Oasis

Oasis Many who like The Charlatans like them Like

Thanks Facebook, I'll bear that in mind!

gOOD ....I HAVE A HOSepipe ban here and i ain't got a garden! Hope this HELPS

My Gran got a letter saying she'd been recommended for patio doors. She sent it to the Police - she lived in a 1st floor flat!

does the same go with paul weller?

I hate that recommended pages thing on Facebook.

'(insert number of 'friends' here) like this'.

Just because a lot of the people on my friends list like it doesn't mean I would necessarily like it.

PS- I like Oasis but I don't like the Charlatans much.

Facebook is evil, someone on MSN told me.

leather_girl wrote: I hate that recommended pages thing on Facebook.

'(insert number of 'friends' here) like this'.

Just because a lot of the people on my friends list like it doesn't mean I would necessarily like it.

Yupp! Mostly it's rubbish, but sometimes it works ;).

Pablo Bastardo wrote: My Gran got a letter saying she'd been recommended for patio doors. She sent it to the Police - she lived in a 1st floor flat!

My mate got one of those 'Cash For Gold' freepost envelopes in the Olympia Shopping Centre in East Kilbride and posted off a plastic, gold coloured Mardi Gras bead necklace thing that Bacardi give away at festivals. They sent it back with a polite note saying the the gold content wasn't high enough

GlasVegas wrote:

Pablo Bastardo wrote: My Gran got a letter saying she'd been recommended for patio doors. She sent it to the Police - she lived in a 1st floor flat!

My mate got one of those 'Cash For Gold' freepost envelopes in the Olympia Shopping Centre in East Kilbride and posted off a plastic, gold coloured Mardi Gras bead necklace thing that Bacardi give away at festivals. They sent it back with a polite note saying the the gold content wasn't high enough

Good idea...

this happens on Amazon when I buy presents for people. you may like some more Thomas the Tank engine DVDs or the new Take That lp.

I clicked into this thread hoping to see some vicious diatribes telling us all how Oasis are shite.

Sadly, I was to be disappointed....

So...... WERE Oasis shite?

:p

No, although they pretty much ran out of ideas when Johnny Marr left them to it and the coke took hold.

That said Going Nowhere is one of my favourite songs at the moment.

Hope this helps.

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote:

So...... WERE Oasis shite?

:p

Were - Are - And Always Will Be

Pablo Bastardo wrote: No, although they pretty much ran out of ideas when Johnny Marr left them to it and the coke took hold.

That said Going Nowhere is one of my favourite songs at the moment.

Hope this helps.

I hadnt realised that Johnny Marr was such a significant part of Oasis that they only became bereft of ideas after the three songs he contributed to were released.

I mean, when people think Oasis, they obviously think of classics such as (Probably) All in the Mind, Born on a Different Cloud and Better Man.

And as for the Coke, well, I suppose that was another thing that only happened to Oasis after 2002 as well!

Back in the real world, its pretty widely acknowledged that Heathen Chemistry (the only album Marr played on) is one of the worst albums they ever did, I suppose lacklustre might well describe it. At least Standing on the Shoulders of Giants had some half decent tracks on it (combined with a LOT of shit), whereas Heathen Chemistry doesnt. The very idea that Marr had any kind of positive impact on Oasis is, at best, laughable. But then again Colin, that pretty accurately describes your Johnny Marr obsession.

I didnt even know Johnny Marr (plays guitar) was involved in Oasis. Is there anybody he hasnt done stuff with? And why is he with that bunch of kids at the moment? The Cribs, I think. It always reminds me of a band at my school where the bass players Dad was one of our teachers. Each Christmas they'd play a concert and Mr Anderson would join them with his Gibson SG (and in his head he was with the rest of Pink Floyd).

Anyway, thats what I think of whenever I see The Cribs.

I agree with ger boy.oasis have a very inflated opinion of themselves,god knows why.they are mediocre at best and totally obnoxious. There are better bands around.they are called joy division and new order.

Johnny Marr played on the early Oasis albums but wasn't credited.

Colin,

are you seriously suggesting that Johnny Marr playing on the early Oasis records (something which seems to exist only in your head, by the way) and him not being involved in later albums contributed to the decline of Oasis?

So Johnny Marr was uncredited, why then was he credited on three Heathen Chemistry songs? Why this sudden change of policy? Three songs, which are remarkable only for their sheer blandness.

