New New Order album update...

Originally posted by Clockwork C > Originally posted by MYOB> > > > Originally posted by Clockwork C> > > > The most important thing - for me anyhow - is that ill FINALLY get to see NewOrder live sometime soon. >

Same here.

I *heard* the Lansdowne show. By leaning out a window of my dads office block (on Lansdowne Road).

Sounded shit, though...

mmmHmm. I heard terrible things off friends who went. Why support the RHCP Ill go to england to see them next time, instead of waiting for certain crapness.

Same, I'm going to impose myself on relatives in Manchester, but probably go to a Dublin one if there is one anyway

Originally posted by Johnny Giles

Originally posted by Dave Fox *Doesn't clash with a major artist release.

The release date of Get Ready clashed with FOUR other major releases.....Bjork's greatest hits, The Strokes, Slipknot and another one I can't remember. I do clearly remember walking into HMV to be confronted by their new release rack and having to search for Get Ready.

The HMV (a rather large one where i live ) where I got my copy of Get Ready really pushed it. They were playing the album in the store and had a fair spot for it on the new release shelf. Mind you, I do recall the in-store charting having Get Ready in the top ten. Just a little promo can go a long way.

It might also help if New Order put their name on the cover of the album. These days, most people are going to pass it by if they don't see who it is. For example, the average person sees on a shelf " System of a down ", "Linkin Part Remixes", " Moby ", " (some up and comming indy group) " and then an album with a picture of a lady and a red line on it. Unless you bother looking at everything or know the album is out already, chances are you wont even sample it. The cover of Get Ready looked like a chillout techno cd anyway.

Point being, advertising by shops and radios AS WELL as decent marketing from New Order should help the sales along greatly. Because we know the music isnt the problem :D

It might also help if New Order put their name on the cover of the album.

But that's the point, I guess. You can obviously recognize New Order records in stores as most of them don't wear any name or title on their sleeves. Clever strategy for promotion, isnt't it?

Originally posted by Spotnick Usually, there is a sticker on the album stating it's a New Orde record...Plus, it was written on Retro !

well 'A Means To An End' had 'END' written on it in large letters. as i was walking through hmv it made me stop in my tracks. it smelt of saville. i was right. i wasnt looking at the JD rack at the time, was just wandering through. its not just the lack of a name, theres something about the saville design.

Originally posted by Rainmaster > It might also help if New Order put their name on the cover of the album.But that's the point, I guess. You can obviously recognize New Order records in stores as most of them don't wear any name or title on their sleeves. Clever strategy for promotion, isnt't it?

Well, you can and I can recognise it, cos we are long-time fans. But what about somebody who knows nothing about the Order but likes their latest single? If their attention is not caught by something more evident than a no-name-no-title sleeve, they'll never buy the CD cos they won't notice it.

Originally posted by MYOB > Originally posted by Clockwork C> > The most important thing - for me anyhow - is that ill FINALLY get to see NewOrder live sometime soon.

Same here.

I *heard* the Lansdowne show. By leaning out a window of my dads office block (on Lansdowne Road).

Sounded shit, though...

It was :bag:

Originally posted by Ben > Originally posted by Rainmaster> > > > It might also help if New Order put their name on the cover of the album.> > > > But that's the point, I guess. You can obviously recognize New Order records in stores as most of them don't wear any name or title on their sleeves. Clever strategy for promotion, isnt't it?

Well, you can and I can recognise it, cos we are long-time fans. But what about somebody who knows nothing about the Order but likes their latest single? If their attention is not caught by something more evident than a no-name-no-title sleeve, they'll never buy the CD cos they won't notice it. They could just go up to the counter and ask for the "new New Order CD"

Originally posted by Solitude Is it right that this album will be in a simular vein to Technique?, i hope so as I for one didn't think much of the 'guitar' songs on 'Get Ready'. They seem to do 'electronic' stuff a lot better.Did either the band or London records make any money with 'Get Ready'?, I am wondering if it is financially viable for them and whether that has an impact on release dates.Naivety:(

I guess if you don't get it then you just don't get it. Times of changed! The album was fucking great! Just bad promo! Maybe you should try some MDMA and absorb the truth.

Yes, of course, forgot that chemicals provide the truth. Nice first post, way to go, insulting the respected NOOL elders !

But that's the point, I guess. You can obviously recognize New Order records in stores as most of them don't wear any name or title on their sleeves. Clever strategy for promotion, isnt't it?

and they are usually placed under the card that reads "new order".

Originally posted by Jeff Tucker > Originally posted by Solitude> Is it right that this album will be in a simular vein to Technique?, i hope so as I for one didn't think much of the 'guitar' songs on 'Get Ready'. They seem to do 'electronic' stuff a lot better.> Did either the band or London records make any money with 'Get Ready'?, I am wondering if it is financially viable for them and whether that has an impact on release dates.> Naivety:(

I guess if you don't get it then you just don't get it. Times of changed! The album was fucking great! Just bad promo! Maybe you should try some MDMA and absorb the truth.

You must be joking mate... Technique vs Get Ready, no comparison. I'll pop a few pills methinks and put Technique on!

