i have heard many of you slagging of jetstream and world in motion, but surely in comparision with blue monday 98 and the single release of sub-culture they are better tunes not classics but ok
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dave clark wrote: i have heard many of you slagging of jetstream and world in motion, but surely in comparision with blue monday 98 and the single release of sub-culture they are better tunes not classics but ok
Stop these depressing threads - We've had 'least favourite', 'most overrated' and 'which track do you wish they had never made' in the last few weeks!
Oh ! I think I've seen this one before !
It's seems quite difficult to find anything interesting to say after a while on this forum, but you have the right to love every N.O song you want (no one talk about worcking overtime and I love this song, I don't care if "others" find it odd)
We All Stand. Cannot stand. Bernard's voice is agony in motion. Hooky's bass is sexy sometimes but the song just lopes along and on and on and on. Three hundred miles to go.
We All Stand. Cannot stand. Bernard's voice is agony in motion. Hooky's bass is sexy sometimes but the song just lopes along and on and on and on. Three hundred miles to go.
Guilt is a useless emotion for me - the worst thing they've ever done by a country mile, surprising since LRD was involved - sounds like an outtake from Raise The Pressure.
Richard Ashton wrote: Dracula's Castle. What the fook is that about? Utter shiite. Sorry lads...
Everything No have ever released has been utter crap. Even the album tracks suck. Hooky is the worse bass player in the world. All the songs sound identical, Barney is the worse singer and guitarist in the world. The band before them (called Joy Division) were just as bad. Miserable songs with no sense of purpose or emotion.
So I could name about 100 worse ever NO songs. Does anyone know (or care) if they are still going?
By the way. What a lovely thread.
dave clark wrote: i have heard many of you slagging of jetstream and world in motion, but surely in comparision with blue monday 98 and the single release of sub-culture they are better tunes not classics but ok
wish everyone would stop slagging off Blue Monday - its a classic! and helped bring dance music to the UK. everyone is entitled to their opinion though i suppose...
i think i covered this before.
it's a toss up between SOTN and the epic long 1 hour and 83 min. version 
of elegia.:dead:
d13 wrote: i think i covered this before.
it's a toss up between SOTN and the epic long 1 hour and 83 min. version
I think even Barney got fed up with the extended version (judging by his woeful out of tune guitar work towards the end!).
Word In Motion has to be the worst they just went way too off track there. But I still love it.
i don't know if i can say it's a bad song but i've never really appreciated a song like TBTHOG! neither live or on its first issue on a maxi vinyl...
but i won't say it's the worst new order song!cos'i don't think that N.O ever recorded a shitty song!
RedKen wrote:
dave clark wrote: i have heard many of you slagging of jetstream and world in motion, but surely in comparision with blue monday 98 and the single release of sub-culture they are better tunes not classics but ok
wish everyone would stop slagging off Blue Monday - its a classic! and helped bring dance music to the UK. everyone is entitled to their opinion though i suppose...
Agreed, I love Blue Monday. 
d13 wrote: i think i covered this before.
it's a toss up between SOTN and the epic long 1 hour and 83 min. version
don't you mean 2h 13minutes?
Dean Cutillar wrote:
d13 wrote: i think i covered this before.
it's a toss up between SOTN and the epic long 1 hour and 83 min. version
don't you mean 2h 13minutes?
Or 2 hr 23 minutes even?
Snorri xxx
We All Stand. Cannot stand. Bernard's voice is agony in motion. Hooky's bass is sexy sometimes but the song just lopes along and on and on and on. Three hundred miles to go
We All Stand. Cannot stand. Bernard's voice is agony in motion. Hooky's bass is sexy sometimes but the song just lopes along and on and on and on. Three hundred miles to go
We All Stand is one of the few instances when the studio version failed to catch the essense of the live version. True, I thought it was their worst until I listened to a few live versions. Listen to the Peels session and compare that to PC&L. You'll see, you all will see.
any track that gets used for commericials sucks, like Slow Jam or 60 Miles.
I can't believe anyone would bag the singles version of subculture. i got that on the singles compilation and would've paid $20 just for that song.
There's NO worst song or anything like it perse. C'mon People, what's the point in such thread anyway, let's focuse on what matters : enjoy LIFE (with NewOrder all along !). Kind regards to U all.
