Come on Holland!
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Martijn de Blaauw wrote: No one is having any interest in the championship in France. I even spoke to a frenchman who said that the best final for this tournament would be Holland-England:D
See my previous comments about the French, going back years on this forum. I work for a French bank, the majority of them aren't in the slightest bit interested in football.
You only have to look at their team to see exactly who takes an interest in the game in France. A white middle-class sport it ain't.
Jiphy wrote:
LeggyD wrote: Yep, COME ON HOLLAND! Give the second string a run out tonight and let the Romanians score a last minute winner to knock out the French and Italians
Tricky isn't it?
If they lose, they get rid of Italy and France. If they win, they confirm that they are in very good shape and that they are the best scoring machine of the tournament but will allow the winner of the France vs Italy continue the competition.
Which is the best option?
Knocking France & Italy out with a half arsed effort vs Romania is the best option.
If Romania beat Holland (and its possible with a weakened Dutch team) and France v Italy end in a draw then the two World Cup finalists will have to face a penalty shoot out to decide who finishes third. Strange but true!
NO Regret wrote: If Romania beat Holland (and its possible with a weakened Dutch team)
It's possible against a full Dutch team too - the Romanians beat them and drew with them in qualifying.
The Dutch are on fire though, aren't they?
Think Van Basten has said he's gonna rest De Jong and Engelaar though cos they've already got one booking each.
EDIT: No chance of pens now
yea come on holland knock italy and france out ,, then i can wear me england shirt on holiday there
southsea
18 5 08.
pompey will tear us apart
Shellshocker wrote:
Jiphy wrote:
LeggyD wrote: Yep, COME ON HOLLAND! Give the second string a run out tonight and let the Romanians score a last minute winner to knock out the French and Italians
Tricky isn't it?
If they lose, they get rid of Italy and France. If they win, they confirm that they are in very good shape and that they are the best scoring machine of the tournament but will allow the winner of the France vs Italy continue the competition.
Which is the best option?
Knocking France & Italy out with a half arsed effort vs Romania is the best option.
Exactly, what's tricky about it 
NO Regret wrote: If Romania beat Holland (and its possible with a weakened Dutch team) and France v Italy end in a draw then the two World Cup finalists will have to face a penalty shoot out to decide who finishes third. Strange but true!
It all just gets better :) Didn't realise that.
Hoping for a cracking France Italy game with them slogging away at each other for the win and then seeing them both drop to their knees when they hear about Romania's 93rd minute winner
The fact that they'd then might have to take pointless spot kicks is qualidee 
Waterloo, Waterloo, morne plaine.
25 minutes, a penalty, a red card.
France: 10 players. Italy: 11 players... maybe 12.
piss-poor game that Italy-France one. To bad Ribery had to leave the pitch, he's the one that can make a difference.
Holland played allright, not the sharpest game, but they did what was expected. And three wins in a row, not many countries can say that
Now let's see who's our next opponent, russia or sweden...bring them on on saturday, good time for a piss-up
Italy-Spain, that should be interesting..
Martijn de Blaauw wrote: piss-poor game that Italy-France one. To bad Ribery had to leave the pitch, he's the one that can make a difference.
Holland played allright, not the sharpest game, but they did what was expected. And three wins in a row, not many countries can say that
Now let's see who's our next opponent, russia or sweden...bring them on on saturday, good time for a piss-up
Italy-Spain, that should be interesting..
Italy are improving and even with suspensions I fancy them to beat tournament calamities Spain on pens.
isaac wrote: Anyone else think it could be an Italy v Holland final?
knowing the neutrals luck it will be germany v italy.
but hope its turkey/croatia v holland/spain combo.
NO Regret wrote:
isaac wrote: Anyone else think it could be an Italy v Holland final?
knowing the neutrals luck it will be germany v italy.
We predicted all the games in advance at work.
I ended up with an Italy-Germany final.
Even with all that's gone on in the past two weeks you can still see them both grinding it out all the way to the final. 
Although Holland plays very, very well @ the moment i'm afraid that the two teams who might make it to the final are going to be Italy and Germany.
Slow starters, piss-poor games and growing into the tournament..
But, never underestimate Portugal, Croatia, Spain and Holland. They are my favourites to make it to the semi and the final but unfortunately it's always going different
let's hope for the best
El Jarvo wrote: See my previous comments about the French, going back years on this forum. I work for a French bank, the majority of them aren't in the slightest bit interested in football.
You only have to look at their team to see exactly who takes an interest in the game in France. A white middle-class sport it ain't.
Football and immigration?
