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Well, not quite yet, but he is going to die soon. He was seen getting hammered not long after getting a new liver because he's a pathetic alchololic. if he got a new liver because he damaged his old one with drink, don't you think he'd stop drinking? If reports of him souring his new liver with alcohol are true, he's better off dead. I just hope they can farm out his parts to people who need them.

I met George Best in 1995 in London. He was completly wasted but very friendly. I've seen highlight reels of his playing days but have no concept of his value as a footballer.

Edit: Title's been edited. A bit too close to the bone. A legend as a footballer, wasted his life with drink. Nearly as good as Jimmy Johnstone, but not quite.

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but have no concept of his value as a footballer

then shut the fuck up

Tosser

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: Well, not quite yet, but he is going to die soon. He was seen getting hammered not long after getting a new liver because he's a pathetic alchololic. if he got a new liver because he damaged his old one with drink, don't you think he'd stop drinking? If reports of him souring his new liver with alcohol are true, he's better off dead. I just hope they can farm out his parts to people who need them.

I met George Best in 1995 in London. He was completly wasted but very friendly. I've seen highlight reels of his playing days but have no concept of his value as a footballer.

Thats a bit unfair. The Alcoholism is as much a sickness as the liver disease. He is an easy man to poke fun at. Im no football fan, nor do I like much of what Ive heard him say, but to have a go at someone for being an alcoholic isnt right. He is a human being, and deserves to be treated as one.

Also: Organ donation is a really good thing to do, regardless of where your spare parts go to. There has been a subtle message from the redtops about all this "look at what happens your liver" etc. Its a bullshit argument, that doesnt hold up.

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he needs help, that doesn't mean he's better off dead. and he's a football legend, by the way.

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success! i figured this would be a way to piss off a few people!

you're right, alcoholism is a sickness. however, when someone gets a new organ because an activity destroyed their organ, then continues to do the same activities that destroyed the original organ, that person is not deserving of the donor organ. people do quit drinking. it's not impossible, but you have to want to quit.

His skills as a footballer should have nothing to do with his access to healty organs, but i assume he got special treatment because he scored a few goals in an England top.

Let's say Joe Average was a lifetime smoker and needed a lung transplant. Lets say they had a donor and did a successful transplant. The reason for Joe Average's original Lung going tits-up was smoking 5 packs a day. If Joe Average continues to smoke after getting a new lung, is he an asshole or a hero? If he dies because of the continued smoking, should we feel sympathy or did Joe get what he deserved? As the old cliche says, "You made your bed, now you've got to lie in it"

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Barney Army wrote:

but have no concept of his value as a footballer

then shut the fuck up

Tosser

Cha-Ching!

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: but i assume he got special treatment because he scored a few goals in an England top.

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: Well, not quite yet, but he is going to die soon. He was seen getting hammered not long after getting a new liver because he's a pathetic alchololic. if he got a new liver because he damaged his old one with drink, don't you think he'd stop drinking? If reports of him souring his new liver with alcohol are true, he's better off dead. I just hope they can farm out his parts to people who need them.

I met George Best in 1995 in London. He was completly wasted but very friendly. I've seen highlight reels of his playing days but have no concept of his value as a footballer.

Despite whatever Bestie has done, that was pretty sick.

PS Oh yeah, he played for Northern Ireland, so get your facts right.

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we all better off dead.:D

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: success! i figured this would be a way to piss off a few people!

you're right, alcoholism is a sickness. however, when someone gets a new organ because an activity destroyed their organ, then continues to do the same activities that destroyed the original organ, that person is not deserving of the donor organ. people do quit drinking. it's not impossible, but you have to want to quit.

His skills as a footballer should have nothing to do with his access to healty organs, but i assume he got special treatment because he scored a few goals in an England top.

Let's say Joe Average was a lifetime smoker and needed a lung transplant. Lets say they had a donor and did a successful transplant. The reason for Joe Average's original Lung going tits-up was smoking 5 packs a day. If Joe Average continues to smoke after getting a new lung, is he an asshole or a hero? If he dies because of the continued smoking, should we feel sympathy or did Joe get what he deserved? As the old cliche says, "You made your bed, now you've got to lie in it"

The only problem I can see is that there arent enough donors.

A liver transplant, I can imagine, is not fun.

I am a donor, and would be happy if my dead, useless body was used to give Bestie a few more nights on the piss. Thats not an ethical issue for me or you.

The medical system is there to treat sick people. Where do you draw the line? turn away smokers, drinkers, drug takers, sportspeople, fat people, etc, etc.

The root of most illness, and most accidents is carelessness.

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he could have my liver and as long as he waited properly in line.

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He's a Wife beater.Anyone how slags me for stating that is condoning beating women.so fuck off.

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i really have no idea who this guy is.

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Team Szwajkos wrote: i really have no idea who this guy is.

he beats women up.and the whole population still want to pat him on the back

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we have OJ Simpson a well-known wife killer.

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here we go...yawn

let he without sin cast the first stone.......etc etc

I am not worthy to be in the presence of such highly moral people so I'll do one.

