A Mini Viking today.......

Well here he/she is! If it's a girl we'll call her ELLA,or if it's a boy,erm haven't decided (Monty shouts Barney,Julie pretends not to notice).

Due on October 5th to come out and say hiya. The examiner who did the scan said,"You'll notice the head is proportionately large in relation to the body.

I said "Oh......it's a MONTY alright...."

MONTY wrote: If it's a girl we'll call her ELLA,

As in Aella? Congrats Monty.

James Thomas wrote:

MONTY wrote: If it's a girl we'll call her ELLA,

As in Aella? Congrats Monty.

Cheers Jimmy! "Ella..Ella...Ella...you can stand under my umbrella..."

I think I have sonogram blindness, I can never see a thing. Nevertheless.....way to go lad! :D

The actual scan was ace! It was boogieing about like he/she was at a Morrissey gig! I'm surprised they didn't do a rolypoly........

...though the umbilical might have got in way somewhat..

Whoa - way cool!

Even if we don't know each other - congrats to you and your other half for creating a new human! :)

Kruge wrote: Whoa - way cool!

Even if we don't know each other - congrats to you and your other half for creating a new human! :)

MONTY wrote: The actual scan was ace! It was boogieing about like he/she was at a Morrissey gig!

Is that a fuzzyness on the bottom of the pic a bunch of gladiolas in her pocket?

Congrats

Like I said when we were hanging out I am absolutely thrilled!

Another internet niece/nephew to buy cute things for! :P

Looks like a 'geriatric' mother (i.e. over 35). Increasingly the norm in Britain and the west but its not a good phenomenon. Teen parents get slagged off but actually they're just fulfilling their design remit. Career women, the pill and hedonistic lifestyles among the now middle aged have all played (a mostly negative) part.

Dave

Ravi Kumar wrote: Looks like a 'geriatric' mother (i.e. over 35). Increasingly the norm in Britain and the west but its not a good phenomenon. Teen parents get slagged off but actually they're just fulfilling their design remit. Career women, the pill and hedonistic lifestyles among the now middle aged have all played (a mostly negative) part.

Dave

Ravi,one point you actually missed is that Julie isn't a career woman,she's already got 2 kids. Let's not start getting personal now, a kick in the happy sacks may offend.

Ravi Kumar wrote: Looks like a 'geriatric' mother (i.e. over 35). Increasingly the norm in Britain and the west but its not a good phenomenon. Teen parents get slagged off but actually they're just fulfilling their design remit. Career women, the pill and hedonistic lifestyles among the now middle aged have all played (a mostly negative) part.

Dave

oh just fuck off. Time to use that new member restriction thing i reckon, Nicos.

Do the honours, purlease, and delete the Kumar.

And congrats btw, Monty, for the little monster..

MONTY wrote:

Ravi Kumar wrote: Looks like a 'geriatric' mother (i.e. over 35). Increasingly the norm in Britain and the west but its not a good phenomenon. Teen parents get slagged off but actually they're just fulfilling their design remit. Career women, the pill and hedonistic lifestyles among the now middle aged have all played (a mostly negative) part.

Dave

Ravi,one point you actually missed is that Julie isn't a career woman,she's already got 2 kids. Let's not start getting personal now, a kick in the happy sacks may offend.

it was a general point about the west. bruv

Ravi Kumar wrote:

MONTY wrote:

Ravi Kumar wrote: Looks like a 'geriatric' mother (i.e. over 35). Increasingly the norm in Britain and the west but its not a good phenomenon. Teen parents get slagged off but actually they're just fulfilling their design remit. Career women, the pill and hedonistic lifestyles among the now middle aged have all played (a mostly negative) part.

Dave

Ravi,one point you actually missed is that Julie isn't a career woman,she's already got 2 kids. Let's not start getting personal now, a kick in the happy sacks may offend.

it was a general point about the west. bruv

She's not geriatric either.