- The newcomers usually support their teams. When Turkey qualified against Czech Republic, streets were full of Turkish people celebrating.
- Football is a means to "take money" (as Cantona says) and fully integrate when born French in France. To name a few, Platini (Italians parents), Cantona (Italian father, Catalan mother), Zidane (Algerian parents), Kopa (Polish parents)...
- When people feel they are fully integrated, they lose interest in football most of the time...
Our running gag, when we watch a football match with my father, is to ask where people like Sagnol, Coupet can come from as their names sound weird and that the colour of their skin seems... different from the one of the others... Second degree, of course.
Football is still the favourite sport in France. But in my town, people are divided in three categories. 49% like football. 41% like rugby. 10% like handball as the French team is merely made of our local team. If handball was not so popular here, the town would be a rugby town like most of the Southwestern part of France.
Edit: Out of the people who like sport, of course. Many French do not have any interest in it at all.
Jiphy wrote:
El Jarvo wrote: See my previous comments about the French, going back years on this forum. I work for a French bank, the majority of them aren't in the slightest bit interested in football.
You only have to look at their team to see exactly who takes an interest in the game in France. A white middle-class sport it ain't.
Football and immigration?
- The newcomers usually support their teams. When Turkey qualified against Czech Republic, streets were full of Turkish people celebrating.
- Football is a means to "take money" (as Cantona says) and fully integrate when born French in France. To name a few, Platini (Italians parents), Cantona (Italian father, Catalan mother), Zidane (Algerian parents), Kopa (Polish parents)...
- When people feel they are fully integrated, they lose interest in football most of the time...
Our running gag, when we watch a football match with my father, is to ask where people like Sagnol, Coupet can come from as their names sound weird and that the colour of their skin seems... different from the one of the others... Second degree, of course.
Football is still the favourite sport in France. But in my town, people are divided in three categories. 49% like football. 41% like rugby. 10% like handball as the French team is merely made of our local team. If handball was not so popular here, the town would be a rugby town like most of the Southwestern part of France.
Edit: Out of the people who like sport, of course. Many French do not have any interest in it at all.
I noticed on my vistit that rugby is quite big in Toulon and Aix-en-Provence, well people had more to say about the rugby than about the footy:D
It seems like I heard on the telly, just prior to the France World Cup, that rugby was the most popular sport in France.
Germany - Portugal, quite a good game, quality outcome
Ronaldo is a brilliant player but such a fucking snob, piss off to madrid mate, please!
And as expected the Germans are through, my guess is that we will be seeing them in the final:(
Martijn de Blaauw wrote: Germany - Portugal, quite a good game, quality outcome
Ronaldo is a brilliant player but such a fucking snob, piss off to madrid mate, please!
And as expected the Germans are through, my guess is that we will be seeing them in the final:(
A Final Germany vs. Holland would be nice. But I don't believe it. I think, all teams, which played their third game without their best players - Portugal, Holland, Spain - will finish this round.
confus[gold]ion[/gold] wrote:
Martijn de Blaauw wrote: Germany - Portugal, quite a good game, quality outcome
Ronaldo is a brilliant player but such a fucking snob, piss off to madrid mate, please!
And as expected the Germans are through, my guess is that we will be seeing them in the final:(
A Final Germany vs. Holland would be nice. But I don't believe it. I think, all teams, which played their third game without their best players - Portugal, Holland, Spain - will finish this round.
Hmmm, this means Russia, Turkey, Italy and Germany are making a change for the final (let's not forget Serbia by the way)
We know more after the weekend:)
Anyway, Holland playing against Russia on saturdayevening, timing couldn't be better
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Old Lead Foot wrote: they were incredible against france tonight, spectacular goals
Old Lead Foot wrote:
Old Lead Foot wrote: they were incredible against france tonight, spectacular goals
Not much of chance i would say
Martijn de Blaauw wrote:
Old Lead Foot wrote:
Old Lead Foot wrote: they were incredible against france tonight, spectacular goals
Not much of chance i would say
If it happens now, then I've been in some sort of alcohol fuelled coma for the last two days.
Best betting opportunity missed appears to be that all the group winners would fall in the quarter-finals, at 100-1. I'm cheering on Spain, cos i didnt lay the bet.
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Martijn de Blaauw wrote:
Old Lead Foot wrote:
Old Lead Foot wrote: they were incredible against france tonight, spectacular goals
Not much of chance i would say
If it happens now, then I've been in some sort of alcohol fuelled coma for the last two days.
Best betting opportunity missed appears to be that all the group winners would fall in the quarter-finals, at 100-1. I'm cheering on Spain, cos i didnt lay the bet.
We can close this thread again.
