The Country's Most Obsessive Smiths fan.

Not sure what anyone else thinks but that bloke sounds cool.

The mailman part?

'I have got a quiff, but it's quite small. I probably look silly, but I don't care'

It's the 'I don't care bit I like'.

Postman or train driver, its his attitude I'm fond of.

What is a quiff?

A quiff is what Elvis used to have flopping above his forehead, or alternatively what Morrissey sported heavily in the 80's.

I have a theory about post people; they are usually very good looking. Not wishing to flatter you Shugz because we've never met in the flesh tones. I would imagine you to look not dissimilar to a wolf man.

surely thats a dustman/waste operative though?

postman deliver letters, they ont go round picking up pieces of paper

Originally posted by ShugZV©
> Originally posted by Patrick> What is a quiff?>

Spunkstained Pubic Hair.

For some reason I like this answer better than the other one. And picking up bits of paper really is central to the picture.

Originally posted by Huntsman A quiff is what Elvis used to have flopping above his forehead, or alternatively what Morrissey sported heavily in the 80's.I have a theory about post people; they are usually very good looking. Not wishing to flatter you Shugz because we've never met in the flesh tones. I would imagine you to look not dissimilar to a wolf man.

He looks more like the fella in this picture, the one in the middle.

I had to call the refuse collectors to pay a special visit after a recent bathroom overhaul. This was meant to be a free service. You ring up the local thingies and state what you want them to remove. Anyway when they came at about 3am in the morning making noises like they were pulling the house down I had to blag them to take '1 item' that wasn't on the list. A toilet. I actually paid the bastard an extra tenner.

After I thought about it I should have shopped the little weasel because he wasn't very nice in the first place 'plus', he turned the bog upside down and left a trail of nuisance material in a line across our drive which I had to bleach and scrub up for about a month afterwards. Mind, if I rang to complain I would have had to have said, your boys have diddled me out of a tenner and they've left a trail of my own poo on me drive.

Wise Man, isn't that Bez from The Mondays?

Originally posted by Patrick > Originally posted by ShugZV©
> Originally posted by Patrick> What is a quiff?>

Spunkstained Pubic Hair.

For some reason I like this answer better than the other one. And picking up bits of paper really is central to the picture.

What is this paper picking deal? - didn't someone say this Smiths fan was a postman?

And isn't a ladies area called a quim and not a quiff?

Originally posted by Huntsman Wise Man, isn't that Bez from The Mondays?

You're twisting my melon man.

Originally posted by Huntsman > Originally posted by Patrick> > > > Originally posted by ShugZV©>
> Originally posted by Patrick> What is a quiff?>

Spunkstained Pubic Hair.

For some reason I like this answer better than the other one. And picking up bits of paper really is central to the picture.

What is this paper picking deal? - didn't someone say this Smiths fan was a postman?

And isn't a ladies area called a quim and not a quiff?

It's the phrasing, H: "picking up bits of paper" does indeed make it sound like someone picking up litter. He obviously loves his job.

I'm lost. And I can't be bothered to read the article again so I'll never know now. Was he a postman? - who picks up paper - Boy George?

Hanky Panky - I've just realised you were playing a gaff and that obviously Shuttle is either the one on the left or the gentleman on the right. Which alien being is it?

No - he is definitely a postal operative.

The mailmen over here don't conform to your theory, H. Is the phrase "going postal" used over there?

Originally posted by Huntsman Hanky Panky - I've just realised you were playing a gaff and that obviously Shuttle is either the one on the left or the gentleman on the right. Which alien being is it?

Spot the LOWEST common denominator.

Not around these parts. I've heard a rumour that the phrase 'go large' works well when ordering burgers and fries.

Played the Interpol passage around 3:08 on T4. The on-note-hold whilst playing subtle melodies of the verse and chorus works to moving affect. I can appreciate the music.

It did not bring me to the boil, but obviously such things are very personal. And T6 is the slow one I like. I am getting a bit more into them, but then I played Strangeways this morning and I'm still in a state of shock.

HW - its got to be the boy in the middle? - the middle man, the man in the middle. The Gelfling holding onto a can of pop.

Can he do any stunts?

Going postal refers to the surprising propensity of postal workers to take a gun to work and shoot large numbers of their coworkers.

I am pleased to hear that bit on T4 does almost as much for you as it does for me. The repeated note thing seems to be one of their signature items. I listened to T6 again last night and it was better than I remembered. What about T11? She doesn't know that I left my urge in the ice-box?

The siren package hasn't arrived yet.

