Apple going out of computer business
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twist wrote: Steve Jobs says only Ipod production to continue.
More on this April 1st story later...
Would be a good april fool if it weren't true.
After all, they build FUCKING SHITEBOX PC's now not computers.
twist wrote: Steve Jobs says only Ipod production to continue.
More on this April 1st story later...
Ah good. We won't get smug Apple fans telling us they far more superior than PC's, anymore.
Burt Reynolds wrote:
twist wrote: Steve Jobs says only Ipod production to continue.
More on this April 1st story later...
Ah good. We won't get smug Apple fans telling us they far more superior than PC's, anymore.
How many gigs have NO used a PC for?
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Burt Reynolds wrote:
twist wrote: Steve Jobs says only Ipod production to continue.
More on this April 1st story later...
Ah good. We won't get smug Apple fans telling us they far more superior than PC's, anymore.
truth is sometimes hard to hear 
The only news I read today about Apple that for its 30th birthday they are releasing a new logo.
They just put a new power book on the market so I can't imagine they would stop production now.
So what's going to happen to the Apple computer with the Intel processor (the ones that just came out)? It would be a waste of money to discontinue them or something after they have been released. I don't own Apple products, but I hope that this is an April Fool's Day joke. 
It is an april fool gag cozzie....but many a true word is spoken in jest....i cannot imagine an intel based mac being any less mental and ancient inside than a PC...
FFS I already seen DOS-XP available online for them LOL
Yes, Steve I know it's an April Fool Gag. Why do you think I put the skeptic smiley on the end of my post?:D
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: Yes, Steve I know it's an April Fool Gag. Why do you think I put the skeptic smiley on the end of my post?:D
In order to save face?
Sounds like an April Fool to me.
As for the whole Apple vs. PC debate well I made my choice a long time ago and it was always going to be PC. They're easier and cheaper to build, get parts for, customise etc. etc. Not to mention there's a much wider software and gaming library available for them. I've also had Apple users say "Apple computers are far superior" but for what I personally want to do they're not; they're overpriced and really limited.
Steve, no offence but saying New Order use Macs means fuck all to me. Their crew use Macs for their gigs but the home user PC market is quite different I.e. most of the people who use this board. You can manipulate just as much audio with PCs as you can with Apples, all depends on the software installed.
I'm not totally against Apple mind, I think the iPods are great. I was initially skeptical but my 40gb is over 2 years old now and still going as strong as the day I got it 
Seems to have a crash-free relationship with my evil Windows XP PC 
I agree with you about the home users and the PC comment but for audio and video applications the Mac is the industry standard.
Don't ask me my opinion. I'm totally biased. I've been using a mac since I was in grade school. I've tried doing sound on a PC and was irritated with in 15 minutes.
I've always used PC, but only used Macs in school. I'm surprised that some industries prefer Macs since PC has a wider selection of hardware and software.
God, I wish Computer Shopper magazine is in the student store again.
Macs get (got) more horsepower per MHz, and are more stable. They are the choice of a professional in an environment where a BSOD or such like costs £000's.
You're totally right about the amount of software and games for Windows (don't forget plenty of PC's run Linux or BSD (OS-X but free)). But I've seen the two systems head to head a few times and also used macs in studios a lot (and a windows and linux pc at home). The reason NO use mac (on stage, off stage and at home) is the reason I said it was a better system.....it is a more stable platform and much more modern...PC's (and presumably intelmacs) have all sorts of 30 and 40 yr old bits inside them that slow them down (IRQ steering anyone?).
A PC running linux or BSD can match a mac for stability for sure, and Xp is amazing by MS previous standards...but really if you want a machine that you switch on, use for 40 hours running DTP or Music or Video editting and shutdown...mac it is.
Of course there are PC's with the same build quality too, Carillion for instance...but they cost mac money and are still stuck with all DOS's stupid limitations (try clicking on your adress bar in iE without your cdrom spinning, I dare you....a perfect proof of how pissy the structure of dos is)
PC's are the reason Slightlyarrow no longer gig...would you plug YOURS into 25KW of sound?
Cath wrote: I agree with you about the personal users and the PC comment but for audio and video applications the Mac is the industry standard.
