has mark e smith ever said anything positive about anyone?

(...who wasn't at that time a member of the fall)

Just idly wondering, apropos of nothing, other than I was listening to the 50,000 fall fans compilation, and read somewhere recently the great ray of sunshine himself expressing disgust at being lumped in with any other manchester band (seemed particularly horrified at being in any way associated with the buzzcocks). I remember his reaction to being asked if he'd influenced Sonic Youth ('a man could lose sleep over that, being held responsible for Sonic Youth'), not to mention his not exactly flattering descriptions of the ever-lengthening list of ex-Fall band members (something about a bunch of old men he was having to drag round with him? Or Marc Riley 'achieving his life long ambition to be a minor celebrity'). So as a sort of quiz challenge, is there any record of him saying something positive about anyone who wasn't at the time he said it a member of the Fall?

I mean he doesn't even seem to like his own fans very much.

(I'm sure if he cheered up and wrote some sunny happy songs he'd have more success in the hit parade)

only his local's landlady

Definitely not-ah!

Snorri xxx

404 error wrote: (...who wasn't at that time a member of the fall)

Just idly wondering, apropos of nothing, other than I was listening to the 50,000 fall fans compilation, and read somewhere recently the great ray of sunshine himself expressing disgust at being lumped in with any other manchester band (seemed particularly horrified at being in any way associated with the buzzcocks). I remember his reaction to being asked if he'd influenced Sonic Youth ('a man could lose sleep over that, being held responsible for Sonic Youth'), not to mention his not exactly flattering descriptions of the ever-lengthening list of ex-Fall band members (something about a bunch of old men he was having to drag round with him? Or Marc Riley 'achieving his life long ambition to be a minor celebrity'). So as a sort of quiz challenge, is there any record of him saying something positive about anyone who wasn't at the time he said it a member of the Fall?

I mean he doesn't even seem to like his own fans very much.

(I'm sure if he cheered up and wrote some sunny happy songs he'd have more success in the hit parade)

I've never heard him be anything other than grouchy about everything. Saw him in London about a month ago, getting off a bus and heading straight for the pub. Some things never change.

He described rap music as "the most literate music around at the minute" on a Snub TV interview. Word.

King John Honest John wrote: only his local's landlady

er NO, he's a gobshite, i used to serve him in the george hotel , prestwich, the nearest pub to his house, the guy's a COCK.

GlasVegas wrote: He described rap music as "the most literate music around at the minute" on a Snub TV interview. Word.

What about when he wasn't taking the piss.

Now there's an oxymoron:

Mark E Smith and positive.

I think he one said Morrissey was probably HIV positive. Does that count?

Sure he's said a couple of positive things, I was watching that BBC4 documentary yesterday and MES seemed to be impressed by the fact that Bo Diddley liked the band.

Oh, just remembered....the scan I did for MES's review of a Krokus album of a page from the old Flexipop magazine, which I sent to the "unofficial" Fall site. Not sure how much he's taking the piss, but he didn't trash whatever album he was assigned to review. Unlike the singer of Krokus trying to come to grips with Hex Enduction Hour!

MES vs. Krokus

MES did say positive about Gary Numan when The Fall were in South Chicago in 1992 and he went to a few clubs and all the black guys with machine guns worship Numan, Snoop Doggy Dogg sampled his stuff.

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: I think he one said Morrissey was probably HIV positive. Does that count?

Clever Positively it does count as a positive..Must do eh? ....if he said it

He has said many positive things but all with a negative twist ex. I use to really like (enter whatever) but now there shit sold out etc

Marks Greatest Interview Hits

This still cracks me up, though... Tottenham Hotspur postponed, West Ham 1h!

Ian Pillar wrote: He has said many positive things but all with a negative twist ex. I use to really like (enter whatever) but now there shit sold out etc

Marks Greatest Interview Hits

Following the chain of links from that link, just read the interview with Loaded (never read it 'cos I've never read that mag). It's hilarious in a ghastly car-crash kind of way. It's a good job one that technology means one can listen to someone's music without ever having to meet them, that's all I can say. Funny the bloke from Ash's accent turns more Northern Irish when he's being threatening - I suppose there's a heirarchy of menacing accents and NI presumably trumps Salford.

I know this is a very naive question, but has anyone ever responded to one of his tirades by thumping him? Is he good in a scrap?

This article from The Guardian regarding ex members of The Fall is fantastic.

Wouldn't you be grumpy if you'd aged as badly as he did? :\ohwell: