Saddam caught

Here is Saddam reviewing his troops: "What would you rather be doing than marching up and down the square?!"

Stop it. It's getting silly.

Originally posted by death of art Stop it. It's getting silly.

Right, stop that! That's my line, young man...now, this was a nice thread about Saddam getting caught. It has since become silly, and I think we need to get back on board with the topic. On my cue, cut to...WAIT FOR IT!...cut to Camera Two!

its like this america theres this thing called free speech go and ask y0ur man michael moore about it i think bush is scum and should be tried for war crimes along with saddam hussein.. f**k them both.... but especially bush... bush is more dangerous to the world as a whole... saddam had no WMD or chemical capacity - it was all hype... bush has more chilling effects on our world as a whole than saddam if saddam walked out of the kyoto treaty i dont think anyone would give a f**k considering the state of the factories there must be environmentally unsound to say the least not to mention to fact they are getting blown to f**k everywhere.... depleted uranium cant do the environment any good either... america walking out of the kyoto treaty is like america saying f**k you to the planet (considering they are the biggest polluter) no we dont care how long the planet lasts - we'll just get as much now as we can and then take our chances in space i think thats basically what bush is saying.. money rules .... stick your environment up your depleted ass

there it is in a nutshell for ya yankee boyz (anyhow im just getting on a plane to waste a few tons of fuel)

please someone over there get rid of Bush

And how come no one else is allowed to have WMD? just the god dam yanks. They have not got a clue.

The Muslim people will defeat Amwerica, they have the one thing America does not have - They are prepared to Die.

BUSH the new Stalin

Your reply was eloquent, I am just oppoesed to Bush dictating to the world.

With regards to guns, each month some nutter kills half a dozwn in the US, but the blame is never on guns is it.

Hvae you seen bowling for columbine? Bush shouldwatch it.

By the way my gripe is with Bush not the good people of the US , however, I still believ he has open a pandoras box.

Now Im off to open Juliette's --- err i wish

By the way my tying is shite as i am leaning over the arm of a chair typing with my left hand

don't ask why

Originally posted by Mike Garrity Hvae you seen bowling for columbine? Bush shouldwatch it.

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

Originally posted by Grigori Mike...did you forget your medications this morning???Americans aren't willing to die??? Hmm...who are the young men that have lost their lives in Iraq, Afghanistan??? Is the United States Army now hiring mercenaries from Canada???And if these Muslims are so willing to die for their causes, then why didn't Osama fly the planes into the WTC and the Pentagon???You know, I really don't mind when people have a gripe with Bush...he didn't even get the majority of the votes here, so go ahead...scream about that all you want...but when someone starts questioning the American people as a whole, that irks me just a wee bit...Mike, do you realize that if Americans hadn't been willing to lay down their lives, you would probably be living in a part of the Greater German State??? No, the United States didn't win WWII by itself...but without aid from the US, how long would the UK have been able to stand up to the Germans???And as far as only the US having WMDs...what fantasy land are you living in??? Who else has nukes...hmmm...the British have them...the French...India...Russia...Israel might...but if you don't see how it's in the best interest of mankind to limit who has access to these kinds of weapons, you are just as stupid as you allege George W to be...Look at it this simply...guns aren't WMD...and your government won't even allow the genral citizenry to carry them...why???now Mike, get down to a pub..have a couple of pints, and settle down...

Jeff,

Thank you for saving me all the key strokes. One thing I would add for our angry cousin is, "Lend/Lease", look it up...........

And now for something completely different: a man about to explode

Originally posted by Tristan Jayol > Originally posted by Mike Garrity> > > Hvae you seen bowling for columbine? Bush shouldwatch it.>

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

David T. Hardy should bother to learn something about film before he launches into his tirade.

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 And now for something completely different: a man about to explode

Saddam's first meal after emerging from his spider hole?

that's Saddam eating all the food he bought from the money he witheld from the iraqi people

Bush said Iraq had WMD. Clinton said Iraq had WMD. The Democrats said Iraq had WMD. The French said Iraq had WMD. Chief Inspector hans Glix said that Iraq only began to comply with weapons inspectors when the US began its military build up.

So what were we going to do? Let another 10 years go by with Saddam fucking us in the ass? UN resolutions ignored.

Better still, wait until Israel gets nuked or poisened or clobbered, uniting all the Jew hating Arabs under Saddam. 45 minutes would be all it took.

Or do we wait until the bodies in the mass graves start making a run at Hitler's record? Rape rooms and torture chambers.

Or sit around like Europe did ignoring it like they ignored Bosnia/Serbia/Yugoslavia?