I agree with RAVEANE DIDIER et. al., let's focus on the positive and just enjoy NO. Every NO track will be loved (and hated) by someone. I'm fairly new to the Forums, but has there been a poll on favorite NO album? I have to assume so.
Shellshocker wrote: I agree with RAVEANE DIDIER et. al., let's focus on the positive and just enjoy NO. Every NO track will be loved (and hated) by someone. I'm fairly new to the Forums, but has there been a poll on favorite NO album? I have to assume so.
I voted for Jetstream, I don't hate this song I just think it is my least favourite song, I still listen to Jetstream and I never skip past it, but for me it there isn't a NO song that I hate, I have my favourites and least favourite, and I totally agree with your comments about focusing on the positive and enjoying NO.
I Told You So.The only NO song i couldn't stand listening to throughout the end of it.Working Overtime too.Who could tell:NO sounding like bloody OASIS!!!
I haven't heard all of their songs, but I'm not a big fan of Love Vigilantes. My mum and I started downloading it, but upon listening we both looked at each other like: 
haha.
What's wrong with World in Motion? OR Blue Monday for that matter? Eh, each to their own!
No way is 60 MPH a bad song, its a great track from a brilliant album NO dont do crap songs.
Gnome-some Tonight wrote: I thought we had agreed... Liar, by a country mile...
SHEDi xxx
Why do so many people hate Liar? I think it's just a fun singalong song, Jetstream is far the worst
spud wrote:
Gnome-some Tonight wrote: I thought we had agreed... Liar, by a country mile...
SHEDi xxx
Why do so many people hate Liar? I think it's just a fun singalong song, Jetstream is far the worst
Here here, ill buy that for a dollar,(ill give you 2 dollars)
Only truly bad ones they've done IMHO are WIFM and Piss Stream.
Apart from them, I could listen to just about any other New Order track without urning it off. 
Have to agree on the We All Stand thing. The album version just didn't get it. Maybe they were too off their heads. The Peel Session, however, sounds golden, and it's my definitive version of the song.
There's an alarming number of mentions of State of the Nation. I think that's a fantastic track. Lots of great guitar work complemented nicely with those layered synths in the refrains.
My pick?
Never really liked Paradise off Brotherhood. Weirdo gets that album right back on track, though.
It's just personal taste isn't? A lot of 'old' N.O. fans will go for the 'classic' N.O. sound,but I think Krafty is classic N.O. & look how recent it is.Tho' if you think of all the 1st singles from albums(or 1st track to precede one),it's probably the worst one,so it shows you how good all the others have been.
So,altho' 'Ruined in a day' & Jetstream' are decent songs,they are poor N.O. songs,only IMO,& 'Jetstream' the worst N.O. single ever.My least favourite track? Toss up between 'Rock the shack' & Working Overtime' I think....lack of drugs to fuel the creative process maybe?...
none of them are bad i just dont listten to the one or two i dont particuly fancy(yeah thats a good answer
for some reason i listen to rock the shack i dont really like it but i still listen to it no actually it sort of like listening to a new order track skiping (theres some kind of scratch on the disk or something) and you just sit there and take it with glazed over eyes......hey no i quite like that song its not my fav...i remember some thing i do in secret.... but dont laugh...!! but i quite like the lyric in it ""i believe this world of mine is givin me adrenilin""" rock the shack rock the shack rock the shaaaaaack
im a FOUL!!!
FOR KRAFTY ,,,YOU SORT OF ENJOY IT OR PLAY IT WHEN YOUR IN LOVE does anyone else get that??!!!
krisna wrote: FOR KRAFTY ,,,YOU SORT OF ENJOY IT OR PLAY IT WHEN YOUR IN LOVE does anyone else get that??!!!
The video is like that, yeah. The song itself is just a nice, happy song, I think. Good for love or dancing or whatever.
Jetstream Rock the Shack John Robie's take on "Subculture" (I can't blame New Order for this one, though. The original version was superb; John Robie butchered it on the single remix.) Turn my way The Sunkist advert "Blue Monday" Murder
Manny Grillo wrote: What's with all the bile against Murder all of a sudden?
All of a sudden? Nay, I've always hated Murder. :D
leather_girl wrote: Jetstream Rock the Shack John Robie's take on "Subculture" (I can't blame New Order for this one, though. The original version was superb; John Robie butchered it on the single remix.) Turn my way The Sunkist advert "Blue Monday" Murder
not the answer i expected from you. I thought you would say that this a hateful thread.
