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Wouldn't qualify myself as a fan of the show, per se, but do find it immensely watchable. When there's nowt on regular TV it's nice to know it's replayable on Virginmedia.

I know there's certainly a few here though who are serious Who-heads.

Catherine Tate. She's just really shit in this, isn't she?

I mean, what is she supposed to be there for? Comedic value? Every line she says just sounds like one of her character creations. And she feels the need to shout everything of importance, rather than act.

This weekend's episode just showed up the series' current failings. No Dr Who, but a whole episode centred around Miss Tate instead. And it was dire. Not even Billy Piper could rescue it.

And, whilst we're on the subject, what the fcuk has Billy done to her face? She can't be hitting the botox already? Every line utterred came via her bottom lip. Everything from the bucked teeth up seemed to be frozen in stasis.

Still, least they had Alex Kingston in a coupla episodes. :food:

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She's annoyed me a WHOLE lot less that I thought she would. But I've not warmed to her at all.

I think Freema's been the best companion so far (not counting SJS and her dog in their brief appearance)

Last episode was fine by me, however, it's the sort of sideways story that's probably best treated as an audioplay or novel. I'm not sure it's right for a mainstream who watching audience, indeed your comments somewhat attest to this.

There seemed a deliberate strategy, the previous episode (which I seem to be the only bugger who liked), was 100% Doctor, and Doctor's witts.

Still fuck all that. It's 'stermininatin' time!!!!!!! AND, we get absolutely every bugger in it, Rose, Martha, Donna, SJS(+dog?),Jack....Even fuckin Missy Jem's in it.[1SPOILER]

The second season of Torchwood's been a billion times better than the first. But I must, as a total fangeek, confess that I'm REALLY looking forward to Missy Gwen Cooper meeting the Doc (assuming it happens).

[1] and something that looks an awful lot like a "man" in a Dalek base "wheelchair". I'd like to see the old cunt again, but only if they don't depend on him in every single story, cos it makes the daleks into a bunch of stooges instead of the total cunts they ought to be.

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Most of my enjoyment of Dr Who stems from the fact that it's something we can sit down and enjoy as a family.

I agree totally with Jarvo's comments about Tate - on more than one occasion I've added a 'BOVVERED!' to the end of her dialogue for her.

As for Billie, I think I read that she had problems 'remembering Rose's accent' which explains her facial contortions.

Still, as Steve says, the finale should be good - what with Dave Ross (creator of the Daleks, innit peeps) making a comeback...

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I heartily reccomend "I Dave Ross" by Big Finish Productions.

Basically a life story from his teens until the moment when the first Mk ONE travel machine has it's occupant installed.

Terry Malloy is so good, it's like he's channeling Michael Wisher in his darker moments.

Supposedly they've got Ben Kingsley? (made a good Hood in that rape of Thunderbirds the Jesuslanders perpetrated)

Having said that, I've read elsewhere that it's not "Dave" at all.

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Doctor? wrote: There seemed a deliberate strategy, the previous episode (which I seem to be the only bugger who liked), was 100% Doctor, and Doctor's witts.

Best episode this series for me. Never mind the low budget, that rarely stopped the old Who.

Tate was alright on Saturday but still not good enough as a drama actress. Bernard Cribbins outacted everyone else once again anyway.

Davros I'm looking forward to though. If they get his appearance as close to Genesis of the Daleks as possible everything should be alright.

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Bothered?

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Doctor? wrote: She's annoyed me a WHOLE lot less that I thought she would. But I've not warmed to her at all.

I think Freema's been the best companion so far (not counting SJS and her dog in their brief appearance)

Last episode was fine by me, however, it's the sort of sideways story that's probably best treated as an audioplay or novel. I'm not sure it's right for a mainstream who watching audience, indeed your comments somewhat attest to this.

There seemed a deliberate strategy, the previous episode (which I seem to be the only bugger who liked), was 100% Doctor, and Doctor's witts.

Still fuck all that. It's 'stermininatin' time!!!!!!! AND, we get absolutely every bugger in it, Rose, Martha, Donna, SJS(+dog?),Jack....Even fuckin Missy Jem's in it.[1SPOILER]

The second season of Torchwood's been a billion times better than the first. But I must, as a total fangeek, confess that I'm REALLY looking forward to Missy Gwen Cooper meeting the Doc (assuming it happens).

[1] and something that looks an awful lot like a "man" in a Dalek base "wheelchair". I'd like to see the old cunt again, but only if they don't depend on him in every single story, cos it makes the daleks into a bunch of stooges instead of the total cunts they ought to be.

Agreed on all counts.... should I be worried about that??

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Yes Mrs M, you should be cackin them really;)

The link OB put up is broke, so I looked on the tube. Didn't have the guts to watch a spoiler, but I did find this.

But strong with the one bollocked bavarian at the start, but then Davros does make adolf look like a gentle caring soul.

I love the "destiny never happened" attitude of this montage. Wisher and Malloy are the only Davrae (Davri?).

