Karen Matthews
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stupid bitch deserves to rot in jail for the rest if her life, doing this to her OWN CHILD!!!!
The incident where she was overheard talking about how she'd like to bed one of the coppers working on the daughter's abduction case was a nice touch too 
especially as she knew full well where her daughter was at the time.
What a lovely choice of partner to and bring her kids into contact with as well... a guy sent down for dubious images of kids on his hard drive.
Lovely people.
Absolutely not the very worst chav scum imaginable...
Yeah!!! A new Myra Hindley!!! Just what the doctor ordered!!!!
What the fuck is your problem?? I used to pay good money for Mazzies when I was in my teens, and this woman gave 'em to her kid FOR FREE!!!!!!!!
I wish she was my mum.
(That's the mazzies kicking in, natch.)
Probably the best advertisment possible for the advantages of an authorised breeding programme, in all seriousness.
PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote:
I wish she was my mum.
Benn trying to keep it from you for years Martin, but... she is!
So how long before this thread descends into an argument about the McCanns, like the last one did?
Vag Jones wrote: Probably the best advertisment possible for the advantages of an authorised breeding programme, in all seriousness.
Absolutely!
Kath wrote:
Vag Jones wrote: Probably the best advertisment possible for the advantages of an authorised breeding programme, in all seriousness.
Absolutely!
Enlighten us all then, how does your proposed Authorised Breeding Programme work?
Oh a few basic questions gets you a breeding license......
1.Should you give your kid green jellies? 2.Is it OK to go out with a convicted paedo when you have little kids? 3. Is faking your child's abcudtion in order to make money out of the newspapers and the reward money (instead of getting a job), a good thing or a bad thing.
Nothing major needed, just the basics.
Anyone care to place any bets on just which kind of fucked up the little one is heading for?
Uncle Liam wrote:
Kath wrote:
Vag Jones wrote: Probably the best advertisment possible for the advantages of an authorised breeding programme, in all seriousness.
Absolutely!
Enlighten us all then, how does your proposed Authorised Breeding Programme work?
After weeks of paperwork and months of processing time, you take yer wife down to the ABP, take a bunch of blood tests and then put in thier code and you yours which unlocks the digital chastity hymen and you bang her in specially sterile rooms, while being watched by at least three insemination specialists that give you pointers all along the way....
...until then only bum sex
Uncle Liam wrote:
PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote:
I wish she was my mum.
Benn trying to keep it from you for years Martin, but... she is!
He certainly inherited her looks... :D
Apparently this woman had had 7 children with 5 men. Looks really are a very good indicator of a persons genetic quality. Matthews hyper-aged yet infantile features are a strong indicator of how 'inferior' that family is. If you are of low intellect or dont have the ability to put in parental investment, nature always favours you to become more promiscous with the objective of leaving more surviving offspring
Gazman wrote:
Doctor? wrote: green jellies
Yellow ones were better
Don't think I've had the pleasure.
Coupla green ones can make a big oaf like me a bit, errrrm fuckered, imagine the effects on a slip of a wean. (not sayin it was greens they were giving her, logically, a bunch of cunts like that would sell the greens).
See wasshisnametoday......How the fuck can anyone be, in one paragraph so right about biology, and so daft as to believe in Craneology or fuckin frenology or whatever the "science" of headshape vs traits is called.
Apparently, she was the subject of a psychological report in 2003 - which said she wasn't able to put the needs of her children above her own - NO REALLY? Despite the fact two of her children were (at some time) on the Child Protection Register - the Social Services reduced their involvement.
Many of the 'extended' family were well known to various authorities, and a neighbour had contacted Social Services on various occasions, voicing her concerns about the children, so why did they withdraw any further contact? Simply doesn't add up.
I am not necessarily 'blaming' them; ultimately everyone is responsible for their own actions, but it does make you wonder, and very angry.
I hope she gets what she so justly deserves.
Social Services Wankers
Rest assured Karen Matthew will get a long sentence, I'm guessing about 200 hours community service, that will teach her.
Mind you it is more important to fine people for over filling thier dustbins than lock this bastards up
The thing that makes me, and no doubt all of you, fume is that because the crime is against a child she will get a new ID and location all at tax payers expense....bravo for (notsogreatanymore)Britain.......