And I ain't your fucking bruv

Burt Reynolds wrote:

Ravi Kumar wrote:

MONTY wrote:

Ravi Kumar wrote: Looks like a 'geriatric' mother (i.e. over 35). Increasingly the norm in Britain and the west but its not a good phenomenon. Teen parents get slagged off but actually they're just fulfilling their design remit. Career women, the pill and hedonistic lifestyles among the now middle aged have all played (a mostly negative) part.

Dave

Ravi,one point you actually missed is that Julie isn't a career woman,she's already got 2 kids. Let's not start getting personal now, a kick in the happy sacks may offend.

it was a general point about the west. bruv

She's not geriatric either.

geriatric is the paediatric term for over 35's

I can see the point you're trying to make.But to come on this thread,and use my wife as an example is ..well a cunt trick.

....rather like using ones not-yet offspring as a badge of virility

Ravi Kumar wrote: ....rather like using ones not-yet offspring as a badge of virility

Time.. methinks to ditch this cunt for good.

No one disses Monty, the nicest bloke you could meet, and never a man who would brag about virility. Just joyful information for his many friends on this site.

Ravi Kumar wrote: ....rather like using ones not-yet offspring as a badge of virility

You fucking cunt.I vowed this afternoon that nothing else could spoil my day. Not quite a badge of virility,just that I so happen to be so proud of my wife and my first child.

MONTY wrote:

Ravi Kumar wrote: ....rather like using ones not-yet offspring as a badge of virility

You fucking cunt.I vowed this afternoon that nothing else could spoil my day. Not quite a badge of virility,just that I so happen to be so proud of my wife and my first child.

Don't let this trivial nasty piece of work spoil yer day, Monty.. he hides behind his little monikers and has nothing on what you've got, Mister

Here's to reality..

You're alright Burty.I deal with numbties like him every other day. At least I can honestly say Little Monty will put his country first before his religion.

Assuming there is anything left of the country by then. All in all a bit self-indulgent sir.

Burt Reynolds wrote:

MONTY wrote:

Ravi Kumar wrote: ....rather like using ones not-yet offspring as a badge of virility

You fucking cunt.I vowed this afternoon that nothing else could spoil my day. Not quite a badge of virility,just that I so happen to be so proud of my wife and my first child.

Don't let this trivial nasty piece of work spoil yer day, Monty.. he hides behind his little monikers and has nothing on what you've got, Mister

Here's to reality..

He's only lashing out because he can't in real life. No reason for him to ruin yer day Monty. Forget it, no reason to fret over trash in the gutter....

Self indulgent? Well here's the thing.You don't have to read the thread,it was for the people who know me,people who I've clubbed with,gigged with,and well have been the best friends I could ever have met.

Congrats to Monty and Julie!!!

Congrats and Good Luck Monty Man!

Congratulations Monty, I look forward to the arrival.

Woo!

(Can I volunteer myself as a moderator? I'm on here quite a lot and would gladly delete Ravi's posts in the absence of Jeff. To come on here and sneer at Monty for posting a scan pic is a whole new level of twattery. It's only because he'll never get a bird or lose his virginity to a two legged being. I think we've all suffered his tediousness for too long now)

Congrats, Monty! You're a top gent, so it's wonderful news that you've got some new joy in your life. Comrade's best wishes for you, the Mrs., and the new addition to your family!

Give Hicksy the badge, the gun, and the admin password!!!!!!!

(Col, I bet you £40 I can get banned before you! and no cheating!)

Ravi: I think most people are aware of my general dim view of breeding and the offspring it causes, but even WITHOUT the perfectly natural LPCF (Low-pass-Cuntishness-Filter) kicking in and preventing me from posting a rant or sleight on the subject of "too many monkeys".....even without that, I'd rather have a witty and intelligent chap like Monty raising the next generation of homo sapien sapiens (yes properly we're 2x sapient), than some fuckwit chav squirting them out for a council flat, or some veiled son-factory, or some unfortunate cunts in Africa having their 19th AIDS infected kid when they can't feed 5 on their income and assets, because some vile scumbag jesustard told them the sky fairy would burn them if they didn't.

