HELP required please!

I need some further information for the project I am working on.

1. What year did PH marry Mrs Merton?

2. What was the name of the tall, slim, dark haired chick who roadied for him on the Technique tour? (She was also at the Cambridge Revenge gig)

3. Does anyone have any photographs of the NO show in Portsmouth in 1984 (especially Barney on stage)?

4. Can anyone give me the name of the guy who promoted the same tour which started in Sunderland and ended at Heaven?

5. Can anyone give me the surname of DECLAN who used to promote certain shows in the early 1980's.

6. Does anyone here have contact details of anyone who used to be in the STOCKHOLM MONSTERS? (I got to know the drummer quite well on the USA 1989 Technique tour and he later worked for Revenge but I have failed in my attempts to contact him 14 years later)

Many more to come but I would appreciate some help!

Cheers. DM

Originally posted by David Molyneux I need some further information for the project I am working on.1. What year did PH marry Mrs Merton?

Am pretty sure it was sometime in 1994, possibly 1993. It was definitely after Miss Aherne was famous (the interviews with Hooky in Mick Middles' book are from 1995, and they'd been married for a wee while by then.)

As for Stockholm Monsters, it might be worth contacting James Nice from LTM (the label having fairly recently reissued a few of their albums), as I'd imagine he'd have been in touch.

I'll leave the rest of the questions to the usual suspects who are more knowledgeable than I when it comes to NO...

The 84 tour was promoted by Final Solution Music, although I don't know the name of any individual involved.

EDIT

Stockholm Monsters can be contacted thus: tony@stockholm-monsters.freeserve.co.uk

Originally posted by Old Blue The 84 tour was promoted by Final Solution Music, although I don't know the name of any individual involved.EDITStockholm Monsters can be contacted thus: tony@stockholm-monsters.freeserve.co.uk

Cheers for the info. I was already aware of the general name of the promotors as I have it on the Access All Areas pass I have. I have already explored the company I cannot find them. I was selling the posters from St Austell onwards (hence the Laminate) and I used to chat the 'main man' on a regular basis before and after the shows. I sincerley hope that this issue is not a dead end as 10 minutes with this chap would help me on my quest big time.

Before I approach the email is the Tony in question TONY FRANCE? as I had the opportunity of spending a few days in his company when we were 'friends' with the Strugnell sisters who had moved up from Plymouth to Maidstone in 1984. The girls were truly hardcore and were basically everywhere I used to be in the glory days including Germany in the same year. The last I heard of 'Kim' was later that year when she was lined up to be married and I lost touch. She had some amazing stories including a specacular one which occured after the Heaven show and had elements of 'Hook' and 'Pils'. Speaking of Dave Pils is he still on the Stockcar racing scene in the UK?

Anyway, there is a significant story relating to the Stockholm Monsters and an ex-boyfriend of one of them and my reason for wanting to contact the band is related to this. It was a little 'raw' at the time so hopefully now I will be able to approach the issue with a little more perspective and clarity.

DM

I'm assuming it's Tony France. I got that address off http://www.stockholm-monsters.freeserve.co.uk.

Without digressing too much, I passed a car crash on the way home from that Portsmouth gig, and I gather you were involved! My then girlfriend's brother had picked us up, showing off because he'd just passed his test. The combination of never having driven in the dark before and seeing that twisted metal meant he never got above thirty all the way back!!

dm. i hope this project sees the light of day as it will be some read. hope it involves lots of stories circa 84-87 simply the best time ever to have followed new order. good luck

Originally posted by Old Blue I'm assuming it's Tony France. I got that address off http://www.stockholm-monsters.freeserve.co.uk.

That's what I assumed until I noticed the very similar design to the The Wake official site http://www.thewake.freeserve.co.uk/and it's email contact was tony@thewake.freeserve.co.uk.

Incidently, the SM site has a where are they now section which may help locate the drummer. Unfortunately before I noticed this I'd already told SM Tony how good I thought they were at the Hull Adelphi club (turnout - 7 people)

Good call on the name of the bass roadie and thanks for the photo. It sure brings back some memories of all those gigs here in north America. I can still remember Hooky and her them pulling up to the Santa Barbara show in 1989 in a yellow convertible Corvette. Very smart.

