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A quick review:

THE CURE have announced they will release a four-disc box set featuring B-sides and rarities early next year.

The box set, entitled ’Join The Dots: B-Sides And Rarities’, covers the bands work from 1978 to 2001, and features 71 tracks, including covers of Jimi Hendrix’s Purple Haze, and The Doors’ Hello I Love You'.

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Just goes to show which is the superior band.

And now I'll prepare for my apartment to be firebombed... :nonono:

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Much of the Cure's output is New Order Recycled.

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(about the question of this thread) hmmm, yeah i know. but why keep suffering from that? i think Retro was their "best" shot at this moment in time. i wouldn´t expect too much until they finally broke up or retire or whatever. THEN we´ll have to worry if Mr. Hook starts pulling tapes out of his closet! are you saving money for that moment? :wink:

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Reminds me of a certain quote about Tolstoy and shopping lists, that surfaced Still-time.....

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Stinks of desperation from the Cure if you ask me. .. :evil4:

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Could we stop talking about The Cure here, please?

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okay...let's talk about Dexy's Midnight Runners instead...do they have a box set???

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Originally posted by Groove Jet okay...let's talk about Dexy's Midnight Runners instead...do they have a box set???

Yeah.It was only released in North America,Jeff :evil4:

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Well... Talking Heads are also releasing a box set, I think it's worthy.

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now if I could only get my hands on that John Denver box set!!!

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Totally agree with Al on this one, very desperate for any band to start doing boxsets. Afterall there is nothing new in half of them including the JD & NO ones to be totally honest. I notice that many are quoting other bands box sets, some in jest I know, but for me the only band that have really released a worthy boxset is Throbbing Gristle. This was 26 live shows so totally unique.

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I've got Julio Iglesias collection two weeks ago!! Who wants download of "solamente una vez" e "coracao apaixonado"?

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I'm waiting for the ultimate Loggins and Messina box set....:thumb:

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You north and south americans :nonono:

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Just give MAJOR a box...that will make him happy!:D

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but what girl is going to offer her box up to our Major???

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The one that ditched YOU!:laugh:

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Originally posted by Rocket Mick The one that ditched YOU!:laugh:

you reckon he could handle that many women at once???

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis Stinks of desperation from the Cure if you ask me. .. :evil4:

Actually Al, this project was started 5 years ago on The Cure's website, they did this because their fans asked them to do it....

They release a greatest hits only to get out of their recording contract, and now they can do whatever they want.

Right now they are doing exactly that, with the Trilogy concerts and the rarity boxset.

Imagine if you were a New Order fan and the band would decide to do 3 nights in Manchester doing PCL, Low-Life and Technique in 3 nights back to back, release a DVD of the full 3 shows, the release a Retro ONLY aimed at hardcore fans with all the rarities we always wanted...

I'm sorry, but THAT would please me... :D

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Originally posted by Grigori okay...let's talk about Dexy's Midnight Runners instead...do they have a box set???

Sure, let's!!!!!!!!!! :thumb: Actually, let's talk about the singer's solo album cover from a couple of years back, the startling My Beauty (might as well wreck this thread anyway.........) :evil4:

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Originally posted by Green > Originally posted by Grigori> okay...let's talk about Dexy's Midnight Runners instead...do they have a box set???

Sure, let's!!!!!!!!!! :thumb: Actually, let's talk about the singer's solo album cover from a couple of years back, the startling My Beauty (might as well wreck this thread anyway.........) :evil4:

I remember seeing a picture of him in Q or Mojo a few years back, all decked out in a skirt and high heels....and anyone who says I still have that picture is a dirty lier! :nonono:

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What pisses me off is the lack of video dvd by the band. They had a great chance with International and retro to release a dvd with it. Pet shop boys, Erasure, Duran duran are all releasing their videos on dvd. Depeche Mode have already released their videos 2 times now. With retro they could have released a reto 4 dvd set. (1st the videos. 2nd Rare and alternate videos. 3rd TV performances & Interviews. 4th Live concert footage from all the tours.) Now that would be a great dvd. Even Electronic should release a dvd with all their videos and the cities on the park concert which was recorded. That would be a nice finish to the band. Even Monaco/Revenge should do the same. I know some people have Potsey's E-mail. Why dont they ask?

well thats my 2 cents worth.

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Originally posted by Green > Originally posted by Grigori> okay...let's talk about Dexy's Midnight Runners instead...do they have a box set???

Sure, let's!!!!!!!!!! :thumb: Actually, let's talk about the singer's solo album cover from a couple of years back, the startling My Beauty (might as well wreck this thread anyway.........) :evil4:

okay...forget I mentioned it...that's a disturbing picture...for me at least...