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Barney Army wrote: here we go...yawn

let he without sin cast the first stone.......etc etc

Nice one Barney. Couldn't have put it better myself.

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he was without doubt, one of the best football players of the last 40 years.

shame he had to blight that history with all the tales of his drinking.

he is very poorly at the moment, and myself as a fellow human, wish him a full recovery (i know this is not very likely, but I wouldn't wish death on anyone)

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Barney Army wrote:

but have no concept of his value as a footballer

then shut the fuck up

Tosser

Seconded

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BIGINOIL wrote:

Barney Army wrote:

but have no concept of his value as a footballer

then shut the fuck up

Tosser

Seconded

just being the devil's advocate, so please dont slag me, but shouldnt his value as a human being be considered more so?

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Apparently his name appeared on a New Order b-side once too?!

Fcuk knows which one though? 1963, perhaps?! :dunno:

What a bunch of wife-beater supporting alcoholic cnuts those New Order boys must be though, eh?

To say George Best is English though?! After having actually met him?! Hmmmm.

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Szwajkos United wrote:

BIGINOIL wrote:

Barney Army wrote:

but have no concept of his value as a footballer

then shut the fuck up

Tosser

Seconded

just being the devil's advocate, so please dont slag me, but shouldnt his value as a human being be considered more so?

My own opinion, so don't slag me, is that he would come out better if we judged him as a footballer.

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devil's advocate again:

O. J Simpson would be judged better on the merits of an american footballer than as a wife killa'. Dont slag me again,although i may deserve it, because i shouldnt equate Best with O.J..

i really have no op. on this Best fella, just being curious and nosey.

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: Well, not quite yet, but he is going to die soon. He was seen getting hammered not long after getting a new liver because he's a pathetic alchololic. if he got a new liver because he damaged his old one with drink, don't you think he'd stop drinking? If reports of him souring his new liver with alcohol are true, he's better off dead. I just hope they can farm out his parts to people who need them.

He's pathetic? That is disgusting. You sad, sorry, ........... :thumbdown:

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R.I.P.

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Digital Mike Binoche wrote: He shops in Tesco's

George Best or OJ Simpson? Good offers on the wine lately.....

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Szwajkos United wrote: O. J Simpson would be judged better on the merits of an american footballer than as a wife killa'.

In England, we only really know him as the bloke out of the Naked Gun movies.

Oh, and that car-chase, of course.

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:laugh:

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Al Jarvis wrote:

Szwajkos United wrote: O. J Simpson would be judged better on the merits of an american footballer than as a wife killa'.

In England, we only really know him as the bloke out of the Naked Gun movies.

Oh, and that car-chase, of course.

ahh the good ole days.

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote:

His skills as a footballer should have nothing to do with his access to healty organs, but i assume he got special treatment because he scored a few goals in an England top.

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he played Internationally for Northern Ireland

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Al Jarvis wrote:

Szwajkos United wrote: O. J Simpson would be judged better on the merits of an american footballer than as a wife killa'.

In England, we only really know him as the bloke out of the Naked Gun movies.

Oh, and that car-chase, of course.

Bullitt (sp?)?

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Georgie The Belfast Boy

With a ball at his feet, he wasn’t just neat He was Merlin in disguise When put to the test, he was always the Best And not just in Irish eyes When Eusebio played, they said he was great With Manu he would toy But Eusebio and Benfica met their fate When they met the Belfast boy He showed them how to play the game Many a face was wreathed in smiles As they watched wee Georgie lay his claim To be Best from the British Isles Georgie wasn’t a saintly man He was too fond of the drink When he started goin’ down the pan Some said, “Let him sink”. There are those who think the worst of him still And smirk as they watch him fall But football fans will remember the skill Of the greatest of them all

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His son though, what a cnut! :laugh:

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His wife though? what a ......... what's that word? Oh yeah. I remember.

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Wino wrote: His wife though? what a ......... what's that word? Oh yeah. I remember.

Wino?

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Ouch!:smoking:

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its alway sad to see a gifted sports person decline like that, and probably die far before his time.

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Very true Ronald. But I really hate to see them become wife beaters.

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twist wrote: Very true Ronald. But I really hate to see them become wife beaters.

true as well. i would never support beating wives or any females well anybody for that matter. i probably should not have to state this here.

his wife beating is probably a result of his drinking. not an excuse though. i can never understand people who get aggro when drinking, as i'm such a mellow drunk (when drinking).

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twist wrote: Very true Ronald. But I really hate to see them become wife beaters.

i happen to own 5 or 6 wife beaters. they're very comfortable.

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twist wrote:

:abovelol: :clap: :laugh: :lol:

:uhoh:

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twist wrote:

:abovelol: :abovelol: :abovelol: :abovelol: :abovelol: :abovelol: :abovelol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Just getting back on my chair...

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Alcoholics and smokers need to cease their habits for at least 6 months before they get transplants, and that's all there is to it.

George did stop drinking, so he was eligable. When he relapsed later on he needed help not villification; given how much he's fighting to stay alive that proves that he does want to live.

Addictions are illnesses.

P.S. The title of the thread is in pretty poor taste.