You will find that Monty is a popular and respected gentleman round these parts, and for good reason. You will also find these posts of yours to have been a mistake.

Congrats Monts

Brilliant mate,'bout time my Eva had a wee English pal!

Best wishes to Julie as well mate, hope she keeps well

Congrats to the family monty

Ravi Kumar wrote: monty seems to be getting more attention than me, dam it!, EVERYBODY LISTEN TO ME AND MY CONTENTIOUS POSTINGS, ME ME ME ME ME, there, that should do it

El Jarvo wrote:

I'll be the one on the gas!

When our first was born,the midwife was gonny throw me out the room if she caught me at the gas one more time,think i had more of it than the mrs did!

El Jarvo wrote:

I'm expecting in June

AL makes medical history

Old Lead Foot wrote:

Ravi Kumar wrote: monty seems to be getting more attention than me, dam it!, EVERYBODY LISTEN TO ME AND MY CONTENTIOUS POSTINGS, ME ME ME ME ME, there, that should do it

Though i must admit Leady,i prefer Nick's quotes of him

Ravi Kumar wrote: some utter bollocks

Congrats Monty (and Al)...

Shame that something so positive and personal can be the trigger for a load of abuse...

Snorri xxx

Old Lead Foot wrote:

El Jarvo wrote:

I'm expecting in June

AL makes medical history

It'll be a C section, otherwise his arse'll be in tatters after it

Congrats Monty,Al and your missuses!

There is no love quite like what you feel for your bairns,and they love the hell out of you back..

It's great being a dad.Its the best!

Congrats!

Sincere congratulamations!

A baby is, like, 10 times better than finding an original working Clone Theory stomp box. Hooray for babies!

they are cheaper on ebay too

Doctor? wrote: Give Hicksy the badge, the gun, and the admin password!!!!!!!

(Col, I bet you £40 I can get banned before you! and no cheating!)

Ravi: I think most people are aware of my general dim view of breeding and the offspring it causes, but even WITHOUT the perfectly natural LPCF (Low-pass-Cuntishness-Filter) kicking in and preventing me from posting a rant or sleight on the subject of "too many monkeys".....even without that, I'd rather have a witty and intelligent chap like Monty raising the next generation of homo sapien sapiens (yes properly we're 2x sapient), than some fuckwit chav squirting them out for a council flat, or some veiled son-factory, or some unfortunate cunts in Africa having their 19th AIDS infected kid when they can't feed 5 on their income and assets, because some vile scumbag jesustard told them the sky fairy would burn them if they didn't.

You will find that Monty is a popular and respected gentleman round these parts, and for good reason. You will also find these posts of yours to have been a mistake.

You can't have (give birth to) Aids infected children, Steve. The same way you can't catch Aids. More ignorance on your part again, as in many of your posts I read. Aids is a term used to describe the latter stages of HIV ( Human Immunodeficiency Virus )where an immune system is considered so weak it is unable to fight off a range of diseases that it would normally cope with.

Congratulations Monty. Life will never be the same, in a more fulfilling and happy way!

Perhaps a warning to us all that very personal things are best shared via different means in the future between friends, e.g email, and not on a public forum that anyone in the world can access. Not a criticism, just a thought.

If a blerk can't share his joy about becoming a dad,it being the single most important thing that will ever happen to him to my mind,in any way he wants..then it's a sorry state of affairs.

Fuck Ravi Kumar in the ear..Who's arsed about his warped dickhead mumblings?

Hearty congratulations to Monty and Al!!

Ravi: I'm 28 and still childless. If you are volunteering to get me knocked up before I turn geriatric and doing your part for society, I'm all ears. And Vajayjay.

Congratulations Monty

PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote: Hearty congratulations to Monty and Al!!

I thought it was Monty and his wife who were having the baby.

Congratulations, Monty!

Congrats Monty. God bless your family

Congrats to Monty+family. Also to BIG AL.....

congratulations and best wishes to Monty et Jarvo and your respective families

Cheers Monty, a true blessing, best wishes with it all.

