The other one.........O/T

I prepare to be slagged off.

Start Of The Breakdown - Tears For Fears

That drumming is brilliant. Marty appreciates this one.

No laddy it wasn't 'That Cheeky Monkey' I think it was senor Trowell.

Still sticking with One to Another though, (not pissed so can't remember all the words to Come On Eileen) :D

Glad you liked your piccies, posted the proper ones today so you should have them Saturday at the latest chicken.

Howdy Major

Just looked at Marty's problem site and registered so I might start giving her/ him/ it shit on there.

Yeah - Major is talking sense this time - the mix of programmed / ethnic / rock drumming and percussion on Tears For Fears's first album and singles is actually very very good. Played by three guys in fact: Manny Elias, Chris Hughes (who used to play with Adam and the Ants) and Jerry Marotta.

I actually thought at the time I bought it - 1983, aged 18, that "The Hurting" was a very strong debut LP for any band....but for some reason it's now considered taboo to admit to ever liking Tears for Fears (bit like the OMD syndrome methinks)...

By the way Stevie, did I tell you that I sampled the shuffling jungle noises at the intro for the track "The Prisoner" (one of my faves on that album - others being "Memories Fade", "Watch Me Bleed" and "Pale Shelter") to use as part of the soundtrack for my short 10 minute film/animation I made when I was at Uni back then??

Originally posted by ShugZV Can't remember who mentioned it last night (think it was That Cheeky Monkey) What is your favourite song of all-time outwith JD/NO....I don't want long lists - rack yer brains and pick just 1 - I'll repeat that just in case I'm misunderstoodPick your 1 favourite song of all time. Feel free to give reasons for your choice - but DO NOT mention any other songs.After a few hours thought, here's mine;)Love Minus Zero (no limits) Bob DylanThat may come as a surprise, but after being brought up with Dylan on the record player constantly - it had to be this one, the lyrics to this are absolutely fantastic - espescially if yer with that certain someone;) And the jazzed up (ring any bells ) version on The Budokan album - is my favourite;)Look forward to hearing your choices

Shuggy, you know DAMN well that, for someone with such downright eclectic and esoteric tastes as me to list just ONE song I love more than others is just verging on the Impossible....

So I'm sorry, I will have to admit defeat on this one.

What song do you HATE more than any other one? See what I mean - impossible isn't it??? :D :D :D

OMD - Of 'How Bizarre' fame?

You jester!

Sorry Petal, forgot the ;)

I know you said only 1 song but I have to add For the Dead - Gene.

I had just started to look through my CD collection for inspiration when I remembered what my answer to the question is: it's "Wouldn't It Be Nice" by The Beach Boys.
Why? "Pet Sounds" is my favourite album and "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is my favourite track on the album.

If I read through the track listing of every CD in my collection I may find a single song on another album that I prefer but I really doubt it because I think "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is about as close as it is possible to get to musical and lyrical perfection. There's nothing in it that could be improved in any way, from the deceptive intro through the exquisite harmonies, the magical orchestration and the slowing-down build-up to the last verse to the lullaby singing in the fade out. Threaded into this are the most child-like but worldly-wise lyrics, sung with real emotion. Actually, it's not close to perfect - it is perfect.

Originally posted by Fingers I had just started to look through my CD collection for inspiration when I remembered what my answer to the question is: it's "Wouldn't It Be Nice" by The Beach Boys. Why? "Pet Sounds" is my favourite album and "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is my favourite track on the album.If I read through the track listing of every CD in my collection I may find a single song on another album that I prefer but I really doubt it because I think "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is about as close as it is possible to get to musical and lyrical perfection. There's nothing in it that could be improved in any way, from the deceptive intro through the exquisite harmonies, the magical orchestration and the slowing-down build-up to the last verse to the lullaby singing in the fade out. Threaded into this are the most child-like but worldly-wise lyrics, sung with real emotion. Actually, it's not close to perfect - it is perfect.

Pet Sounds. Ahhhh.... I know everybody goes on about it in those tedious lists, but it really is a fine record indeed - so concise too (just under 32 minutes). Believe me, some of those songs make me tearful cos the arrangements are so goddamned BEAUTIFUL. (it's not often an instrumental (track 6) can have that effect either, come to think of it!) Now, if you want to hear what a modern equivalent of this record sounds like, check out "Hawaii" by The High Llamas - truly, unutterably scrumptious....

Less Stress - Strange and Distant Music, yeah it's a bit of an obscure 'b' side,probably not many of you will know, if it wasn't obscure I'd probably like something else more.

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Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!! > Originally posted by Fingers> I had just started to look through my CD collection for inspiration when I remembered what my answer to the question is: it's "Wouldn't It Be Nice" by The Beach Boys. > Why? "Pet Sounds" is my favourite album and "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is my favourite track on the album.> > If I read through the track listing of every CD in my collection I may find a single song on another album that I prefer but I really doubt it because I think "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is about as close as it is possible to get to musical and lyrical perfection. There's nothing in it that could be improved in any way, from the deceptive intro through the exquisite harmonies, the magical orchestration and the slowing-down build-up to the last verse to the lullaby singing in the fade out. Threaded into this are the most child-like but worldly-wise lyrics, sung with real emotion. Actually, it's not close to perfect - it is perfect.