I was in a car behind the crash incident on the way back from Pompey and the whole episode seems surreal thinking back. Awful stuff.

The project I am working on is primarily based upon the USA 1989 tour but find myself digressing backwards. The basic reason for this is to add depth to some of amazing stuff I experiences I was afforded to see, hear, drink and on more than one occasion, sniff.

I can remember one evening after the gig in Phoenix when the call was to make my way to the venue for the aftershow party. It was never tough to get pretty much anything during the whole experience with an access all areas pass together with an English accent.

I took a ride with a couple of guys I met backstage and within no time at all we were in side. The place was on the large side with lots of smaller rooms to disappear into.

The beauty of 'being with the band' (thanks once again Rob RIP) was that drinks in those places were ALWAYS free. On this occasion it was a courtesy of an ultra-violet design on the face of my right hand. So every time I went to the bar all I needed to do was to say hi with my right hand and anything was mine. You could say it was YET ANOTHER Melonball experience and from drink 1 it was very much that.

There were also other 'substances' which were also laid on at the wave of a finger and that night at Phoenix was no exception!

By the time it 1AM I was nothing less than bolloxed and found myself in one of the back rooms sitting and chatting with Barney. He knew full well that I was well and truly cained and I can remember him laughing as he asked me how I was getting on.

By far the funniest aspects of the evening however had to be when the autograph hunters found us and started asking for autographs. Most of the Americans did not seemed too bothered to sit and chat with him so once they had grabbed their squiggle from Barney I anticipated them leaving but several of them would not quit until they had MY autograph as well! I told them quite clearly that I was NOT in the band but they were quite insistent that I sign their 'Technique' and 'Substance' album covers! Quite amazing. So somewhere out there in the Arizona area there are several album covers with my autograph on them no doubt reducing their Ebay value by about 99%.

Plenty more where that came from!

DM

Hey Dave

Are you writing Hooky's biography ?

Originally posted by David Molyneux Good call on the name of the bass roadie and thanks for the photo. It sure brings back some memories of all those gigs here in north America. I can still remember Hooky and her them pulling up to the Santa Barbara show in 1989 in a yellow convertible Corvette. Very smart.I was in a car behind the crash incident on the way back from Pompey and the whole episode seems surreal thinking back. Awful stuff.The project I am working on is primarily based upon the USA 1989 tour but find myself digressing backwards. The basic reason for this is to add depth to some of amazing stuff I experiences I was afforded to see, hear, drink and on more than one occasion, sniff.I can remember one evening after the gig in Phoenix when the call was to make my way to the venue for the aftershow party. It was never tough to get pretty much anything during the whole experience with an access all areas pass together with an English accent.I took a ride with a couple of guys I met backstage and within no time at all we were in side. The place was on the large side with lots of smaller rooms to disappear into.The beauty of 'being with the band' (thanks once again Rob RIP) was that drinks in those places were ALWAYS free. On this occasion it was a courtesy of an ultra-violet design on the face of my right hand. So every time I went to the bar all I needed to do was to say hi with my right hand and anything was mine. You could say it was YET ANOTHER Melonball experience and from drink 1 it was very much that.There were also other 'substances' which were also laid on at the wave of a finger and that night at Phoenix was no exception!By the time it 1AM I was nothing less than bolloxed and found myself in one of the back rooms sitting and chatting with Barney. He knew full well that I was well and truly cained and I can remember him laughing as he asked me how I was getting on.By far the funniest aspects of the evening however had to be when the autograph hunters found us and started asking for autographs. Most of the Americans did not seemed too bothered to sit and chat with him so once they had grabbed their squiggle from Barney I anticipated them leaving but several of them would not quit until they had MY autograph as well! I told them quite clearly that I was NOT in the band but they were quite insistent that I sign their 'Technique' and 'Substance' album covers! Quite amazing. So somewhere out there in the Arizona area there are several album covers with my autograph on them no doubt reducing their Ebay value by about 99%.Plenty more where that came from!DM

quite simply, this is great stuff...and I hope we get to read more of it.