True, I know they are pretty shit hot for that sort of thing but PCs have caught up considerably over the years I think. I suppose if I could reword my original sentence I would say "You can manipulate just as much audio with PCs as you can with Apples, all depends on the software AND hardware installed."
An ex-flatmate of mine who did Graphic Design at Uni got himself a Powerbook. I spent five minutes on it and thought "this is useless for what I need to do" but then I was doing Computering Networking and Distributed Systems! But for his design coursework it must've been in it's element.
I'm a bit dim when it comes to the PC world. What is the average cost of a top of the line laptop?
[brown]alistair[/brown] wrote:
Cath wrote: I agree with you about the personal users and the PC comment but for audio and video applications the Mac is the industry standard.
True, I know they are pretty shit hot for that sort of thing but PCs have caught up considerably over the years I think. I suppose if I could reword my original sentence I would say "You can manipulate just as much audio with PCs as you can with Apples, all depends on the software AND hardware installed."
An ex-flatmate of mine who did Graphic Design at Uni got himself a Powerbook. I spent five minutes on it and thought "this is useless for what I need to do" but then I was doing Computering Networking and Distributed Systems! But for his design coursework it must've been in it's element.
I agree with you, it depends on what you are using it for. I do sound and video work so it's perfect for me and I never use it to play video games.
I have noticed I only crash when I use Microsoft Office.. 
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: Yes, Steve I know it's an April Fool Gag. Why do you think I put the skeptic smiley on the end of my post?:D
COs you're trying to make up for 1,000-odd posts lacking in the full range of available smilies by using every single one of them in the next few days? It must be the worst day of year for you Cozzie - a good few additions to the Stupid Things thread today?
Snorri xxx
Steve Campbell wrote: Macs get (got) more horsepower per MHz, and are more stable. They are the choice of a professional in an environment where a BSOD or such like costs £000's.
You're totally right about the amount of software and games for Windows (don't forget plenty of PC's run Linux or BSD (OS-X but free)). But I've seen the two systems head to head a few times and also used macs in studios a lot (and a windows and linux pc at home). The reason NO use mac (on stage, off stage and at home) is the reason I said it was a better system.....it is a more stable platform and much more modern...PC's (and presumably intelmacs) have all sorts of 30 and 40 yr old bits inside them that slow them down (IRQ steering anyone?).
A PC running linux or BSD can match a mac for stability for sure, and Xp is amazing by MS previous standards...but really if you want a machine that you switch on, use for 40 hours running DTP or Music or Video editting and shutdown...mac it is.
Of course there are PC's with the same build quality too, Carillion for instance...but they cost mac money and are still stuck with all DOS's stupid limitations (try clicking on your adress bar in iE without your cdrom spinning, I dare you....a perfect proof of how pissy the structure of dos is)
PC's are the reason Slightlyarrow no longer gig...would you plug YOURS into 25KW of sound?
OK, Dr. Whoever. I'm considering buying a computer soon. What's your advice, and why (*try* to offer this advice in English, btw-- geekspeak not understood here :D )? Laptop or desktop? Mac, PC or ????
Try them both and see what you like best. Mac comes with a user friendly software bundle called ilife. Its not the best software but its easy to use for the novice.
I have used both, although my last Mac was a '95 powerbook, and slow as fook, so I sold it off. Currently using Dells at school, and like them, although I've always been partial to Macs. However, Mac always comes at a premium, and I'm wondering whather I should pay the premium, or change loyalties. Mind, I think Gates is Satan incarnate, but there has to be more reason than that for a penniless student to pay a premium to Jobs.
Then there's the whole question of laptop vs. desktops, and the premium paid for laptops.
And then there's completely foreign territory like Linux...
No wonder Tabbsy sticks with shaggin' sheep... It's a confusing world out there, and sheep shaggin' is what he knows best.
Anyway, tryin' to expand my knowledge base.
i like macs. my first workplace had them. they are just so user friendly, but i haven't used one in almost 10 years now.
twist wrote: Steve Jobs says only Ipod production to continue.
More on this April 1st story later...
Well, I had to look at this twice, if only cause there was a story about the Beatles Apple Corps v. Apple Computers yesterday, which I hadn't given much thought about. Turns out the story was about ITunes using the trademarked Apple logo.
