TBTHOG - oh yes of course i was!

Originally posted by Dutch Jim says: NO! And the Touched by the Hand of God 12" is really marvellous, old chap!

apart from the fact it was given the most unimaginative title in history! "Touched by the hand of dub" - ooh how inspired

Jim, I assume that is the same as the 3-track CD?

Actually, in a strange coincidence, NewOrderWeb.com claims that Touched is "from the album Substance."

Originally posted by Keeper Of The Major Key They should do a concert like blur did the other year and play all the singles in order.

Better still, they should do what the Pixies once did and do the set literally backwards - starting with the encore, then walk off stage, if only to see the looks of barely concealed outrage on all the punter's faces.... that would be priceless indeed.

Talking of "Touched By The HOG" - wouldn't it be a scream if New Order dressed up and performed this song live just like they did in that bonkers video?? Think about it! Imagine the sight of them doing that!!! I'd definitely pay the ticket price alone to see that re-enacted for our panty-wetting amusement.

Originally posted by Keeper Of The Major Key They should do a concert like blur did the other year and play all the singles in order.

Better still, they should do what the Pixies once did and do the set literally backwards - starting with the encore, then walk off stage, if only to see the looks of barely concealed outrage on all the punter's faces.... that would be priceless indeed.

Talking of "Touched By The HOG" - wouldn't it be a scream if New Order dressed up and performed this song live just like they did in that bonkers video?? Think about it! Imagine the sight of them doing that!!! I'd definitely pay the ticket price alone to see that re-enacted for our panty-wetting amusement.

Originally posted by Keeper Of The Major Key They should do a concert like blur did the other year and play all the singles in order.

Better still, they should do what the Pixies once did and play their entire gig literally BACKWARDS, beginning with the encore and then walk off stage, if only to see the barely concealed looks of outrage from the punters. That should be a joy to behold!

Talking of "Touched by the HOG" I'd like to see them perform this live just like they did in that bonkers video for it - all dressed up in their spandex spinal tap excess - I'd pay the admission ticket alone just to see that . Just imagine what a priceless moment that would be - purely for our panty-wetting amusement!!! ha ha ha

[A small aside: These bastard servers are pissing me off - just LOOK at what happened above! initially led to believe that the post didn't go thru, I retype it totally after resetting the fucking machine, only to find that it DID appear after all, TWICE! Fucking Basatard shit!! That makes me MAD! It happens every fucking sodding day this malarkey - uurrrrrrgggghhh ]

So Martin, your number of posts should actually be divided by three, then, eh? :D

Well, must admit: 900/3 is still a lot!!

Martin, you been 'busing the board again?...nah, just kidding.

Yeah, a "encore first- walk off and see who stays" concert would be great, the real NO fans would know enough to stay. Perhpas what they could do is a trail through their old hits for all the new "fans" for an hour, then take a 30 minute break and do album tracks as an encore for the real NO junkies.

As far as doing JD songs live, they're really the only band with enough latitude to pull it off (nevermind the aforementioned "JD 2000" of a few threads back), but it would be nice to leave room for more surprises (ie Novelty, These Days, and Warsaw would be nice alternatives)

I think TBTHOG is a great song however I have heard a couple of live versions which have sucked.

Martin, when you get an error message, minimize the current window, open a new window and check the forum to see if your message posted. Save yourself some stress. After the 2001 hit parade is over, New Order should play a handful of request only shows where they play what the audience shouts.

Originally posted by Brian Geoghagan Martin, when you get an error message, minimize the current window, open a new window and check the forum to see if your message posted. Save yourself some stress. After the 2001 hit parade is over, New Order should play a handful of request only shows where they play what the audience shouts.

Mucho thanx for your tip Brian...I'll try that next time.... As for your "request" suggestion.....that's so open to abuse it's not true! Just imagine if some wag shouted at Barney to play "Agadoo" or something equally naff and ridiculous.!!!!

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 Martin, you been 'busing the board again?...nah, just kidding.Yeah, a "encore first- walk off and see who stays" concert would be great, the real NO fans would know enough to stay. Perhpas what they could do is a trail through their old hits for all the new "fans" for an hour, then take a 30 minute break and do album tracks as an encore for the real NO junkies.As far as doing JD songs live, they're really the only band with enough latitude to pull it off (nevermind the aforementioned "JD 2000" of a few threads back), but it would be nice to leave room for more surprises (ie Novelty, These Days, and Warsaw would be nice alternatives)

The bloody Fall walk off every other song these days !! I saw the Pixies do that once, can't remember where now though. Anyone remember the Bunnymen when they did Stratford RSC Theatre in 83? They did two sets, a Matinee and Evening set - and just reversed the order of the 20 songs. Top entertainment all round.