BTW....did you see the flat where she was being hidden.....a 3 bed flat for a single scumbag...how does that work????? 
.......i'm planning my emigration as we speak........
Alf wrote: The thing that makes me, and no doubt all of you, fume is that because the crime is against a child she will get a new ID and location all at tax payers expense....bravo for (notsogreatanymore)Britain.......
BTW....did you see the flat where she was being hidden.....a 3 bed flat for a single scumbag...how does that work?????
I totally agree. Just like Maxine Carr was given a job at a library on Isle of Wight. Everyone who worked there knew who was but could nothing about it. Imagine that, a library, where kids go. Totally sick. This government is so soft. Somethings in America are spot on. Death row and chain gangs being 2 of them.
NO Regret wrote:
Alf wrote: The thing that makes me, and no doubt all of you, fume is that because the crime is against a child she will get a new ID and location all at tax payers expense....bravo for (notsogreatanymore)Britain.......
BTW....did you see the flat where she was being hidden.....a 3 bed flat for a single scumbag...how does that work?????
I totally agree. Just like Maxine Carr was given a job at a library on Isle of Wight. Everyone who worked there knew who was but could nothing about it. Imagine that, a library, where kids go. Totally sick. This government is so soft. Somethings in America are spot on. Death row and chain gangs being 2 of them.
The death row one i'm unsure about.......watched '28 days in may' at school and it's stuck with me that one mistake is too many...chain gangs are cool though.......singin' songs in the sun an' all that?
Alf wrote:
NO Regret wrote:
Alf wrote: The thing that makes me, and no doubt all of you, fume is that because the crime is against a child she will get a new ID and location all at tax payers expense....bravo for (notsogreatanymore)Britain.......
BTW....did you see the flat where she was being hidden.....a 3 bed flat for a single scumbag...how does that work?????
I totally agree. Just like Maxine Carr was given a job at a library on Isle of Wight. Everyone who worked there knew who was but could nothing about it. Imagine that, a library, where kids go. Totally sick. This government is so soft. Somethings in America are spot on. Death row and chain gangs being 2 of them.
The death row one i'm unsure about.......watched '28 days in may' at school and it's stuck with me that one mistake is too many...chain gangs are cool though.......singin' songs in the sun an' all that?
I respect your opinion but I just feel there are some cases where the death penalty is warranted. The chain gangs in America seem to be having the desired affect. Prisoners have discipline and the no nonsense regime makes some realise they dont want to be a criminal for life and that they have a choice.
Its worth a shot. Our system is failing miserably.
They're only soft on the real twats though. While cunts like this are getting away with all sorts, people are being arrested for wearing T-shirts with optimus prime on them, and we have the fuckin gestapo raiding the commons and an insane woman who wants all your kids DNA entered on a database she can sell to paedos......and then when they grow up, the police, instead of doing any police work, can arrest them because their DNA was found somewhere where something bad happened,
Howling mental.
A real-life, benefit-cheating Vicky Pollard. Just what we need during a recession.
I saw the chap heading the investigation describe her as "pure evil" in his victory speech yesterday.
Good job someone working for the public good has got a level head, eh?
Alf wrote: The thing that makes me, and no doubt all of you, fume is that because the crime is against a child she will get a new ID and location all at tax payers expense....bravo for (notsogreatanymore)Britain.......
BTW....did you see the flat where she was being hidden.....a 3 bed flat for a single scumbag...how does that work?????
Yes, I saw that. I don't know why I continue to be surprised really......
Proof of deevolution within society... We save people that would otherwise have been killed off by natural selection and allow them to procreate and shoot out little buggers all over the place...
Was it Sweden that had compulsary sterilization for certain groups within society or did I dream that one......not saying I'm for or against but surely it should be worth 'debating'......the way this country is going its gonna implode within 20 years ......what with the elf n safety, political correctness, human rights, too lean sentancing......hang on a minute ....whats the connection there???????.....oh, yeah...solicitors...lawyers......and another thing thats got me goat while i'm at it ......no fucker wants to manufacture anything in this country any more...it used to be king of manufacturing......but now theres no help or fuck all......oh........and whilst i'm at it i've got the masters for the x-factor winners song at work in this week..........Halleleuja (sp).....by Leanard Cohen......can't see Alex, the little kid or the group singing that on totps on xmas day so it looks like the local lass.....go Di....... 
