Warnie is well on his way on his mission to single handely win the final ashes test on his own by taking 5 wickets on the first day.
Funny how somebody can go from boofhead to hero in one day.
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Ronald Kirsch wrote: Warnie is well on his way on his mission to single handely win the final ashes test on his own by taking 5 wickets on the first day.
Funny how somebody can go from boofhead to hero in one day.
Andrew Strauss was also well on his way to winning the final Ashes test by scoring his second hundred of the series on the first day. Andrew Flintoff added a couple of runs as well.
Funny how someone can stay a hero for more than one day.
As if we didn't already know God was an Ingerlishman.
The skies are BLACK above London!
Yey!
Very surprised they took bad light. They need as much batting time as possible to win this one.
At least the famous British weather is doing its stuff right now and so long as they aren't batting, we will get the draw to regain the Ashes.
Oh here we go... All the English football fans are interested in the cricket all of a sudden.
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oldmonkey wrote:
Ronald Kirsch wrote: Warnie is well on his way on his mission to single handely win the final ashes test on his own by taking 5 wickets on the first day.
Funny how somebody can go from boofhead to hero in one day.
Andrew Strauss was also well on his way to winning the final Ashes test by scoring his second hundred of the series on the first day. Andrew Flintoff added a couple of runs as well.
Funny how someone can stay a hero for more than one day.
I've always wondered one thing re: English cricket-there have been a number of instances where thier form has made a dramatic improvement when they draft Sewth Efrican players into thier team(Tony Greig, Graham Hick, Kevin Pietersen and Andrew Strauss spring to mind). Coincidence?? I wonder....
Well it's hard to see us getting up from here.
Fair enough England, you get your urn back. You've improved out of sight.
Although I can't help but think if a couple of coin tosses and dubious umpiring decisions had gone our way, things could've been a little different.
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When you won the toss Ponting made the wrong decision so it's pointless complaining that you didn't win it enough.:)
Umpiring decisions? We're getting a bit desperate here aren't we? You can still win this game and tie the series but face it, apart from Shane Warne the Aussies were simply not good enough this summer.
James Thomas wrote: And course Australia would never do anything like that!
At least we only did it once. BTW, we were a pretty average lot cricket-wise this time around, but don't count on keeping the urn for too long though........:p
James Thomas wrote: When you won the toss Ponting made the wrong decision so it's pointless complaining that you didn't win it enough.:)
Umpiring decisions? We're getting a bit desperate here aren't we? You can still win this game and tie the series but face it, apart from Shane Warne the Aussies were simply not good enough this summer.
Not sure that I quite agree with you.
Aussies have definitely been playing poorly. However, in the match where Kasprowicz and Lee finished 3 runs short it's been clearly established that Kaspa wasn't actually out. Replays indicate his hand wasn't connected to the bat at the point of impact, meaning you can't be given out caught. Dare I say if he wasn't out, we would have won that match and the series takes on an entirely different perspective. So yes, umpiring decisions have played a part and there have been others.
You've won the toss on at least 2 occasions where the pitches have been prepared to be absolutely flat and lifeless, a wonderful advantage to bat first.
You can't really imply that you've been comprehensively the better team. You've got away with a couple of wins that went right down to the wire and we wasted you in another game. This series is on your home turf as well let's not forget.
As I said, fair play to England, they've been the better team for most of the series. And often when that happens, luck falls your way.
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However, in the match where Kasprowicz and Lee finished 3 runs short it's been clearly established that Kaspa wasn't actually out. Replays indicate his hand wasn't connected to the bat at the point of impact, meaning you can't be given out caught. Dare I say if he wasn't out, we would have won that match and the series takes on an entirely different perspective.
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When viewed in super slo-mo on maximum zoom from three different angles! In real time and seen from the umpire's perspective it was only descision. Kasprowicz himself said that if he'd been on the fielding side and it hadn't been given then he'd have been pretty upset.
Anyway, lots of lovely grey skies around this morning...
Kaspar would say that, being a bowler and all! All the more reason for greater umpire access to replays really.
As I've said, I'm not saying the better performing team hasn't won the series. But you can't deny there's been a slice of luck here and there.
As for praying for rain, sheesh.
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Shergold Six wrote:
James Thomas wrote: And course Australia would never do anything like that!
At least we only did it once.
Andrew Symonds.....? Not Sith Ifrikan, admittedly, but not exactly fair dinkum either!
depthcharge wrote:
James Thomas wrote: When you won the toss Ponting made the wrong decision so it's pointless complaining that you didn't win it enough.:)
Umpiring decisions? We're getting a bit desperate here aren't we? You can still win this game and tie the series but face it, apart from Shane Warne the Aussies were simply not good enough this summer.
