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Spotnick wrote: It's hosted on a real server, all by itself.

And no, I won't change to anything else than IIS, don't even try ;)

The reason why it's slow is because of the statistics calculation routine going on in the morning here (before, it was jamming the site completly, now it's just slow)

And also because the server doesn't have lot of memory for a web server running Windows 2003...

Eventually, when the band's help will be available, we might get a better machine than this celeron server, but this is, however, wonderful to have.

I take it that's basically down to the potential hideous workload as opposed to any strange beliefs about apache. I can tell this place uses a lot of MS-ie crp, and for a nice change, uses it well.

What time was that stats routine running before....this site seemed to die in the mid morning UK time for a while, yet there never seemed to be anyone around. I take it the server is remote, at an ISP or server farm? If it were at home, you could add a real junker 486 running some crappy floppy linux distro to do the stats? Perhaps the hosting firm can do that crap for you? Unless of course you mean internal things, like the forums ( how many times certain people have posted nasty threads bout BM, that sort of thing).

Come to think of it, if the machine has too little RAM, apache might not be a great thing on it anyway, linux likes ram, lots of it, not wasteful, just fookin greedy.

Surely we can all chuck a few quid together for a better server. When you says "band's help" you mean them right? not bleedin AOL-time-warner. A back hander from Hooky is cool, getting bought out by "da man" aint so hot :)

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Ruined in a day wrote: Actually it is seriously bad, because reading the forum becomes a pain in the eye when the actual text is narrowed to 50% of the screen, and a text line contains very little text... Not much fun anymore...

I don't know... I've read somewhere the ideal text width on a page is 40 to 60%, because if the text lines are as large as the screen they become annoying, the eye gets tired of reading sooner than if changing line more often. Also the text is not very little because it's true that small Arial is ugly as hell, but it's also true it can contain more words in the same space than Verdana. I think the text ratio is about the same as before... also I remember in the old forum the text was about 50% wide too, the difference was just we had the author+avatar column, the text column, and then a white blank column, while now we have the menu column, the author+avatar one and then the text one, though you get two extra columns on higher resolutions...

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Just back off me holidays and thought I'd hit the wrong site!

Love it, well done gents :nod: :thumb:

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Steve Campbell wrote:

Spotnick wrote: It's hosted on a real server, all by itself.

And no, I won't change to anything else than IIS, don't even try ;)

The reason why it's slow is because of the statistics calculation routine going on in the morning here (before, it was jamming the site completly, now it's just slow)

And also because the server doesn't have lot of memory for a web server running Windows 2003...

Eventually, when the band's help will be available, we might get a better machine than this celeron server, but this is, however, wonderful to have.

I take it that's basically down to the potential hideous workload as opposed to any strange beliefs about apache. I can tell this place uses a lot of MS-ie crp, and for a nice change, uses it well.

What time was that stats routine running before....this site seemed to die in the mid morning UK time for a while, yet there never seemed to be anyone around. I take it the server is remote, at an ISP or server farm? If it were at home, you could add a real junker 486 running some crappy floppy linux distro to do the stats? Perhaps the hosting firm can do that crap for you? Unless of course you mean internal things, like the forums ( how many times certain people have posted nasty threads bout BM, that sort of thing).

Come to think of it, if the machine has too little RAM, apache might not be a great thing on it anyway, linux likes ram, lots of it, not wasteful, just fookin greedy.

Surely we can all chuck a few quid together for a better server. When you says "band's help" you mean them right? not bleedin AOL-time-warner. A back hander from Hooky is cool, getting bought out by "da man" aint so hot :)

If that ease your mind, Apache is ALSO installed on the server ;) It's running the PLESK configuration platform.

But you see, I'm doing ASP.NET websites for living, so it's normal, and the reason why I started NOOL was to experiment... the upcoming v2.0 of the .NET FrameWork is full of promises, so it should be interesting...

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I like the direst links, it is a bit conspicuous but worthwile for the pictures. Good work!

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I've seen the new subscribe icon, but when I click it and I should be subscribed the "unsubscribe" icon does not appear as before, there's still "subscribe" on a page with no messages, so nothing tells me I'm subscribed now... I'm sure you'll fix it.

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Spotnick wrote:

Steve Campbell wrote:

Spotnick wrote: It's hosted on a real server, all by itself.

And no, I won't change to anything else than IIS, don't even try ;)

The reason why it's slow is because of the statistics calculation routine going on in the morning here (before, it was jamming the site completly, now it's just slow)

And also because the server doesn't have lot of memory for a web server running Windows 2003...

Eventually, when the band's help will be available, we might get a better machine than this celeron server, but this is, however, wonderful to have.

I take it that's basically down to the potential hideous workload as opposed to any strange beliefs about apache. I can tell this place uses a lot of MS-ie crp, and for a nice change, uses it well.

What time was that stats routine running before....this site seemed to die in the mid morning UK time for a while, yet there never seemed to be anyone around. I take it the server is remote, at an ISP or server farm? If it were at home, you could add a real junker 486 running some crappy floppy linux distro to do the stats? Perhaps the hosting firm can do that crap for you? Unless of course you mean internal things, like the forums ( how many times certain people have posted nasty threads bout BM, that sort of thing).

Come to think of it, if the machine has too little RAM, apache might not be a great thing on it anyway, linux likes ram, lots of it, not wasteful, just fookin greedy.

Surely we can all chuck a few quid together for a better server. When you says "band's help" you mean them right? not bleedin AOL-time-warner. A back hander from Hooky is cool, getting bought out by "da man" aint so hot :)

If that ease your mind, Apache is ALSO installed on the server ;) It's running the PLESK configuration platform.

But you see, I'm doing ASP.NET websites for living, so it's normal, and the reason why I started NOOL was to experiment... the upcoming v2.0 of the .NET FrameWork is full of promises, so it should be interesting...

Like I say my only problem is that I can feel the winlag here when I try and get a page :)

Seriously though.....how much cash do we need for something a bit smarter? couldn't we just send you some spare RAM for now? :) poor NOOL is a victom of it's own success as much as NO have been.

I'm up for donating and I'm not the richest round here ( my total income for the last 2 months has been £0). In fact it's been a while since I paid me dues here.

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I love it! Wish I could say the same for New Order's latest single.

:dead:

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Steve Campbell wrote:

Seriously though.....how much cash do we need for something a bit smarter? couldn't we just send you some spare RAM for now? :) poor NOOL is a victom of it's own success as much as NO have been.

I'm up for donating and I'm not the richest round here ( my total income for the last 2 months has been £0). In fact it's been a while since I paid me dues here.

Doesn't work that way... I'm renting the server which is somewhere in the USA...

I have a Value Server from APlus, which costs something like 80$/month for a Windows 2003 box (50$ for the basic unix box) click the link and you'll see the configurations they offer.

For the moment, it's sufficient, but eventually, if I can find people to host and have some feedback from the management (one day they'll stop touring!), we might even get something better.

Unless, of course, the activity goes down, which is kind of predictable though... it should get back to normal until the next album pretty soon...

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I love the random pictures of The Vikings! :thumb: It's becoming well balanced: official shots, live pics, record sleeves, and fans pics. EXCELLENT! :clap:

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