Donovan's had his jaw broken.
Isn't it awful that we live in such a society where people think it is right to take the law into their own hands.......... especially when they forgot the legs, arms etc!
Better luck next time.
Some idiot wrote into the Metro (free london paper) and defended Karen Matthews by saying she wasnt pure evil, she was only selfish, greedy and untrustworthy (that sounds like a shop lifter to me and not someone who drugged their daughter for 2 years fed her crisps for dinner and makes her disappear). apparently pure evil only relates to murderers, rapists and peodo's.
it got my goat so much i texted back. you can see it on page 38 of todays Metro
NO Regret wrote: Some idiot wrote into the Metro (free london paper) and defended Karen Matthews by saying she wasnt pure evil, she was only selfish, greedy and untrustworthy (that sounds like a shop lifter to me and not someone who drugged their daughter for 2 years fed her crisps for dinner and makes her disappear). apparently pure evil only relates to murderers, rapists and peodo's.
it got my goat so much i texted back. you can see it on page 38 of todays Metro
I dont know what you expect? Within a certain element of the working class you will always have dysfuctional retards. Very rarely do these sorts of incidents come out of the blue its sort of cumulative. The Matthews' clan are better off as a genetic cul-de-sac, this events are merely a modern twist on Darwinism.
The Daily Star ran a nasty little piece today celebrating the 'fact' that there's a price of ten fags on Matthews' head. She needs constant protection, wears dark glasses to hide a black eye and has been given the nickname 'turkey' because she'll be gone by Boxing Day.
How proud we should all feel to live in a country that treats the mentally ill in this way.
Diamond 383 wrote: The Daily Star ran a nasty little piece today celebrating the 'fact' that there's a price of ten fags on Matthews' head. She needs constant protection, wears dark glasses to hide a black eye and has been given the nickname 'turkey' because she'll be gone by Boxing Day.
How proud we should all feel to live in a country that treats the mentally ill in this way.
Mentally ill? I must have missed something here. Has she been sectioned, has she fu*k. She knew exactly what she was doing. Its the rest of her family I feel for (although unsurprisingly her own mother has disowned her).
Diamond 383 wrote: The Daily Star ran a nasty little piece today celebrating the 'fact' that there's a price of ten fags on Matthews' head. She needs constant protection, wears dark glasses to hide a black eye and has been given the nickname 'turkey' because she'll be gone by Boxing Day.
How proud we should all feel to live in a country that treats the mentally ill in this way.
I'm not sure she's mentally ill but she's definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer at any rate. Well anyone who realistically tries to pull off what she tried to has to be a bit of a low watt bulb.
As Col said, from some of the comments in the low rent tabloid rags and even some of the comments on here you are sometimes left wondering what's more depressing, the fact she did that to her own daughter or the reaction it brings out in ordinary members of the public.
Of course it was abhorrent (duh) but for fudge's sake... some people go a bit far with this sort of mock-outrage thing don't they? Off with their heads? It's not the 17th century anymore, we're meant to be a slightly more enlightened. Complete chav scum she may be but the lynch mob mentality's a bit of a cliche isn't it? Now, have we all remembered our pitchforks and burning torches?
I think most of the time people just like being outraged for the sake of being outraged
Ally wrote:
Diamond 383 wrote: The Daily Star ran a nasty little piece today celebrating the 'fact' that there's a price of ten fags on Matthews' head. She needs constant protection, wears dark glasses to hide a black eye and has been given the nickname 'turkey' because she'll be gone by Boxing Day.
How proud we should all feel to live in a country that treats the mentally ill in this way.
I'm not sure she's mentally ill but she's definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer at any rate. Well anyone who realistically tries to pull off what she tried to has to be a bit of a low watt bulb.
As Col said, from some of the comments in the low rent tabloid rags and even some of the comments on here you are sometimes left wondering what's more depressing, the fact she did that to her own daughter or the reaction it brings out in ordinary members of the public.