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Originally posted by Jim "The Him" What pisses me off is the lack of video dvd by the band. They had a great chance with International and retro to release a dvd with it. Pet shop boys, Erasure, Duran duran are all releasing their videos on dvd. Depeche Mode have already released their videos 2 times now. With retro they could have released a reto 4 dvd set. (1st the videos. 2nd Rare and alternate videos. 3rd TV performances & Interviews. 4th Live concert footage from all the tours.) Now that would be a great dvd. Even Electronic should release a dvd with all their videos and the cities on the park concert which was recorded. That would be a nice finish to the band. Even Monaco/Revenge should do the same. I know some people have Potsey's E-mail. Why dont they ask?well thats my 2 cents worth.

my thought is this. if there´s something that new order never did is to put "all the eggs in one basket". why should they change that? they released international and retro when there wasn´t any news on the front. so i guess the dvd will come when no more singles are avaible of their forthcomming album, so they could include them. but they will do it. it´s just that making the numbers it could be later on 2005! :shrug:

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i didnt buy international. i already have substance, best-of, and the box set. i was actually disappointed in retro, with the exception of the live cd and remix cd, most everything else can be found on previous releases on cd. the cure box set at least is all bsides and a few remixes of singles, and they have plans to release the new album sometime next year. the only thing that bugs me is the re-issues of all the albums which will be digitally remastered and contain one extra track (most likely a bside). kamar

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Yes, I prefer the PSB's remastered albums...

Same CD + one CD of extra material from the same era...

Considering this, it could be even more valuable than Recycle..

Movement would have a 2nd disc with In A Lonely Place, Ceremony, Homage, Theme and whatever the demos you can find...

PC&L would have EGG, Procession, Temptation, Blue Monday, the Salvation tracks since it is said they were from these sessions...

Low-Life would have Thieves Like Us, Murder, Confusion, plus 12" versions & B-Sides of Perfect Kiss & Subculture.. even maybe the Elegia, though that would fill a CD...

Brotherhood with Shellshock, State of the Nation, Touched by the Hand of God and True Faith...

Technique with all b-sides, The Happy One

Republic with all mixes & Vicious Circle

Get Ready with remixes & Here To Stay & B-Sides..

Everything digitally remastered.. I would SURE buy that anytime they would do that...

(Sorry for the missing tracks, but you get the picture.. I have yet to find a spot for the 1994/1995 remixes)

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Originally posted by Spotnick http://www.nme.com/news/story.htm?ID=106732A quick review:THE CURE have announced they will release a four-disc box set featuring B-sides and rarities early next year.The box set, entitled ’Join The Dots: B-Sides And Rarities’, covers the bands work from 1978 to 2001, and features 71 tracks, including covers of Jimi Hendrix’s Purple Haze, and The Doors’ Hello I Love You'.

I think one bit that gets overlooked whenever a comparable band releases something like this (or Echo and the Bunnymen's box set from a couple of years back) is that New Order just weren't that prolific. You could probably put all their B-sides on one disc, their unreleased songs would take about 20 minutes and live they only did 3 covers (apart from Joy Division) that I know of: When I'm with you, Sister Ray, and the Ostrich. And those all sucked if you weren't there.

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Originally posted by robin > Originally posted by Spotnick> http://www.nme.com/news/story.htm?ID=106732> > A quick review:> > > > THE CURE have announced they will release a four-disc box set featuring B-sides and rarities early next year.> > The box set, entitled ’Join The Dots: B-Sides And Rarities’, covers the bands work from 1978 to 2001, and features 71 tracks, including covers of Jimi Hendrix’s Purple Haze, and The Doors’ Hello I Love You'.

I think one bit that gets overlooked whenever a comparable band releases something like this (or Echo and the Bunnymen's box set from a couple of years back) is that New Order just weren't that prolific. You could probably put all their B-sides on one disc, their unreleased songs would take about 20 minutes and live they only did 3 covers (apart from Joy Division) that I know of: When I'm with you, Sister Ray, and the Ostrich. And those all sucked if you weren't there. Don't forget Anarchy in the UK

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Originally posted by The Him Totally agree with Al on this one, very desperate for any band to start doing boxsets. Afterall there is nothing new in half of them including the JD & NO ones to be totally honest. I notice that many are quoting other bands box sets, some in jest I know, but for me the only band that have really released a worthy boxset is Throbbing Gristle. This was 26 live shows so totally unique.

I'm "happy" to have a box set w/ rare tracks on it, but TG did it right - something for the hardcore fans. If only the Order would follow suit.

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Originally posted by kamar khan i didnt buy international. i already have substance, best-of, and the box set. i was actually disappointed in retro, with the exception of the live cd and remix cd, most everything else can be found on previous releases on cd. the cure box set at least is all bsides and a few remixes of singles, and they have plans to release the new album sometime next year. the only thing that bugs me is the re-issues of all the albums which will be digitally remastered and contain one extra track (most likely a bside).kamar

My initial understanding is the the Cure re-issues next year will be similar in format to the PSB re-issues. Each LP having a second disc of rare tunes. Great idea, but what will be left to put on the second discs that wasn't on the "Join the Dots" box set?

