Are New Order rubbish?? — Forum Archive

1 Dec 2003, 12:51

My girlfriend is not impressed by New Order, but then again she is 21. :nuts: What age group has the most NO fans, I would say the late thirties possibly. When I went to the Finsbury Park festival everyone looked so - well - my age :(

1 Dec 2003, 13:41

Didn't we have a poll on this recently? Anyone got a link?

1 Dec 2003, 15:06

I'm almost 20 and very impressed by NO. Then again, you ask most 20 year olds who NO is, and they'll be like "Who?"

1 Dec 2003, 15:09

Originally posted by Michael Jackson played with Mr. Disco I'm almost 20 and very impressed by NO. Then again, you ask most 20 year olds who NO is, and they'll be like "Who?"

Then you mention Blue Monday to the 20 year old, and they respond "Oh, that song by Orgy" :shrug:

1 Dec 2003, 15:11

I lent 'substance' (a good beginners CD) to one of my 14-year-old students today. If he learns anything this year in my class, and if I have any effect on his life....

1 Dec 2003, 15:46

New who?

1 Dec 2003, 16:51

Who are rubbish? never heard of them

1 Dec 2003, 18:10

My son is 6 years old (almost 7) and he is a major New Order fan! :nod:

1 Dec 2003, 19:57

Yep - the poll is called 'New Order fan - age group poll'. Most fans are in the 30-35 age range from memory (alzheimers considered).

1 Dec 2003, 23:06

Originally posted by Dark Angel My son is 6 years old (almost 7) and he is a major New Order fan!

That's good, introducing him to such good music. The first pop music tapes my parents owned were Marr's "pump up the volume" and a Janet Jackson album from 1992, and it never grew on my. Thank my good taste of music.

1 Dec 2003, 23:18

My first exposure to music was a free Bon Jovi tape being handed out at a Best Buy store in the early nineties

2 Dec 2003, 05:11

Originally posted by Dark Angel My son is 6 years old (almost 7) and he is a major New Order fan!

that is quite impressive :D id be careful though, expose him to too much new order and by the time he hits his teens he'll be leading anti-new order rallys at trafalgar square, stopping traffic and posting leaflets of hooky naked with the word NO! printed over it on bemused punters windscreens

2 Dec 2003, 05:53

http://www.neworderonline.com/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=6642

thought I'll do Ricardo's bit for him :laugh:

2 Dec 2003, 06:48

yes they are.

2 Dec 2003, 06:51

Yes. They are rubbish at maintaining websites and providing information for people.

2 Dec 2003, 06:51

Of course NO isn't rubbish. But their are 2 problems with their music.

neither of their songs are the same. So its hard for people to recognize them. Listen to ceremony, temptation, blue monday, confusion, thieves like us, perfect kiss and so on. All these songs could be from different bands. The beauty of it is , that guys went through a creative evolution. Only so few recognize that.
the other problem is that there are a lot of songs which are not good enough.

2 Dec 2003, 06:52

Originally posted by Nanne a.k.a. SkullCrusher 2) the other problem is that there are a lot of songs which are not good enough.

Such as ?

2 Dec 2003, 07:05

Well, yes, of course they're rubbish - that's the point, isn't it!?!?!?!?!?!?

2 Dec 2003, 14:11

Yeah their crap, but hey bum notes, changed lyrics it all made a great live experience.

So sad that Barney now needs an auto cue

Mike

2 Dec 2003, 14:33

Originally posted by Yes. They are rubbish at maintaining websites and providing information for people.

Agreed...

2 Dec 2003, 17:33

i'm 17, 18 next month and i've like them since i was about 16. NO and JD is pretty much all i listen to. i hope they bloody tour soon :)

2 Dec 2003, 18:30

according to my mother i have no taste in music whatsoever, so yes they must be crap. they're no streisand!

3 Dec 2003, 07:25

took my time & they took my money...