Of course it was abhorrent (duh) but for fudge's sake... some people go a bit far with this sort of mock-outrage thing don't they? Off with their heads? It's not the 17th century anymore, we're meant to be a slightly more enlightened. Complete chav scum she may be but the lynch mob mentality's a bit of a cliche isn't it? Now, have we all remembered our pitchforks and burning torches?
I think most of the time people just like being outraged for the sake of being outraged
Agree, its like the 'Diana effect' in a way.
Alf wrote:
Ally wrote:
Diamond 383 wrote: The Daily Star ran a nasty little piece today celebrating the 'fact' that there's a price of ten fags on Matthews' head. She needs constant protection, wears dark glasses to hide a black eye and has been given the nickname 'turkey' because she'll be gone by Boxing Day.
How proud we should all feel to live in a country that treats the mentally ill in this way.
I'm not sure she's mentally ill but she's definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer at any rate. Well anyone who realistically tries to pull off what she tried to has to be a bit of a low watt bulb.
As Col said, from some of the comments in the low rent tabloid rags and even some of the comments on here you are sometimes left wondering what's more depressing, the fact she did that to her own daughter or the reaction it brings out in ordinary members of the public.
Of course it was abhorrent (duh) but for fudge's sake... some people go a bit far with this sort of mock-outrage thing don't they? Off with their heads? It's not the 17th century anymore, we're meant to be a slightly more enlightened. Complete chav scum she may be but the lynch mob mentality's a bit of a cliche isn't it? Now, have we all remembered our pitchforks and burning torches?
I think most of the time people just like being outraged for the sake of being outraged
Agree, its like the 'Diana effect' in a way.
Eh? So for now she is satan, but if she gets turned into road pizza, they'll all love her and elton will make a pile of cash?
Mentally ill? Stupidity is not a recognised medical condition, nor is being chav scum.....I REALLY wish they were....we could take kids away from really REALLY dense parents and give them a half decent chance in life.....but sadly not. Actually.....here's a thought...if being a total fucling idiot, or just being human filth WERE recognised medical conditions....it'd make the benefits system a whole lot more entertaining.
I think people should be worrying less about that old hag, who's had her chance ahd fucked it....and more about how to somehow try to give the wee'un some kind of a chance at a normal life. Hopefully she'll do well, get a nice job and have some kids who'll she will love and care for......more likely she'll end up (read as "be steered into") a carreer as a tabloid story, doing big brother and drugs by the ton.
Alf wrote: Agree, its like the 'Diana effect' in a way.
Yup, it's pathetic; any old bandwagon passing through get on board.
I read somewhere recently (one of Shug's threads I think) that Frankie Boyle made some new Diana jokes and they didn't go down too well at some of his gigs in specific parts of the UK. I mean, what the fuck? Are some people in this country really this borderline retarded? Ask a silly question I know.
"How dare you make jokes about our dearly departed Queen of Hearts (or that useless, pissed up, shagged senseless, rather dim sloaney bitch we never knew or even met) you bad Scotch man".
Give me a break, those people should be kept away from sharp implements themselves.
The tabloid media are in the middle of it all as the circus masters whipping up a frenzy. A provocative "The Sun Says" column here or the odd "SIGN THE STAR'S PETITION" there.
It baffles me how on earth they expected to get away with it.
Ironically, I did read that they were inspired by the piles of cash that were being raised by the McCann fund.
Maybe she's not mentally ill, but the pair of them have got some deep-set problems. I find this type of media witch hunt and encouraging vigilantism in the newspapers very worrying, whoever it's directed towards.
What were you doing reading the Daily Star anyway
Don't tell me it has a cracking arts section? :p
Ally wrote: What were you doing reading the Daily Star anyway
Don't tell me it has a cracking arts section? :p
Yeah..tits on page 3...5...7...9.
They leave a copy on the counter of the butty van I go to most days. I normally just look at the sport.
Diamond 383 wrote: I normally just look at the sport.
The Daily Sport?
To be fair,and I tend to glance all the papers that get passed around at work.The Sunday Star is amongst the best for sport.
I'll not comment on Karen Matthews,other than suffice to say...Fuck mental illness,she betrayed her own kid.That makes her,base human scum.