I know I've already said about personal taste,but I'm very surprised to see someone slag off anything that is 'classic' N.O. like 'Way of Life'! It's pure,out & out,unmistakeable N.O.,whereas tracks like 'Rock the Shack' & 'Working Overtime' sound like N.O.trying to be someone else,something of which they transcend.At least 'Republic' was someone else trying to MAKE them sound like someone else( thanks Stephen Hague.A PSB lover forever).& I'd love to know how he got a writing credit for 'Regret',considering he spent the rest of his production duties keeping Hooky OFF everything else!
Cant think of any crap NO records dissappointed ones yes like Working over time but i think there are loads of great songs off Get Ready. Shellshock is a great song too
is there even "one" i dunno know? i mean, the effort, creative processes, techniques, compositions itself IS already a hard work, and it would be such shame if nu order ever does write bad track(s). after all, it's all in the ear of the listener. so i really can't say...
p/s: am not trying to be philosophical. i just can't think or imagine a song that is considered "WORST" nu order track ever!:D
BillONdollar wrote: is there even "one" i dunno know? i mean, the effort, creative processes, techniques, compositions itself IS already a hard work, and it would be such shame if nu order ever does write bad track(s). after all, it's all in the ear of the listener. so i really can't say...
p/s: am not trying to be philosophical. i just can't think or imagine a song that is considered "WORST" nu order track ever!:D
I imagine each member of New Order has something in mind they consider the worst New Order track. Barney reputedly hates Movement, so pick anything of there for his choice, I guess.
I think my least favorite NO song is "Fine Time".
God I hate that song. It's just sooo cheesy.
Damn I love Murder. That's one of my favorite instrumentals.
It's sooo freaking dark. But not like JD dark.
am i the only person who doesnt like True Faith, or is that blasphemy
not the worst track mind, Liar takes that award
And, i like shellshock
And SOTN
AND even the subculture 12"
isaac wrote: Murder.Never ever liked this one.
'Murder' is a f**king CLASSIC - especially when you feel like killing the other half - listen to it, but don't do it - tension reliever...
WIFM has to be the one...
been looking for the name of this new order song for a long time now! it is about some 1 who is in the army and they go and tell the g/f or wife he was killed in action! only while she grieves for him he walks in the door!! if any one could tell me the name of the song i would be more than greatfull! thanks xx
lesminx wrote: been looking for the name of this new order song for a long time now! it is about some 1 who is in the army and they go and tell the g/f or wife he was killed in action! only while she grieves for him he walks in the door!! if any one could tell me the name of the song i would be more than greatfull! thanks xx
Love Vigilantes.
not really worst, but my least favorable:
Every Second Counts!!!
Very un-neworderlike.
Indeed!
richyuppie wrote: not really worst, but my least favorable:
Every Second Counts!!!
Very un-neworderlike.
Indeed!
It was slightly amusing the first time of hearing this for Barney's laughter, but I must admit I don't like this track either
Anything where Bernard raps, plus cheesy later stuff like Jetstream/Dracula's Castle. But for sheer irritation plus making a sow's ear out of a silk purse, it has to be the 12" version of Subculture, woo-oo-oo...here we have a supposedly top producer completely missing the point of the song and turning a great, quirky track into a load of bland disco shite. Plus, first track to feature those fantastic female backing vocals that we have all come to know and love over the years. Still, nobody's perfect, eh?
Twist, singer of the Blessing Way wrote:
We All Stand. Cannot stand. Bernard's voice is agony in motion. Hooky's bass is sexy sometimes but the song just lopes along and on and on and on. Three hundred miles to go
We All Stand. Cannot stand. Bernard's voice is agony in motion. Hooky's bass is sexy sometimes but the song just lopes along and on and on and on. Three hundred miles to go
We All Stand is one of the few instances when the studio version failed to catch the essense of the live version. True, I thought it was their worst until I listened to a few live versions. Listen to the Peels session and compare that to PC&L. You'll see, you all will see.
yeahh, i have a tape with a we all stand live version and it sounds great!!
FACT.50 wrote: I think my least favorite NO song is "Fine Time".
God I hate that song. It's just sooo cheesy.
well, i'd wish that song in the set list again!!