Pet Sounds. Ahhhh.... I know everybody goes on about it in those tedious lists, but it really is a fine record indeed - so concise too (just under 32 minutes). Believe me, some of those songs make me tearful cos the arrangements are so goddamned BEAUTIFUL. (it's not often an instrumental (track 6) can have that effect either, come to think of it!) Now, if you want to hear what a modern equivalent of this record sounds like, check out "Hawaii" by The High Llamas - truly, unutterably scrumptious....

Thanks for the recommendation Marty and here's one in return. "Let It Come Down" by Spiritualized is in the same league as "Pet Sounds" (which is the "is there any way this album could have been improved league?"). It's better than "Different Class", "Screamadelica" and even "OK Computer". If you need any more persuading tell me and I'll rave about it at greater length.

Actually this talk of one's favourite ever songs is a vexing thing because I have two separate perceptions of what constitutes my ultimate list of best ever songs: a list of songs that variously make me go "wow!" and jump up and down with glee, and a parallel list of songs that simply MOVE ME TO TEARS or induce misty-eyed recollections of earlier, happier and more innocent times. To this latter list I have to namecheck some songs that will ALWAYS live with me simply through the emotional effect/impact they have had on me from an early age.... (this is just a random selection - the list is immense)

The Shangri-Las - Past Present and Future Percy Faith - Theme From A Summer Place Dusty Springfield - Am I The Same Girl? Louis Armstrong - What A Wonderful World Love Unlimited - It May Be Winter Outside (But In My Heart It's Spring) Love Unlimited Orchestra - Love's Theme Minnie Riperton - Lovin' You Billy Paul - Me & Mrs Jones The O'Jays - Family Reunion

(notice how virtually all of them have great string arrangements - I'm a sucker for those - especially the intoxicating 60's ones, but even those PhillySoul and Barry White strings make my goosebumps go goosebumps - truly gorgeous!!.)

So, as you can see, I'm an old romantic at heart, aren't I?? :)

Originally posted by Fingers > Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!!> > > > Originally posted by Fingers> > I had just started to look through my CD collection for inspiration when I remembered what my answer to the question is: it's "Wouldn't It Be Nice" by The Beach Boys. > > Why? "Pet Sounds" is my favourite album and "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is my favourite track on the album.> > > > If I read through the track listing of every CD in my collection I may find a single song on another album that I prefer but I really doubt it because I think "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is about as close as it is possible to get to musical and lyrical perfection. There's nothing in it that could be improved in any way, from the deceptive intro through the exquisite harmonies, the magical orchestration and the slowing-down build-up to the last verse to the lullaby singing in the fade out. Threaded into this are the most child-like but worldly-wise lyrics, sung with real emotion. Actually, it's not close to perfect - it is perfect.>

Pet Sounds. Ahhhh.... I know everybody goes on about it in those tedious lists, but it really is a fine record indeed - so concise too (just under 32 minutes). Believe me, some of those songs make me tearful cos the arrangements are so goddamned BEAUTIFUL. (it's not often an instrumental (track 6) can have that effect either, come to think of it!) Now, if you want to hear what a modern equivalent of this record sounds like, check out "Hawaii" by The High Llamas - truly, unutterably scrumptious....

Thanks for the recommendation Marty and here's one in return. "Let It Come Down" by Spiritualized is in the same league as "Pet Sounds" (which is the "is there any way this album could have been improved league?"). It's better than "Different Class", "Screamadelica" and even "OK Computer". If you need any more persuading tell me and I'll rave about it at greater length.

Yep - got that too - Bought it when it was released as I like Spiritualized - and yes, what a truly UPlifting record that is! Especially the BeachBoys pastiche "Do It All Over Again" - their most blatanly pop moment. The only gripe I had with this otherwise very fine record is Jason's deadpan nasal vocals tend to grate after a while...they do the ambitiously grandiose arrangements no favours...but only a minor gripe nevertheless.....

Today, mine would be Estuary Bed by The Triffids. Great tune that alludes to the feelings that love and desire can create, gentle hints but no open declarations. David McComb was a genius. R.I.P.

Just noticed that the Shugster is still posting. Must've been one of those nights where sleep didn't seem necessary.

Walls by Icehouse.

This song was off the Flowers album ... Most of their other stuff was pretty lame compared to this first one. Anyway, this is a perfect example of driving guitar, early 80s synth rock where the guitar is powerful, but doesn't drown everything else out. Alot of people I've played this song to think that its dated pretty badly but I love it.

Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme by Simon and Garfunkel

Simple beautiful and also complex with Canticle sung as the harmony. Always been a big sucker for a bit of folk/roots music and this is everything it could be. Bad luck to Dylan, Tom Petty and Carole King who were all just pipped at the post

That's a hard question......can I phone a friend?

I suppose I'd have to say "Once In A Lifetime" by Talking Heads.

