Any voodoo-activists around here?

have a look at this:

Elite Force Aviator: George W. Bush - U.S. President and Naval Aviator - 12" Action Figure

:barf:

this is the most disgusting thing i've seen in a while...

I love the action figure! That's my Bush. If I wanted to practice voodoo I'd much rather have a Gray Davis figurine, or maybe one of Hilary Clinton, or better yet Daschle woul make a great figurine to torture

you are going to fit in so well in La Jolla...

Originally posted by Tristan Jayol I love the action figure! That's my Bush. If I wanted to practice voodoo I'd much rather have a Gray Davis figurine, or maybe one of Hilary Clinton, or better yet Daschle woul make a great figurine to torture

Damn straight!

See, Bush haters are just jealous that GWB is entitled to wear a flight suit. He WAS trained and certified as a jet fighter pilot in the Texas Air National Guard. (Note to Bush haters: I really don't need a rehash of all the speculation as to how or why GWB may or may not have avoided being sent to VN. He was a jet fighter pilot. His unit could have been called up at any time. Period.)

when did they send the national guard to viet-nam? wouldn't the guard responsible for the nation's security need to stay here, ya'know, guarding the national and all?

Originally posted by Sean Taugher you are going to fit in so well in La Jolla...

Hell yeah I will.

please drive a large SUV and consume as much gas as possible while you are there.

Originally posted by Sean Taugher when did they send the national guard to viet-nam? wouldn't the guard responsible for the nation's security need to stay here, ya'know, guarding the national and all?

GWB's squadron was on the list of those that could have been called up.

Bush flew with the 111th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron, which was attached to the 147th Fighter Wing, based in Houston, Texas. While Bush's unit never got called to Vietnam, the 147th was. From 1968 through 1970, pilots from the 147th participated in operation "Palace Alert" and served in Southeast Asia during the height of the Vietnam War. The 147th came off runway alert on Jan. 1, 1970 to start a new mission of training all F-102 pilots in the United States for the Air National Guard.

Bush enlisted as an Airman Basic in the 147th Fighter-Interceptor Group at Ellington Air Force Base, Houston, on May 28, 1968 - at a time when the 147th was actively participating in combat in Vietnam. However, one can not train overnight to be a pilot. Bush completed basic flight training and then, from December 1969 through June 27, 1970, he was training full-time at Ellington to be an F-102 pilot.

Bush volunteered to serve in a unit at the very moment it was seeing combat in Vietnam, and only a restructuring of the unit's mission before he completed his flight training made it unlikely he would fly in combat. And he was never AWOL - he completed his required service and even served beyond the minimum.

Originally posted by Sean Taugher please drive a large SUV and consume as much gas as possible while you are there.

And your problem with large SUV's is??????????????????

Originally posted by Sean Taugher please drive a large SUV and consume as much gas as possible while you are there.

actually I will be using public transportation and a bike while I'm at La Jolla, and are u Sean Taugher or Arianna Huffington in disguise?

Originally posted by Michael McDermott > Originally posted by Tristan Jayol> I love the action figure! That's my Bush. If I wanted to practice voodoo I'd much rather have a Gray Davis figurine, or maybe one of Hilary Clinton, or better yet Daschle woul make a great figurine to torture

Damn straight!

See, Bush haters are just jealous that GWB is entitled to wear a flight suit. He WAS trained and certified as a jet fighter pilot in the Texas Air National Guard. (Note to Bush haters: I really don't need a rehash of all the speculation as to how or why GWB may or may not have avoided being sent to VN. He was a jet fighter pilot. His unit could have been called up at any time. Period.)

Oh, so THAT's what they call alcoholic cokeheads in Texas- "Jet Fighter Pilot."

Originally posted by Michael McDermott > Originally posted by Sean Taugher> when did they send the national guard to viet-nam? wouldn't the guard responsible for the nation's security need to stay here, ya'know, guarding the national and all?

GWB's squadron was on the list of those that could have been called up.