NO Regret wrote:
d13 wrote: i think i covered this before.
it's a toss up between SOTN and the epic long 1 hour and 83 min. version
I think even Barney got fed up with the extended version (judging by his woeful out of tune guitar work towards the end!).
Somehow I've managed to not comment on this thread so far, so here goes!
Every album has its duff choons I think, but the number of duffers has increased markedly since 85.
Movement - I just don't get Dreams Never End, it's like they sort of ran out of ideas halfway through, and it just repeats itself then stops (we rehearsed it yesterday, so the construction is very fresh!). The Him always sounds like they couldn't quite work out where the song was going to come from as well.
PC&L - I like We All Stand as a live song, and the Peel session sounds more like I thought it would end up, but the album version just doesn't do it justice for me. Same with Ultraviolence, a storming live number that they managed to totally subdue on record.
Low Life - Elegia - boring as fook, even the shorter version. Can't stand it!
Brotherhood - Paradise is a piss-weak lazy half-song. Weirdo is marginally better but would never make my Top 40 NO songs. Way Of Life is a joke, surely, a parody of themselves? All Day Long should have been a pleasant instrumental but the vocal ruins it. As for Every Little Counts, this is the most offensively pathetic attempt at making music they have ever done. Utter pish.
Technique - Fine Time isn't all that fine, and doesn't belong on the album for me. All The Way is a blatant ripoff, I'm sure they enjoyed the joke but can't see the point of it really.
Republic - Chemical, Liar and Spooky all need forgetting about. Times Change is just a total cringe from start to finish.
Get Ready - Turd My Way should have been aborted one second in, and Run Wild nearly caused me to throw all my old records away.
WFTSC - I don't get Dracula's Castle, and the title is cringeworthy.
Of the singles - the 12" Subculture is wank, and all versions of Shite of the Nation should be banned.
The rest can stay
Tim wrote: Somehow I've managed to not comment on this thread so far, so here goes!
Every album has its duff choons I think, but the number of duffers has increased markedly since 85.
Movement - I just don't get Dreams Never End, it's like they sort of ran out of ideas halfway through, and it just repeats itself then stops (we rehearsed it yesterday, so the construction is very fresh!). The Him always sounds like they couldn't quite work out where the song was going to come from as well.
PC&L - I like We All Stand as a live song, and the Peel session sounds more like I thought it would end up, but the album version just doesn't do it justice for me. Same with Ultraviolence, a storming live number that they managed to totally subdue on record.
Low Life - Elegia - boring as fook, even the shorter version. Can't stand it!
Brotherhood - Paradise is a piss-weak lazy half-song. Weirdo is marginally better but would never make my Top 40 NO songs. Way Of Life is a joke, surely, a parody of themselves? All Day Long should have been a pleasant instrumental but the vocal ruins it. As for Every Little Counts, this is the most offensively pathetic attempt at making music they have ever done. Utter pish.
Technique - Fine Time isn't all that fine, and doesn't belong on the album for me. All The Way is a blatant ripoff, I'm sure they enjoyed the joke but can't see the point of it really.
Republic - Chemical, Liar and Spooky all need forgetting about. Times Change is just a total cringe from start to finish.
Get Ready - Turd My Way should have been aborted one second in, and Run Wild nearly caused me to throw all my old records away.
WFTSC - I don't get Dracula's Castle, and the title is cringeworthy.
Of the singles - the 12" Subculture is wank, and all versions of Shite of the Nation should be banned.
The rest can stay
So thats about 17 New Order songs that you dont like Tim?
Sounds quite alot to me but hey, each to their own.
Can't say I go much on Confusion either, and it took me 20 years to get Your Silent Face and Temptation!
Ouch! You just named like three of my favorites.. "Dreams Never End" is my theme song (I spin it a lot when ever I'm DJing), oh and technically it wasn't on "Movement". It was released as a single if i recall correctly, and only tacked onto the CD release as a bonus.
I can't imagine anyone disliking Elegia. It's such a powerful song. Besides it was written as an (wait for it....) Elegy to Ian. To me it marks the point where the band almost etirely dropped the Joy Division influences heard on the first three albums.
Paradise is another one I enjoy. Not my fave, but great nonetheless!
Oh and to whomever said Murder!?? They can go slag off (lol).
=)
oldmonkey wrote: Somehow I've managed to not comment on this thread so far, so here goes!
Every album has its duff choons I think, but the number of duffers has increased markedly since 85.