And as for the coke. If Johnny Marr was playing on say Be Here Now, and it wasnt until the coke took hold, which you imply was after Marr stopped playing for them. Of course, its widely known that Oasis were coked up to the eyeballs for most of the mid 90's, resulting in the fantastically overblown nonsense that is Be Here Now.

Right, I'm off to listen to the last Modest Mouse EP. Apparently, its very good.

Shut up Liam, you're a cunt.

Pablo Bastardo wrote: Shut up Liam, you're a cunt.

And you're deluded!

“I don't like critiquing bands, I'm not very good at it and I change my mind every day,” says Marr neutrally. “Working with them was fun. We spent so much time together for years without writing anything together. It was all pretty causal - they had a couple of songs where the guitar wasn't working and I played on them - it wasn't very formal at all.”

Link

Marr's involvement in early Oasis is also mentioned in this book. and elsewhere.

Why am I deluded? And why are you so obsessed with coming on here and being rude to me? I've not posted on here very much for months. First thread I start, you pounce on it and start being a cunt, calling me obsessed and deluded. It's a very strange way to carry on. A bit worrying, really.

Is still like the first two (maybe three albums). Then they went downhill very fast. I can't remember to have listened to "...shoulders of giants" more than once...

Apparaently theyve got another 'Best of' cd coming out, its called 'When We Were Good' and theres only about 4 songs on it...

Oasis = Absolute Dogwank!

prolly one of, if not the most Overrated band in the last 20 years.

Well, they did have two good songs... but I have never understood the hype, they really only have two good songs.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: The first two albums & "Whatever" EP are great and were just the boot up the arse the charts needed at the time to drag it away from M People and the like.

Eh? M People wrote some cracking tunes during the '90s. Rennaisance, How Can I Love You More?, Open Up Your Heart, Colour My Life etc etc. I'll take them over the dad-rock of Oasis any day of the week.

I like and hate Oasis at the same time. Anything Noel sings I just love, when Twatstick takes the mic I turn it off.

Pablo Bastardo wrote:

“I don't like critiquing bands, I'm not very good at it and I change my mind every day,” says Marr neutrally. “Working with them was fun. We spent so much time together for years without writing anything together. It was all pretty causal - they had a couple of songs where the guitar wasn't working and I played on them - it wasn't very formal at all.”

Link

Marr's involvement in early Oasis is also mentioned in this book. and elsewhere.

Why am I deluded? And why are you so obsessed with coming on here and being rude to me? I've not posted on here very much for months. First thread I start, you pounce on it and start being a cunt, calling me obsessed and deluded. It's a very strange way to carry on. A bit worrying, really.

To clear up- Johnny's brother "discovered" Oasis when they were little more than a pub band and gave Johnny a tape with the demos of definitely maybe. Johnny saw something in them and made a few introductions, played a bit with them and the rest as they say is history. That said they are not my cup of tea at all - important in the 90s- mostly gash after.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Just personal preference, never been a fan of M People. Her voice does my head in and I don't think it's dated all that well. Search For The Hero is cheddar on toast with Pickering's sax waffling away in the background.

I think it's reasonable to say some pretty tepid dance music was ruling the charts pre-Britpop, not to say that there wasn't lots of good dance music as well but there was a shift towards guitar bands after '94 wasn't there?

Oooft. Yer 'Search For The Hero' era was long after they'd had any relevance. Utter utter shite, agreed. Can't beat the Sasha remix of How Can I Love You More tho....

GlasVegas wrote:

I think Johnny Marr played on that one

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Just personal preference, never been a fan of M People. Her voice does my head in and I don't think it's dated all that well. Search For The Hero is cheddar on toast with Pickering's sax waffling away in the background.

I think it's reasonable to say some pretty tepid dance music was ruling the charts pre-Britpop, not to say that there wasn't lots of good dance music as well but there was a shift towards guitar bands after '94 wasn't there?

Yeah - bloody M people eh?!!!

Her voice! Honks like a goose doesn't she??!!

Pablo Bastardo wrote: I think Johnny Marr played on that one

Johnny Marr plays on the film score on the new DiCaprio film - Inception.

That's a fact whether Liam likes it or not

Johnny Marr's finest guest appearance was on 'Still Feel The Rain' by Stex, a British nu-soul outfit who released a couple of singles in the late '80s then dissapeared. I hunted high and low for this tune for literally years before finding it on eil.com. Paid a pretty penny for it too.