There are some strange lyrics abounded throughout the album, I can't tell whether they are inspired or mere guesswork. Time will tell. As Run DMC said to David Nevens; 'Play it again Sam'.

The 'note-hold' move you like is very reminiscent of certain Joy Division songs. Its a very pleasing device and quite brave. I don't really know anything at all but it seems that bands in their infancy are more likely to take the brave step of relying on very, very simple methods to convey their music but alas as the popularity grows the music becomes more predictable.

Couple of examples (which you may find similar to IP and the reason you like that bit so much):

Run, the quieting string section just before the climax. Varnishing Paint Stripper, the synth-stop after the middle-8, the bit which has a total halt of everything but the synth line broken only by the rattle of the digital snare prior to the last chorus. LMA focuses on 3 notes on the same chord - the same as IP almost. i.e. the same note is repeated whilst the melody is sort of played around it. Actually, this happens almost all of the way through the song.

There seems to be an alarming amount of idiots gunning people down in America. Some lass from Texas told me it was because there were more people in America which is why it seems there are more shootings.

So why are there not more in China then?

Ban guns - its a start, and hardly a revolutionary idea. Remove the weapon and you can't shoot it. Some of these shootings seem entirely random so if the random gun is not around it cannot be shot. The right to bear arms is quite pathetic. Where do you stop, the right to own your own missile factory? - exactly what is the difference? - loss of life is irreversible.

Anyway, the only destructive thing our postman does is hand our letters to the wrong place consistently, but he is rather dashing.

I think "I left my urge in the ice-box" is brilliant. Of course "We have two hundred couches" has been much commented on.

I'm sure you're right about the law of diminishing braveness.

Have you listened to the Retro LMA yet?

I think you're right to note resemblances between LMA and PDA. Run is something I don't listen to very much. I will try to check out your points about that and VP.

I certainly favor banning guns, but I don't make the laws.

I do like their lyrics Pat - I'd noticed the couch line (I hadn't read comment on it) and the ice box. Have yet to make sense of it all though, it that's possible.

I don't want to spoil The Smiths chances Potential Pastie Consumer but really, if we're all very honest with ourselves, Morrissey's pen must have been blessed.

Life's so short, to fear being randomly gunned down is beyond comprehension; and its so utterly depressing it makes my skin crawl.

Remember, I love all - animals, minerals and certainly vegetables.

Different varieties of love? Do you have any recommendations for vegetables to go in soup, H?

Now, there are a lot of options P.

If I could suggest my personal favourite, which involves carrots. Now, once suitably prepared, the carrots somehow adopt a beautiful taste different to their native taste.

Unfortunately I only consume rather than prepare this particular appetiser (or main meal). My bird has the magical methods.

In short, a liquidiser puts pay to the initial carrot shape, which I think is then entered into a slow burning pan with vegetable cream and milk for about 20. Its an easy fix and great for cold nights which you will have never experienced unless a space craft blotted out the sun in the early nineties (the hey day of space alien sightings).

Potato can be either added to this (and squashed up) or prepared standalone.

So carrot soup and potato soup seem to make the best soup I've ever tasted with the home cooking touch. Beautiful, extremely healthy and great with granular fresh bread. Again quite fortunately, my bird prepares her own bread.

Hope this helps.

Would you like me to post the proper way of doing it P?

the soup that is.

Here is a little something P which may suffice if your feeling a little partial.

http://www.vegsoc.org/nvw/2003/carrotsp.html

Thanks for your tips on carrots and potatoes, H. Any recipe that requires strenuous preparation is out of the question for me, I'm afraid. Frozen carrots are one of my standard soup items, as are canned potatoes. Occasionaly I use baby food (liquified) carrots. One of my relatively recent ingredients is frozen chopped spinach, but unfortunately it seems to have now become impossible to find truly chopped spinach. Larger pieces are unacceptable. The one fresh vegetable that I am prepared to use is celery, which to my mind is delightful in soup.

Mmmm. I'll have to consult to see if celery has ever appeared on our soup night.

You've mentioned soup before which I presume is a foodstuff of choice quite regularly, perhaps mostly down to the fact its quite easy to prepare and quick.

Frozen vegetables are a new addition to our stock room, but they've found their own niche. I have read that FZV's retain more goodness than FV's.

We sometimes enjoy Chinese frozen vegetables as stir fry. Not sure if they can be obtained in Cincinatti but they really taste very good - borderline meat somehow. The trick with being a vege is to seek out food that is as tasty and juicy as, say, a steak. So anything near that is good. Although the Chinese vegetables aren't quite that (they are obviously different and wonderful in other ways) they do give a kick. An easy meal, veg. in a wok with oil for 20 mins. On the plate and on the couch with a fork.