Movement - I just don't get Dreams Never End, it's like they sort of ran out of ideas halfway through, and it just repeats itself then stops (we rehearsed it yesterday, so the construction is very fresh!). The Him always sounds like they couldn't quite work out where the song was going to come from as well.
PC&L - I like We All Stand as a live song, and the Peel session sounds more like I thought it would end up, but the album version just doesn't do it justice for me. Same with Ultraviolence, a storming live number that they managed to totally subdue on record.
Low Life - Elegia - boring as fook, even the shorter version. Can't stand it!
Brotherhood - Paradise is a piss-weak lazy half-song. Weirdo is marginally better but would never make my Top 40 NO songs. Way Of Life is a joke, surely, a parody of themselves? All Day Long should have been a pleasant instrumental but the vocal ruins it. As for Every Little Counts, this is the most offensively pathetic attempt at making music they have ever done. Utter pish.
Technique - Fine Time isn't all that fine, and doesn't belong on the album for me. All The Way is a blatant ripoff, I'm sure they enjoyed the joke but can't see the point of it really.
Republic - Chemical, Liar and Spooky all need forgetting about. Times Change is just a total cringe from start to finish.
Get Ready - Turd My Way should have been aborted one second in, and Run Wild nearly caused me to throw all my old records away.
WFTSC - I don't get Dracula's Castle, and the title is cringeworthy.
Of the singles - the 12" Subculture is wank, and all versions of Shite of the Nation should be banned.
The rest can stay
FACT.50 wrote: Ouch! You just named like three of my favorites.. "Dreams Never End" is my theme song (I spin it a lot when ever I'm DJing), oh and technically it wasn't on "Movement". It was released as a single if i recall correctly, and only tacked onto the CD release as a bonus.
I can't imagine anyone disliking Elegia. It's such a powerful song. Besides it was written as an (wait for it....) Elegy to Ian. To me it marks the point where the band almost etirely dropped the Joy Division influences heard on the first three albums.
Paradise is another one I enjoy. Not my fave, but great nonetheless!
Oh and to whomever said Murder!?? They can go slag off (lol).
=)
Erm......Dreams Never End was the first song on Movement, was always the first song on Movement, and has never been released as a single or tacked on the CD as a bonus!
Elegia is pretentious wank, it's no elegy to Ian.
oldmonkey wrote:
FACT.50 wrote: Ouch! You just named like three of my favorites.. "Dreams Never End" is my theme song (I spin it a lot when ever I'm DJing), oh and technically it wasn't on "Movement". It was released as a single if i recall correctly, and only tacked onto the CD release as a bonus.
I can't imagine anyone disliking Elegia. It's such a powerful song. Besides it was written as an (wait for it....) Elegy to Ian. To me it marks the point where the band almost etirely dropped the Joy Division influences heard on the first three albums.
Paradise is another one I enjoy. Not my fave, but great nonetheless!
Oh and to whomever said Murder!?? They can go slag off (lol).
=)
Erm......Dreams Never End was the first song on Movement, was always the first song on Movement, and has never been released as a single or tacked on the CD as a bonus!
Elegia is pretentious wank, it's no elegy to Ian.
I beg to differ. I think Elegia is a gorgeous piece of music and NO's best instrumental by far.
FACT.50 wrote: Damn I love Murder. That's one of my favorite instrumentals.
It's sooo freaking dark. But not like JD dark.
Fuck I hate this "Dark" JD SHITE! Gallows Fucking Humour brilliant funny & uplifting ("Dark" )!
"Murder" (Classic NO song) contains the lyric "Wanker I fucking hate you" ergo:- not an instrumental.
Worst NO, track beyond a shadow of a doubt:- "World In Motion" (even if your unlucky enough to have been born south of the border, John Barnes [the Jamaican Englishman] "Raps" on it fer fuck's sake)!
MIMX wrote:
FACT.50 wrote: Damn I love Murder. That's one of my favorite instrumentals.
It's sooo freaking dark. But not like JD dark.
Fuck I hate this "Dark" JD SHITE! Gallows Fucking Humour brilliant funny & uplifting ("Dark"
"Murder" (Classic NO song) contains the lyric "Wanker I fucking hate you" ergo:- not an instrumental.
