Clough
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Bonzette wrote: Anyone else watching this on ITV? It's an absolute classic.
No its not. Its a typical ITV documentary which focuses on sensaationalism, was poorly produced and had no structure. Its main focus was promoting the movie, and its a total disgrace that more time was focused on six weeks at Leeds United than the two European Cup winning seasons combined. Also, the rift with Peter Taylor was covered in five seconds, if that. Considering the effect this had on the man, its a shocking omission which can only be excused by the producers own ignorance.
It was interesting, but hardly any new light was shed on the man himself. Watching and listening to Brian Clough is always going to be interesting, even though ITV did try to make me switch off numerous times.
A wasted opportunity. 
The Teacher wrote:
Bonzette wrote: Anyone else watching this on ITV? It's an absolute classic.
No its not. Its a typical ITV documentary which focuses on sensaationalism, was poorly produced and had no structure. Its main focus was promoting the movie, and its a total disgrace that more time was focused on six weeks at Leeds United than the two European Cup winning seasons combined. Also, the rift with Peter Taylor was covered in five seconds, if that. Considering the effect this had on the man, its a shocking omission which can only be excused by the producers own ignorance.
It was interesting, but hardly any new light was shed on the man himself. Watching and listening to Brian Clough is always going to be interesting, even though ITV did try to make me switch off numerous times.
A wasted opportunity.
It was my understanding that the film (and book on which the film is based) were heavily critisised in this documentary, by his wife and those involved in Clough's time at Leeds? Don't see how that promoted the film at all - more a platform to set the record straight? I'm sure there will be a few people out there who won't be watching the film as a result of watching the documentary, myself included.
Perhaps more focus could have been made on his European success, and of course the rift with Peter Taylor. I'm assuming with his family heavily involved in the programme, that they played some part in the direction of the documentary. After all, it's reported that the death of Peter, without reconciliation, contributed further to his heavy drinking and decline in the latter part of his career, perhaps a subject too close to home? Who knows? I imagine the focus on Leeds is because of the film and because it was an opportunity for the other side of the story to be told. That's how I accepted it.
I thought it was really interesting, not least because it reminded me of growing up and my own football memories, especially of Brian, and I, for one, felt an enormous sense of warmth watching him in the documentary and remembering him and his great achievement and character.
Bonzette wrote:
The Teacher wrote:
Bonzette wrote: Anyone else watching this on ITV? It's an absolute classic.
No its not. Its a typical ITV documentary which focuses on sensaationalism, was poorly produced and had no structure. Its main focus was promoting the movie, and its a total disgrace that more time was focused on six weeks at Leeds United than the two European Cup winning seasons combined. Also, the rift with Peter Taylor was covered in five seconds, if that. Considering the effect this had on the man, its a shocking omission which can only be excused by the producers own ignorance.
It was interesting, but hardly any new light was shed on the man himself. Watching and listening to Brian Clough is always going to be interesting, even though ITV did try to make me switch off numerous times.
A wasted opportunity.
It was my understanding that the film (and book on which the film is based) were heavily critisised in this documentary, by his wife and those involved in Clough's time at Leeds? Don't see how that promoted the film at all - more a platform to set the record straight? I'm sure there will be a few people out there who won't be watching the film as a result of watching the documentary, myself included.
Perhaps more focus could have been made on his European success, and of course the rift with Peter Taylor. I'm assuming with his family heavily involved in the programme, that they played some part in the direction of the documentary. After all, it's reported that the death of Peter, without reconciliation, contributed further to his heavy drinking and decline in the latter part of his career, perhaps a subject too close to home? Who knows? I imagine the focus on Leeds is because of the film and because it was an opportunity for the other side of the story to be told. That's how I accepted it.
I thought it was really interesting, not least because it reminded me of growing up and my own football memories, especially of Brian, and I, for one, felt an enormous sense of warmth watching him in the documentary and remembering him and his great achievement and character.
Apart from all the time given to the writer, and director about how its different from the book and its "more affectionate." As well as all the footage from from the film, and all the discussion about it. I suppose no, it didnt promote the film at all. 
"Now then young man, that gay disco music you've been listening to ,chuck it in the bin, it's rubbish"
I enjoyed it greatly, didn't get the impression it was just a trailer for the film at all.
Shame the only aspect of his tenure at Brighton and Hove Albion they focussed on was getting trounced 2-8 by Bristol Rovers...
He is and always will be a fuckin legend.......
....RE the film I believe the families of the deceased Leeds players are phoning the lawyers......
He was and remains a fascinating character within the confines of football,and probably,almost definitely beyond that,to my mind,love him or hate him..
Having been forced to retire as a player,at the age of of 27,primetime,for a footballer,I'm struggling to think of a player with a better goals per game ratio than Cloughie for Boro and Scumberland anywhere,ever....including Pele in the Brazilian league....his outstanding,almost magical(all things considered) managerial career often overshadows this..I will watch the film,natch.
Havnae seen the film yet, but really enjoyed the documentary on ITV, shame they couldnae have paid for some of his clips from the BBC, the stuff that Football Focus had was funny as fuck.
A pure dead brilliant legend.
In the film it says Luton beat Leeds 1-0 in Clough's final game.
We didn't. It was 1-1.
Surprised they got that so wrong.
Excellent film though. Sheen is the Clough I remember.
There was a vastly superior Clough documentary on More 4 on Saturday night. Should be up on 4 on Demand.
I'll watch the film at some point over the Easter Holidays.