Is that GUIN NESS on the stacks? :-)

Is that GUIN NESS on the stacks? :-)

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--Sam

Originally posted by The Happy One Is that GUIN NESS on the stacks? :-)

looks like it.

GUITAR NERO - one of his finest efforts !

ouch..that sunburn

I hereby christen Al Jarvis 'PI' as he has only gone and found one of the girls I was looking for from 1984! She had short, bleached blonde hair in those days and Kim Strugnell was her name and for a period she was in a relationship with Tony France from the Stockholms. Although her, her sister and a couple of friends lived in Plymouth you would see them everywhere and there is one particular story from a show up in Scotland at Stirling which always makes me chuckle. Finding her is a treat as it means I do not need to pursue the Stockholm Monsters for the information I am looking for. Now I have found her I live in hope that I can get hold of her sister. Now, she HAS some stories I can tell you!

Al Jarvis PI you are a star.

DM

There is no direct email address for her or indeed a specific location where she may actually be.

What I have done is sent a variety of emails with kimstrugnell@ and kim_strugnell@ her company etc. Hopefully one should hit the mark and get through to her. I will obviously let you know what occurs.

I can remember funny incident which initially occured at th Bradford gig in early 1984....I first met them on the trip to Frankfurt later that year and it was really quite bizarre when they pulled out a photo they had taken at the gig and it was taken at an angle that ONLY had me and the band in it! Really quite extraordinary when you consider the chances of that happening and of course us actually meeting up! I was rather keen in those days and used to do all I could to get down the front.

I know her and her gang used to take a ton of shots at every gig they went to so fingers crossed she still has access to them.

DM

You bloody * Al Jarvis.

I have sent her a message and hopefully I should get a reply today. I included a link to this site so fingers crossed she will become involved first hand and tell you all the glossy stuff herself.

DM

Contact has been made with both Karen and Kim and although they do not have any photographs first hand they are I believe still in contact with their bloke mate who was extra busy with his camera during the first part of the 1980s.

Fingers crossed he will have that elusive Bernard Sumner on stage at the Portsmouth Guildhall 1984 photograph I so long for. Again, if anyone here has one please let me know.

There are a couple of other chaps which I am keen to locate. They were brothers and came from the Hedge End area of Southampton and were at many a show during the same period. I believe the last time I saw them was at The Zap club in Brighton for the Revenge gig in 1989. One of the brothers was in the ilk of David Byrne and they were at the Factory show at The Riverside Studios with Quango and 52nd Street in 1984? I know for a fact that these guys had some serious recordings and photographs so to find them would be a big plus.

I got stoned for the first time in about 20 years last night and to say the experience was surreal is an understatement! How I made my way back in the motor up from Palm is anyones business. DM

An out and out Saints fan which I do remember was quite a small chap with the classic east Midlands Bum Fluff Tash. I am pretty sure I first met him during the trip to Frankfurt and was at quite a few gigs all over the UK afterwards. He was also at one or two Stockholm Monsters shows in London (yep, I hold my hands up to those)

Speaking of the Frankfurt trip does anyone remember (or indeed know) two blokes from the Windsor/Slough area who had upper arm NO tats? I can also remember a lad from Slough called Shane who looked like he grew his hair for a living....or a laugh. He was always in the company of his mate Steve and I never did truly thank them for the lift to Margate in 1984.

DM

dm. what the fucks an east midlands bum fluff tash.?? i take great offence being east midlands born and bred..now wheres my razor

did you do notts palais in 84 or was the facial hair just to much for you.

Originally posted by PAUL TROWELL i take great offence being east midlands born and bred

Why do you take offence at being born in the east Midlands?

Ah yes Notts Palais. Like something from Moulin Rouge if I remember correctly, and the venue was pretty much the same. One hell of a heave-ho when NO came on.

The gig was part of a 3 leg 'mini-tour' which initially took in Birmingham and eventually Bristol and my Y reg Astra was more than suitable for me and John Marsh (soon of the Beloved) but you never see any lyrics with reference to the event do you? If one can not get inspiried by the interior of one of those then what the hell else is there?

An excellent 3 legger and a prelude to the Sunderland to Heaven tour which came a few months later in August

New Order in 1984 were the Super Supreme of bands and I hardly missed a gig that year.

DM