Not sure that I quite agree with you.
Aussies have definitely been playing poorly. However, in the match where Kasprowicz and Lee finished 3 runs short it's been clearly established that Kaspa wasn't actually out. Replays indicate his hand wasn't connected to the bat at the point of impact, meaning you can't be given out caught. Dare I say if he wasn't out, we would have won that match and the series takes on an entirely different perspective. So yes, umpiring decisions have played a part and there have been others.
You've won the toss on at least 2 occasions where the pitches have been prepared to be absolutely flat and lifeless, a wonderful advantage to bat first.
You can't really imply that you've been comprehensively the better team. You've got away with a couple of wins that went right down to the wire and we wasted you in another game. This series is on your home turf as well let's not forget.
As I said, fair play to England, they've been the better team for most of the series. And often when that happens, luck falls your way.
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Thought it was the Poms who were supposed to be the whingers?
Australia have been comprehensively outplayed in more sessions than they have had the upper hand, and as John Buchanan himself will testify, the great Australian strengths of the last twenty years have been based on winning sessions. Keep winning sessions and you win games. Not all, but most. England have won most of the sessions in this series.
They've just done some analysis on the dodgy decisions/correct decisions made so far, and the sides are absolutely level on wrong LBWs given, with Australia two ahead on shouts survived when they shouldn't have been. Bat-pads not given when they should have been is also very close, and I think there's 3 in it on the unseen edges through to the keeper.
The beauty of the old heads or tails system is that it only does half the job. The captains still need to read the conditions and the pitch and then make the most appropriate decisions. Punter punted wrongly the once, and that's all it takes!
Numbers of bad umpiring decisions is one thing. When they actually occur is another matter.
Quite amusing really. You're all claiming to be comprehensively the better team and yet you've been pounded in one game, won two by incredibly slim margins, and now most of you are praying for rain to gift you a home series.
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It's all swings and roundabouts though. Like Lee bowling Banger off a no-ball. Whose fault is that?
Best make sure that the straw you are clutching at wasn't previously used by someone else to wipe his ass......
As I said earlier, winning Test matches is all about winning sessions, and building on those successes and maintaining pressure. This Australian side has played very well in patches, recovering from a shaky start to dominate four consecutive sessions in the first Test. That's the only match in which they have really held the upper hand for more than one session at a time though. Only the weather saved them in the 3rd test, else you'd already be looking at defeat.
Is anyone actually doing any work today? Or simply watching/listening/reading about the cricket.
effectively 227-7. theres about 50 overs left. My nerves are shredded.
oldmonkey wrote: It's all swings and roundabouts though. Like Lee bowling Banger off a no-ball. Whose fault is that?
Best make sure that the straw you are clutching at wasn't previously used by someone else to wipe his ass......
As I said earlier, winning Test matches is all about winning sessions, and building on those successes and maintaining pressure. This Australian side has played very well in patches, recovering from a shaky start to dominate four consecutive sessions in the first Test. That's the only match in which they have really held the upper hand for more than one session at a time though. Only the weather saved them in the 3rd test, else you'd already be looking at defeat.
Thanks for the lecture on how to win Test cricket matches OM. But as you might appreciate, we're fairly well versed down here... ;)
If you read my previous posts you'll see that there's no straw clutching going on. Be fair.
I've stated more than enough times that England have been the superior team this time around. But if it hasn't been a tightly fought contest, there simply wouldn't be all this press about it being the best cricket series ever.
The only other point I've made is that they've rode some luck along the way. Winning tosses on flat tracks etc, as referred to above.
Take it or leave it, I'm not bothered.
Enjoy your Ashes, I've almost forgotten what it's like not to hold them. Think Fine Time was in the charts last time that happened... ;)
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I'm no expert but I understand we actually use test match venues that suit you, as opposed to ones which would suit us. If true it makes bringing up the loss of a couple of coin tosses on flat pitches a bit off.
You can curate the pitches any way you like, that's an advantage of a home series. Everyone enjoys that.
Give us a break lads...
You've won the series, let it go!
I look forward to hearing plenty more from all of you who've suddenly realised cricket isn't such a completely crap game after all. Who knows, you might even forget the football team for a few days.
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depthcharge wrote:
Enjoy your Ashes, I've almost forgotten what it's like not to hold them. Think Fine Time was in the charts last time that happened... ;)
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Think it was probably BLT!!!!! 