Best use of my tax money. Better than welfare.

I had already learned the difference between patriotism and ignorance. People can't demand for intelligence. Or you have it, or you don't.

That's why I don't reply posts like the last one anymore.

Originally posted by twist Bush said Iraq had WMD.Clinton said Iraq had WMD.The Democrats said Iraq had WMD.The French said Iraq had WMD.Chief Inspector hans Glix said that Iraq only began to comply with weapons inspectors when the US began its military build up.So what were we going to do? Let another 10 years go by with Saddam fucking us in the ass? UN resolutions ignored.Better still, wait until Israel gets nuked or poisened or clobbered, uniting all the Jew hating Arabs under Saddam. 45 minutes would be all it took.Or do we wait until the bodies in the mass graves start making a run at Hitler's record? Rape rooms and torture chambers.Or sit around like Europe did ignoring it like they ignored Bosnia/Serbia/Yugoslavia?Best use of my tax money. Better than welfare.

but what do we do about the Arab hating Jews like Sharon

Originally posted by Server Error in "/" Application I had already learned the difference between patriotism and ignorance. People can't demand for intelligence. Or you have it, or you don't.That's why I don't reply posts like the last one anymore.

Please explain how your "non-response" to the post you're not responding to had anything to do with patriotism?

My response had nothing to do with patriotism (sp I am hungover from the strip bar last night). It had to do with the UN. If the UN had any relevance it would have given its resolutions the necessary teeth for enforcement and completion. Bush and Blair tried to get them to do this.

So they have not found any WMDs. But they removed an evil dictator who invades his neighbors, launches missiles at civilian targets, used chemical weapons against civilians and soldiers, attempts genocide (Kurds and Shiites) and places the bodies in mass graves.

I voted against Bush. Probably will vote against him if the Democrats can find someone with half a brain that will let me keep my car, cash and guns. I was not a big yahoo backing this war. But I have no regrets for what this war accomplished.

The people that really lack intelligence are the ones that say that Bush is the evil one and that Saddam should still be in power. Would the world be a better place if the US and GB let Saddam stay in power?

As for Israel. Yes its a crying fucking shame what goes on there. But they offered Arafat everything he asked for and would have given the Palestineans statehood. He turned it down. Be lucky that you do not live in a place where your mother or children or spouse or significant other would go to a grocery store and end up being blown up by some suicide jack off. How do you stop that?? They do not peace. They want all Israelis dead. Bad situation. But remember that Israel is the only stable democracy in that region.

Merry Christmas. May 2004 be a better year for everyone. May peace return to Earth.

Originally posted by twist As for Israel. Yes its a crying fucking shame what goes on there. But they offered Arafat everything he asked for and would have given the Palestineans statehood. He turned it down. Be lucky that you do not live in a place where your mother or children or spouse or significant other would go to a grocery store and end up being blown up by some suicide jack off. How do you stop that?? They do not peace. They want all Israelis dead. Bad situation. But remember that Israel is the only stable democracy in that region.Merry Christmas. May 2004 be a better year for everyone. May peace return to Earth.

israel never offered the palestinians everything they asked for. not during madrid, not during oslo, not ever. and statehood was so far in the distance as to be non-existent. after months and months of very difficult compromises, arguments, and secret talks, the israelis offered a patchwork of semi-autonomous regions that were bound to israel politically, economically and militarily. all members of the palestinian authority were to be vetted by the knesset, israel was responsible for palestinian external security, and trade would be linked to israel. perhaps this would be beneficial for both sides to some extent, but do not confuse it with 'everything they want.' arafat did accept the oslo accords, but after rabin's assassination and the election of netanyahu, the accords fell apart. the oslo accords had left the opportunity open for later talks and more concessions--however, the later talks were more rigid and arafat wanted to hold out for more. had arafat acquiesced, he would have no bargaining chips. the palestinians want east jerusalem as their capital, among other things, and if a binding treaty is signed any dreams of autonomy under conditions amenable to palestinians will be impossible. this is not being stubborn in a belligerent sense, it is simply political savvy, regardless of what one thinks of arafat and his leadership.