Worst NO, track beyond a shadow of a doubt:- "World In Motion" (even if your unlucky enough to have been born south of the border, John Barnes [the Jamaican Englishman] "Raps" on it fer fuck's sake)!
World In Motion should have a protection act served against it. I really cant understand why people slate it so much. Its the first proper respectable football song ever made. The fact that the FA approached New Order (of all bands) to produce the offical England Italia 1990 world cup song, speaks volume to me. A very brave move when they could have played safe and had a more commercial and widely known act.
The fact that New Order agreed also amazes me, as I dont think they are massive football fans.
The fact it was such a memorable world cup and that England were a whisker away (cos the Argies were there for the taking in the final) from winning the greatest football trophy makes it even more significant.
I also think its a cracking tune, got great vocals from Barney, will always hold fond memories for me, is their only number one single, has arriverderchi in the lyrics and had Keith Allen on board, will mean its always gonna be special to me.
Does anyone else support this?
I used to think that "Working Overtime" was pretty bad, but since I'm not expecting any more new (as in recorded after 2005) NO material, I've come to appreciate it more. Alcohol helps! 
In my opinion though it's still probably their worst track.
I love "World in Motion" though! So maybe the lyrics are ridiculous, but the music (in my opinion) is brilliant. I remember hearing it for the first time and being mesmerised by the dissonant synths (much like the first time I heard "The Perfect Kiss," which is how I fell in love with NO).
Speaking of alcohol, enough of it makes the WiM video the FUNNIEST THING EVER.
hmmm state of the nation, draculas castle , we all stand and the yawnfest of elegia, but hey 4 stinkers in 30 years aint so bad just look at all the dogs recorded by the rolling stones since 1975!!
NO Regret wrote: World In Motion...blah,blah,blah...The fact that New Order agreed also amazes me...blah,blah,blah...will mean its always gonna be special to me. Does anyone else support this?
NO! They do not.
MIMX wrote:
NO Regret wrote: World In Motion...blah,blah,blah...The fact that New Order agreed also amazes me...blah,blah,blah...will mean its always gonna be special to me. Does anyone else support this?
NO!
Well being from Scotland Id expect no less from you MINX. World Cup's and Scotland are like oil and water. They just dont mix well.:D
NO Regret wrote: Well being from Scotland Id expect no less from you MINX. World Cup's and Scotland are like oil and water. They just dont mix well.:D
Scotland have played at eight World Cup Finals — including 5 consecutive tournaments from 1974 to 1990. They have missed out on progressing to the second round three times on goal difference: in 1974, when Brazil edged them out; in 1978, when the Netherlands progressed; and in 1982, when the USSR went through. Despite playing at eight finals tournaments they have actually qualified on nine occasions but the SFA declined to participate in 1950. Not too bad at all for a country with a population of circa 5 million, hardly, oil and water, more like whisky (a quality single malt) and water!
England on the other hand with their population of nearly 60 million have only managed to qualify 12 times, a mere 3 times more than the Scots despite their huge population advantage!More a mix of cheap gin and water (gin being of course the Dutch national drink, before the English nicked it from them).
And in Euro 2008, while Scotland
were beating the world cup holders France: all England could manage against the lowly Moldavia was a miserable draw!
So nar-nar-nee-na- nar! :)
MIMX wrote:
NO Regret wrote: Well being from Scotland Id expect no less from you MINX. World Cup's and Scotland are like oil and water. They just dont mix well.:D
Scotland have played at eight World Cup Finals — including 5 consecutive tournaments from 1974 to 1990. They have missed out on progressing to the second round three times on goal difference: in 1974, when Brazil edged them out; in 1978, when the Netherlands progressed; and in 1982, when the USSR went through. Despite playing at eight finals tournaments they have actually qualified on nine occasions but the SFA declined to participate in 1950. Not too bad at all for a country with a population of circa 5 million, hardly, oil and water, more like whisky (a quality single malt) and water!
England on the other hand with their population of nearly 60 million have only managed to qualify 12 times, a mere 3 times more than the Scots despite their huge population advantage!More a mix of cheap gin and water (gin being of course the Dutch national drink, before the English nicked it from them).
And in Euro 2008, while Scotland
Blimey, someones been trapsing thru the history books of Scottish Football. They stopped at volumn one!! ha ha
Well, I like your sense of humour. But you cant hide from the fact that Scotland have never got past the group stages of the world cup. Peru, Costa Rica, Morocco, Iran, New Zealand and Urugary are just some of the BIG teams you have failed to beat.