I love Once in a Lifetime to ... Reminds me of the movie Down and Out in Beverly Hills ...

Ummmm....probably Sasha's 'Expander' when I'm in dancey mood (most of the time), or Blur's 'Music is my Radar' if I'm not.

Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!! Actually this talk of one's favourite ever songs is a vexing thing because I have two separate perceptions of what constitutes my ultimate list of best ever songs: a list of songs that variously make me go "wow!" and jump up and down with glee, and a parallel list of songs that simply MOVE ME TO TEARS or induce misty-eyed recollections of earlier, happier and more innocent times. To this latter list I have to namecheck some songs that will ALWAYS live with me simply through the emotional effect/impact they have had on me from an early age.... (this is just a random selection - the list is immense)The Shangri-Las - Past Present and FuturePercy Faith - Theme From A Summer PlaceDusty Springfield - Am I The Same Girl?Louis Armstrong - What A Wonderful WorldLove Unlimited - It May Be Winter Outside (But In My Heart It's Spring)Love Unlimited Orchestra - Love's ThemeMinnie Riperton - Lovin' YouBilly Paul - Me & Mrs JonesThe O'Jays - Family Reunion(notice how virtually all of them have great string arrangements - I'm a sucker for those - especially the intoxicating 60's ones, but even those PhillySoul and Barry White strings make my goosebumps go goosebumps - truly gorgeous!!.)So, as you can see, I'm an old romantic at heart, aren't I?? :)

Excellent choices Marty :grin: I was weaned from an early age on all that Love Unlimited/Philly Sound stuff.....my ma still hasn't noticed that I've pinched all of her Barry White 7-inches

This is a bloody hard question for such an indecisive one as myself but today the answer is Raspberry Beret by Prince. Reminds me of summertime as a kid and always makes me smile when I hear it :D Love the lyrics....and the synchronised dancing in the video :)

Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!! > Originally posted by Fingers> > > > Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!!> > > > > > > Originally posted by Fingers> > > I had just started to look through my CD collection for inspiration when I remembered what my answer to the question is: it's "Wouldn't It Be Nice" by The Beach Boys. > > > Why? "Pet Sounds" is my favourite album and "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is my favourite track on the album.> > > > > > If I read through the track listing of every CD in my collection I may find a single song on another album that I prefer but I really doubt it because I think "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is about as close as it is possible to get to musical and lyrical perfection. There's nothing in it that could be improved in any way, from the deceptive intro through the exquisite harmonies, the magical orchestration and the slowing-down build-up to the last verse to the lullaby singing in the fade out. Threaded into this are the most child-like but worldly-wise lyrics, sung with real emotion. Actually, it's not close to perfect - it is perfect.> > >

Pet Sounds. Ahhhh.... I know everybody goes on about it in those tedious lists, but it really is a fine record indeed - so concise too (just under 32 minutes). Believe me, some of those songs make me tearful cos the arrangements are so goddamned BEAUTIFUL. (it's not often an instrumental (track 6) can have that effect either, come to think of it!) Now, if you want to hear what a modern equivalent of this record sounds like, check out "Hawaii" by The High Llamas - truly, unutterably scrumptious....

Thanks for the recommendation Marty and here's one in return. "Let It Come Down" by Spiritualized is in the same league as "Pet Sounds" (which is the "is there any way this album could have been improved league?"). It's better than "Different Class", "Screamadelica" and even "OK Computer". If you need any more persuading tell me and I'll rave about it at greater length.

Yep - got that too - Bought it when it was released as I like Spiritualized - and yes, what a truly UPlifting record that is! Especially the BeachBoys pastiche "Do It All Over Again" - their most blatanly pop moment. The only gripe I had with this otherwise very fine record is Jason's deadpan nasal vocals tend to grate after a while...they do the ambitiously grandiose arrangements no favours...but only a minor gripe nevertheless.....

Sorry Marty but I can't agree with you about Jason's vocals on "Let It Come Down". He may not the world's best singer but his vocals suit the songs perfectly. When the lyrics are scornful so is his vocal. When the lyrics are guilt-laden so is his vocal. When the lyrics are tender so is his vocal. Given a choice between a singer who can do anything with their voice but doesn't sound like they mean what they're singing and a singer who is, to be blunt, limited but sings with genuine feeling I would choose the latter every time.

If my argument hasn't convinced you just think about JD's "Love Will Tear Us Apart". Ian's vocals suit the sentiments of the lyrics perfectly and if he had sung the song in any other way it wouldn't have been as good as the version we know and love. The same can be said for Paul McCartney on The Beatles' "Yesterday", Michael Stipe on R.E.M.'s "Everybody Hurts", Keith Flint on The Prodigy's "Firestarter" (I know I've made one hell of a leap there but trust me) and pretty much every track on "Pet Sounds" or "Let It Come Down". When a singer gets a song (and it's usually one of their own songs) absolutely right there's no way any No.1 hit-seeking pop group, lazy bandwagon-chasing dance producer or contestant on Pap Idol can improve upon the original.

Shit this is a toughie. Booker T & the MGs "Time is Tight"