He's even in the video (horribly out of sync though it is) for all the non-believers out there.

Missy Jem wrote:

Pablo Bastardo wrote: I think Johnny Marr played on that one

Johnny Marr plays on the film score on the new DiCaprio film - Inception.

That's a fact whether Liam likes it or not

Doesnt make it listenable though. The fact that you name it "the new DiCaprio film" rather than the director/producer of the film never mind its actual title speaks volumes.

I must admit how the revionist argument about how Johnny Marrs brother 'discovered' Oasis is news to me. There was me thinking it was Alan McGee (hence them signing to Creation) but, hey, you live and learn I guess.

The whole Rule Britannia debacle was a bit naff, especially Blair shaking hands with Noel. But even today every provincial pub has those same old hits on their jukebox.

On the whole most groups from Manchester were fookin shiiiite, and inferior to those of the Mersey.

The Teacher wrote:

Doesnt make it listenable though. The fact that you name it "the new DiCaprio film" rather than the director/producer of the film never mind its actual title speaks volumes.

Excuse me? So, because I choose to say the name of the main Actor (that people are more likely to be familiar with) rather than the Director...

I suppose you're implying that I'm stupid.

Teacher knows best.

Did Marr and Sumner play on this track too? I always thought they did ,but wasn't sure.

I must admit how the revionist argument about how Johnny Marrs brother 'discovered' Oasis is news to me. There was me thinking it was Alan McGee (hence them signing to Creation) but, hey, you live and learn I guess.

From an Oasis archive

"A fresh coincidence exhibits itself at the band's last gig of the year at their home from home, the Boardwalk, on November 22. They are third on the bill, behinf The Cherries and Molly Half Head. Over-running wildly, the band have a stand-off with The Cherries which ends in the plug being pulled on them. Liam, in a rage, spends the whole night searching for the culprits, seeking revenge.

"Oasis' luck begins to change. Meeting with an old friend from the Inspirals days at the Hacienda, a discussion starts about the nerits of The The's Dusk LP, and how pleased the friend's brother was with his work on it. Straight away, Noel realises he's talking about Johnny Marr [ex-Smiths]. Overwhelmed, he insists the friend pass on an Oasis tape to brother John. The next day, Noel receives a spontaneous call from Marr himself,congratulating him on the songs, and the pair start talking about vintage guitars. Already hooked on a love of classic instruments, Noel mentions about a shop in Doncaster that he's heard about. Excited beyond words,Johnny immediately agrees to drive up there with Noel to check it out. The ex-Smiths guitarist proceeds to spend �9,000 on guitars that afternoon. He also hints that he'll mention the group to his own manager, Marcus Russell".

Here you go Liam. Johnny's brother Ian championed them originally and played the tapes to lots of people in Manchester. The rest as they say is history... Still don't like Oasis though!

Missy Jem wrote:

The Teacher wrote:

Doesnt make it listenable though. The fact that you name it "the new DiCaprio film" rather than the director/producer of the film never mind its actual title speaks volumes.

Excuse me? So, because I choose to say the name of the main Actor (that people are more likely to be familiar with) rather than the Director...

I suppose you're implying that I'm stupid.

Teacher knows best.

Au contraire.

Its about what type of film it is, whilst DiCaprio is a reasonable actor, and he deserves credit for challending himself in films such as B;lood Diamond, most of DiCaprio's films (which I've seen, cant claim to have seen them all) revolve around blatant sensationalism and the "ooh, look. We've got Dicaprio in our film."

the only song I like by Oasis, is 'some might say'

Oasis remind me of my heyday in the mid-'90s, when I was in my early 20s. I must admit I was into the whole Blur/Oasis thing (I leaned towards Blur). However, I did love Oasis. 'Specially their first two albums. I kind of lost track of them after that. They've totally disappeared over here and I've no idea if they're even still together.

Anyone else go to their 1996 show at Knebworth?