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I meant to say, the thing that REALLY annoys me about the current incarnation of the show is this Earth fixation. There's a whole fucking universe of time and space, and they keep basing stories on Earth. Yawn.

Want proper Dr....fly to planet, find problem, sort problem, leave....very often with Humans as the bad guys.

Only really been this season where they've had more than one off Earth ep.

Also, one to muse over......

One of the now deceased Cult of Skaro, was called Jast. Rose's ma was called..... Jacqualine Andrea Suzette Tyler

co-incidence?

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Doctor? wrote:

One of the now deceased Cult of Skaro, was called Jast.

They're not deceased, they're just in the void!:nuts: :p

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there's always thematic strands across the series and this time the doctor has said on more than one occasion "nobody dies" and he's pulled characters back from being dead: his daughter, his wife(?) and so, I think that al's wish will be coming true inverting that strand he's going to find that he can't save everyone and who's going to be the one to die most noble-y?

new companion candidates please.... carey mulligan (sally sparrow) for me

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yeah, and what ish up with billie'sh teeth? the whole family thought she had a falshe shet in - I don't remember her having a shpeech impediment before

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Facsimile wrote: he's pulled characters back from being dead: his daughter, his wife(?)

Did you know Tennant's knocking off 'his daughter' in 'real-life'?!

And that she actually happens to be the 'real-life' daughter of a former doctor, Peter Davison!

And what the fcuk have I started with this thread! :lol:

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El Jarvo wrote: And what the fcuk have I started with this thread! :lol:

:food:

Although even her guesting in Dr Who couldn't make me arsed enough to actually watch it :shrug:

And I still can't :laugh:

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So, if they have a child, then the kid will grow up knowing his dad is the Doctor, his mum is the Doctor’s daughter, his grandfather was also the Doctor and his grandmother, Sandra Dickinson, was Trillian.

I think the resulting child might just like sci-fi... :lol:

:smoking:

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Peter Davidson married trillian?

(Oh well, I suppose Romana did marry Richard Dawkins)

I can't figure out why his daughter would regenerate, as far as has been mentioned in the series, books and plays, regeneration is not soley a genetic thing, but dependent upon large amounts of Artron energy, and she never even entered the TARDIS.

Pretty obvious set up for a spinoff wasn't it, the end of that episode. The Beeb need to calm down on the milking of Dr Who! Torchwood is good, but it having it's own analysis show (and TWO for Dr Who), is just fucking annoying. It would be less so if they weren't shown right after the show itself. Looks like The Apprentice has been blighted with this too.

Sally Sparrow? The chick from Blink? I liked her, she'd defo do.

There is something more going on with Donna, from things the Dr says, she's "important". I would not be surprised if she "dies" by being the actual solution to a problem, as if she were destined for it. I'd also not be surprised if she turns out to be a Dalek creation.

Isn't Martha meant to be back though? Not only was she the least annoying in the show's return, she beats every assistant (barring Ace...who I hated at the time, but, particularly through audioplays, I have come to adore), since Romana V2.0 stopped off in E-space to help the Tharills.

Still the highlight of the entire "new" who, HAS to be that septic givin his best Hollywood sepotard cheese speech to a Dalek.

"so, what do you say, Dalek?"

ROFLMFAO

Funny enough, after reading Al's post, I watched last week's again, and she BOVVERED me a great deal, I think that being reminded that she was in fact Catherine, not all THAT funny Tate coloured my view. She does do a fucking fabulous Belfast accent though, which seems to be a very hard one for Engerlanders to get right.

TWATTO: Sek mutated and got Exterminated, Jast and Thay also got the chop, leaving only Karn, who fucked off rather than accept the Dr's help.

I would not be surprised if it was he who looked "daddy" up. He would then use him to build a new Dalek race, and then exterminate him again, not really all THAT bright for an evil genius ;)

BTW, in that "I, Davros", he quotes a line in the ancient Dal[1] tounge which is something like (only heard, not read) "an lek uud cun da lek", which he translates as "and men shall become supermen", so Dalek means "superman", or more truthfully "Ubermensch".

[1] In the original "the daleks" the Thaals refer to a war between they and "the dal", who hid in their city and built suits of battle armour to live in, this is also mentioned in early comic strips. They rationalise this in cannon, by saying that Genesis is the truth, and that the Thaals were relying on a garbled verbal history. In I,Davros, it is explained that there were several races on Skaro, much like current Earth, and that all are "now" gone save the Kaled and Thaals. The Dal were one of the first to become extinct.

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Sorry about the duff link Steve, it was working - and was just a very quick clip from last Saturday's Confidential showing a very shadowy Dave with Russell T Davis getting all gushy saying how "brilliant" it was to have an arch-enemy returning.

Anyway. it's old news now - BBC1 are showing a trailer now where you see a hand and hear his voice. It's also online HERE if you haven't seen it.

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WOOOHOOOO!!!!!!

Cheers

(I don't really watch TV in between Dr and F1, so never see trailers).