Ally wrote:
Diamond 383 wrote: The Daily Star ran a nasty little piece today celebrating the 'fact' that there's a price of ten fags on Matthews' head. She needs constant protection, wears dark glasses to hide a black eye and has been given the nickname 'turkey' because she'll be gone by Boxing Day.
How proud we should all feel to live in a country that treats the mentally ill in this way.
I'm not sure she's mentally ill but she's definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer at any rate. Well anyone who realistically tries to pull off what she tried to has to be a bit of a low watt bulb.
As Col said, from some of the comments in the low rent tabloid rags and even some of the comments on here you are sometimes left wondering what's more depressing, the fact she did that to her own daughter or the reaction it brings out in ordinary members of the public.
Of course it was abhorrent (duh) but for fudge's sake... some people go a bit far with this sort of mock-outrage thing don't they? Off with their heads? It's not the 17th century anymore, we're meant to be a slightly more enlightened. Complete chav scum she may be but the lynch mob mentality's a bit of a cliche isn't it? Now, have we all remembered our pitchforks and burning torches?
I think most of the time people just like being outraged for the sake of being outraged
What they just said.
Fucking depresses me some of the shite that gets posted on this board. As I've said before it could easily be mistaken for a Daily Mail forum sometimes.
Seriously, what kind of reaction do you think you would get in a case like this?
I couldn't give a flying saucer if she's mentally ill or not - she is a complete.....I can't even think of a word that describes that excuse of a woman/mother.
No,its not pleasant, nor palatable, but come on, how can you contemplate feeling sorry for this woman because of press comments? You are what you are - OK, a lot of that 'make up' can be genetic, and more likely down to life 'experiences'.
Ultimately,as an adult, you make a choice. She did.
I hope she rots in hell.
I hope her kids don't have to live in it again and they dont have that same 'tell me about your childhood' shit routine.
Oh, and I only get enraged when something happens that could have been prevented!
No Kath, apparently thinking she is a bad person makes you a Dail Fail reading retard.
What you're meant to think is "poor woman, let's give her lots of money and a nice holiday and then she wont do anything bad to little Shannon (who should stay with her) ever again" Or something.
I cannot believe people here are saying she's not in anyway a nasty piece of work. I guess the way she treated her kid seems normal to them, fuck help THEIR kids is all I can say.
Obviously, as had been said, the idea of public lynchings and mob justice is revolting, but that IS the Dail Fail, not what anyone here has said. She should be locked up for a very long time, if not forever and if she is let out she should be banned from evert breeding again. Shannon should go to the best foster home they can find for her, where someone will love her.
If nobody's gonna bother reading the substance of Ally's comments, if all I can expect is the reactionary bollocks spouted by the last two posters who COMPLETELY MISS THE FUCKING POINT then I really cannae be bothered getting involved in this.
Oh, and is not time for someone to trot out the 'people who dont have kids of their own don't understand a parents anger' routine yet?
GlasVegas wrote:
If nobody's gonna bother reading the substance of Ally's comments, if all I can expect is the reactionary bollocks spouted by the last two posters who COMPLETELY MISS THE FUCKING POINT then I really cannae be bothered getting involved in this.
Oh, and is not time for someone to trot out the 'people who dont have kids of their own don't understand a parents anger' routine yet?
I believe the points were that she's not actually evil scum, just a poor sick woman. Which I vehemently disagree with.
And that the media whipping up a torch and pitchfork brigade is all too easy as well as very very wrong....which I heartily concur with.
The point I've raised two or three times, that nobody seems mildly interested in is what the hell happens to this wee girl's life now. This in may ways tallies with what you and others have said.....people are far more interested in seeing mum's blood publicly spilled than they are in helping the victim in all of this.
Mind you, this is Whacky Jacqui's Britain, where setting fire to a car makes it a car bomb and MP's are raided by armed anti-terrorist police for telling tales. Perhaps a database would fix all of this.
Erm, wasn't somebody recommending that she gets the death penalty (or haven't I read all 3 pages of this thread correctly)??
Or that she should be burnt?
I don't think the media need to whip anybody up into a frenzy; the facts speak for themselves.
