If Monaco were to release an anthology-type compilation... — Forum Archive

11 Apr 2007, 02:21

...what would you like to see on it?

This is purely speculative of course as no firm plans have been announced but it's a good chance for fans to say what they would like to see on such a compilation. Monaco had more songs and far more actual chart success than Revenge so an anthology of some sort can't be out of the question.

I can quote Hooky directly from the recent Hard Rock Cafe reunion that he was currently in the process of "buying back the rights" for the Monaco stuff (presumably from Polydor or Papillon) and would "have something for us soon".

Going by the standard 2 CD layout of OTPV2.0 I'd love to see the first disc cover all the best Monaco tunes (including choice b-sides) in one place and remastered.

The second disc could mop up:

- Single mixes / Remaining B-sides- Early demos such as Glass Box, Smoothie, 2nd album demos etc- Obscure remixes I.e. Sweet Lips (Joey Negro East Coast Groove).- More from the '97 GLR session that gave us Tender.- Live material including T In The Park '97, Glastonbury '98 & Melkweg 2000.- Monaco's version of Failures; a regular during the US '97 gigs.- Tim Burgess & Monaco playing Lonesome Tonight in '97.

If Hooky and Pottsy are working on such a compilation it certainly wouldn't hurt for fans to suggest what they would like to hear :nod: I think it would be a shame if we ended up with another "Get The Message" type compilation with absolutely nothing new or of real interest.

11 Apr 2007, 02:50

blimey!, that would mean finding all the DAT tapes from the gigs, better get busy :scratch: .would be good tho, i always liked shattered, or "you should be dancing", hooky at his discotastic best :lol:

11 Apr 2007, 03:20

old lead foot wrote: blimey!, that would mean finding all the DAT tapes from the gigs, better get busy .would be good tho, i always liked shattered, or "you should be dancing", hooky at his discotastic best

Nice one! Hooky and his stash of gigs is legendary anyway so there have got to be some cracking Monaco performances in there. Any personal favourites, Paul? The 10+ minute version of Junk from Glastonbury '98 is defo one of mine.

I've got an interesting audience recording of the El Rey theatre gig in LA from August '97 which has a cracking version of Failures... Hooky introduces the band one by one during the outro.

A cleaned up recording would be smart

11 Apr 2007, 03:37

old lead foot wrote: or "you should be dancing", hooky at his discotastic best

Yes! You Should Be Dancing must be included - and I'd love to hear that live version of Junk.

11 Apr 2007, 06:17

How about the recent Hard Rock mini-gig for which we have yet to hear on audio!

12 Apr 2007, 08:56

ther was also a remix of sweet lips that we did at the scala gig, it had a realy long outro which was just a big show off for me and andy poole(keyboard player #2), but not sure if we recorded it?. ho hum :\ohwell:

12 Apr 2007, 09:04

ther was also some video from reading 98, so maybe a dvd?

12 Apr 2007, 11:17

old lead foot wrote: ther was also some video from reading 98, so maybe a dvd?

I'd love to see some of that as my Hard Rock gig was my only real experience of Revenge/Monaco. Let's see what happens :wink: Cheers!

12 Apr 2007, 14:28

Alan Paul Kitching wrote:

old lead foot wrote: ther was also some video from reading 98, so maybe a dvd?

I'd love to see some of that as my Hard Rock gig was my only real experience of Revenge/Monaco. Let's see what happens Cheers!

Ditto...though methinks old lead foot is a tease for mentioning it :lol:

12 Apr 2007, 15:06

Minx wrote:

Alan Paul Kitching wrote:

old lead foot wrote: ther was also some video from reading 98, so maybe a dvd?

I'd love to see some of that as my Hard Rock gig was my only real experience of Revenge/Monaco. Let's see what happens Cheers!

Ditto...though methinks old lead foot is a tease for mentioning it

well you lot want to know these things :shrug: , it would have to be edited though cos from what i remember there were a couple of dodgy bits :ignore: .(like my shades) :lol:

12 Apr 2007, 16:37

old lead foot wrote:

Minx wrote:

Alan Paul Kitching wrote:

old lead foot wrote: ther was also some video from reading 98, so maybe a dvd?

I'd love to see some of that as my Hard Rock gig was my only real experience of Revenge/Monaco. Let's see what happens Cheers!

Ditto...though methinks old lead foot is a tease for mentioning it

well you lot want to know these things , it would have to be edited though cos from what i remember there were a couple of dodgy bits .(like my shades)

I was only kidding..(sort of) I think a DVD would be great, but I wont get my hopes up for it happening anytime soon. :shrug:

Love to see some stills of you with your dodgy shades on though :lol:

13 Apr 2007, 02:04

er NO :nono: :skeptic: :shades:

13 Apr 2007, 02:32

Minx wrote:

old lead foot wrote:

Minx wrote:

Alan Paul Kitching wrote:

old lead foot wrote: ther was also some video from reading 98, so maybe a dvd?