Well done Monty, don't let ravi get you down, he's just jealous that your unborn child has more intelligence than he does.

Gnu Odor wrote:

PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote: Hearty congratulations to Monty and Al!!

I thought it was Monty and his wife who were having the baby.

You've never been to a pre-gig get-together. Big gangs of grinning lads all going to the toilet at the same time. I mean, they must be having sex together, right.

Er, right????

Bonzette wrote:

Doctor? wrote: Give Hicksy the badge, the gun, and the admin password!!!!!!!

(Col, I bet you £40 I can get banned before you! and no cheating!)

Ravi: I think most people are aware of my general dim view of breeding and the offspring it causes, but even WITHOUT the perfectly natural LPCF (Low-pass-Cuntishness-Filter) kicking in and preventing me from posting a rant or sleight on the subject of "too many monkeys".....even without that, I'd rather have a witty and intelligent chap like Monty raising the next generation of homo sapien sapiens (yes properly we're 2x sapient), than some fuckwit chav squirting them out for a council flat, or some veiled son-factory, or some unfortunate cunts in Africa having their 19th AIDS infected kid when they can't feed 5 on their income and assets, because some vile scumbag jesustard told them the sky fairy would burn them if they didn't.

You will find that Monty is a popular and respected gentleman round these parts, and for good reason. You will also find these posts of yours to have been a mistake.

You can't have (give birth to) Aids infected children, Steve. The same way you can't catch Aids. More ignorance on your part again, as in many of your posts I read. Aids is a term used to describe the latter stages of HIV ( Human Immunodeficiency Virus )where an immune system is considered so weak it is unable to fight off a range of diseases that it would normally cope with.

Congratulations Monty. Life will never be the same, in a more fulfilling and happy way!

Perhaps a warning to us all that very personal things are best shared via different means in the future between friends, e.g email, and not on a public forum that anyone in the world can access. Not a criticism, just a thought.

'pologies, Hair successfully split, yes, Jesus wants his brown babies with HIV, not AIDS.

Can't complain, I've corrected people for less.

Jed Stephens wrote: Well done Monty, don't let ravi get you down, he's just jealous that your unborn child has more intelligence than he does.

Come on....the PLACENTA could out think that spacker.

Jed Stephens wrote: Well done Monty, don't let ravi get you down, he's just jealous that your unborn child has more intelligence than he does.

Come on....the PLACENTA could out think that spacker.

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote:

Gnu Odor wrote:

PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote: Hearty congratulations to Monty and Al!!

I thought it was Monty and his wife who were having the baby.

You've never been to a pre-gig get-together. Big gangs of grinning lads all going to the toilet at the same time. I mean, they must be having sex together, right.

Er, right????

Burty Chops did touch my bum...

does that count

It only counts if he was snorting half of fucking Bolivia off your penis at the same time, Jeff.

Doctor? wrote:

Bonzette wrote:

Doctor? wrote: Give Hicksy the badge, the gun, and the admin password!!!!!!!

(Col, I bet you £40 I can get banned before you! and no cheating!)

Ravi: I think most people are aware of my general dim view of breeding and the offspring it causes, but even WITHOUT the perfectly natural LPCF (Low-pass-Cuntishness-Filter) kicking in and preventing me from posting a rant or sleight on the subject of "too many monkeys".....even without that, I'd rather have a witty and intelligent chap like Monty raising the next generation of homo sapien sapiens (yes properly we're 2x sapient), than some fuckwit chav squirting them out for a council flat, or some veiled son-factory, or some unfortunate cunts in Africa having their 19th AIDS infected kid when they can't feed 5 on their income and assets, because some vile scumbag jesustard told them the sky fairy would burn them if they didn't.

You will find that Monty is a popular and respected gentleman round these parts, and for good reason. You will also find these posts of yours to have been a mistake.

