they were.
apart from 5 or six songs, they were shit. depressing as fuck too. casket music for the grave.
what's the big obsession?
not a patch on New Order!
loons. 
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oh shit...
controversial indeed...
I'm not sure why I keep my Joy Division cds...
they don't ever get played...
5 or 6 really shit-hot tunes,thats enough to make a good band for me..
Not a patch on New Order for me also,but that's just my opinion.
Ofcourse it can be argued they are one and the same band,and it has been umpteen times..I would'nt disagree with that logic either..neither would I disagree technically,they were two different bands
Talk about sitting on the fence
Tell me if I missed anything!
To conclude I would'nt say Joy division were shite,because for that to be true,all their songs would in turn,have to be shite..Word
Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:
Boatraceface wrote: Word
who the fuck are you, Vanilla Ice?
incorrectamundo
Im M.C. BRF...You see cos dats where de party at,an you find out if yoo do dat.
The Beatles were loads better.
Apart from the shit records they did, of course.
And the Frog Song. And Ebony and Ivory. Which were, to some degree, by the same band.
King John Honest John wrote:
only kidding!!!
they were well better than that shit New Order ever were.
TPK WTF?
OHHHH noooo they wer'nt!
It's the silly season....
I disagree, Joy Division were brilliant. Of course, I didn't like everything they did, but the ones I do like - I love.
King John Honest John wrote: they were.
apart from 5 or six songs, they were shit. depressing as fuck too. casket music for the grave.
what's the big obsession?
not a patch on New Order!
loons.
You fuckin' Class A Loon 
...And this from the guy that still listens to Killing Joke! 
Joy Division are the way the light and the truth!
...and they are as funny as fuck; and totally uplifting....
"Going up up up/Lets get the hell out of here..."
(Is this a wee bit of Scouse/Manc jealously I detect here!?)
"Joy Division were Shite" aye right! And the sun'll no rise the 'mora!
Now New Order, that's a different matter!
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King John Honest John wrote:
only kidding!!!
they were well better than that shit New Order ever were.
TPK WTF?
Too bloody late for outraged of Siberia Scotland.
Yeah a bloody Scouse loon!
And of course New Order are shit!
Missy Jem wrote: I disagree, Joy Division were brilliant. Of course, I didn't like everything they did, but the ones I do like - I love.
about five or six of them then.
Would Joy Division be your favorite band if they called it quits after Ian's death?
I wouldn't. But they are a good band, at least.
Indeed!
The Sub-Cultured Perfect Kisser*!* wrote: Would Joy Division be your favorite band if they called it quits after Ian's death?
I wouldn't. But they are a good band, at least.
Indeed!
YES!
[black]...and probably the VU.[/black]
Big Black wrote:
MIMX wrote:
...And this from the guy that still listens to Killing Joke!
It's way past time for a "Requiem" for Jaz etc ma man.
Bring back Eddie & The Hot Rods, The Adverts, and The Rezillos! :)
They make great reading though.Was reading the section in Morley's new book where Barney , Hooky and Steve talk about the recording of Closer and that period.Think this interview is in the sleeve notes for the recent reissue repackage but i couldn't be arsed to shell out for that.Great read though
The band is shite, but the history is very good
And I like to listen to Joy Division because it's "cool" in these days 
Just like Kajagoogoo.
Always prefered NO,but I do give JD a lot of hammer on the I-POD.Only dislike THE ETERNAL,now that is heavy going!!
Drumming is fucking ace. 
joy division were great. but nothing compared to New Order. but joy division were just not around long enough to make truly great music, whereas new order was able to evolve a bit and find their sound. JD may have been on the way there but we all know what happend
Disagree entirely Frank, JD achieved such a musical journey in the space of only three years, just listen to Gutz and then Decades. They got lazy as New Order, and never achieved the heights that they could have.
MIMX wrote:
Big Black wrote:
MIMX wrote:
...And this from the guy that still listens to Killing Joke!
It's way past time for a "Requiem" for Jaz etc ma man.
Bring back Eddie & The Hot Rods, The Adverts, and The Rezillos! :)
all three of them groups are on the cd i am playing now-best punk album in the world EVER!.
ACTUALLY IVE JUST NOTICED KILLING JOKE-EIGHTIES,IS ON IT AS WELL
King John Honest John wrote:
apart from 5 or six songs, they were shit. depressing as fuck too. casket music for the grave.
what's the big obsession?
oldmonkey wrote: Disagree entirely Frank, JD achieved such a musical journey in the space of only three years, just listen to Gutz and then Decades. They got lazy as New Order, and never achieved the heights that they could have.
But they did achieve the weights that they could have
banshee wrote:
MIMX wrote:
Big Black wrote:
MIMX wrote:
...And this from the guy that still listens to Killing Joke!
It's way past time for a "Requiem" for Jaz etc ma man.
Bring back Eddie & The Hot Rods, The Adverts, and The Rezillos! :)
all three of them groups are on the cd i am playing now-best punk album in the world EVER!.
ACTUALLY IVE JUST NOTICED KILLING JOKE-EIGHTIES,IS ON IT AS WELL
I was actually a Killing Joke fan, myself!
But to my mind The Ruts were/are the best punk band ever. "H-Eyes" was a classic, and "In a Rut" was the voice of a generation of disaffected youth.
But this... ...this... This will stand the test of time, it is a True Classic!
Course I also had a soft spot for SLF and S.O.D:
Couldn't find a video for "Liberator" with the perfect couplet "Our life belongs to you and me, not some banker/Not some American wanker!" 