I'd love to see some of that as my Hard Rock gig was my only real experience of Revenge/Monaco. Let's see what happens Cheers!

Ditto...though methinks old lead foot is a tease for mentioning it

well you lot want to know these things , it would have to be edited though cos from what i remember there were a couple of dodgy bits .(like my shades)

I was only kidding..(sort of) I think a DVD would be great, but I wont get my hopes up for it happening anytime soon.

Love to see some stills of you with your dodgy shades on though

Can be arranged!!!!! :bag:

13 Apr 2007, 19:55

I like to hear a live song from the recent gig.

14 Apr 2007, 01:04

My request would be:

ALL THE B-SIDES!

As I'm missing some and I've yet to hear one track by Monaco that I don't like. Why the hell electronic didn't do this still eludes me... although that wasn't so upsetting as I had all their BSides.

15 Apr 2007, 11:02

I would love this and if any influence can be exerted ;) lets get it on!

26 May 2007, 06:37

well I won't hold my breath. But I missed out on 'Microbes' etc plus You Should Be dancing.

28 May 2007, 03:40

Hooky released "Microbes" renamed "Pumpkin" on CD 2 of the One True Passion V2.0 compilation so you can find it there. Had it down as more of Monaco sounding track personally (got that Trip Hop feel of Billy Bones) but Hooky obviously wanted it out under the Revenge banner.

"You Should Be Dancing" is on the "Gotta Get A Message To You" Bee Gees tribute CD from Polydor. Reasonably easy to find dirt cheap on Google/eBay but beware - there's an awful lot of shite on it.

29 May 2007, 15:20

I'd wished I'd been of a right mind to tape the gigs I went to - that whole year of following bands is a giant blur!

:evil4: But, if they could see to it we got a jam cd of alternate takes/noodling about in the studio I'd be really happy. Live stuff would never been frowned upon, either!

30 May 2007, 02:31

ally wrote: Hooky released "Microbes" renamed "Pumpkin" on CD 2 of the One True Passion V2.0 compilation so you can find it there. Had it down as more of Monaco sounding track personally (got that Trip Hop feel of Billy Bones) but Hooky obviously wanted it out under the Revenge banner.

"You Should Be Dancing" is on the "Gotta Get A Message To You" Bee Gees tribute CD from Polydor. Reasonably easy to find dirt cheap on Google/eBay but beware - there's an awful lot of shite on it.

... Cheers! Didn't know Microbes = Pumpkin. My biology teacher will be bemused.

30 May 2007, 02:53

nothing!!!

totally unappealing.

:thumbdown:

13 Jun 2007, 02:19

Happy with what we've got. Nowdays i'd rather hear new stuff than edits/remixes of songs i've already got on half a dozen CD's already.

24 Jul 2007, 06:15

I'd want all those demos that were released on the website and the B-sides to "I've Got A Feeling".

I've never heard any of them... :(

24 Aug 2007, 11:09

Question: Re: If Monaco were to release an anthology-type compilation...

Answer: It would be another waste of money for die-hard New Order collectors who collect anything that is related to New Order.

Indeed*!*

17 Sep 2007, 16:52

BillONdollar wrote: compilation? wot they've only made 2 albums.

just release the freakin unreleased tracks & mixes, some VIDEOS as bonus, as well as b-sides. there's no need for a compilation.

Er, before you chuck all of your toys out of the pram did you actually read the first post?

I suggested everything you wrote so not exactly sure why you've given this response unless you didn't read it.

Compilation can mean live and rare tracks... jeez... :brow:

26 Apr 2008, 03:56

I didn't ever pick up the sophomore album, so the cream of that album would be welcome, along with the Bee Gees cover that I never even heard.

14 May 2008, 05:47

Where was the Tim Burgess version of Lonesome Tonight recorded ? If it was for tv is it on Youtube ?

30 Jun 2008, 04:37

If I have one wish for this type of project it's that it's handed over to James Nice to curate. A quality end product is then assured.

4 Sep 2008, 00:09

pointless, put out another album... that would be interesting, but hidden tracks? Hell NO can't even do it well for the remasters.....

4 Sep 2008, 02:54

EdelBrock wrote: pointless, put out another album... that would be interesting, but hidden tracks? Hell NO can't even do it well for the remasters.....

With Hooky trying to finish off Freebass and constantly DJing I somehow don't think Monaco will be hitting the studio any time soon. Not to mention, Pottsy has his solo career and gigging on the go.