I recently enjoyed crispy aromatic duck (a vegetarian version) and it was possibly the best vegetarian meal I had ever tasted. Imagine the original meat version, well, it tasted like that. They refused to offer me the recipe but the place was a renouned vegetarian joint with a good reputation. So no it wasn't actually duck (before you ask).

Mind, I rarely mention I'm a vege because people usually take the piss.

Be sure to stop by our house next time your passing P and your welcome to share a meal of only the finest home grown sloup, followed by something quite nice and glass of something special.

Many thanks for your kind invitation, H. Unfortunately, my passport has expired.

It is rather difficult to imagine vegetarian duck. I'm sure you appreciate that difficulty.

There are frozen sacks of Chinese vegetables in the grocery store I go to; perhaps I should try them in soup, which is my daily dinner.

Someone at my job who went to the first showing of The Mattress Reupholstered said it was a disappointment.

Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© > Originally posted by Huntsman> > Hanky Panky - I've just realised you were playing a gaff and that obviously Shuttle is either the one on the left or the gentleman on the right. Which alien being is it?> >

Spot the LOWEST common denominator.

WOW is that Fred West's doppelganger on the RHS

... interesting link Murv - it looks a bit like one of them pictures you develop and you think; who the hell was that guy!?

P - I'm sorry to hear that the Mansion Re-tiled is dog food. Was there any mention of the dirt track?

Shunter, your e-maker is sat in prominence on my desking type of top. I have not yet made it to the shops to extract a couple of E200's. Rest assured the task is at the forefront of my mind's eye and I do fully intend to dispatch the goodies in a special container.

Care to contribute to the soup discussion Steam Pudding? - surely the ShipShaper has a belter of a Scotch Broth pot for us all to enjoy and experience for the first time.

If not, just make something up.

I did not inquire about the dirt track, H. I admit it was a shocking omission on my part.

So, Shugsy, are both of those pictures really you? At around the same time? One of them looks younger to me.

Patrick, surely you are duty bound to relinquish our fears that the spacious filth slide run in Manton Evacuated is possibly the most exhilarating speed chase since Death Slide 4 starring Bomber Johns.

Originally posted by ShugZV©
> Originally posted by Patrick> I did not inquire about the dirt track, H. I admit it was a shocking omission on my part.> > So, Shugsy, are both of those pictures really you? At around the same time? One of them looks younger to me.>

The one with Bez was taken before the Liverpool gig in July 2001, the other was not long after a bunch of pals shaved my head - while I was bevvied at a party - that was taken before the Finsbury gig June 2002.....the guy on the left is Dutch Jim, then Me, Hanky and Benny McCarthy. Just out of shot is the famous ATR. The guy on the left of BEZ is my Uncly John (Larsson 7 on here) So yep - Guilty Yer Honour;)

Well, to my eyes, at least, the YOU in the indoor shot looks strikingly younger than the YOU in the outdoor shot; not that either one looks old, mind you.

After all these posts Al Jarvis hasn't even suggested a decent recipe for soup.

Do Londoners not eat soup? - I mean, how does he keep creative writing books if he has no access to tomato soup?

Originally posted by ShugZV©
Cheers dudely, Kez-bah was out with us that day as well, and one of her mates, or maybe even her sister said I looked about 16She also took a look at the Rocket, and said - should he not be in a home.....honest guv

16 is about what I would have said too, Shugsy. I take it you are in fact slightly more than that?

Originally posted by ShugZV©
> Originally posted by Grigori Rasputin, the Mad Mystic> so let me see if I've got this right...that mad bastard is 34, and he still lives with his parents???> > is that a common thing in Engerland???> > because a 34 year old living with the folks is a wee bit odd on this side of the pond???

Where the fuck did you get 34? or are you talking about someone else ya mad bast? and I've been in me own place for nearly a year Now don't be losing your rag mate!

I'm probably the "most obsessive Smiths fan" in Oconee County, and all I've got is Hatful of Hollow, The Queen Is Dead (she bloody well should be! Oops, wrong thread), the US version of The World Won't Listen (something to do with "Bombs", the title is) and the '95 Singles collection. My coz is just a little bit worse: He's got Mozza's solo efforts as well as the Smiths catalogue (I first exposed him to the Smiths and Joy Division, so I can't help but feel a little pride)

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by ShugZV©
> Originally posted by Grigori Rasputin, the Mad Mystic> so let me see if I've got this right...that mad bastard is 34, and he still lives with his parents???> > is that a common thing in Engerland???> > because a 34 year old living with the folks is a wee bit odd on this side of the pond???