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As a footballer, Bestie is a LEGEND, possibly the greatest player of all time (excl Dalglish).

As a person, he's an alcoholic, and it may soon kill him. sad eh.

my uncle (an Evertonian) reckons he's the best player he's ever seen.

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Al Jarvis wrote: Apparently his name appeared on a New Order b-side once too?!

Fcuk knows which one though? 1963, perhaps?! :dunno:

What a bunch of wife-beater supporting alcoholic cnuts those New Order boys must be though, eh?

To say George Best is English though?! After having actually met him?! Hmmmm.

Or was it Round & Round? The theme for "Best & Marsh",the talkie footie programme he used to do with Rodney Marsh,late on on ITV.

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a footballing god!!!

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john kershaw wrote: a footballing god!!!

best= a football Profit

the one true Football God

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frank smarra wrote:

john kershaw wrote: a footballing god!!!

best= a football Profit

the one true Football God

aah not that cheatin bastard again!!!

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frank smarra wrote:

john kershaw wrote: a footballing god!!!

best= a football Profit

the one true Football God

Damn.Isn't he dead yet? :ignore:

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Ronald Kirsch wrote:

twist wrote: Very true Ronald. But I really hate to see them become wife beaters.

true as well. i would never support beating wives or any females well anybody for that matter. i probably should not have to state this here.

his wife beating is probably a result of his drinking. not an excuse though. i can never understand people who get aggro when drinking, as i'm such a mellow drunk (when drinking).

He sounds like quite the man... I wonder how he'd fare against a man?

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Damn.Isn't he dead yet? :ignore:

Maradona is immortal!

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was it the Maradona Comments? well then blame the Argies the Americans had nothing to do with that one.

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This is all a bit heavy for a site dedicated to New Order really! Best was possibly the greatest player of all time, just didn't get the chance to prove it fully! He was easily distracted away from the game, as most young, rich, famous & good looking blokes in the sixties would easily have been. (nothing much has changed, just that now there is so much money involved in football that the clubs that 'own' the likes of Rooney, Terry, Lampard....won't let them go the same way, otherwise they would be sacked and disgraced!)- unless they are called Alan Smith..... Let's just hope we are not having the same conversation in 10 years about a certain Paul Gascoigne.....

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Jimll wrote: Let's just hope we are not having the same conversation in 10 years about a certain Paul Gascoigne.....

ten years? that's being generous, unfortunately.

as for maradona: he's a right fat bastard now.

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AgentWood wrote:

Jimll wrote: Let's just hope we are not having the same conversation in 10 years about a certain Paul Gascoigne.....

ten years? that's being generous, unfortunately.

as for maradona: he's a right fat bastard now.

:jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop:

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AgentWood wrote:

twist wrote: Very true Ronald. But I really hate to see them become wife beaters.

i happen to own 5 or 6 wife beaters. they're very comfortable.

ok that must be an americanism for an item of clothing. what is it?

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Ronald Kirsch wrote:

AgentWood wrote:

twist wrote: Very true Ronald. But I really hate to see them become wife beaters.

i happen to own 5 or 6 wife beaters. they're very comfortable.

ok that must be an americanism for an item of clothing. what is it?

Wife beaters

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craig's digitalwaters wrote: smokers need to cease their habits for at least 6 months before they get transplants, and that's all there is to it.

if you apply this kind of logic a little further, shouldn't you also ban travelling salespeople from driving a car for 6 months prior to a transplant should they need one after an accident?

now do you get how stupid it sounds? maybe next time, think before you write.

why should smokers need to stop smoking for 6 months before a transpant? that is ridiculous. if it wasn't for smokers, the basic rate of tax would be much higher the world over. get a grip on reality you fool. if smoking is so bad, why has no government ANYWHERE in the world banned it, or made it illegal etc ?

It's because they really like the revenue they make from the poor bastards who get hooked on the evil habit. so to say to someone who pays that much tax due to smoking "No, you cant have an operation", I feel is just downright silly

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He's started breathing without a ventilator now so there's some improvement, although i'm sure he's got a long way to go before he's over the worst.

I sincerely hope he pulls through. Bestie is a footie legend and that isn't going to change, irrespective of the personal problems he has.

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Said on the radio today that he was awake and 'mobile'. Seems like he's on the mend then.

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Dave Algeo wrote: Said on the radio today that he was awake and 'mobile'. Seems like he's on the mend then.

yeah, he's off to the nearest pub for a jar or 12

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: success! i figured this would be a way to piss off a few people!

you're right, alcoholism is a sickness. however, when someone gets a new organ because an activity destroyed their organ, then continues to do the same activities that destroyed the original organ, that person is not deserving of the donor organ. people do quit drinking. it's not impossible, but you have to want to quit.

Let's say Joe Average was a lifetime smoker and needed a lung transplant. Lets say they had a donor and did a successful transplant. The reason for Joe Average's original Lung going tits-up was smoking 5 packs a day. If Joe Average continues to smoke after getting a new lung, is he an asshole or a hero? If he dies because of the continued smoking, should we feel sympathy or did Joe get what he deserved? As the old cliche says, "You made your bed, now you've got to lie in it"

agreed 100%

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