If you take a look at the Revenge One True Passion V2.0 compilation from LTM you'll see that Hooky has produced a worthy reissue of his previous work at least once. That compilation had it all: remastered, b sides, demos, rare mixes etc.

I wouldn't write off a Monaco reissue just yet... a 2 CD "V2.0" release combining the best of each album, the bsides, demos, live etc is a definite possibility; the material is there.

Monaco deserves a bit of a full stop just as Revenge got.

27 Jan 2009, 21:47

I'd be interested in this. I thought Revenge 2.0 was worthwhile.

16 Feb 2009, 11:23

... Far more so! I never got into Revenge, they looked like just an excuse for Hooky to gig. Monaco was far better, surely. Plus I missed 'You Should Be Dancing', the Xmas freebies and the 'I've Got A Feeling' B-sides.

8 Jan 2011, 09:46

... Oh and maybe 'Roll Up'? Not a Monaco track I know but...

26 May 2011, 12:34

No one seems to have mentioned the extra bonus track from MFP that was issued in the US only (Under The Stars) which was the theme to Mrs Merton Show....

Their first album was the missing link between Technique and Get Ready IMO and it still sounds good now.

The second one was not as good - four songs aside.

:p :read:

27 May 2011, 03:53

...aka Born to Kill, sometimes played by Revenge. Severe Brotherhood ripoff.

27 May 2011, 11:54

I spoke to Hooky about this after one of his spoken word gigs and he said the record company won't play ball in selling the stuff to him, which is a real shame. I loved the 'Monaco years' lots of fun gigs in small venues. I remember the liverpool lomax 2 where i think hookys opening gambit was ' I fookin hate scousers!'

of course if anybody wants to post these missing tunes.....

27 May 2011, 12:04

Michael Monkhouse wrote: ...aka Born to Kill, sometimes played by Revenge. Severe Brotherhood ripoff.

Yep - it's Weirdo isn't it?? :nod: :nod:

But then let's not forget that Hooky once said very candidly that he doesn't mind ripping himself off (there is quite a few for some reason on Brotherhood - Broken Promise = Isolation and then there's a bit in Way Of Life that cribs LWTUA)

:read:

29 May 2011, 00:29

Agreed, Mr Neck. And can somebody actually rip THEMESLVES off? In fact there are several bits of old Hooky in Monaco - 'EGG' in 'Shattered', 'Vicious Circle' in 'Sweet Lips'...

3 Jun 2011, 15:54

Michael Monkhouse wrote: Agreed, Mr Neck. And can somebody actually rip THEMESLVES off? In fact there are several bits of old Hooky in Monaco - 'EGG' in 'Shattered', 'Vicious Circle' in 'Sweet Lips'...

Isn't Sweet Lips also indirectly ripped off from an old Take That song (the chorus)? Something my wife Lorraine said to me at the time...and I can't help but believe her.

:skeptic:

4 Jun 2011, 01:10

Can't tell you as I would rather have sex with my father than listen to Take That. But sounds plausible. PS The computer bass-line to Mr Disco equals the one on State of the Nation, surely? PPS Agree it's a shame there'll be no Monaco repackaging, I think M4P is Hooky's most consistent work since Technique, and the 2nd LP is tragically under-rated/-available. Plus Hooky seemed to be having fun again after the Republic wilderness and Mrs Merton scandal - the website freebies, the gigs, the BeeGees thing etc. Good times indeed.

7 Jun 2011, 15:03

Michael Monkhouse wrote: Can't tell you as I would rather have sex with my father than listen to Take That. But sounds plausible. PS The computer bass-line to Mr Disco equals the one on State of the Nation, surely? PPS Agree it's a shame there'll be no Monaco repackaging, I think M4P is Hooky's most consistent work since Technique, and the 2nd LP is tragically under-rated/-available. Plus Hooky seemed to be having fun again after the Republic wilderness and Mrs Merton scandal - the website freebies, the gigs, the BeeGees thing etc. Good times indeed.

Agree fully about that first Monaco album and the period surrounding it seeing Hooky looking very happy, relaxed and at ease with himself. It shows in the records too - they were great pop records and they charted very respectably too. Unthinkable now when you look back really. I guess it was because Monaco's debut album arrived at the right time - dead in the middle of the 8 year gap between Republic and Get Ready....it could have been seen as the PROPER successor to Technique instead of Republic..... they did some great free shows around that time too - at Sankeys Soap and Castlefield arena as part of the first D:Percussion (then initially called Re:Percussion) weekend free festivals.....

Good times indeed - feel nostalgic already now.... only cos 1997 was also the year I met the wife!

:)

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