Bush flew with the 111th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron, which was attached to the 147th Fighter Wing, based in Houston, Texas. While Bush's unit never got called to Vietnam, the 147th was. From 1968 through 1970, pilots from the 147th participated in operation "Palace Alert" and served in Southeast Asia during the height of the Vietnam War. The 147th came off runway alert on Jan. 1, 1970 to start a new mission of training all F-102 pilots in the United States for the Air National Guard.

Bush enlisted as an Airman Basic in the 147th Fighter-Interceptor Group at Ellington Air Force Base, Houston, on May 28, 1968 - at a time when the 147th was actively participating in combat in Vietnam. However, one can not train overnight to be a pilot. Bush completed basic flight training and then, from December 1969 through June 27, 1970, he was training full-time at Ellington to be an F-102 pilot.

Bush volunteered to serve in a unit at the very moment it was seeing combat in Vietnam, and only a restructuring of the unit's mission before he completed his flight training made it unlikely he would fly in combat. And he was never AWOL - he completed his required service and even served beyond the minimum.

Too bad he didn't just enlist in the military, and volunteer to serve in Vietnam- I guess they didn't tell him that was an option when he was in prep school.

Pass the needles, man...I'm a bit pissed off at the man myself...for moving so far left since the campaign.

But I'll try to score one of these anyway.

Time to put my Jerry Nadler Anti-Impeachment Action Figure up on E-Bay...pull on his jowls and he shouts "Sexual McCarthyism!" and cries real tears.

Where's a good Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld doll when you need one?

:D

The Dick Cheney doll is being stored in an undisclosed warehouse...

Originally posted by Gnu Odor The Dick Cheney doll is being stored in an undisclosed warehouse...

And the Rumsfeld is meeting with the Saddam action figure with kung-fu grip right about now :D

Originally posted by Michael McDermott > Originally posted by Sean Taugher> please drive a large SUV and consume as much gas as possible while you are there.

And your problem with large SUV's is??????????????????

excessive gasoline consumption.

the Hillary Clinton doll comes with a penis.

Gnu Odor hit it correctly, Bush has moved to the freaken Left since he took office. You Demos can bitch and moan all you want but Gore lost the election, lost his own fooking state. Now Bush is taking Democratic issues--healthcare for instance, and claiming it as his own.

IN RE SUVs. I really do not give a shit about gas milage, if you can afford it, buy it. But small cars suck ass. I know, I own a Tracer. But ever since I bought this here Jaguar XJ-S, 5.3l HE V-12, 14 to 20 mph, 155 mph top speed, in March, I have put maybe 20 miles on the Tracer. Small cars have shitty noisy rides. So do SUVs which is why I do not own one. Jags, on the other hand, smooth, quiet and fast. But with the necessity of replacing the mini-van as the family truckster, a SUV will be considered.

Until then, do not bitch at people that do not want to drive a POS disposable auto. Invent an alternative motor that we can use in the SUV.

Originally posted by Gazza > Originally posted by bLuE oRdEr> > > > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > > > > Originally posted by Sean Taugher> > >

Too bad he didn't just enlist in the military, and volunteer to serve in Vietnam- I guess they didn't tell him that was an option when he was in prep school.

now Blue...only fools volunteered to go to Viet Nam...I know, my father volunteered for 4 tours of duty...and he was a right daft bastard...it was a right nasty "war"...not knowing who the enemy was...does that little kid have a grenade strapped to his belly??? I wouldn't blame anyone for keeping off the ground...now just think about it...if this thing in Iraq came around...and after 6 or7 years, you had seen how awful it was on the telly...wouldn't you take any means necessary to stay out of that kind of stuff??

and think about it...which would sound cooler trying to pick up chicks...

"yo, babe, I fly a jet fighter" of

"yo, babe, I'm a grunt...I pound the ground"?

Agreed.

What gets me though, is the way those who are most vociferous about going to war are also those who make sure they don't go themselves. Example: There are some "homeless youths" in their early twenties here in PDX who went around picking fights with anti-war protesters during our last war, just to show their support for the war (and just to set the record straight, I didn't protest against the war. I wasn't even against it- then). Now, if these young men are so eager for war, and so eager to fight themselves, why aren't they enlisting? It just seems extremely hypocritical to me for these young men to be vociferously supporting a war, and beating up anti-war protesters, when they're too chickenshit to go themselves.