as for israel being a democracy: that is debatable, even amongst some israelis and israeli scholars. israel defines itself as a 'jewish state.' it also calls itself a 'democracy.' by defining itself as a state set aside for one particular group, israel has proclaimed its exclusivity, while the term 'democracy' assumes inclusivity. israel must decide which it is, a jewish state, or a democracy for all israelis, one-fifth of whom are non-jewish arabs. it's disconcerting to spend time on a saturday night going down the list of bars and clubs you want to go to, crossing them off because you have an arab with you (who is a citizen of israel, mind) and most bars and clubs don't admit arabs. arab israelis can only live in certain areas (and, conversely, are forbidden from living in most of israel), they must always carry identity papers with them, intermarriage is forbidden by law, and muslim israelis cannot serve in the israeli defense forces (some do want to, contrary to popular belief). with this policy of segregation is it any wonder there is so much misunderstanding and distrust between arabs and jews who are not given the chance to get to know one another as individuals? this israeli governmental policy hurts both arabs and jews. as this is the policy within israel, imagine wht it's like in the occupied teritories, where most arabs don't possess citizenship of any kind and suspicion runs ten times the level!

The fact remains that the Palestineans have been given many offers that could have granted them statehood. These may not have been perfect but they were a start. Compromise is what separate civilized people from peace or bloodshed. Rmember that when you see the new body count of yesterday's bombing. And most unfortunately, the revenge raids.

I almost believe that it requires an act of God to bring peace here. But after years of blaming the Israelis, I now think the Palestineans need to clean their act up and start working for peace.

Originally posted by twist My response had nothing to do with patriotism (sp I am hungover from the strip bar last night). It had to do with the UN. If the UN had any relevance it would have given its resolutions the necessary teeth for enforcement and completion. Bush and Blair tried to get them to do this.So they have not found any WMDs. But they removed an evil dictator who invades his neighbors, launches missiles at civilian targets, used chemical weapons against civilians and soldiers, attempts genocide (Kurds and Shiites) and places the bodies in mass graves.I voted against Bush. Probably will vote against him if the Democrats can find someone with half a brain that will let me keep my car, cash and guns. I was not a big yahoo backing this war. But I have no regrets for what this war accomplished.The people that really lack intelligence are the ones that say that Bush is the evil one and that Saddam should still be in power. Would the world be a better place if the US and GB let Saddam stay in power?As for Israel. Yes its a crying fucking shame what goes on there. But they offered Arafat everything he asked for and would have given the Palestineans statehood. He turned it down. Be lucky that you do not live in a place where your mother or children or spouse or significant other would go to a grocery store and end up being blown up by some suicide jack off. How do you stop that?? They do not peace. They want all Israelis dead. Bad situation. But remember that Israel is the only stable democracy in that region.Merry Christmas. May 2004 be a better year for everyone. May peace return to Earth.

Hi there Twisty,

My response was not directed at you, but at 'Server Error in "/" Application'.

However, your misdirected response at me was an eleoquent response to the guy I was questioning.

So, if you're still going to vote Democratic, who would it be out of the available candidates? Or, who would be your choice of those not running? Would you vote for......Hillary?

Peace to you and yours!

Originally posted by twist The fact remains that the Palestineans have been given many offers that could have granted them statehood. These may not have been perfect but they were a start. Compromise is what separate civilized people from peace or bloodshed. Rmember that when you see the new body count of yesterday's bombing. And most unfortunately, the revenge raids.I almost believe that it requires an act of God to bring peace here. But after years of blaming the Israelis, I now think the Palestineans need to clean their act up and start working for peace.

i picked up a palestinian flag in the west bank a few years back that says 'independent [sic] day, 1993' on it. nice wish, but most likely a pipe dream. regarding your comment on palestinian statehood, the main reason for arafat holding out (no matter what the 'offical line' may be) is east jerusalem. it will be a cold day in hell before israel gives up east jerusalem. some scholars (including edward said) suggested making jerusalem a united nations international zone. again, probably a cold day in hell.

the palestinians have many reasons to be upset with the israelis. not all of them take up arms and want violence, however. if the israelis want an end to the suicide bombings they must look at the underlying reasons behind why people are willing to die and kill for their cause. it's economic devastation and social and political dispossession that breed terrorism--not only in israel/palestine, but everywhere. also, the palestinians have no history of self-rule, only of occupation--by the ottomans, the british, and now the israelis. they need cooperation from the israelis in order to build a civil society, not militarily meted-out collective punishment. this is what hamas and the islamic jihad want, to destroy any chance of peace by baiting israel.

i always wonder what might have been had rabin not been assassinated. he understood the need for self-determination for the palestinians because he had been there himself in the 1940s, when jewish organizations used terror against the british to gain their independence. i have a feeling things would be very different now.

Originally posted by Grigori on a lighter note...have any of you seen this???The Real Saddam: http://www.madblast.com/view.cfm?type=FunFlash&display=2224

excellent!

Bit heavy this thread now!