The Smiths on the NME
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I have just read the free booklet on The Smiths from the NME, very good read through brekky![]()
He was a bit of a dick was ole Mozzer, but entertaining none the least
Some cracking quotes in the magazine. I didnae get into the Smiths till probably 91, I think the first album of theirs I bought was The Queen Is Dead, and the lyrics blew me away, Cemetry Gates has always been my favourite Smiths song since I heard it, closely followed by There Is A Light That Never Goes Out - a quintessential love song with Moz's magical lyrics. I have long owned all their albums, sooner or later I will get them on CD an all.
There's also a Top 20 list in it, I agree with a few... but here are my faves.....in no particular order...
Ask, Panic, There Is A Light, Cemetry Gates, This Charming Man, What Difference Does It Make, I Started Something, Bigmouth Strikes Again, Hand In Glove, Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now, Sweet & Tender Hooligan, Sheila Take A Bow, I Know It's Over.....
And that's just a wee list, maybe I don't give them enough credit sometimes. They certainly were a soundtrack to my youth for a year or two.....still not as good as the Order though:D
Slugfest Master, it made pleasing reading your above post. I'm happy you have stated Sharon Take a Bath as one of your all time 'faves, its a subtle classic that one. It came out as a single, about 3 of us bought it then it disappeared like a thief on a bike. So whenever you get chance try and do seminars on it. Intriguing brass fanfare beginning, possibly to encourage Sharon to finally take that bath?
What is your current position on the album 'Strange Whales out at Sea'? - thought it was a classic the first time I heard it and still think that to this very day.
I would list my favourite, but it would provoke owls.
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Pastie, that comic alternative goes way beyond the call of duty. Masterful.
But sadly no, I have not attended a sitting just yet to witness the mathematical precision required to re-furnish bedding. Although we did go out with that intention last weekend but ate too late and thus peeked too early.
This weekend is M day though P, and we will try harder to view TMR with gusto, and a great deal of M & M's, followed by P Corn and T.
Neat.
Although I'm still unable to submit my depression at your rather lacklustre attempts to 'get into' The Schmitz, it may be worth highlighting that Morrissey's middle name is actual your namesake. Surely that should inspire you, for god's sake?
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Well, H, I do feel that I owe it to you to listen to those CDs again. Which song is your very most favorite, the one that if I don't like it there's no hope?
Well now your asking.
I think your dalliance with The Smonkeys is already at an end. But bollocks to it.
Try these and then don't even bother to get back because I already know the horrific reality:
Please, Please, Please, Let me Get What I Prefer Cemetary Gateposts There is a Light that is constantly at full Pelt
(you can almost make out the bits I make up as they all seem to fall to lower case lettering) ...
I would like to hang my extensive hat on this one:
'Last Night I Dreamt that Somebody Loved Me'
If you do not like this one we're finished.
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Thanks for the recommendations, H. Remember, I do try to keep an open mind on things. After all, I gave MD a second try didn't I?
Strangle Her We Can is a classic Mr H, I remember going to France for a 2 week working holiday on me 17th Birthday, I carefully packed loads tapes, Smiths / New Order / Joy Division / Mondays.......and subsequently forgot to take me Boogie Box![]()
For two weeks I worked all over France building Mezzanine's with me mate Pat, I fucking hated it....I'm only wee and labouring for a living was not my idea of fun.....I constantly sang "I Started Something I Couldn't Finish" IRONY indeedy. Korma on a Girlfriend is also an all time fave of mine. I probably rate this as the best studio album of theirs, although Elizabeth is brown breed is magic an all, it'd be a close shave between them 2;) I may even dig out some of The Smiths stuff later. As for Sheila Take An E, I have this masterpiece on 7", but my collection is nowhere near complete. it's yours if you want it - just as soon as you send me yer blankety blanks:D
Originally posted by Patrick Thanks for the recommendations, H. Remember, I do try to keep an open mind on things. After all, I gave MD a second try didn't I?
go with how soon is now - if you dont like that thre is no hope
Originally posted by blackthorn me up > Originally posted by Patrick> Thanks for the recommendations, H. Remember, I do try to keep an open mind on things. After all, I gave MD a second try didn't I?>
go with how soon is now - if you dont like that thre is no hope
Thanks, I'll add that to the make or break list. What's with the new name, by the way?
Mr. Hicksty in disguise? - I'm pleased you raised that Mr. P, I thought I was discussing with a new soul.
How Soon is Now? - Somehow I cannot get my head 'round this one. I do like it, but I doubt it will make Patrick whistle. Saying that if its opposite to what I think then its probably a decent recc.
Nice to hear your short stories about building sea creatures in Spain Shuttle Feast. Its got to the stage where I am quite embarrassed at not dispacthing a modest couple of C90's in return for some beautiful 80's memories. I'll have to pull my finger outward and head towards town with a bucket and spade. I've kept your address, so at least I'm not to the stage of asking for that again. Yet.