Same for pampered rich boys like GW. Don't want to go to war? Fine. Just don't go around shooting your mouth off in support of war, while you're hiding out here in the States, and pretending to be in the military.

I have a hell of a lot of respect for someone like John McCain, who put his body where his ideals were, and none at all for a big-mouthed candy ass like GW Bush.

Originally posted by bLuE oRdEr > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > Originally posted by Tristan Jayol> > I love the action figure! That's my Bush. If I wanted to practice voodoo I'd much rather have a Gray Davis figurine, or maybe one of Hilary Clinton, or better yet Daschle woul make a great figurine to torture>

Damn straight!

See, Bush haters are just jealous that GWB is entitled to wear a flight suit. He WAS trained and certified as a jet fighter pilot in the Texas Air National Guard. (Note to Bush haters: I really don't need a rehash of all the speculation as to how or why GWB may or may not have avoided being sent to VN. He was a jet fighter pilot. His unit could have been called up at any time. Period.)

Oh, so THAT's what they call alcoholic cokeheads in Texas- "Jet Fighter Pilot."

Actually, we call them "Ann Richards"

Originally posted by Michael McDermott > Originally posted by bLuE oRdEr> > > > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > > > > Originally posted by Tristan Jayol> > > I love the action figure! That's my Bush. If I wanted to practice voodoo I'd much rather have a Gray Davis figurine, or maybe one of Hilary Clinton, or better yet Daschle woul make a great figurine to torture> > >

Damn straight!

See, Bush haters are just jealous that GWB is entitled to wear a flight suit. He WAS trained and certified as a jet fighter pilot in the Texas Air National Guard. (Note to Bush haters: I really don't need a rehash of all the speculation as to how or why GWB may or may not have avoided being sent to VN. He was a jet fighter pilot. His unit could have been called up at any time. Period.)

Oh, so THAT's what they call alcoholic cokeheads in Texas- "Jet Fighter Pilot."

Actually, we call them "Ann Richards"

Hey I thought Texans xalled them Michael Irvin

Originally posted by twist Until then, do not bitch at people that do not want to drive a POS disposable auto. Invent an alternative motor that we can use in the SUV.

where is the incentive to invent this alternative? if what we have works for the short-term, and people are willing to shell out $$ for gas (increasing our dependency on foreign oil), why should any automotive company spend the time and money in research, production, and advertising? it is the people that don't want to drive your so-called "disposable" cars that are feeding into the system, and creating complacency on behalf of the auto industry.

Originally posted by Michael McDermott > Originally posted by Sean Taugher> when did they send the national guard to viet-nam? wouldn't the guard responsible for the nation's security need to stay here, ya'know, guarding the national and all?

GWB's squadron was on the list of those that could have been called up.

Bush flew with the 111th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron, which was attached to the 147th Fighter Wing, based in Houston, Texas. While Bush's unit never got called to Vietnam, the 147th was. From 1968 through 1970, pilots from the 147th participated in operation "Palace Alert" and served in Southeast Asia during the height of the Vietnam War. The 147th came off runway alert on Jan. 1, 1970 to start a new mission of training all F-102 pilots in the United States for the Air National Guard.

Bush enlisted as an Airman Basic in the 147th Fighter-Interceptor Group at Ellington Air Force Base, Houston, on May 28, 1968 - at a time when the 147th was actively participating in combat in Vietnam. However, one can not train overnight to be a pilot. Bush completed basic flight training and then, from December 1969 through June 27, 1970, he was training full-time at Ellington to be an F-102 pilot.

Bush volunteered to serve in a unit at the very moment it was seeing combat in Vietnam, and only a restructuring of the unit's mission before he completed his flight training made it unlikely he would fly in combat. And he was never AWOL - he completed his required service and even served beyond the minimum.