An unconfirmed Cure rumor is that Mad Bob wants to release the entire Wembley '89 gig (from which Entreat was taken). I've been told that this would take up 4 CDs. Its just a rumor, but I'd like to see it happen.

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but what will be left to put on the second discs that wasn't on the "Join the Dots" box set.

from the early days they could release stuff like heroin face, desperate journalist, demo's, see the children. there are tons of easy-cure stuff out there. for the faith-17 seconds-pornography era they could release ariel, forever, and carnage visors. there were missing tracks from the bloodflowers sessions and lost wishes which was a cassette only release for wish.

i cant think of much else, the box set covers a lot, but i am hoping the above mentioned will be the bonus stuff for the re-issues.

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Best Boxset ever : Heart & Soul - Joy Division

Paid in 3 parcels with my credit card :(

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I agree with that. Heart & Soul is probably the best box-set I own. The concept is great and of course the short age the band recorded made it easy to build it.

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Originally posted by Tracey Spivey

My initial understanding is the the Cure re-issues next year will be similar in format to the PSB re-issues. Each LP having a second disc of rare tunes. Great idea, but what will be left to put on the second discs that wasn't on the "Join the Dots" box set?

An unconfirmed Cure rumor is that Mad Bob wants to release the entire Wembley '89 gig (from which Entreat was taken). I've been told that this would take up 4 CDs. Its just a rumor, but I'd like to see it happen.

Yeah Robert mentioned several times that he would like to release the complete third Wembley show from 1989. Which essentially is their greatest concert ever, with the best lineup. It would be fantastic if New Order remastered their albums with bonus tracks. It's just a damn crime that the original 7 inch mixes for Ceremony and Temptation are not on CD. Not to mention they could finally reissue some other 12 inches in their entirety (Perfect Kiss, etc)

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Talk about doing things right, I just bought my daughter the new Avril Lavigne dvd. And she did it right. It comes with a concert. A second live cd. All her videos, and a couple other things. And only 17.99 Cad. Now I just have to wait until Christmas to watch it.

That is what I think all bands should do after each cd. Release a concert dvd with all their videos from that cd, so you dont have to wait years to get them all.

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Originally posted by Jim "The Him" Talk about doing things right, I just bought my daughter the new Avril Lavigne dvd. And she did it right. It comes with a concert. A second live cd. All her videos, and a couple other things. And only 17.99 Cad. Now I just have to wait until Christmas to watch it.That is what I think all bands should do after each cd. Release a concert dvd with all their videos from that cd, so you dont have to wait years to get them all.

And you can't barely wait to watch. Confess it, Jim! :D :evil4:

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The Concert was on tv a couple of days ago, on Canadian tv, so I kinda already watched it :rolleyes:

It was badly filmed, but she does sound like New Order live. (Because like New Order she really does sing live)And there was nothing special about her concert. Just her on a plain stage, with a screen behind her

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Grrr, I was hoping the Cure wouldn't do this, I bet its all stuff I already have bootlegs of, and now have to face the dilemma of whether to fork out for it 'officially'. Probably I'll wait till its remaindered...

Anyway, where's the David Hasselhof box set, eh?

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The Cure had some good songs including Just Like Heaven, In Between Days, a Forest and the like. But even a greatest hists album from them, let alone a B-side event for cash, couldn't even measure up to even one good album like Low Life. Besides, they haven't put anything decent out in years. Mr. Smith must be hungry or something. Perhaps he is out of makeup !

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Originally posted by Cosmo The Cure had some good songs including Just Like Heaven, In Between Days, a Forest and the like. But even a greatest hists album from them, let alone a B-side event for cash, couldn't even measure up to even one good album like Low Life. Besides, they haven't put anything decent out in years. Mr. Smith must be hungry or something. Perhaps he is out of makeup !

You're lookin' to get real popular around these parts real fast, aren't you? :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope > Originally posted by Cosmo> The Cure had some good songs including Just Like Heaven, In Between Days, a Forest and the like. But even a greatest hists album from them, let alone a B-side event for cash, couldn't even measure up to even one good album like Low Life. Besides, they haven't put anything decent out in years. Mr. Smith must be hungry or something. Perhaps he is out of makeup !

