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it seems Moby will cover Temptation on his new album (release March2005)
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Bah, Moby's good music days have long been over (hey have they ever existed?). Today he is just whisked around to anti-Bush music events.
Well, nice try for Temptation, but it COULD be anything really... here is the quote from Moby's website:
"i don't often cover other peoples songs. but cd1 will contain a cover. and the hint is...i bought a 7" single in the early 80's and it was very difficult to determine the artist because the artwork looked like blue flecked linoleum on the 7" sleeve. eh, you'll figure it out soon enough. it's very pretty, if i do say so myself."
Sure, Temptation's artwork looks this way, but it could be anything... really!
Originally posted by 5 8 6 i'm looking forward to listening to the song. I think it should be good.
No it won't.
I don't like Moby much but I think his version of New Dawn Fades is good. I am not sure if he would cover another JD/NO song though.
I guess its only like Pras Micheal covering numerous Bee Gee's songs and turning them into gansta rap tunes.
i liked his version of new dawn fades, as well, so i'm quite looking forward to a moby temptation. from all the moby-bashing around here, you'd think eminem was lurking around the site!
Originally posted by AgentWood i liked his version of new dawn fades, as well, so i'm quite looking forward to a moby temptation. from all the moby-bashing around here, you'd think eminem was lurking around the site!
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No eminem 'round here, but I do quite like his new video with all the Pee Wee screams ;)
I am proud to say that I've NEVER seen any of that little faggot's videos (eminem or whatever) and I have never listened to any of his songs all the way through...and never will. 
Moby has always had good LP's and I am looking forward to the next even more...though, like many groups out there that started back in day...his first few albums were ca-rappy at best!!
Originally posted by Sir CHUNKS I am proud to say that I've NEVER seen any of that little faggot's videos (eminem or whatever) and I have never listened to any of his songs all the way through...and never will.
8 Mile was a good movie though...
Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by Sir CHUNKS I am proud to say that I've NEVER seen any of that little faggot's videos (eminem or whatever) and I have never listened to any of his songs all the way through...and never will.
8 Mile was a good movie though...
You're joking....right? 
Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by Sir CHUNKS I am proud to say that I've NEVER seen any of that little faggot's videos (eminem or whatever) and I have never listened to any of his songs all the way through...and never will.
8 Mile was a good movie though...
Originally posted by Aleph > Originally posted by Spotnick> > > > > > Originally posted by Sir CHUNKS> I am proud to say that I've NEVER seen any of that little faggot's videos (eminem or whatever) and I have never listened to any of his songs all the way through...and never will.
8 Mile was a good movie though...
I agree with Mr. Aleph.
Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by Sir CHUNKS I am proud to say that I've NEVER seen any of that little faggot's videos (eminem or whatever) and I have never listened to any of his songs all the way through...and never will.
8 Mile was a good movie though...
I agree with Spotnick. And even if I don't necessarily like all his music, I must admit that he is a very intelligent songwriter (lyrics that is, much of the music is sampled) and a smart businessman. Respect.
/TLV
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Maybe so TLV...but I just can't suscribe to that. And as we all know very well, opinions are like assholes, and everybody's got one...me no different.
I'm finding myself more and more closed minded as I age and maybe it'll be the end of me but I'm happy with that for now.
As the song goes "Eminem ain't nuttin' but a bitch!" 
Sooooooo... what is your opinion of the possible Moby cover of ye olde Taboo #7?
I think it should be a decent effort. I think his cover of NDF is one of the best JD I've heard by a mainstream artist. Hey, maybe it'll make "the kids" take notice of New Order (yeah, like it made them notice JD) and we'll get the forums clogged up with kids like Spike. :p
i think when he coverd ndf is was a pretty good effort i like it! intresting to hear temptation though
Originally posted by Sir CHUNKS Sooooooo... what is your opinion of the possible Moby cover of ye olde Taboo #7?
He, he. Well, as previous poster said "how can he improve on perfection?" That said, I generally look forward to covers of older tracks by today's musicians. I'm willing to give Moby a chance. If he is just rehashing the original with some more modern techno-beat, then I'll probably be disappointed. But if he is taking the track in a new (hopefully unexpected, yeah right) direction, then I'd be very pleased.
Though it is debated if it's a cover or a remix, the Pump Panel version/remix of Confusion whooped (sp? + Bernard pun somewhat intended) the original version's metaphorical ass. Also, the Community version of Love Vigilantes is rocking a hell lot more than the original... :D
Just my opinion. And I got an asshole too, but I'm not showing you that one.
