Personally I loved those albums he did with Curtis, Hook and Morris...

:evil4:

...seriously though... it's either OUT OF CONTROL or SHOOTSPEED/KILLLIGHT.

Not heard the SubSub thing, which I'd love to get hold of as AINT NO LOVE AINT NO USE is one of my all time fave dance tracks!

24 Mar 2006, 10:34

The BeMusic artists weren't included in the poll options for the following reasons:

I couldn't be arsed typing out 2 albums worth of song titles along with the current list; once a poll goes beyond ten options it gets a bit silly. If your favourite Barney collaboration happens to come from either BeMusic compilation then feel free to vote for "Other (?)" and, if you like, post briefly which one it is.
BeMusic wasn't just Barney, it was an alias used by all four members of New Order with Hooky using it in the first instance. Not to say Barney wasn't responsible for a sizeable chunk of the music on the BeMusic compilations of course.

Hope that clears that up...

24 Mar 2006, 10:44

"WHEN YOU'RE SICK AND TIRED..........." :love:

24 Mar 2006, 14:29

"...and maybe you think this moustache is too much"

24 Mar 2006, 14:37

Maya wrote: Spanish Heart

Definitely!

24 Mar 2006, 23:28

I just discovered 808 State a few weeks ago, and I adore "Spanish Heart"! Barney's lovely voice and quintessentially-Barney lyrics in conjunction with 808 State's juicy chords are simply awesome.

27 Mar 2006, 11:01

She's out of control I'm afriad. it is great. Though Barney's vocals are editted - but not completely - Sasha's Dub is brilliant. Alas it is only available on blue vinyl on the US Promo. Well worth hunting down mind.

27 Mar 2006, 12:56

as ever and forever wrote: She's out of control I'm afriad. it is great. Though Barney's vocals are editted - but not completely - Sasha's Dub is brilliant. Alas it is only available on blue vinyl on the US Promo. Well worth hunting down mind.

I did a conversion of the 12" Sasha Club Mix (the Mix on the CD single is an Edit) to CDR when I bought it back in 99 but haven't heard the Dub.

I bet it's available on some massively expensive promo CD somewhere :(

28 Mar 2006, 03:33

A yhm. Cheers

28 Mar 2006, 08:11

Alistair wrote:

as ever and forever wrote: She's out of control I'm afriad. it is great. Though Barney's vocals are editted - but not completely - Sasha's Dub is brilliant. Alas it is only available on blue vinyl on the US Promo. Well worth hunting down mind.

I did a conversion of the 12" Sasha Club Mix (the Mix on the CD single is an Edit) to CDR when I bought it back in 99 but haven't heard the Dub.

I bet it's available on some massively expensive promo CD somewhere :(

CD jp 1999 Virgin VJCP-61028

1-01 Chemical Brothers Out of Control Radio Edit 3:58
1-03 Chemical Brothers Out of Control Sasha Remix 7:18
1-04 Chemical Brothers Out of Control Sasha Club Mix 11:01
1-05 Chemical Brothers Out of Control Sasha Instrumental Mix 13:25

:shades:

Probably also on some compilations, I would imagine?

28 Mar 2006, 09:47

good work Nick.

forgive my misinformation it is the "Sasha Instrumental mix" and not a "Dub" mix. Even then a fair portion of Barney's vocals survive. The mix is available also on the US Promo Blue vinyl ASW PRO 9930. The mix comes in at 13:22 so a full 2:22 longer than the 11:00 Sasha Club Mix.

29 Mar 2006, 11:08

Security.

Killer track.

I have the original White Label 12".......except I wrote on the white label :nonono: I was young and very fucking stupid!

29 Mar 2006, 14:13

Shug wrote: Security.

Killer track.

I have the original White Label 12".......except I wrote on the white label I was young and very fucking stupid!

And now you're old and ...

:ignore: :rofl:

30 Mar 2006, 06:51

Dave Legge wrote:

Shug wrote: Security.

Killer track.

I have the original White Label 12".......except I wrote on the white label I was young and very fucking stupid!

And now you're old and ...

yep - still stupid ;)

30 Mar 2006, 11:07

Hurt - New Order

30 Mar 2006, 11:21

Binocher wrote: Hurt - New Order

:abovelol:

30 Mar 2006, 13:20

Binocher wrote: Hurt - New Order

I had you down as more of a Blue Monday man Mike!

:laugh:

30 Mar 2006, 21:41

I had you down as more of a Blue Monday man Mike!

There is no need for that

31 Mar 2006, 08:13

Spanish heart with 808 State

3 Apr 2006, 20:30

the instrumental mix is found on cd on this compilation:

Various - Rarewerks

http://www.discogs.com/release/551930

7 Chemical Brothers, The Out Of Control (Sasha Instrumental Mix) (13:22)

later -1

4 Apr 2006, 09:47

out of control. one of the chemicals' best songs ever.