You can't have (give birth to) Aids infected children, Steve. The same way you can't catch Aids. More ignorance on your part again, as in many of your posts I read. Aids is a term used to describe the latter stages of HIV ( Human Immunodeficiency Virus )where an immune system is considered so weak it is unable to fight off a range of diseases that it would normally cope with.

Congratulations Monty. Life will never be the same, in a more fulfilling and happy way!

Perhaps a warning to us all that very personal things are best shared via different means in the future between friends, e.g email, and not on a public forum that anyone in the world can access. Not a criticism, just a thought.

'pologies, Hair successfully split, yes, Jesus wants his brown babies with HIV, not AIDS.

Can't complain, I've corrected people for less.

For less? Let's get one thing really crystal here, my love. I'm not correcting you for pure pettiness, I'm correcting you because working with young people and families (of all ethnicity) affected by HIV and Aids is what I do, and what I have been involved in since 2005, voluntarily.

And there's a major, significant difference in the 'information' that you are casually ranting about on these posts. It's such ignorance (and you're way off key in your statements) that continue to lead the prejudice when it comes to the understanding of HIV and Aids and those that live with it, and have it.

Bonzette wrote:

For less? Let's get one thing really crystal here, my love. I'm not correcting you for pure pettiness, I'm correcting you because working with young people and families (of all ethnicity) affected by HIV and Aids is what I do, and what I have been involved in since 2005, voluntarily.

And there's a major, significant difference in the 'information' that you are casually ranting about on these posts. It's such ignorance (and you're way off key in your statements) that continue to lead the prejudice when it comes to the understanding of HIV and Aids and those that live with it, and have it.

Are we talking BAD Aids here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNs2mOkKzc

PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote:

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote:

Gnu Odor wrote:

PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote: Hearty congratulations to Monty and Al!!

I thought it was Monty and his wife who were having the baby.

You've never been to a pre-gig get-together. Big gangs of grinning lads all going to the toilet at the same time. I mean, they must be having sex together, right.

Er, right????

Burty Chops did touch my bum...

does that count

It only counts if he was snorting half of fucking Bolivia off your penis at the same time, Jeff.

Dont think ye'd get even the 'B' from Bolivia on Jeffs chipolata,never mind half of it

Thanks a lot for all your best wishes folks!

great news Monty, hope it all goes swimmingly

Ravi doesn't want to impregnate me :(

Never mind Chrissy...he might be a Jaffa...

(Seedless fruit)

El Jarvo wrote: Congrats, Monters.

I'm expecting in June but I'm so facking squeamish I even turned blue at all our scans seeing the little blighter moving around. I am really that squeamish!

I'm gonna be in pieces at the birth. I'll be the one on the gas!

Nice one Al! All the best to you and your good lady!

Andrew Sayer wrote: great news Monty, hope it all goes swimmingly

It already has. All the way up uterine way to meet a lass from ovarian central.

congrats again monty and julie

ShugZV wrote: You got married then got her pregnant?

What's the world coming to?

Congrats to the pair of ye's

Oh, and Jarvo.....wait till the shitey nappies start, that'll really turn ye blue

A Blue Jarvis?? He'll look like that fella from "Watchmen". Only with shitey nappies, natch....

Besides, he's a Luton fan. He's used to dealing with an endless stream of shite, etc etc etc....

Bonzette wrote:

Doctor? wrote: I'd rather have a witty and intelligent chap like Monty raising the next generation of homo sapien sapiens (yes properly we're 2x sapient), than some fuckwit chav squirting them out for a council flat, or some veiled son-factory, or some unfortunate cunts in Africa having their 19th AIDS infected kid when they can't feed 5 on their income and assets, because some vile scumbag jesustard told them the sky fairy would burn them if they didn't.

You can't have (give birth to) Aids infected children, Steve. The same way you can't catch Aids. More ignorance on your part again, as in many of your posts I read. Aids is a term used to describe the latter stages of HIV ( Human Immunodeficiency Virus )where an immune system is considered so weak it is unable to fight off a range of diseases that it would normally cope with.