3 Dec 2003, 12:30

As for touring or new music - don't hold your breath! :nono:

3 Dec 2003, 12:38

Originally posted by Nanne a.k.a. SkullCrusher 1) neither of their songs are the same. So its hard for people to recognize them. Listen to ceremony, temptation, blue monday, confusion, thieves like us, perfect kiss and so on. All these songs could be from different bands.

I disagree entirely. Yes, New Order have released some diverse sounds, but surely you can spot one of their records a country mile off? Hooky's bass especially, and Barney's vocal, are inimitable.

3 Dec 2003, 16:58

Disagree with what? :scratch:

Reasons why New Order rule:

Blue Monday 586 This Time of Night Cutee Gillian in Perfect Kiss Video Rubbish Confusion video Rubbish performance of Blue Monday on TOTP Technique (all of it, the artwork, the singles everything!) World Special NOT Spooky True Faith 94 artwork Hacienda No Hacienda Money No Money Money again Ibiza NOT Brutal Video 586 (obscure but brilliant) Crystal Billy Corgan 60 MPH video Retro (except Ceremony!) :p

3 Dec 2003, 20:18

The BM TOTP performance was not rubbish.. and neither was the confusion video.

6 Dec 2003, 15:36

NO !!!! NOT Rubbish at all!

(Well, maybe that song with the insipid lyric "I would like a place I could call my own,... to have a conversation on the telephone....blah blah blah "....

OTHER THAN THAT track - New Order are THE BEST MUSIC Group ever , well, ...maybe just after the Beatles, that is,...

http://www.crocshop.com

6 Dec 2003, 16:49

Er ... I think you mean Regret. Which is one of the better singles. Although not my favourite from Republic. That honour goes to World! :nod:

6 Dec 2003, 20:08

Originally posted by TemptationStockport i'm 17, 18 next month and i've like them since i was about 16. NO and JD is pretty much all i listen to. i hope they bloody tour soon :)

Damn! And I thought that I was the youngest...

7 Dec 2003, 09:41

I still prefer the live gigs

7 Dec 2003, 22:50

they're definitely not rubbish!

i'm 41 and have been a fan since i was 21...i don't think age matters as long as the music is good

8 Dec 2003, 09:48

I've often pondered this possibility as I've met far too many people who thought NO was absolute garbage, even knew someone who threw away his Thieves Like Us 12" single that he got for his Birthday! Over the last decade through all the different phases the only constant music in my life has been NO, they better not be rubbish!!! :shrug:

8 Dec 2003, 17:03

Interesting thought. I have never thought they were rubbish even though this thread was titled as such. I guess Sunrise nearly made me think so - that song hurts my ears!!! :eek:

8 Dec 2003, 18:23

Originally posted by John Collis Interesting thought. I have never thought they were rubbish even though this thread was titled as such. I guess Sunrise nearly made me think so - that song hurts my ears!!!

Wow and I thought I was the only one that didn't like Sunrise! :D

9 Dec 2003, 16:01

I have hated it since I first suffered it! :(

9 Dec 2003, 16:32

"Are New Order Rubbish??"

Golly - what sort of a dumbass question is that?? Excuse me but I wouldn't consider them rubbish if you've been a crazy fan of theirs for over 20 years now! :)

9 Dec 2003, 16:44

I don't think you read my initial thread properly. I definitely don't think they are rubbish. But too many people do! :nono:

9 Dec 2003, 16:58

Originally posted by John Collis I don't think you read my initial thread properly. I definitely don't think they are rubbish. But too many people do!

But perhaps you will not find these people on a New Order forum...

10 Dec 2003, 05:21

Thats the problem with long threads, they seem to lose the jist a little. :nonono:

10 Dec 2003, 17:36

Originally posted by John Collis Thats the problem with long threads, they seem to lose the jist a little.

Actually John we're quite capable of losing the jist on a fairly short thread too...

10 Dec 2003, 18:37

Originally posted by Ronald Kirsch Who are rubbish? never heard of them

I think it's that band Shirley Manson's in :love:

12 Dec 2003, 16:39

So are New Order garbage then? :scratch: I like Garbage anyway - think Shirly and Bernard duet on the cards? :skeptic: