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Hello all! hey this might be the wrong forum to post this on... but i'd really love some info... does anyone kno the story behind the symbol on the cover of the first 'Blue Monday' release? The one that looks a little like a seperated 'female' symbol? Mwah!
Originally posted by Michaela Nutt Hello all! hey this might be the wrong forum to post this on... but i'd really love some info... does anyone kno the story behind the symbol on the cover of the first 'Blue Monday' release? The one that looks a little like a seperated 'female' symbol? Mwah!
Someone will be along quite soon, experts a bit like British buses 'round here, go a while without one and then at least two at the same time,
Anyway, hello and welcome .
By the way, would you happen to know the collective height of New Order , in fathoms ? Toodle pip. :D
Originally posted by Garymac > Originally posted by Michaela Nutt> Hello all! hey this might be the wrong forum to post this on... but i'd really love some info... does anyone kno the story behind the symbol on the cover of the first 'Blue Monday' release? The one that looks a little like a seperated 'female' symbol? > Mwah!
Someone will be along quite soon, experts a bit like British buses 'round here, go a while without one and then at least two at the same time,
Anyway, hello and welcome .
By the way, would you happen to know the collective height of New Order , in fathoms ? Toodle pip. :D
Including Chris Lowe?
we may have to wait a little longer Miss , experts like British buses , a tad unpredictable :D
Originally posted by Michaela Nutt Hello all! hey this might be the wrong forum to post this on... but i'd really love some info... does anyone kno the story behind the symbol on the cover of the first 'Blue Monday' release? The one that looks a little like a seperated 'female' symbol? Mwah!
It was supposed to look like a 5.25" floppy disc, Saville saw one at the studio when Blue Monday was being recorded.
Must admit, I thought everyone knew that!! ;)
Originally posted by Old Blue > Originally posted by Michaela Nutt> Hello all! hey this might be the wrong forum to post this on... but i'd really love some info... does anyone kno the story behind the symbol on the cover of the first 'Blue Monday' release? The one that looks a little like a seperated 'female' symbol? > Mwah!
Youngsters eh? I remember the 8" disks!!!
It was supposed to look like a 5.25" floppy disc, Saville saw one at the studio when Blue Monday was being recorded.
Must admit, I thought everyone knew that!! ;)
Why weren't the the videos for "Run" and the original 1982 version of "Blue Monday" shown at all?
Michaela has just entered the forum, and she's 21. She was probably 4 or 5 years old when the last 5" floppies were still around before being replaced for good by the actual ones. Of course you can understand why she didn't recognized them...
Originally posted by Midnight Blue Why weren't the the videos for "Run" and the original 1982 version of "Blue Monday" shown at all?
I don't think Blue Monday's 1983 track had an official promo video?! I think it was just some thrown together footage. The first real video was Confusion - or so you would of thought as the first track on the Substance 1989 video is that one!
BTW does anyone know whether Thieves Like Us had a video?
Told you Michaela , no experts at all, then a rush of them.
Yet all pretty silent on the fathoms front 
Originally posted by Garymac Told you Michaela , no experts at all, then a rush of them.Yet all pretty silent on the fathoms front
How many fathoms?
Everything you needed to know fathom wise was there for almost ten minutes Slippy, also details of saturdays expected guest list in fathom type code of course . chin-chin
Originally posted by Mick Aneworderfan Michaela has just entered the forum, and she's 21. She was probably 4 or 5 years old when the last 5" floppies were still around before being replaced for good by the actual ones. Of course you can understand why she didn't recognized them...
Her age and whether she's seen one is not the point! That explanation has been given a million times, all I'm saying is that it's probably number one on the list of "Well Known Facts" about New Order. OK, maybe number two after their names...
Originally posted by Garymac Everything you needed to know fathom wise was there for almost ten minutes Slippy, also details of saturdays expected guest list in fathom type code of course .chin-chin
So that was Barney and Hooky then, plus at least two of the Mondays, Johnny Marr and Andy Rourke ?
Originally posted by Garymac Everything you needed to know fathom wise was there for almost ten minutes Slippy, also details of saturdays expected guest list in fathom type code of course .chin-chin
Where does this guest list info come from?
Our Gary is involved with the Mancunian inner musical sanctum, he's given us enough pointers before.....
Scratch Hooky from the earlier list.....
