Memento

Just watched it again after about a year or so.

Great film but is going on at the end? Is he really just a f*cked up killer being manipulated through his wife's "incident"? Was she raped? Any ideas ?

Signed : dunce in the class :bag:

If you've got it on Region 2 DVD there is a hidden Easter Egg where you can actually watch the movie in the correct chronological order :

Go to the special features menu, as the menu spins through the different options just before the writing "trailer" appears on the bottom of the polaroid press Enter on your remote control. You'll find you have accessed a re-edited version of the film in chronological order.

Courtesy of DVD Easter Eggs :)

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WARNING OMG WARNING TEHRE ARE SPOILERS BELOW DONT SAY I DIDNT WARN YOU

Yes, Lenny's wife was raped but she survived. She was the woman in the Sammy Jenkis story, and he indeed was Sammy Jenkis. They (Teddy and Lenny) had killed the killer ages before the story takes place but Teddy uses Lenny to kill drug dealers and the like.

Fantastic film, got it on DVD.

Yes, Lenny's wife was raped but she survived. She was the woman in the Sammy Jenkis story, and he indeed was Sammy Jenkis. They (Teddy and Lenny) had killed the killer ages before the story takes place but Teddy uses Lenny to kill drug dealers and the like.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I understood it too. You all seen Chris Nolan's "Following"? Nice little low-budget flick that plays with linear structure.

BUT---! If you really want some seamless mindfuck-inducing movies, I'd recommend Lynch's "Lost Highway" and "Mulholland Drive." Took me about 3 viewings each to figure those ones out. Absolutely brilliant, especially 'Mulholland.'

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I really enjoyed Mulholland Drive up until the point where Lynch added onto the original series pilot (ie where they find the body in the apartment) - after that it lost me completely and I still haven't recovered. However, the good bits in it are classic Lynch - my favourite is the Cowboy. Memento is a top movie - I even managed to figure it out on the first viewing, which is a rare experience for me - I'm usually the guy behind you who annoys the crap out of you by leaning over to my friend and whispering loudly "who's that guy again and why did that other guy just shoot the girl who kissed that old guy?"

Originally posted by Push I really enjoyed Mulholland Drive up until the point where Lynch added onto the original series pilot (ie where they find the body in the apartment) - after that it lost me completely and I still haven't recovered. However, the good bits in it are classic Lynch - my favourite is the Cowboy.

"There's sometimes a buggy. How many drivers does a buggy have?" "One." "Then let's just say I'm driving this buggy, and if you fix your attitude, I might let you ride along with me. How's that sound?"

Stick with the movie. It makes sense if you just keep watching it and seeing how everything fits together. Little lines like the Cowboy's "You'll see me once if you do good, twice if you do bad" can be big clues (yes, that line is a big clue for later). hmmm...I might just watch it tonight.

shave.

Nice one Hickster, I like where your coming from with that comment.

It could so easily have been, sasquatch.

Surely "shave" is much more apt than "sasquatch," don't you think, H?

Now I think about it yes.

And that re-inforces my compliment.

I am before my time. The land that time forgot.

Of course, I rarely shave, I beard trim. Which can take longer.

don't answer the phone

if it could speak, how could i resist?

hypnotism?

else by one made abroad so you wouldnt understand it

i would prefer some form of hypnotism.

whilst i was under the influence, paul mckenna could make me capable of complex mathematical equations and hand me the ability to fly.

or he could try and stop me smoking tabs.

Originally posted by Bizarre Keyboard Player WARNING OMG WARNING TEHRE ARE SPOILERS BELOW DONT SAY I DIDNT WARN YOUYes, Lenny's wife was raped but she survived. She was the woman in the Sammy Jenkis story, and he indeed was Sammy Jenkis. They (Teddy and Lenny) had killed the killer ages before the story takes place but Teddy uses Lenny to kill drug dealers and the like.Fantastic film, got it on DVD.

THANK YOU :)

Yeah, that's pretty much how I understood it too. You all seen Chris Nolan's "Following"? Nice little low-budget flick that plays with linear structure.

BUT---! If you really want some seamless mindfuck-inducing movies, I'd recommend Lynch's "Lost Highway" and "Mulholland Drive." Took me about 3 viewings each to figure those ones out. Absolutely brilliant, especially 'Mulholland.'

Yes, Lost Highway is very good especially the "I'm in your house ........how do you do that.....ask me" bit. That freaked me out. Mulholland Drive, I must admit though, lost me. And I really enjoy Lynch's films and Twin Peaks of course, but Mulholland Drive was way out for me.

Originally posted by Bizarre Keyboard Player WARNING OMG WARNING TEHRE ARE SPOILERS BELOW DONT SAY I DIDNT WARN YOUYes, Lenny's wife was raped but she survived. She was the woman in the Sammy Jenkis story, and he indeed was Sammy Jenkis. They (Teddy and Lenny) had killed the killer ages before the story takes place but Teddy uses Lenny to kill drug dealers and the like.Fantastic film, got it on DVD.

The DVD director commentary certainly calls into question whether you can believe Teddy's explanation of things.

I tried to watch MD for the first time over the weekend, but abandoned the effort after about 30 minutes out of overwhelming boredom.

Did you manage to get to the scene featuring some kind of pig man at the back of the store? - that was genuinely quite surprising.

MD was long, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Definitely worth pursuing to the end, where it goes skew whif.

Originally posted by Spotnick Gee, I sure didn't get Mulholland Drive at all when I watched it, it took me a few hours reading the comments on IMDB to figure it out.I'm not done for these type of movies, I prefer one you actually KNOW the ending at the end and don't have to think about it for a week.. ;) Like Sixth Sense..There are 10 clues given by David Lynch to decypher Mulholland Drive for those interested, once you have read them, you can clearly *SPOILERS, DON'T READ IF YOU DON'T WANT* know when the fantasy is on, and when it's reality...Good lesbian scene btw, that was.. unexpected (Sorry, I had to say it)

where are these clues? are they in the dvd packaging?

its one been thinking of getting & if it comes with the clues that may swing it

Originally posted by Huntsman Did you manage to get to the scene featuring some kind of pig man at the back of the store? - that was genuinely quite surprising.MD was long, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Definitely worth pursuing to the end, where it goes skew whif.

Do you mean behind the restaurant? Yes, that was acceptable, but I gave up during the scene with the director in a conference room and somebody taking a photograph of an actress out of an envelope.

I was never very keen on Twin Turbines in the 80's, and Moroccan Dribbler seemed more like it than any over Kenny Lynch film I'd seen in modern times. So I'm not sure why I liked it. I can't remember much about it other than it seemed very reminiscent of a made-for-tv film, so surprising your not keen Pastie.

I expect good things from The Matress Re-wired next week. I trust Mr. K Reeves, he is a curious gent.

Well, it was made for TV, wasn't it? For the next time it turns up on cable, can you give me a preview of one or two scenes that might keep me watching?

I'm sure that Mattress II will be a fine experience, despite the freeway surrounded by nothing but dirt.

P, let me tell you, the only thing that's now putting me off the Mattress Extensive is this fabled dirt track ride! - I feel almost cheated and I don't even know what road it is. I'm sure the Stravinski Brethren will have snaffled in a couple of sky scrapers and some mini-markets on the blue screen post-production. I can't imagine just a dirt track with zero background unless, unless this is an integral part of the Mattress - maybe they are deep within the Mattress riding on springs and tarpaulin?

I'm sure when your sat enjoying popping corn and corn chips and perhaps corn dogs and corn on the cobble you will simply fizzle with excitement at the dirt road segment.

But really, as somebody pointed out to me just last night, what's it all about anyway as the initial filmed ended with Neon completing all of his tasks admirably and he even mastered dodge bullet.

Its all a bit like Tron. Except you can sort of understand The Matrices.

Regarding Mucky Drive, I am unable to comment on any further scenes apart from some quite weird cinema experience at the end which had me both baffled and reaching for the lavatory paper.

It 'is' worth watching all of the way through, as it builds momentum until it peaks with a mighty criscendo of utter confusion. Truth accepted; the initial half-hour is a bit slow.

Never mind all that chippins, where's the review on Brian?

I am deeply ashamed and embarrassed to confess, H, that I have not yet watched Shaving again. I want to be able to give it my full undivided attention, and somehow the moment has not yet arrived.

I did watch Mattress I again recently, and it is quite difficult watching Teddy and the Elf Chieftain in this very different environment.

Well yes, it took us a while to appreciate the new mob boss 'Ralphy' in 'The Sultanas' recently. I think he is one of the characters you mentioned who appeared in Moment Man and The Mantra I.

Never panic about S P B ... likewise it took me a couple of months to pick up Intercops. Best savour it when you have a moment.

Perhaps you could scrawl 'Brian Saving Private watch to remember must I' on your forearm in black biro - it way prompt you when your next intending to shave utilising a mirror.

If you declare that SPB was not your cup of tea it would unfortunately ground our agreements to 1 - which was the decision to both enjoy LMA.

Well, as long as we agree on LMA, I think that's really all that matters, H.

I tried to watch The Soporifics for the first time recently, and I fear I failed.

SPR is sitting in the most prominent of my DVD piles, reminding me of its existence every day. I believe it's just under Donnie Doormat.

... what, literally?

There are very few tv programs I watch. One of them is The Sultans. I heard it was very good but only caught bits of pieces at the end of the first series, the following series I made sure I watched and after a couple I got quite into it. David Gandalph is exceptional as the leading mobster Terry Sultanas, as are all the leading protagonists of the gig. Ralph the Hollywood film star only came into it recently and his very whimsical hair followed sometime after in a bowl. I wonder if he is in the Matrix Duex? - probably selling his cakes to the highest bidder no doubt.

It is too much to get into at a fleeting glance, but it is excellent. My bird has now joined me in the viewing process and in fact it is on tonight which makes me warm with hunger. The other tv program I used to watch was NYPD Brown with Derek Franz the Streets of Frisco King. Unfortunately the new series (which has just started here in the UK) has been slotted 'after' The Sultanas at around 11.45pm which is far too late for a school night. A bit rubbish that, as it used to draw in about 3 viewers, if you include foxes as well as me and an inanimate object.