Where the fuck did you get 34? or are you talking about someone else ya mad bast? and I've been in me own place for nearly a year Now don't be losing your rag mate!

Hey, hey guys.....is 23 considered to be an odd age to still be living with the parents (in my case, the grans)? You know, just wondering (might hurt my chances with the ladies, you know)

Originally posted by Grigori Rasputin, the Mad Mystic hmm...I think this may be about the third time that I've stayed on topic...and it was a very difficult thing to do...now what the hell were we discussing again???

The Smiths (I think, I just caught this thread when you and Shug were having a tiff)

Originally posted by Grigori Rasputin, the Mad Mystic > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> > > > Originally posted by Grigori Rasputin, the Mad Mystic> > hmm...I think this may be about the third time that I've stayed on topic...and it was a very difficult thing to do...> > > > now what the hell were we discussing again???>

The Smiths (I think, I just caught this thread when you and Shug were having a tiff)

Robert Smith and his family??? How boring....

I'd live with Robert Smith and his wife any old day. They could adopt me! Sure, it wouldn't be the most fast-paced life, but what do you expect from ol' Robert? Heavy drinking and hanging around cemeteries and hanging gardens and the like while reading Baudelaire and Camus isn't exactly skydiving, now is it? Hell, it's not even cricket. But, although he may not look like it, I'm sure he gets off the couch every now and then to go do SOMETHING.

so let me see if I understand this....this guy is 34, lives with his parents, AND is a postal worker....im afraid....the "smiths fan" part of it doesnt worry me, but the rest of it....RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY!!!

I clicked on this topic expecting a nice discussion about the works of the Smiths and Morrissey. Remind me never to be so naive in this bloody forum again.

If you are the lead singer in a Morrissey/Smiths tribute band (not me.. haha), does that make you an obsessive fan??

Originally posted by Grigori Rasputin, the Mad Mystic Tabs...the postal workers don't have free access to guns in England...so I don't think it's quite as bad as it would be if he lived in...hmmm...let's say Oklahoma...

...thank god!....can you imagin if he lived in Oklahoma too...I would be very, very afraid (and thanks for that Jeff, now I am going to have nightmares!)...besides, just because he cant get a gun does not mean he cant "go postal"!

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 I'm probably the "most obsessive Smiths fan" in Oconee County, and all I've got is Hatful of Hollow, The Queen Is Dead (she bloody well should be! Oops, wrong thread), the US version of The World Won't Listen (something to do with "Bombs", the title is) and the '95 Singles collection. My coz is just a little bit worse: He's got Mozza's solo efforts as well as the Smiths catalogue (I first exposed him to the Smiths and Joy Division, so I can't help but feel a little pride)

that would be louder than bombs - orange sleeve, different tracks to world wont listen though isnt it, repackaged, reissued......

Originally posted by Hibster > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> I'm probably the "most obsessive Smiths fan" in Oconee County, and all I've got is Hatful of Hollow, The Queen Is Dead (she bloody well should be! Oops, wrong thread), the US version of The World Won't Listen (something to do with "Bombs", the title is) and the '95 Singles collection. My coz is just a little bit worse: He's got Mozza's solo efforts as well as the Smiths catalogue (I first exposed him to the Smiths and Joy Division, so I can't help but feel a little pride)

that would be louder than bombs - orange sleeve, different tracks to world wont listen though isnt it, repackaged, reissued......

Yes indeed, quite like that one. I always found it interesting that the Smiths were very much a singles band, there's only about 4 proper studio albums. Anyway, "Louder Than Bombs" it is.

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 > Originally posted by Hibster > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> I'm probably the "most obsessive Smiths fan" in Oconee County, and all I've got is Hatful of Hollow, The Queen Is Dead (she bloody well should be! Oops, wrong thread), the US version of The World Won't Listen (something to do with "Bombs", the title is) and the '95 Singles collection. My coz is just a little bit worse: He's got Mozza's solo efforts as well as the Smiths catalogue (I first exposed him to the Smiths and Joy Division, so I can't help but feel a little pride)

that would be louder than bombs - orange sleeve, different tracks to world wont listen though isnt it, repackaged, reissued......

Yes indeed, quite like that one. I always found it interesting that the Smiths were very much a singles band, there's only about 4 proper studio albums. Anyway, "Louder Than Bombs" it is.

oh god yes, definitely a singles band mind you many people say the order are too but we know different about the gems on the albums so maybe smiffs fans think the same (there is a light was never a single & is a top track for instance)