Congratulations Monty. Life will never be the same, in a more fulfilling and happy way!

She's so right! There really are 24 Hours in a day..

If it were a numbers game, people 'have' AIDS when their CD4 immune cell count has dropped below 200 per ml because HIV destroyed all the rest. That's the level at which their body can no longer fight infection and win. And, funnily enough, 75% of babies born to HIV positive mothers are naturally HIV negative, that figure rising where there is good nutrition and/or antiretroviral treatment in place. In your First World there are more and more people who are HIV positive, elsewhere deaths from AIDS exceeds new HIV infections. It's not a numbers game though and informing, care and support are king.

MONTY wrote: Well here he/she is! If it's a girl we'll call her ELLA,or if it's a boy,erm haven't decided (Monty shouts Barney,Julie pretends not to notice).

Due on October 5th to come out and say hiya. The examiner who did the scan said,"You'll notice the head is proportionately large in relation to the body.

I said "Oh......it's a MONTY alright...."

Good news Job well done

Bonzette wrote:

Doctor? wrote: Give Hicksy the badge, the gun, and the admin password!!!!!!!

(Col, I bet you £40 I can get banned before you! and no cheating!)

Ravi: I think most people are aware of my general dim view of breeding and the offspring it causes, but even WITHOUT the perfectly natural LPCF (Low-pass-Cuntishness-Filter) kicking in and preventing me from posting a rant or sleight on the subject of "too many monkeys".....even without that, I'd rather have a witty and intelligent chap like Monty raising the next generation of homo sapien sapiens (yes properly we're 2x sapient), than some fuckwit chav squirting them out for a council flat, or some veiled son-factory, or some unfortunate cunts in Africa having their 19th AIDS infected kid when they can't feed 5 on their income and assets, because some vile scumbag jesustard told them the sky fairy would burn them if they didn't.

You will find that Monty is a popular and respected gentleman round these parts, and for good reason. You will also find these posts of yours to have been a mistake.

You can't have (give birth to) Aids infected children, Steve. The same way you can't catch Aids. More ignorance on your part again, as in many of your posts I read. Aids is a term used to describe the latter stages of HIV ( Human Immunodeficiency Virus )where an immune system is considered so weak it is unable to fight off a range of diseases that it would normally cope with.

Congratulations Monty. Life will never be the same, in a more fulfilling and happy way!

Perhaps a warning to us all that very personal things are best shared via different means in the future between friends, e.g email, and not on a public forum that anyone in the world can access. Not a criticism, just a thought.

Congratulations Monty, and apologies for hijacking your thread. Intesresting points made by Bonzette though. Have you read "AIDS And It's Metaphor's' by Susan Sontag? Read it years ago when I was at Yooni. Fascinating book for a sociological slant on AIDS and disease in general.

(logging on via Telford hotel - still busted laptop!)

Congrats Monty, and ignore that Ravi bloke - he must have got bullied at school...

GlasVegas wrote:

Bonzette wrote:

Doctor? wrote: Give Hicksy the badge, the gun, and the admin password!!!!!!!

(Col, I bet you £40 I can get banned before you! and no cheating!)

Ravi: I think most people are aware of my general dim view of breeding and the offspring it causes, but even WITHOUT the perfectly natural LPCF (Low-pass-Cuntishness-Filter) kicking in and preventing me from posting a rant or sleight on the subject of "too many monkeys".....even without that, I'd rather have a witty and intelligent chap like Monty raising the next generation of homo sapien sapiens (yes properly we're 2x sapient), than some fuckwit chav squirting them out for a council flat, or some veiled son-factory, or some unfortunate cunts in Africa having their 19th AIDS infected kid when they can't feed 5 on their income and assets, because some vile scumbag jesustard told them the sky fairy would burn them if they didn't.

You will find that Monty is a popular and respected gentleman round these parts, and for good reason. You will also find these posts of yours to have been a mistake.