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 Martin, you been 'busing the board again?...nah, just kidding.

Yeah, a "encore first- walk off and see who stays" concert would be great, the real NO fans would know enough to stay.

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Hang on, New Order did that once !! Was it Montreal 83 or something ? Played 5 songs, ending with the short version of Blue Monday, then came back 5 mins later and did another 7 or so, starting with the full version of Blue Monday.....

Originally posted by Mark E-uh Bloody Smith-uh > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> Martin, you been 'busing the board again?...nah, just kidding.> > Yeah, a "encore first- walk off and see who stays" concert would be great, the real NO fans would know enough to stay. > > b]Hang on, New Order did that once !! Was it Montreal 83 or something ? Played 5 songs, ending with the short version of Blue Monday, then came back 5 mins later and did another 7 or so, starting with the full version of Blue Monday.....

I'm sorry, that was very sad of me to remember that ! Nearly got it all right too.....

The gig was indeed Montreal Spectrum 5 July 1983. They did 6 songs, then went and came back another 7. Each set of songs ended with Blue Monday, the short version in the first set then the long version in the second set. The short version of Blue Monday cropped up several times on that tour. Excellent quality audio tape available from every show (7 songs only at Trenton, and no I'm still not parting with Chicago Metro :))

Originally posted by Martin Gray > Originally posted by Brian Geoghagan> Martin, when you get an error message, minimize the current window, open a new window and check the forum to see if your message posted. Save yourself some stress. After the 2001 hit parade is over, New Order should play a handful of request only shows where they play what the audience shouts.

Mucho thanx for your tip Brian...I'll try that next time.... As for your "request" suggestion.....that's so open to abuse it's not true! Just imagine if some wag shouted at Barney to play "Agadoo" or something equally naff and ridiculous.!!!!

The Bunnymen did that as well (no, not play Agadoo :D). At Glastonbury 85 they went on stage without a setlist and just did what people shouted. Played Do It Clean 16 times and fucked off :)

TBTHOG is one of my faves, and although i agree it hasnt got the same balls as it used to have, it was still great live.

I loved it when it first came out. I remember taping it off my 7" and playing it on my walkman over and over again... bless...

As for the video.... when i first saw it I almost shat myself laughing. Hooky is a fooking rock god in that vid.

Liv

Originally posted by Mark E-uh Bloody Smith-uh > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> Martin, you been 'busing the board again?...nah, just kidding.> > Yeah, a "encore first- walk off and see who stays" concert would be great, the real NO fans would know enough to stay. > > b]Hang on, New Order did that once !! Was it Montreal 83 or something ? Played 5 songs, ending with the short version of Blue Monday, then came back 5 mins later and did another 7 or so, starting with the full version of Blue Monday.....

I checked the 'Tours & Concerts' section and you seem to be right, MarkE, look :

1 In A Lonely Place
2 Chosen Time
3 Your Silent Face
4 Temptation
5 Dreams Never End
6 Blue Monday
7 Cries & Whispers
8 The Village
9 Thieves Like Us
10 586
11 Age of Consent
12 Everything's Gone Green
13 Blue Monday

I just thought maybe I should tell you all this.

Quite a few of my uni friends who are not NO fans really thought NO is not poking fun in the TBTHOG video, they thoght NO is really a semi-heavy metal/hard-rock band like Bon Jovi!!! with all those spandex and haircuts!!!...and Gillian in that Joan Jett look!!!!

Yes, that's the problem with the Touched video; if you don't know NO, you won't know it's a joke.

... well if you want to call it a PROBLEM?

it's big fun :D

Well, yes, DJ, that is another way of looking at it.

Sorry but you have to be pretty stupid to not think it's a joke when you listen to the actual song which isn't metal by far...

By the way, Klumpy, I noticed you resurrected your funeral thread on the French forum, thinking I wouldn't notice!

Damn, you noticed it, Patrick !

TBTHOG is highly underrated. I used to spin in college at UT-Austin and it was always a hit. While it took folks a while to realize what it was, it worked well.

The remix on Substance Abuse is also quite good, I think.

I have always had mixed feelings about TBTHOG. I like the '98 Peel Session version a lot, but for whatever reason, it just doesn't make it into my mp3 player play list for n.o.