I agree that England have over the years underachieved in the tournament but at least we did win it once!:D
State of the Nation...terrible arrangements and crappy lyrics. I always skip that track.
Ruined in a Day indeed with that stupid Bogle version and Rhythm crap.
World with that Brothers Rhythm crap again.
I cant remember what I put before (as this is a repeated topic) but I would have to say Way of Life is the most lifeless piece of drab, repetitive tosh Ive heard NO come up with.
I dont like the bass line (which for me doesnt go with the song at all). The acoustic guitar is too low down in the mix. The lyrics are bland and melody is luckluster. I cant find anything in it thats appealing.
The maddening thing about New Order is their occasional lack of quality control. Half of the last two albums should never have made it past the first draft - they could have had one unbeatable record instead of two decent ones.
worst tracks that come to mind are shellshock,finetime and other all new york breakdancing type shite 
I just heard "Haystack" recently. The first time I heard it, I said to myself, "WTF is this song?" Anyway, I gave myself the benefit of the doubt, for I might like it later. After hearing it a couple of times again, I have to say, it's really a BAD track!
Indeed!
They've done thier fair share of duffers and tracks that just aren't to my personal taste, but there's only ONE New Order track i can't actually listen to, and that is Face Up. I've probably managed to listen to it all the way through twice in 20 odd years and i still have nightmares.
From the "bollocks trapped in a vice" karoke vocals to the twee synths, to the juddering bass/keyboard thingy, after a minute of it playing, i'd smash my way through a wall to get to the off button. The amazing thing is they left this on low life, while ditching a track that they deemed sub-standard. I hope to god i never hear that one, though i believe it may have been lets go, which while not a classic at least doesn't induce madness.
The original of Let's Go is I think a classic,but for me the worst track by a country mile is I Told You So,with the version of Let's Go which appeared on Retro being but a pale shadow,I also remember the shock of hearing Fine Time the first time,although the TOTP appearence was pretty funny.
I love State Of The Nation, can't see why many hate it, it's good fun I think.
My least favourite NO tracks are Rock The Shack & Working Overtime
I'm kind of a new NO fan, and all I have is the 2-disc 'singles' compilation (as well as 2 extra tracks 'someone like you' and 'age of consent'), and out of all those, my least favourites were 'subculture' and 'shellshock' - just didn't do it for me
I'm standing with what I always said since when it came out in 1995:
Armand van Helden's Mix of BLT on (The Rest Of) New Order.
Utter Shite ...
Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: ode to joy sucks donkey balls
Whose Joy? and has she sucked your Donkey Balls Jeff ?
Rock the Shack Working Overtime and worst of all Confusion, in all its many and varied guises!
Ectasy - dull, boring, repetitive, doesn't go anywhere, doesn't do anything, just plod plod fade.
BLT Armand Van Helden Mix - should never been made. Remixes like this demonstrate how good NO are.. I'd be ashamed if I submitted a mix like this for anyone.
Oh, and instrumental : MTO is fairly dull.
Boing Boing wrote: Blue Monday - utter bollocks even Barney hates it
Bizzare but as people have already commented each to their own....
Jetstream isn't the best but even I prefer that to most songs that bands put out today.
60 Miles an hour I love and so do I D. Castle maybe that makes me a real fan 
Okay, let's leave World in Motion Alone.
History;s repeating itself as Peter Saville's just re-designed the official England football shirt!!
And while we're at it, Tony Wilson's recently unveiled headstone is a purposeful replica of Factory's early big bos cassette boxes.
Worst New Order song, without doubt, has to be Turn the Heater On.
Surprised Jetsream always gets such a slagging-off, it's no True Faith but it weewees all over most of Republic's second half. I would also very much like to have sex with Ms Matronic.
Shame of the Nation is even worse than the other side.
IF we can count remixes then the Slime And Robbie mixes of Ruined win by a few fucking country miles.....
...followed by that Armoured Van & Helmet "defecation mix" of BLT....
But there are still nevertheless a lot of really REALLY duff NO songs like Jizzstream, Dracula's Craphole, Chemically Imbalanced, Pants On Fire, We Got Rodgered BY UB40, Every Little Cunts, Crock Of Crap, MTO, etc etc..... to warrant a serious play-off in the worst-ever stakes.....