You can't have (give birth to) Aids infected children, Steve. The same way you can't catch Aids. More ignorance on your part again, as in many of your posts I read. Aids is a term used to describe the latter stages of HIV ( Human Immunodeficiency Virus )where an immune system is considered so weak it is unable to fight off a range of diseases that it would normally cope with.

Congratulations Monty. Life will never be the same, in a more fulfilling and happy way!

Perhaps a warning to us all that very personal things are best shared via different means in the future between friends, e.g email, and not on a public forum that anyone in the world can access. Not a criticism, just a thought.

Congratulations Monty, and apologies for hijacking your thread. Intesresting points made by Bonzette though. Have you read "AIDS And It's Metaphor's' by Susan Sontag? Read it years ago when I was at Yooni. Fascinating book for a sociological slant on AIDS and disease in general.

Sorry Monts :-)

Not read or heard of this book, but thanks for the information because I'll track it down tomorrow and get back to you with my thoughts.

1/4 of my degree is based on Sociology in relation to Nursing, and on said subject, the lead lecturer's 'specialism' is sexuality and sexual disease. I could listen to his lectures all day long. It's fascinating how entwined Nursing and sociology really are (especially in Mental Health). I have to a do a location project based on the the local community and health, so HIV and AIDs will be my focus.

See you on the 4th!

Bonzette wrote:

For less? Let's get one thing really crystal here, my love. I'm not correcting you for pure pettiness, I'm correcting you because working with young people and families (of all ethnicity) affected by HIV and Aids is what I do, and what I have been involved in since 2005, voluntarily.

And there's a major, significant difference in the 'information' that you are casually ranting about on these posts. It's such ignorance (and you're way off key in your statements) that continue to lead the prejudice when it comes to the understanding of HIV and Aids and those that live with it, and have it.

I had been wondering if there had been some major sea change in jesustard doctrine since last I checked, after all, why else would you be telling me they aren't going round Africa making it oh so much worse.

But Looky here, from this very morning....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7967173.stm

Still talking crap, still ruining lives.

(last time I checked, I'm reasonably sure I myself am largely only guilty of the former)

Doctor? wrote:

Bonzette wrote:

For less? Let's get one thing really crystal here, my love. I'm not correcting you for pure pettiness, I'm correcting you because working with young people and families (of all ethnicity) affected by HIV and Aids is what I do, and what I have been involved in since 2005, voluntarily.

And there's a major, significant difference in the 'information' that you are casually ranting about on these posts. It's such ignorance (and you're way off key in your statements) that continue to lead the prejudice when it comes to the understanding of HIV and Aids and those that live with it, and have it.

I had been wondering if there had been some major sea change in jesustard doctrine since last I checked, after all, why else would you be telling me they aren't going round Africa making it oh so much worse.

But Looky here, from this very morning....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7967173.stm

Still talking crap, still ruining lives.

(last time I checked, I'm reasonably sure I myself am largely only guilty of the former)

Where have I made any reference to religion, or told you that religion, in particular Catholic, has not played a significant part in HIV and Aids? (I was actually making reference to your comments on Aids and the difference between HIV and Aids)

Although a key player, religion is only part of a range of issues and problems that all need tackling if we are to reduce the epidemic in Africa. Education is the main problem, where HIV and Aids are concerened, as well as Famine, Poverty, Cultural, a lack of structure and community in many countries, and more importantly, a serious lack of healthcare professionals in large parts of Africa where families, individuals and communities are unable to access treatment, support or education of any kind.

On top of that you have comments being made, as the ones in the article you have posted, that continue to strike fear into those that believe in the Catolic religion (not just Afica, worldwide)that hinder the hard work and progress that is being made at ground level. But if we are to really make a dent and reduce the number of people infected by HIV Aids, particually in Africa, then there needs a to be a better understanding of the other significant key factors that contribute to the rise in these diseases. EDUCATION.

Countries such as the UK, have had a significant decline in HIV/ Aids education, and figures continue to rise of those now becoming infected with the virus.

Overdue Congrats dear boy.......