17 Apr 2006, 04:12

Out of control - class in a glass

1 May 2006, 10:30

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/the-CHEMICAL-BROTHERS-NEW-ORDER-ULTRA-RARE-PROMO\_W0QQitemZ4871497216QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

available on ebay at the moment for those that are interested.

1 May 2006, 12:48

Mmm, does no-one like Freaky Dancing? It's one of my favourite Happy Mondays-records. And in fact I like the b-side "The Egg" even better. Great Production-work by Barney!

14 May 2006, 09:55

Shug wrote: Security.

Killer track.

I have the original White Label 12".......except I wrote on the white label I was young and very fucking stupid!

I knew there was a reason I thought you were like a brother....

now you just have to figure out exactly what I mean by that!!!

11 Jul 2006, 15:59

I was going to say "Out of Control" but I never knew of Barney's involvement in ACR's "Won't Stop Loving You". So my vote goes there. A fookin perfect pop tune!

As for Technotronic, now you're talking... "Rolling over the melody, rocking over the beat, jumping, jam trip on this (or something)..."

Fannytastic :nod:

15 Jul 2006, 04:35

I managed to land a copy of Ripe by Banderas recently, after a few copies surfaced mysteriously after being seemingly unavailable for years. I'm sure Bernard and Johnny Marr had something to do with this band but not sure exactly what. anyways some cool songs on there - the comfort of faith, may this be your last sorrow, its written all over my face, she sells, this is your life...

Never managed to find another copy of Freaky Dancin/The Egg, that got left behind somewhere :(

15 Jul 2006, 05:00

Spanish Heart.

19 Jul 2006, 03:39

Where's Looking from a Hilltop? That would be my pick.

20 Jul 2006, 05:18

Deffo ACR's "Won't stop loving you" - love the way the beats start and stop, slow down and speed up - brilliant.

Have also always liked Section 25's "Inspiration" the last track on "From the Hip" - contender for the most New Order sounding track not by New Order. "Inspiration" could have fitted right onto PCL no problem.

31 Aug 2006, 08:07

[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote: Mine would be Sub Sub's "This Time I'm Not Wrong" because I love Barney's vocal and the suitably rocking backing provided by soon-to-be Doves. Having said that Beat Club's "Security" and ACR's "Won't stop loving you" definitely stand out as quality early-90s dance records for me with the 12" mix of WSLY sounding like a stripped back and hypnotic drum machine test; nice one Barney!

I must say this is my favorite one too. I still remember when i bought the single. I found this small record shop and the entrance was just a staircase with a sign. I went up and looked in the neworder section and found SUB SUB with Bernard Sumner. I thought I would give it a try and it was an excellent choice. I absolutely love the Sub Sub album Delta Tapes it was very adventguard.

31 Aug 2006, 09:08

Adam Tate wrote:

Have also always liked Section 25's "Inspiration" the last track on "From the Hip" - contender for the most New Order sounding track not by New Order. "Inspiration" could have fitted right onto PCL no problem.

Heard that for the first time today, very impressed by From The Hip

17 Oct 2010, 14:39

Miracle Cure, followed by Spanish Heart.

17 Oct 2010, 23:19

seals wrote: I managed to land a copy of Ripe by Banderas recently, after a few copies surfaced mysteriously after being seemingly unavailable for years. I'm sure Bernard and Johnny Marr had something to do with this band but not sure exactly what. anyways some cool songs on there - the comfort of faith, may this be your last sorrow, its written all over my face, she sells, this is your life...

Never managed to find another copy of Freaky Dancin/The Egg, that got left behind somewhere :(

I seem to recall that Bernard produced their "This is Your Life" single. At the time, Johnny Marr said Bernard had some guitar bits in mind for the track but talked Marr into actually working out and performing them.

"Out of Control" takes it though. "Won't Stop Loving You" is a great track but Barney's contribution of lyrics/vocals and guitar to the Chemical Brothers track gives it the edge as a full fledged collaboration.

22 Oct 2010, 09:44

TTINW gets my vote - cracking single, video, sleeve + introduced me to the Doves :clap:

26 Oct 2010, 19:22

Tie between Out of Control and Miracle Cure. New Converse single isn't bad either. :nod:

22 Feb 2011, 08:01

I like his work with New Order :laugh:

14 Mar 2011, 10:07

'Shine Like The Sun' and 'Walk On Silver Water' by Bad Lieutenant because of Alex James on bass... :')

I'm a big Blur fan too so the fact he played with Bernard is just amazing to me ok :love2:

15 Mar 2011, 10:08

You should also add the Hot chip // Bernard Sumner song also, "Didn't know what lave was" , on the list ,that is also a great song .

25 Nov 2011, 04:54

I'll go for temptation - New Order :)

📊What is your favourite record Barney has been involved in outside of New Order and Electronic?

What is your favourite record Barney has been involved in outside of New Order and Electronic?