And allow for the unreliability factor as previously mentioned. I'll be stage right , Mrs garymac further back , she likes the BOTW, it's more of a reunion with some of her mates ,though she may have a little bop
Gary can you mail us please re. gigs in Manchester ? Nowt to do with New Order, not after privy info.
Sure, but do you mean gigs to watch or gigs for yourselves to play ? Or both, sorry to be a bit muddled .
Gigs for us to play, I need to know the names of the people I need to send demos to, whether there are any promoters who cover a range of venues or whether I need contact individual venues direct, that sort of thing. I've been doing the London homework, but don't know as much about the Manchester scene.
Right , I'll put something together and get it to you, I'd like to have a chat with some old mates first, about any pitfalls as well as decent stuff. One of the guys I used to do a lot of stuff for has moved to Belgrade to build a network of small to medium venues up, he'd have been ideal for your purposes 'cos he covered Liverpool as well. However I wont throw a patchwork of stuff together and fob you off with that, I'd rather take my time if thats okay , I know Bolton / Farnworth has a couple of pub venues which are well supported, couple of guys out of squeeze were there recently, be nice to have a date in M/cr and follow it with something like that, to balance the cost and logistics out. So a lack of e-mail dont mean I've forgotten, but I'd be happy to help
much appreciated.
Originally posted by Old Blue
Her age and whether she's seen one is not the point! That explanation has been given a million times, all I'm saying is that it's probably number one on the list of "Well Known Facts" about New Order. OK, maybe number two after their names...
*Let's say number 50 or something. :D I've read about it only a couple of times, so no wonder if someone else hasn't. Not every New Order fan has such a wide knowledge and they must not be afraid of asking easy questions...
Originally posted by Mick Aneworderfan Originally posted by Old Blue
Her age and whether she's seen one is not the point! That explanation has been given a million times, all I'm saying is that it's probably number one on the list of "Well Known Facts" about New Order. OK, maybe number two after their names...
*Let's say number 50 or something. :D I've read about it only a couple of times, so no wonder if someone else hasn't. Not every New Order fan has such a wide knowledge and they must not be afraid of asking easy questions...
If anyone's really desparate for a real 5.25" disk I have crap loads of them!
Originally posted by almanso another NOStory question:why was Hooky surrounded by those transvestite fellas?
Because it was funny, considering he was sitting there talking about how he was always perceived as a drunken womanizer or some such stuff.
Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope > Originally posted by almanso another NOStory question:why was Hooky surrounded by those transvestite fellas?
Because it was funny, considering he was sitting there talking about how he was always perceived as a drunken womanizer or some such stuff.
yeah, it was funny indeed, and it sure made an interesting contrast between hooky´s figure and the transvestites. but.... WHY? 
Originally posted by almanso > Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope> > > > Originally posted by almanso> another NOStory question:why was Hooky surrounded by those transvestite fellas?
Because it was funny, considering he was sitting there talking about how he was always perceived as a drunken womanizer or some such stuff.
yeah, it was funny indeed, and it sure made an interesting contrast between hooky´s figure and the transvestites. but.... WHY?
I guess that was his fancy - just to be the opposite background to the New Order image. After all I like Gillian's background.
I didnt realise there were 2 versions,i have the vid that came out. Whats the other version,is it shorter/longer?
Originally posted by steve52 I didnt realise there were 2 versions,i have the vid that came out. Whats the other version,is it shorter/longer?
The US one was shorter, but added the video for Run2.
There was apparently a video for BM83. I've only ever seen it once. It was on the Shit man and Whore, on the occasion they did it at fac51. And what a show that was. For those not familliar with it "the hit man an her" featured Pete-i gave the world big fun-waterman and michela strachan going round the poncey lightweight trendy clubs of old londinium. It featured awful music( often from Mr waterman's PWL label), brightly lit clubs, crap dancers, and the sort of grown-up kids party games you expect to find on a club 18-30(IQ) holiday. THEN they went to the hac. LOL It went like this.... OK Pete, we'll host your show, but...... You have NO say in the music, it'll be our normal Dj for the night. Your mics are not getting plugged into the sound system. You can play your fucking games in the Bogs. No lights, no dancers, you can contend with 25 strobe lights in a black aircraft hangar, and some E-fueled freaker, barney dancing on a podium. It was awesome, the music was actually quite good, and they played the BM video, which looked a lot like another of Steve's "let see what this mac can do" exercises, bearing a resemblance to video586. If anyone has this on tape(the show not just the vid) PLEASE tell me, I'll send you lots of money/sleep with your ugly daughter etc...... I've worn my tape of it out.