Feel bad for watching it, I've religously avoided all spoliers for the entire new run of the show, even avoided the leak of "Rose" like it was a virus.

Why do people compain that Iplayer only works in IE in Windows? I'm watching using Opera in Linux. Pussies!

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The general Whovian consensus seems to be 'she's nowhere near as bad as expected, in fact she's actually quite refreshing'.

Freema was a major let down; little more than a Billie clone wrapped in leather jackets that left everything to the imagination!

:laugh:

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El Jarvo wrote:

Facsimile wrote: he's pulled characters back from being dead: his daughter, his wife(?)

And that she actually happens to be the 'real-life' daughter of a former doctor, Peter Davison!

'midnight' was directed by alice troughton (daughter-in-law of the second doctor) and featured david troughton (her hubby, and paddy's son).

they're obviously giving little nods to the heritage.

i thought i was going to loathe catherine tate but actually i quite like her. i was getting sick - sick i tell you - of those simpering girlies gazing up at DT with doe eyes. he's MINE. well, mine and mrs m's. we're going to rotate him with the master. rrrrrrrrr.

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DigitalWaters wrote: The general Whovian consensus seems to be 'she's nowhere near as bad as expected, in fact she's actually quite refreshing'.

Freema was a major let down; little more than a Billie clone wrapped in leather jackets that left everything to the imagination!

:laugh:

See, I always preferred companions who were more on the Dr's wavelength, rather than the stupid apes. SO Rose and Donna are utterly inferior to Martha to me. And they're all fucktards measured against Romana.

Errrrrm Miss Nora.....there is only one true Master(and you will obey him), and Roger Delgado's been worm food for 30 years :(

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ooooooh just the thought of the master (master no six/mister saxon - didya like that, cambo?) doing his 'you WILL obey me' line is really very knee-weakening indeed...

come on, you know that despite (because of?) the hamminess JS is worthy of the title, if only for the accurate usage of 'decimate'.

or did all the homoeroticism make you feel uncomfortable about your sexuality? HMMM?

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DigitalWaters wrote: The general Whovian consensus seems to be 'she's nowhere near as bad as expected, in fact she's actually quite refreshing'.

Freema was a major let down; little more than a Billie clone wrapped in leather jackets that left everything to the imagination!

She can't act though. I mean, I know it's not s'posed to be hi-brow but she is just a tad trite, isn't she? Calling her wooden would be offensive to trees.

Ditto that Freema berd too.

And Billy was pushing it.

Still, s'pose they're all better than that Torchwood lot. And nowhere near as hi-camp!

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Hav'nt seen any of them from this series yet what with one thing and another..So downloaded episodes 1-10 from piratebay.

So I plan to don my Tardis underpants and vest set,cabin-up,and have a Whoathon with that lot sometime soon.Tonight maybe.I'm a fan.

I bet Cathrine Tate gets right on my tits,in this mind. Also downloaded The Five Doctors..Which I will have seen in the dim and distant past,most prob.

Top 5 Whomeisters

1 Tennent 2 Macoy 3 Ecclestone

I'm right off Tom Baker,yet he was THEE Doctor non parallel when was a nipper..Strangely,I view him as a bit of a wanker when seeing those episodes now.

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bloodynora wrote:

El Jarvo wrote:

Facsimile wrote: he's pulled characters back from being dead: his daughter, his wife(?)

And that she actually happens to be the 'real-life' daughter of a former doctor, Peter Davison!

'midnight' was directed by alice troughton (daughter-in-law of the second doctor) and featured david troughton (her hubby, and paddy's son).

they're obviously giving little nods to the heritage.

i thought i was going to loathe catherine tate but actually i quite like her. i was getting sick - sick i tell you - of those simpering girlies gazing up at DT with doe eyes. he's MINE. well, mine and mrs m's. we're going to rotate him with the master. rrrrrrrrr.

Dear gods woman... you have a wicked wicked mind.. I love it ;) can I have the Master first pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese

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oh go on then. and just when i'd got all swoony over his masterful ways and decided you could have the doctor to yourself.

(cue dreadful puns on laser/sonic screwdrivers...)

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So we're defo not talking about Derek Jacobi then, OK ;) (JS was a great Master, but as Michael Wisher is Davros, so the one true master IS Roger D)

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bloodynora wrote: oh go on then. and just when i'd got all swoony over his masterful ways and decided you could have the doctor to yourself.

(cue dreadful puns on laser/sonic screwdrivers...)

Go on then.. if you want him you have him.... I can settle with the doctor, I suppose..... I did quite like the masters ring tho... (no pun intended ;) )

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lordy, saturday's ep was a bit good, wasn't it?!

and dempsey was in it! and dickie dawkins!

loved rose doing her nose-out-of-joint bit. nice to see a snatch of the old rose tyler (oo-er) instead of the ripley-esque character all these ex-companions seem to turn into...

so who's the most faithful among them then? and is our dave's time really up?

(oooh, and was there any in-joke significance of SJS's reg, cambo? a little linger on that close up, i thought. like a big geek.)

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