I'm very heartened and vilified by your revelation that you also enjoy Stuntman Here we Ride. Its an outstanding body of work and its a belter to jump off the ramp with. They must have cleared the buses and then thought, oh well, at least we made a bastard before we receieved the applause.
Thanks for the offer on the Sharon take a Dive single, but I too bought it! - although I wasn't a big singles collector (I own about 1.5 million) this was a purchase. I was at the stage where I just went and bought the new Smiths song, in the same way I bought the New Order 7", 12", sticker and tacky badge (now you see Patrick won't get that reference).
Your right though Shunty Shuft Shuttler, oh yee of the Celtic clan of Tipsworthy, The Queen is Resting vs. Showjumping Ponies Clear the Bridge would be a hard call. Frankly Oscar Schindler vs. Stop me if you fear I am Repeating Oneself ... mmmmm.
Thing is, The title track off The Queen, is it me or is this the mildest song on the album? - with the rest corking like an exploding worm. Not that I dislike it, I just like the others loads and loads and loopings.
What about Mother, I can feel the soil falling over my head? ... its almost like a dream in which somebody decided to record a song which makes you so unhappy you break wind.
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Originally posted by Patrick > Originally posted by blackthorn me up> > > > Originally posted by Patrick> > Thanks for the recommendations, H. Remember, I do try to keep an open mind on things. After all, I gave MD a second try didn't I?> > >
go with how soon is now - if you dont like that thre is no hope
Thanks, I'll add that to the make or break list. What's with the new name, by the way?
it would ruin the whole it was january thread if i was to post again in my other name & take it over 1963 posts. as i had to set this account up when i was in amsterdam once i thought why not revive it in the meantime.
Originally posted by ShugZV©
Strangle Her We Can is a classic Mr H, I remember going to France for a 2 week working holiday on me 17th Birthday, I carefully packed loads tapes, Smiths / New Order / Joy Division / Mondays.......and subsequently forgot to take me Boogie BoxFor two weeks I worked all over France building Mezzanine's with me mate Pat, I fucking hated it....I'm only wee and labouring for a living was not my idea of fun.....I constantly sang "I Started Something I Couldn't Finish" IRONY indeedy. Korma on a Girlfriend is also an all time fave of mine. I probably rate this as the best studio album of theirs, although Elizabeth is brown breed is magic an all, it'd be a close shave between them 2;)I may even dig out some of The Smiths stuff later.As for Sheila Take An E, I have this masterpiece on 7", but my collection is nowhere near complete. it's yours if you want it - just as soon as you send me yer blankety blanks:D
And why would the French want wee Scottish lads to go building Mezzanines all over the place?
I don't get it! I thought this working Holidays were for humanitarian stuff in far flung places where toilett rolls are difficult to come by ![]()
Originally posted by blackthorn me up > Originally posted by Patrick> > > > Originally posted by blackthorn me up> > > > > > > Originally posted by Patrick> > > Thanks for the recommendations, H. Remember, I do try to keep an open mind on things. After all, I gave MD a second try didn't I?> > > > > >
go with how soon is now - if you dont like that thre is no hope
Thanks, I'll add that to the make or break list. What's with the new name, by the way?
it would ruin the whole it was january thread if i was to post again in my other name & take it over 1963 posts. as i had to set this account up when i was in amsterdam once i thought why not revive it in the meantime.
I see what you mean. It's too bad the post number isn't preserved somehow.
have you never seen auf weidesein pet? (never realised how tricky that was to spell before - & got it wrong then anyway)
shug must have been a plastic geordie before he was a plastic scotch bloke!
Originally posted by Budvar Huber
Originally posted by ShugZV©
Strangle Her We Can is a classic Mr H, I remember going to France for a 2 week working holiday on me 17th Birthday, I carefully packed loads tapes, Smiths / New Order / Joy Division / Mondays.......and subsequently forgot to take me Boogie BoxFor two weeks I worked all over France building Mezzanine's with me mate Pat, I fucking hated it....I'm only wee and labouring for a living was not my idea of fun.....I constantly sang "I Started Something I Couldn't Finish" IRONY indeedy. Korma on a Girlfriend is also an all time fave of mine. I probably rate this as the best studio album of theirs, although Elizabeth is brown breed is magic an all, it'd be a close shave between them 2;)I may even dig out some of The Smiths stuff later.As for Sheila Take An E, I have this masterpiece on 7", but my collection is nowhere near complete. it's yours if you want it - just as soon as you send me yer blankety blanks:D
And why would the French want wee Scottish lads to go building Mezzanines all over the place?