PS. Run2 was probably missing cos of all the BS about it sounding like a John Denver tune, OK it DOES, but then back to life by soul2soul is smoke on the water, adn they got away with it.
Originally posted by Slippy > Originally posted by Midnight Blue> Why weren't the the videos for "Run" and the original 1982 version of "Blue Monday" shown at all?
I don't think Blue Monday's 1983 track had an official promo video?! I think it was just some thrown together footage. The first real video was Confusion - or so you would of thought as the first track on the Substance 1989 video is that one!
BTW does anyone know whether Thieves Like Us had a video?
The original Blue Monday video is featured on the video 'Factory Shorts' You can see the cover HERE
It features war film footage and dodgy 'Space Invaders' computer graphics and I was told that it was the result of a very bored Steve Morris playing with an editing suite.
As for Theives Like Us - I don't know of an 'official' video at all.
Hope that helps.
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Originally posted by ct001 XXX
"Sexual Chocolate cries when he sees your beautiful face." --Sexual Chocolate
The original Blue Monday video is featured on the video 'Factory Shorts' You can see the cover HERE
It features war film footage and dodgy 'Space Invaders' computer graphics and I was told that it was the result of a very bored Steve Morris playing with an editing suite.
As for Theives Like Us - I don't know of an 'official' video at all.
Hope that helps.
I was under the impression the first official NO video was the horrible Confusion one all the videos i have seen before this date have been tv performances or taken of that early Taras Shevchenko video
Where were 'Ceremony' and 'Temptation'(82) taped at? Were they taken just from TV shows, or they were from regular New Order concerts?
Anyone knows where one can take those videos complete?
Originally posted by Aleph Do it eBay
That's the only way I got the 140 minute version :D
FINALLY found a copy of the DVD at the usual place to buy these things in Portland, they've had all of the other NO stuff before, but this was the first time ever for NOS. Got the version w/out the Japanese subtitles as well, so I'm happy with that. Yes, I can also add that this thing needs to be re-released!!!!!
Originally posted by Texas Hooligan Where were 'Ceremony' and 'Temptation'(82) taped at? Were they taken just from TV shows, or they were from regular New Order concerts? Anyone knows where one can take those videos complete?
Ceremony was taken from New Order's first ever TV appearance. It was on a programme called Celebration the show played 6 LIVE songs (although more were recorded, and some had to be recorded twice) Celebration on Granada TV 18-6-1981 Dreams Never End, ICB, Chosen Time, Denial, Ceremony & Truth.
Temptation 82 was taken from a programme called Riverside, Chosen Time was also aired. This was aired 4-1-1982.
Originally posted by Green > Originally posted by Aleph> Do it eBay
FINALLY found a copy of the DVD at the usual place to buy these things in Portland, they've had all of the other NO stuff before, but this was the first time ever for NOS. Got the version w/out the Japanese subtitles as well, so I'm happy with that. Yes, I can also add that this thing needs to be re-released!!!!!
Good find 
Bought this on VHS when it first came out, but would jump at the chance to get a DVD copy as the picture quality on a 15 year old video cassette will just go from bad to worse... 
I have no idea whether what I purchased is playable in all regions, or if it's N. America only, but I'm glad I found it. The cover, for those who may want to look for it in their various parts, is a rather crappy reproduction of the Low-life photos on the front, and a few misspellings in the tracklisting on the back, but the quality is quite good indeed. Keep yer eyes peeled.
[uote]Originally posted by Chris Nash > Originally posted by Slippy> > > > Originally posted by Midnight Blue> > Why weren't the the videos for "Run" and the original 1982 version of "Blue Monday" shown at all?>
I don't think Blue Monday's 1983 track had an official promo video?! I think it was just some thrown together footage. The first real video was Confusion - or so you would of thought as the first track on the Substance 1989 video is that one!
BTW does anyone know whether Thieves Like Us had a video?
The original Blue Monday video is featured on the video 'Factory Shorts' You can see the cover HERE
It features war film footage and dodgy 'Space Invaders' computer graphics and I was told that it was the result of a very bored Steve Morris playing with an editing suite.
As for Theives Like Us - I don't know of an 'official' video at all.
Hope that helps.
Thieves Like Us never had a video.Shame