You're lookin' to get real popular around these parts real fast, aren't you? :rolleyes: c'mon Churchy applaud the smart fellow :clap: ; he has some good sense, but I do have to say that I am starting to like The Cure which scares me, since I always detested them. I can't stop playing their catchy song "Lovecats"; and everything off Pornography sounds pretty damn good, but this is probably just a phase for me that I will grow out of. :p

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Originally posted by Tristan Jayol > Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope> > > > Originally posted by Cosmo> > The Cure had some good songs including Just Like Heaven, In Between Days, a Forest and the like. But even a greatest hists album from them, let alone a B-side event for cash, couldn't even measure up to even one good album like Low Life. Besides, they haven't put anything decent out in years. Mr. Smith must be hungry or something. Perhaps he is out of makeup !>

You're lookin' to get real popular around these parts real fast, aren't you? :rolleyes: c'mon Churchy applaud the smart fellow :clap: ; he has some good sense, but I do have to say that I am starting to like The Cure which scares me, since I always detested them. I can't stop playing their catchy song "Lovecats"; and everything off Pornography sounds pretty damn good, but this is probably just a phase for me that I will grow out of. :p

Or will be shot out of you..... :evil4:

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Originally posted by Reg Bumswizle > Originally posted by Tristan Jayol > Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope> > > > Originally posted by Cosmo> > The Cure had some good songs including Just Like Heaven, In Between Days, a Forest and the like. But even a greatest hists album from them, let alone a B-side event for cash, couldn't even measure up to even one good album like Low Life. Besides, they haven't put anything decent out in years. Mr. Smith must be hungry or something. Perhaps he is out of makeup !>

You're lookin' to get real popular around these parts real fast, aren't you? :rolleyes: c'mon Churchy applaud the smart fellow :clap: ; he has some good sense, but I do have to say that I am starting to like The Cure which scares me, since I always detested them. I can't stop playing their catchy song "Lovecats"; and everything off Pornography sounds pretty damn good, but this is probably just a phase for me that I will grow out of. :p

Or will be shot out of you..... :evil4: There should be a rehab forum for people like me that have strayed away from NO only to be taken advantage of the appealing makeup of Bob :evil4: . We need a 12 step program for Cure fans to help them.

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Originally posted by Tristan Jayol > Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope> > > > Originally posted by Cosmo> > The Cure had some good songs including Just Like Heaven, In Between Days, a Forest and the like. But even a greatest hists album from them, let alone a B-side event for cash, couldn't even measure up to even one good album like Low Life. Besides, they haven't put anything decent out in years. Mr. Smith must be hungry or something. Perhaps he is out of makeup !>

You're lookin' to get real popular around these parts real fast, aren't you? :rolleyes: c'mon Churchy applaud the smart fellow :clap: ; he has some good sense, but I do have to say that I am starting to like The Cure which scares me, since I always detested them. I can't stop playing their catchy song "Lovecats"; and everything off Pornography sounds pretty damn good, but this is probably just a phase for me that I will grow out of. :p Pornography's their best album, in my opinion, followed by Faith and Disintegration. Give those a listen and come to the dark side...

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Glad to see that most have come to their senses so far.

The battle has just begun. . .

:smoking:

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:nono::nonono::nono::nonono::shrug::scratch::nonono::nono::nonono::nono::evil4:

When we said "you need pornography" it was masturbation assistance literature that was meant, not the recorded load of wank from Fat Bob and his jolly band of troubadors !

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Originally posted by Reg Bumswizle :nono::nonono::nono::nonono::shrug::scratch::nonono::nono::nonono::nono::evil4:When we said "you need pornography" it was masturbation assistance literature that was meant, not the recorded load of wank from Fat Bob and his jolly band of troubadors !

He was not fat back then, just a little pudgy :evil4:

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And were his troubadours ever jolly? They must have just spent their time thinking, "Fuck, here comes fatso. Am I going to be sacked?".

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Originally posted by Spotnick THE CURE have announced they will release a four-disc box set featuring B-sides and rarities early next year.The box set, entitled ’Join The Dots: B-Sides And Rarities’, covers the bands work from 1978 to 2001, and features 71 tracks, including covers of Jimi Hendrix’s Purple Haze, and The Doors’ Hello I Love You'.

for those interested..

it's NOT an 'official' release, but i'm working on a 4-disc set for new order with 77 tracks on it..

see : http://www.neworderonline.com/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=11853

(the thread about international_2)

later

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Originally posted by death of art And were his troubadours ever jolly? They must have just spent their time thinking, "Fuck, here comes fatso. Am I going to be sacked?".

Those thoughts are why the band members never stay in the band :evil4:

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Originally posted by Cosmo Glad to see that most have come to their senses so far.The battle has just begun. . .:smoking:

Does exist a british Columbia?? Is the President Paul Escobar? :evil4:

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Originally posted by Server Error in "/" Application > Originally posted by Cosmo> Glad to see that most have come to their senses so far.> > The battle has just begun. . .> > :smoking:

Does exist a british Columbia?? Is the President Paul Escobar? :evil4: Yes and yes.

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Yes, we exist.

No he isn't. But he might win if he ran.

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