So there's The Superb Bananas and then there's only one other show I watch which was 'The Shield Pigeon' which finished a while ago. Hopefully that little egg chaser will be back later this year with the bald guy who is really a replacement for Derek Franz.

Of course the man who started it all David Caruso and his magical Lamp nicked off a while ago after NYPD hit the top spot. I saw him recently in a soft porn film. Not bad, I thought, for the once tough speaking NY cop. He had been caught with his trousers down, which isn't nesse-celery a bad thing.

I know that many people enjoy and admire The Baritones. Perhaps I hit it on a slow night. Do you know how much of a lag there is between here and there on a show like that?

DC apparently has a new series here. His decision to leave the streets of NY was just about as smart as what's-his-name's departure from X Marks the Spot to pursue his film career.

X Marks the Spot? - I am beaten.

Not sure of the 'lag' on The Satzumas Pastle, erm, the 'end' of the last series saw Ralph's nephew shot in the head and destroyed. The new series sees Paulie just getting out of prison.

I can recall only one slow Satzuma, but to a fan this was certainly no problem and only added to the smell of the room.

Best thing on tv for my money (sixpence).

Actually, the whole reason I mentioned that was in retort that in fact 'Mulligatawny Dip' over here is still a cinema/DVD event and not a cable only gig.

X Files.

Since I haven't watched The Barbershop Quartet, it's hard to judge the lag by current plot developments. My point was that quality might have declined, and the decline might not have reached you yet.

So you are promising me that Mulberry Heights picks up after the first half hour?

I suspect your job involves the practice of economic wordplay to deliver the succinct message P.

I cannot promise you anything anymore after previous suggestions missed their mark by almost the whole nine yards. What I can honestly tell you is that the film (if I recall correctly) really dragged for the first hour, which we suspected was a purposeful lull before the proceeding hours filtering in of sub-stories, plot development and conclusion and open-ended mystery.

Watch only if you wish to add another movie as baffling as Momento onto your pile of Digital Video Cassettes. In fact, possibly more so.

I'd say that it is worthwhile watching. Heavier than Daniel Darkman and harder to work out, even for a computer, 'but' it is progressively more captivating ... a bit like the career of Clint Eastwayne.

Actually I think I am considered verbose in my work-related writing, H.

So how many exciting hours are there after the slow first one? I suspect that instead of purchasing the DVD, perhaps it would be wiser to wait until it reappears on cable, in order to reduce the chance of waste. I'm not exactly a DL fan, after all.

No, I'm not myself. Although The Elephant Male seemed a faithful reproduction.

Yes, check out the cable playing P, all your spending is worrying. You may need to work an extra .3 of a second in August to replenish your stocks and share portfolio(s).

I surmise your colleagues are somewhat harsh if they describe your culinary skills as long-winded. Surely its a matter of ensuring the focal point is not missed? - you must find time to remind them that a long story told well is far more important than a short story rushed to meet a particular deadline.

Remember, there's no 'I' in team.

I definitely believe that it is better to be a bit repetitious than to risk having your point overlooked.

So have you gotten bored with Interplanetary yet?

No, its on my CD circulation at present. I'm fond of track 4. Can't recall titles yet. Track 1 is also good as is the curious slow one running at about 3 mins. until the end.

Incredibly set-back in the mix the vocals (aka Brotherhood? - anyone?) - I would be more keen if the singer was different (a bit harsh) - voice plays a lot on my interest in a band. Morrissey, Sumner, Lennon, Ian Brown, Donna, Blitson etc. - not certain the guy from IP is not a little, erm, I don't like to be derogatory. Music stands up, perhaps more than the voice? - maybe if his singing was either far better or far worse? - still, early days. Can't see any comparison with Ian Curtis - plenty of other bands to compare him with, JD's singer isn't one of them. After all, he doesn't sound anything like him!?

I struggle to find any new music I like, which is disappointing as I love music so much. But I'm not stuck in an era, I would happily take on board new talent if I liked it.

Although IP seem good, unless something changes I don't think they would turn great in my mind thus the album may drift away over time - whereas classics remain on constant play.

My expectations lay with Kate Bush's new album and the hopes of an album to rival Getting Things Ready by the good folk of Manchester.

Track 4 is the standout: title PDA, who knows why. There's a video for that one. The last 4 are good, particularly the last one, as you say.

I would not make any grand claims, but given the woeful state of music, it's at least something new to listen to.

The singer's voice is not outstanding, but it seems adequate for the task.

Of course I'd rather have something new from our pals, but you take what you can get.

the spanish rendition of 'cryin' by roy orbison, as performed by that lady in mulholland, was so beautiful it made me weep.

movie understood (i think) after an earnest ad hoc post-film discussion group meeting in the pub.

Agent Orange is absolute on the nose there. That is definitely a second-half highlight.

I tried to suggest that saying there was a good cinema bit but I was way off, I say way off.

Well done Woody, it almost made me run out immediately and purchase the Big O's hits.