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The Great Long-Lost First Recording by New Order!

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Matthew Tarbox is an American from Connecticut who would like people to believe he's someone else with some of his inferences about writing albums. He isn't one of New Order, don't worry people.

Unfortunately he has seen fit to make a "contribution" to something that has absolutely nothing to do with him, and without having any idea of what he has stumbled into. He's also seemed to miss that I am also a musician who is currently working on wriing new songs, but there you go !

Sure, I was wrong to be so insensitive in my indignant response to Kevin's message, with what seemed good reason at the time, and for which I have already apologised. One or two saw fit to point a finger at me on face value, without knowing any of the background, and to the person who sent me three abusive emails, I'm sure your mother is proud of you.

My response was entirely based on the fact that I resented the inference that Kevin was in any way hassled or received unsolicited correspondence, and the way he has portrayed it would make it appear that the "private e-mail address" was sought out and used without his permission. The "private e-mail address" happens to be exactly the same one he quoted as the one he uses here. Kevin implies that he was hassled, this is complete fabrication for the purposes of embellishment.

At the time of writing that message I was unaware of the extent of Kevin's current battle with self-doubt and depression, which was revealed to me during a reconnaissance of his website's message board. It does explain the perceived need to attack me vehemently on all fronts, when all I has actually done was say I didn't like a track and quoted a couple of well-known anecdotes. Kevin kindly set the record straight with those anecdotes. This was hardly a "dignified response", more a passionate and rather irrational one. The reasons for the need to defend oneself so passionately are well-documented on Kevin's message board (by himself, I hasten to add, and not in relation to this event).

I still retain the right to not like Haystack as a track, in much the same way that I don't like Slow Jam, the latest R n B rubbish on MTV or half of Pop Idol. The fact that I do like a lot of Kevin's work and hold him in very high regard as a songwriter is rendered irrelevant it seems, as NOOL has become this thing where people have to be seen to suck up to "famous people".

To those who took the time to mail me and agree with where I was, thank you. To those who thought it appropriate to pillory me, thank you also. To Kevin Hewick, good luck with the singing. To Mat Austin Tarbox, disappear back to your hole content that you have stirred the pot sufficiently. To the rest of NOOL, it's been emotional.

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I was put off buying Tender Bruises and Scars by certain members of this site. But this means my NO collection is not complete - I am buying it (From Brussels With Love costs a fortune on Ebay!).

BTW if everyone gives Kevin a chance he may post here more often - which is a good thing me thinks!

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Originally posted by Spotnick > > > > > > > :skeptic:> > What the hell is that supposed to mean? I have more than 8000 posts.... ? > :nono:> > Sure, it's a ratio of 5 messages per day since the opening, but still... :wtf:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Bless.

thanks for a cheery start to the day Nic ,:thumb:

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hmmmm...interesting...so who are all these people coming in here trying to wind Timbo up???

Seems a wee bit odd...first Kevin's biggest fan...then Kevin...then tarbaby...

what a fooking load of wank!!!

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If there wasn't a post from Kevin on this thread it would have been locked by now me thinks!

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Originally posted by Oslo Chateau Neuf 25th May 1981 Live -tarbox

It's crap who cares wether or not it's got any historical significance? and it seems it you who has the ego problem. Some nomark who's made 4 posts and think you can shout the odds on here and tell someone who's posted over 8000 what to do.

Fucken Do one, you beaut.

What difference does it make how many posts he's made? Fuckin 'ell, talk about elitism. Playing the big hard man....you "fucken do one".:clap:

It doesn't make any differences to whether he's right or wrong but it makes a hell of a lot of difference to wether or not you can call the shots and tell someone they should refrain from posting. Mr Mat(I've got a life) Austin. Who's spent much of the last few years arguing the toss over nothing of any substance with AJ Wells on Alt-Music, author of some of the longest posts in it's hitory. He has the cheek to infer others are beneath him because he's a fucken musician. Woopdefuckendo!

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Originally posted by mat.austin.tarbox and if you even knew who i was

Heard a fella try a similar line in the queue at the Hacienda , Ange Matthews said she knew he was a wanker , but was upset to learn that he was the last to know ... true story , good judge of character Ange

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Originally posted by Garymac > Originally posted by mat.austin.tarbox> > > > > and if you even knew who i was

Heard a fella try a similar line in the queue at the Hacienda , Ange Matthews said she knew he was a wanker , but was upset to learn that he was the last to know ... true story , good judge of character Ange

:rofl: Glad to see yer humour is back on TOP form Mr Rotund;)

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Originally posted by ShugZV© > Originally posted by Garymac> > > > Originally posted by mat.austin.tarbox> > > > > > > > > > and if you even knew who i was >

Heard a fella try a similar line in the queue at the Hacienda , Ange Matthews said she knew he was a wanker , but was upset to learn that he was the last to know ... true story , good judge of character Ange

:rofl: Glad to see yer humour is back on TOP form Mr Rotund;)

Been on a trip 'round Europe past few weeks , inter-rail at my age , humour was all I had left :). Living like a student has fucked me figure up , less rotund but still heavy of chin , should be back to full rotund come autumn, :thumb:

Ah , I see that Shuglet ( wee ) has sent an e mither , back in a mo ..:nod:

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Cheers Gary - I have replied, but don't reply back, I know it takes you about an hour to type even the shortest of replies;)

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Originally posted by ShugZV© Cheers Gary - I have replied, but don't reply back, I know it takes you about an hour to type even the shortest of replies;)

True enough, I wouldn't mind one of those toys where you talk into a mic and it writes it up for you on t'computer, do they have a Manc accent version ?

Maybe a drunk Manc accent version too , with optional talkin bollox facility/enabler.

I tried learnin on accutype , it asked if I was wearing gloves ! Set me back months that , a pisstakin, confidence destroyin bit of software ... ought to be a law

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Dear Detweiler Low-Life,

If I played in a third-rate Joy Division covers band, I'd think twice about saying anything negative about any musician you writes and sings their own songs.

marina

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Ok, kids, it's enough.

If you wish to call yourselves name, do it in email, read the god dammed rules, first thread of this forum.

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:nonono:

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