A few clever words and a couple of sociology debates don't really work for me.
The fact she is guilty is just that, a fact.
Now, did I mention that I have children? 
Nick King wrote: Erm, wasn't somebody recommending that she gets the death penalty (or haven't I read all 3 pages of this thread correctly)??
Or that she should be burnt?
No, community service should suffice.
Doctor? wrote: Shannon should go to the best foster home they can find for her, where someone will love her.
Without reading the rest of the thread after this comment,which I will do,but I see that as the best thing that could happen for Shannon.Some people are just dogshit,and it's clear as a parent,Karen Matthews is dogshit,whatever any paper says... Harsh but true.Get this kid away from it. Damage limitation seems a hard line,when talking about ripping a child from it's mother,but that seems to be what is left here,with the kid in mind.. Even when trying to be as liberal as possible,for me,this mother has shit it... Get this kid out of there,and in a decent environment. The whole story beggers belief.The kid deserves better,and that should be the only concern now,for me...
It's the worst form of betrayal. How can anyone argue with that? Karen Matthews sold her own daughter out,I can't even comprehend that,nevermind sympathise with the cunt.End of.
The only saving grace is that Shannon will be taken care of now,hopefully...She'll be hurt and have to go through a terrible transition,but some fucker will love her at least.Nuff said.
Fuck her cunt mother,who gives a fuck? Maybe Shannon does. She will infact,and that's the only heartbreaking part.. A terrible ordeal the kid will have to live with.
Kath wrote:
Nick King wrote: Erm, wasn't somebody recommending that she gets the death penalty (or haven't I read all 3 pages of this thread correctly)??
Or that she should be burnt?
No, community service should suffice.
I personally think all this media attention is precisely what she's been craving for years. Deprive her of it, sweep her under the carpet. 'Nuff said. Let's not hear her name again. Concentrate on giving the child a new life, somewhere else, and don't report on that either.
Kath wrote:
Nick King wrote: Erm, wasn't somebody recommending that she gets the death penalty (or haven't I read all 3 pages of this thread correctly)??
Or that she should be burnt?
No, community service should suffice.
In a nursery.
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Kath wrote:
Nick King wrote: Erm, wasn't somebody recommending that she gets the death penalty (or haven't I read all 3 pages of this thread correctly)??
Or that she should be burnt?
No, community service should suffice.
I personally think all this media attention is precisely what she's been craving for years. Deprive her of it, sweep her under the carpet. 'Nuff said. Let's not hear her name again. Concentrate on giving the child a new life, somewhere else, and don't report on that either.
Yeah the press should volunteer to abstain from reporting on her. Of course, they are money grabbing cunts and their readers are at best voyeurs and at worst, car-crash watchers.....so it'll never happen.
Just thinking....the last time he papers whipped up a frenzy was over kiddie fiddlers and the torch and pitchfork mob burned out.........a paediatrician! Impressive in itself, but all the more so since it requires them not only to be unable to read, but to believe that kiddie fiddlers hang signs outside.
Still beats NI loyalist mobs, who attempt to injure the nationalist community by burning their own shops and their next door neighbour's car.
Doctor? wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Kath wrote:
Nick King wrote: Erm, wasn't somebody recommending that she gets the death penalty (or haven't I read all 3 pages of this thread correctly)??
Or that she should be burnt?
No, community service should suffice.
I personally think all this media attention is precisely what she's been craving for years. Deprive her of it, sweep her under the carpet. 'Nuff said. Let's not hear her name again. Concentrate on giving the child a new life, somewhere else, and don't report on that either.
Yeah the press should volunteer to abstain from reporting on her. Of course, they are money grabbing cunts and their readers are at best voyeurs and at worst, car-crash watchers.....so it'll never happen.
Just thinking....the last time he papers whipped up a frenzy was over kiddie fiddlers and the torch and pitchfork mob burned out.........a paediatrician! Impressive in itself, but all the more so since it requires them not only to be unable to read, but to believe that kiddie fiddlers hang signs outside.
Still beats NI loyalist mobs, who attempt to injure the nationalist community by burning their own shops and their next door neighbour's car.
That last paragraph sounds a bit Irish to me
