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Attention My Fellow American (NOOLers): How many of you know that we're going to get National ID cards in 2008?

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Someone did a presentation on the pros and cons of this issue in my computer ethics class. I thought that this was just a proposed program, not the one that would actually happen! I got sick to my stomach when I heard this...

:barf:

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I actually wrote a column that touched on this. Here's an excerpt...

Carrying I.D. While Riding

There's more. On May 5, 2005, the House of Representatives approved an emergency appropriations bill for "Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief." Included in the bill is the REAL ID Act, which will create standards for a federally approved, electronically readable identification card that states must comply with. This card will be required for air travel, opening bank accounts, collecting Social Security payments, and using virtually all government services. Because these cards will be issued by the states, but must comply with federal standards, it is virtually certain that driver's licenses will become national ID cards.

The federal government has already signaled the meaning of "electronically readable" with its new requirements for embedded-chip technology in U.S. passports. These chips can be read from 30 feet away without any awareness on the part of the passport holder that the chip is being scanned. This technology is guaranteed to raise new Fourth Amendment questions when it is deployed.

Not likely to see any more legislation like this for the next two years, thank God. ;)

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Americans have an aversion to having their papers in order.

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Comrade Shampanyov wrote: I actually wrote a column that touched on this. Here's an excerpt...

Carrying I.D. While Riding

There's more. On May 5, 2005, the House of Representatives approved an emergency appropriations bill for "Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief." Included in the bill is the REAL ID Act, which will create standards for a federally approved, electronically readable identification card that states must comply with. This card will be required for air travel, opening bank accounts, collecting Social Security payments, and using virtually all government services. Because these cards will be issued by the states, but must comply with federal standards, it is virtually certain that driver's licenses will become national ID cards.

The federal government has already signaled the meaning of "electronically readable" with its new requirements for embedded-chip technology in U.S. passports. These chips can be read from 30 feet away without any awareness on the part of the passport holder that the chip is being scanned. This technology is guaranteed to raise new Fourth Amendment questions when it is deployed.

Not likely to see any more legislation like this for the next two years, thank God. ;)

Are you sure Comrade? The classmates who did the presentation said that it will happen. I hope the Dems trash the bill (OK, that's a liberal standpoint; but I'm not entirely polar)

Now, next question: It made me sick because I don't want to live in a police state. I want each of the 50 states to have control over ID cards. I'd rather kill myself than to get a National ID card... In addition, I'm still frustrated with the way my college paper deceived me on the voting guide when it comes to non-partisan judges...

I did not rely on any media (TV, internet, newspapers) to make my decision. I solely went by what the candidates said; I totally voted like I was a blank slate. Now I realize voting like that is like Russian roulette...

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[magenta]shedmonite61[/magenta] wrote: Are you sure Comrade? The classmates who did the presentation said that it will happen. I hope the Dems trash the bill

I'm certain that bill will take effect. But we won't see any more police state legislation coming out of this Congress. We'd need a Republican majority for that to happen.

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Whatever it is, I like my NC driver's permit (now expired) and my military ID fine. I don't want to have a National ID. It's will be over my dead body... I can't believe I'm still so mad over that...

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we are meant to get one of those as well. it is an id card in anything but name. we'll be needing it to access all government services.

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No duh, Ron. You work for the government. Talk about dumb redundancy...:skeptic:

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[magenta]shedmonite61[/magenta] wrote: No duh, Ron. You work for the government. Talk about dumb redundancy...:skeptic:

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honestly I don't get that. I didn't make a statement one way or the other

at the moment all information is still held more or less in seperate databases although some data matching does take place.

I suppose it will be good for example if somedody applies for social security benifits and the govermnment employee can instantly match claimed income to tax returns.

the danger is in big brother watching you. i don't like the idea of all information being centralised. the opportunity for abuse is just too great.

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OK, OK... I took this a little too far... I'm really getting myself worn out by this issue. I don't want to get a National ID card, period... what's the worse thing that could happen? I like my state ID and military ID fine. Btw, the military ID is valid until I graduate from college (though my Dad gets to have it for life). Get state control back...

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Of course you are...

you silly c___s gave the guy a second term.

All this CNN manufactured fear and you let it pass you by.

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Burt Reynolds wrote: c___s

Carrots? :scratch:

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Burt Reynolds wrote: c___s

Cucumbers?

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Burt Reynolds wrote: c___s

Chaps!

:banghead:

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But really, I think he gave himself a second term, if you catch my drift.

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And your lousy president will force canadians to have passports to go in the US...

Let me tell you the northern states are not too happy with that one.

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Cunts have forced us to make biometric passports too, I have to listen to fckers whining eveyr night about prices, i just tell em straight that it's cos Tony's got George's cock in his mouth and we have to pay his bills.

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The only people to complain about this will be people with something to hide.

Cozzie, you're under arrest!

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Cheesy Burek wrote: The only people to complain about this will be people with something to hide.

Cozzie, you're under arrest!

who hasn't. :evil4:

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I still want some state control.

Now, that I think about it, I think that the ACLU website that my classmates used was nothing but a scare tactic...

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