Back to my original point:

I LOVE ALLAH Many who like Texas Hold'em Poker like this

Pablo Bastardo wrote: Back to my original point:

I LOVE ALLAH Many who like Texas Hold'em Poker like this

Infidel!! :mad4:

Its a bit easy having a go at Oasis now, their time is long past and the power of hind sight is a great thing, history has shown them not to be the great talent they told us they were. But they did indeed give the British music world a much needed kick up the arse, after what seemed like years of insipid dance cack in the charts suddenly there were people who's names you knew, and they had stories and some of the songs werent too bad, they looked pretty good, had a great front man, yup he is a knob and a bully. But what do you want from a star? Shaun Ryder was a yob and a bully and a thief and a junkie, and everyone loved/loves him, these things go in cycles, the mondays suffered the backlash, it was great for a while hearing about them and their antics, then sufddenly it wasnt the done thing to be any more. I think without Liam they would have been nothing, of course if he toned it down a bit they would have been bigger, but so what. I didnt have to live with him thankfully. Noel on the other hand although he did the important bit of writting the songs, i found his taste in music so achingly predictable, always struck me as a guy who owned about three records, always remember him saying he didnt want to be some little band like the Velver Underground!!!!!!!he fuckin wishes. Now he is reduced to turning up on chat shows giving witty one liners. The dream is over, they werent that great, but they werent that terrible either, they were just an enjoyable flash in the pan. These days with Amy Winehouse and Pete Doherty on the front page every second day, its kinda hard to remember how odd it was when a band would make the front page of the sun for something as daft as them getting a haircut. It felt like something was happening, maybe just maybe these guys were going to the next B*****s, well they certainly were not, but for a couple of years they got people talking and interested in music, well at least people who werent into music before. Another bad thing they did was open the flood gates for Ocean Colour Scene etc to do our nuts in, in fact the charts have been utterly shite since they appeared now that i think about it, just in a different way. Thet upset the apple cart and we all know what Stephen Morris says about what happens after that. Its 4.05 am, im tired. Good night.

leather_girl wrote: I hate that recommended pages thing on Facebook.

'(insert number of 'friends' here) like this'.

Just because a lot of the people on my friends list like it doesn't mean I would necessarily like it.

PS- I like Oasis but I don't like the Charlatans much.

I like both, but on different levels. Oasis are more important to me than The Charlatans, but The Charlatans are definitely more likeable.

Both their debuts are my favourite albums, although I think I like Definitely Maybe more than Some Friendly.

The Teacher wrote:

I hadnt realised that Johnny Marr was such a significant part of Oasis that they only became bereft of ideas after the three songs he contributed to were released.

I mean, when people think Oasis, they obviously think of classics such as (Probably) All in the Mind, Born on a Different Cloud and Better Man.

I mean, I got to know them around 2002, when Heathen Chemistry was out, but I think nowadays it might be my least favourite album.

I still like Better Man, though. Can't beat many other songs, but it's still pretty good.

The Teacher wrote:

Back in the real world, its pretty widely acknowledged that Heathen Chemistry (the only album Marr played on) is one of the worst albums they ever did, I suppose lacklustre might well describe it. At least Standing on the Shoulders of Giants had some half decent tracks on it (combined with a LOT of shit), whereas Heathen Chemistry doesnt. The very idea that Marr had any kind of positive impact on Oasis is, at best, laughable. But then again Colin, that pretty accurately describes your Johnny Marr obsession.

I used to like the album a lot, but after time, it's not really good. I totally agree with you on SOTSOG, as a whole is even better than WTSMG, in my opinion.

The Teacher wrote:

Missy Jem wrote:

The Teacher wrote:

Doesnt make it listenable though. The fact that you name it "the new DiCaprio film" rather than the director/producer of the film never mind its actual title speaks volumes.

Excuse me? So, because I choose to say the name of the main Actor (that people are more likely to be familiar with) rather than the Director...

I suppose you're implying that I'm stupid.

Teacher knows best.

Au contraire.

Its about what type of film it is, whilst DiCaprio is a reasonable actor, and he deserves credit for challending himself in films such as B;lood Diamond, most of DiCaprio's films (which I've seen, cant claim to have seen them all) revolve around blatant sensationalism and the "ooh, look. We've got Dicaprio in our film."

maybe worth noting that dicaprio was named in the top 3 most powerful people in hollywood (cameron was first) recently liam, in which case jem was right to link it that way rather than by using mr nolan's name

also, beady eye? wtf?

Sorry if I'm late in adding to this thread.

Liam's voice - a spoilt baby screaming at you - should be exactly a good reason why never to smoke.

Liam Gallagher and Robbie Williams: two boys who left school too early, and found commerce taking pity on them even though they have no talent at all... shame on us.