Triumph of the Wimp

Chickenhawks

Originally posted by bLuE oRdEr > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > Originally posted by Sean Taugher> > when did they send the national guard to viet-nam? wouldn't the guard responsible for the nation's security need to stay here, ya'know, guarding the national and all?>

GWB's squadron was on the list of those that could have been called up.

Bush flew with the 111th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron, which was attached to the 147th Fighter Wing, based in Houston, Texas. While Bush's unit never got called to Vietnam, the 147th was. From 1968 through 1970, pilots from the 147th participated in operation "Palace Alert" and served in Southeast Asia during the height of the Vietnam War. The 147th came off runway alert on Jan. 1, 1970 to start a new mission of training all F-102 pilots in the United States for the Air National Guard.

Bush enlisted as an Airman Basic in the 147th Fighter-Interceptor Group at Ellington Air Force Base, Houston, on May 28, 1968 - at a time when the 147th was actively participating in combat in Vietnam. However, one can not train overnight to be a pilot. Bush completed basic flight training and then, from December 1969 through June 27, 1970, he was training full-time at Ellington to be an F-102 pilot.

Bush volunteered to serve in a unit at the very moment it was seeing combat in Vietnam, and only a restructuring of the unit's mission before he completed his flight training made it unlikely he would fly in combat. And he was never AWOL - he completed his required service and even served beyond the minimum.

Triumph of the Wimp

That was some interesting hate speech. Thanks for sharing.

Originally posted by Michael McDermott That was some interesting hate speech. Thanks for sharing.

You're welcome. I assume you're referring to the "kick me" sign on Adolf?

Originally posted by bLuE oRdEr > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > That was some interesting hate speech. Thanks for sharing.

You're welcome. I assume you're referring to the "kick me" sign on Adolf?

It's also interesting how when you've lost the argument, you go right to the hate speech. Come on now, don't act the cowardly Texas Democrat senators who ran away to New Mexico. Take your beating like a man.

Originally posted by Michael McDermott > Originally posted by bLuE oRdEr> > > > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > That was some interesting hate speech. Thanks for sharing.>

You're welcome. I assume you're referring to the "kick me" sign on Adolf?

It's also interesting how when you've lost the argument, you go right to the hate speech. Come on now, don't act the cowardly Texas Democrat senators who ran away to New Mexico. Take your beating like a man.

Aren't you skipping a step, Michael? Like you actually winning an argument (whatever argument it is you're referring to) in order for me to lose the argument? And as I noted above, when you refer to me going to "hate speech," I assume you're referring to the "kick me" sign on Adolf?

where is the incentive to invent this alternative?

According to all the doomspeakers, the incentive is around. Make it affordable and have a good marketing campaign and it will sell. Use that LBJ add they used when he ran against Goldwater (nuclear war countdown in background). Or some fascist Pepsi ad from the 80s. "Buy this engine for your car or continue funding terrorists (insert latest photo of hamas suicide/jackoff bombing ).

But I do not need liberal do gooders and environmentalist telling me that I need to drive a Toyota Echo. Nor do I need them to have the government to jack up and tax the shit out of gas prices to force me into a shitty ulta-mpg car. Make a car that is of the same quality, roominess and performance with outstanding fuel efficiency or alternative energy source then I will purchase it.

Think "incentives" are needed??? No incentive to build the 64 1/2 Mustang and yet it broke all sales records. Marketing. Consumers are sheep. Why do you think the Ford Focus and Toyota Matrix sell so well?? Build a SUV that seats 7, hauls 10,000 lb and runs on hydrogen, keep the price below $30K and it will sell. (Insert mpeg of Saudis burning US flags.)

As far as disposible cars go, 99% of all cars are disposable, not just fuel efficient ones. Every car made in the US except the Corvette (74 thru 79 Nader Vettes excluded), some Mustangs and T-Birds are disposable. yep, even CAddy's are crap. I happened to find a keeper. BFD if it gets 16 to 20 mpg, its my $$$, my choice. I did not need Tipper Gore telling me what music to listen too, I do not need Al Gore telling me what to drive.