Originally posted by Clockwork C Brilliant news. I cant wait for it. To be honest, Im just as interested with what saville will come up with for the cover as the material.

It's far from clear that Saville will do, or even art direct, the sleeve. He's recently described continuing to do record sleeves as being like "doing your O levels [school exams] again and again and again ..." and seemed to have limited interest in even doing a neworder one.

Let's hope he changes his mind. Neworder without a Saville sleeve would be like Neworder without Gillian ...

I reckon Hooky should take over as lead singer for the new album to freshen things up a bit... seriously! :) I've always thought that he'd make a better frontman and he's no worse at singing than Barney!

Originally posted by DShamen I reckon Hooky should take over as lead singer for the new album to freshen things up a bit... seriously! :)I've always thought that he'd make a better frontman and he's no worse at singing than Barney!

nope

Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope > Originally posted by DShamen> I reckon Hooky should take over as lead singer for the new album to freshen things up a bit... seriously! :)> I've always thought that he'd make a better frontman and he's no worse at singing than Barney!

nope I concur, David.

Originally posted by DShamen I reckon Hooky should take over as lead singer for the new album to freshen things up a bit... seriously! :)I've always thought that he'd make a better frontman and he's no worse at singing than Barney!

I can't listen to Hooky's voice. It sounds like he's got gravel stuck in his mouth.

Originally posted by Buffer Low > Originally posted by Ben > Originally posted by Rainmaster> > > > It might also help if New Order put their name on the cover of the album.> > > > But that's the point, I guess. You can obviously recognize New Order records in stores as most of them don't wear any name or title on their sleeves. Clever strategy for promotion, isnt't it?

Well, you can and I can recognise it, cos we are long-time fans. But what about somebody who knows nothing about the Order but likes their latest single? If their attention is not caught by something more evident than a no-name-no-title sleeve, they'll never buy the CD cos they won't notice it. They could just go up to the counter and ask for the "new New Order CD"

I was talking about the casual and impulse buyers who probably don't know the new album is even out because the promotion was so dismal. most people i knew had no clue new order had a new album to even ask for.

Originally posted by Jeff Tucker > Originally posted by Solitude> Is it right that this album will be in a simular vein to Technique?, i hope so as I for one didn't think much of the 'guitar' songs on 'Get Ready'. They seem to do 'electronic' stuff a lot better.> Did either the band or London records make any money with 'Get Ready'?, I am wondering if it is financially viable for them and whether that has an impact on release dates.> Naivety:(

I guess if you don't get it then you just don't get it. Times of changed! The album was fucking great! Just bad promo! Maybe you should try some MDMA and absorb the truth. You know where you can shove your MDMA Jeff. I reckon' in the 24 years of listening to N.O., has given me an inclination to form an opinion of what I like and dislike. Tim, who 'ya calling an 'elder'.

Originally posted by This blue-eyed boy that wants to be > Originally posted by DShamen> I reckon Hooky should take over as lead singer for the new album to freshen things up a bit... seriously! :)> I've always thought that he'd make a better frontman and he's no worse at singing than Barney!

I can't listen to Hooky's voice. It sounds like he's got gravel stuck in his mouth.

Just an idea... ;)

Originally posted by E.Costello Yes, of course, forgot that chemicals provide the truth. Nice first post, way to go, insulting the respected NOOL elders !

Well said!

Originally posted by kamar khan i hope they go the route they did with "someone like you". that single alone means more to me than get ready.

Fixed it for ya

The only thing I want in my life is a new NEW ORDER album. And also it would be to nice to have a complete video collection on DVD including some best live performances and TTOTP appearances. :) I'm keeping my fingers crossed and I even have a saved up sum for the upcoming New Order stuff (i.e. singles, DVDs, album + a new order special).

Hello. I've ben away for half a year, and now I've returned, there's absolutely no news on New Order and their forthcoming releases. It's nice to know that there are people in this world even lazier than me.

Hi Julijana, wondered where you'd gone to ! Nothing's changed round here. They're still writing/recording the album, still no news of gigs. Rocket Mick's been arrested in Germany, Celtic still haven't lost a game, and Seb has gone mad. Apart from that, it's business as usual.

At least they could release a single. A new single. I agree to wait for another, say, year but if only the new single would have been released by the end of the fall. What are they waiting for? Sometimes I think they'd better be owned by Universal or EMI.

Originally posted by Spotnick I recently heard through the grapevines that New Order lost a producer, hence they have cancelled stuff to be able to pass more time in studio. They will be there all October.Now, I have no idea which producer, but apparently, the next Hooky DJ date has been cancelled.Now, I can't confirm this, so take it or leave it...! Hence why I won't post this on the front page before I can confirm this.But my source is very credible, so you can trust this information...

hmmmmm...not so sure this is a good sign...

hopefully its not...

--that the producer did not think the music was good enough to put his name on? --That the label didn't think enough of the music to keep paying for an expensive producer --that the songs need more work before really being distilled.

Or maybe Barney was just his usual difficult self in the studio

Dave