I don't get it! I thought this working Holidays were for humanitarian stuff in far flung places where toilett rolls are difficult to come by
It wasn't yer normal working holiday Budvar, I was in the sixth form at school, my mate left school after his exams and was raking in piles of cash, it was at the last minute someone dropped out, and my best mate Pat said that it was an absolute fuckin doddle doing the mezzanines.....lying bastard that he is
I gashed my left hand the very first day, so that kinda set the tone for the next two weeks. I have some happy memories of getting pissed on Ricard with several country types in Paris, trying to explain to them that we were NOT English, and that us Scots hated them more than the French....this earned us a few free drinks;)
We travelled all over, most notable places being Paris, Lille & Montpellier. We also had the President of the time pass us in his presidential motorcade, complete with police escort (I think it was Meterand who was the gaffer at the time) I wonder what he thought when he saw two young lads with Celtic tops peering out of a clamped out ole van looking to see what the fuck the noise was
Mr H, no hurry with the videos at all compadre - I'm kinda glad cos I'm in the middle of about 10 requests, it serves me fookin right for putting the videology on the site!
As for The Smurfs, please keep yer anecdotes comin - I'm havin a particularly shit day at work, and yer tales always bring a smile to me moosh![]()
Has anyone got the Best Of The Smurfs Video? I have Donovans......we will start the bidding at 10 English Pints then![]()
Originally posted by blackthorn me up have you never seen auf weidesein pet?(never realised how tricky that was to spell before - & got it wrong then anyway)shug must have been a plastic geordie before he was a plastic scotch bloke!
You spelt Auf Wiedersehn Pet wrong. One of me all time fave progs. I think if that lot had met Morrissey, OZ would have wasted him for being a big poof:D
Shady Shunter, I only have a few Smitzy anecdotes, well, one. And I've posted it here about 3 times so this'll be the 4th and hopefully not the last time.
I tried to get me pal into the Smuntz a few time until he final conceded in '87 (we were still relatively young around the age of 4,000). Anyways up, The Skids were booked in at the Boro Town Hall and all 5 of them were due to play a sell out. Lets get tickets, after all, Bottle Boro was only about 6mins. from our homesteads. No he said, no I don't like them enough. Well you can't argue with that kind of logistics.
Anyway it turned out that that Spuntz gig was one of their very last (all but 1 if I recollect collectively). And we missed it. The real stinger is the fact that me pal went on to become the world's most devout Spitz and Mozzer fanmail. And to this very day I always bang on about how cool we could have been attending that very gig when we was only just knee high to a grass hopping unit.
In an even stranger twist of inflatable, the other year King Monkey was playing at Hartlepuddle and me pal missed that bezzer n 'all.
I didn't, and I've got the T-shirt to prove it.
(I haven't really but you know what I mean - I wished I had bought a T-shirt now but that's another story).
Thinking about it I'm not sure you could even class that story as an anecdote its so mild. I should make something up in the middle next time I post it. Maybe something about a wolf chasing Mozzer up some stairs.
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Aaaah yes Mr H, I do remember that ole story now, I bet you were typing that with tears in yer eyes.
I actually listened to Laden Down With Farts last night, a superb compilation albert I'm sure you'll agree, I had forgotten how great Golden Wonder Crisps was as well, hauntingly jangly:D
I'm serious about selling Dons best of the Smurfs vid tho - I need every penny I can get for the rogue trip to the American![]()
i just listened to all four Smiths studio albums today in sequence...here's how i RANK them:
- Strangeways - absolutely perfect..Marr using synths behind Mozz's back...priceless!
- The Smiths - I'm shocked that i'm placing this second seeing how Queen is Dead has been my favorite in the past but listening to these songs today really brought back memories. Quality debut...made me wonder what is the best debut to come out of the Manchester groups...The Stone Roses? The Smiths?
- Queen is Dead - another nearly flawless album
- Meat is Murder - if it wasn't for the title track, this album would possibly finish second
they are all very good to excellent albums...i have a few Mozz anecdotes but they're too humiliating to reveal
... please, reveal them.
Hypnotic Love Wrangle, are you stating you dislike Meathane is Murderous? ... takes a while but it really is a top tune.
Remember, this beautiful creature does not necessarily require to be destroyed.
And the synths on Strange Whales, they are a welcomed inclusion as Marr executed the performance with his trademark aplomb.
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I think that Strangeways would be the best album, if death at ones elbow didnt ruin it. Paint a Vulgar picture is a classic and death of a disco dancer is even better.
I think the only way to settle the argument is to agree that all four albums are classic.
... it was. Somewhat more humorous than past interviews, open and light hearted even!
I detected an open plee for a record contract, perhaps the aim of the broadcast. It revealed a vulnerable side to Morrissey.
Was nice to see him, nonetheless.
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Well, H, How Soon Is Now was pretty good, although I realize it was the other Mr. H's recommendation, not yours.
Several of yours seemed not to be on the CDs I have.