/TLV
I'm willing to give Moby a chance. If he is just rehashing the original with some more modern techno-beat, then I'll probably be disappointed. But if he is taking the track in a new (hopefully unexpected, yeah right) direction, then I'd be very pleased.
I can dig that...and I agree that it [should] be a complete re-hash, vice some funky techno trash.
The important thing with Temptation is to get the Sequencer right. I also fear that Moby will make it sound like Blue Monday.
Originally posted by Ronald Kirsch The important thing with Temptation is to get the Sequencer right. I also fear that Moby will make it sound like Blue Monday.
C'mon...even Moby isn't that dumb!!
Originally posted by Sir CHUNKS > Originally posted by Ronald Kirsch> The important thing with Temptation is to get the Sequencer right. I also fear that Moby will make it sound like Blue Monday.
C'mon...even Moby isn't that dumb!!
Look at who he has supported for the last two elections ;)
By the way, I guarantee you 100% that Spotnick was NOT joking when he said Moby was in "8 Mile".
That's just the way he is. 
well, I think he did a pretty damn good job with New Dawn Fades... def check out the acoustic version on the Play DVD too!
I think moby could at least do a pretty decent cover of Temptation... although there are a few bits of the song that might be a bit cringe-worthy -> "up down turn around" bit & and the "ooh oohs"
but other than that...
-> I bet (if he is covering Temptation) that it'll sound somewhere between the original 12" and the '98 versions
Originally posted by Tristan > Originally posted by Sir CHUNKS > Originally posted by Ronald Kirsch> The important thing with Temptation is to get the Sequencer right. I also fear that Moby will make it sound like Blue Monday.
C'mon...even Moby isn't that dumb!!
Look at who he has supported for the last two elections ;)
Ok Tris...you do have me there. 
Originally posted by Sir CHUNKS > Originally posted by Tristan> > > > > > > Originally posted by Sir CHUNKS> > Originally posted by Ronald Kirsch> The important thing with Temptation is to get the Sequencer right. I also fear that Moby will make it sound like Blue Monday.
C'mon...even Moby isn't that dumb!!
Look at who he has supported for the last two elections ;)
Ok Tris...you do have me there.
He's not too dumb; he loves Homer Simpson. :)
Originally posted by TLV > Though it is debated if it's a cover or a remix, the Pump Panel version/remix of Confusion whooped (sp? + Bernard pun somewhat intended) the original version's metaphorical ass.
:barf:
I hate that "remix" like you wouldn't believe, and not because it doesn't sound like the original. It's not even a song, it's a 2-second 303 loop.
Ugh.
The new Arthur Baker version of Confusion is cool though.
Originally posted by Chase > Originally posted by TLV> > > > Though it is debated if it's a cover or a remix, the Pump Panel version/remix of Confusion whooped (sp? + Bernard pun somewhat intended) the original version's metaphorical ass.>
:barf:
I hate that "remix" like you wouldn't believe, and not because it doesn't sound like the original. It's not even a song, it's a 2-second 303 loop.
Ugh.
"All music is organized noise." - Ralf Hutter
/TLV
Originally posted by The Man Up North By the way, I guarantee you 100% that Spotnick was NOT joking when he said Moby was in "8 Mile". That's just the way he is.
When did I say this? We were talking about Eminem you idiot. 
Originally posted by TLV "All music is organized noise." - Ralf Hutter
Sure, but old Ralf doesn't say whether it's good music.
You're certainly not alone, though, the Access Virus list archives are full of people asking how to make "that sound from Blade." Baffles me, men alla har vi olika smak, eller hur?
Originally posted by Tristan > Originally posted by Sir CHUNKS > Originally posted by Ronald Kirsch> The important thing with Temptation is to get the Sequencer right. I also fear that Moby will make it sound like Blue Monday.
C'mon...even Moby isn't that dumb!!
Look at who he has supported for the last two elections ;)
Er, the more intelligent candidate? Are you sure you want to bring Bush into this? :D
Originally posted by joethelion well, I think he did a pretty damn good job with New Dawn Fades... def check out the acoustic version on the Play DVD too!
I think moby could at least do a pretty decent cover of Temptation... although there are a few bits of the song that might be a bit cringe-worthy -> "up down turn around" bit & and the "ooh oohs"
Well when he did New Dawn Fades, he did have Joy Division as his backing band; at least on the version I have.
Originally posted by Ronald Kirsch > > Well when he did New Dawn Fades, he did have Joy Division as his backing band; at least on the version I have.
the original version (w/o JD) of Moby's "New Dawn Fades" was the bside to "Feeling so Real" and was later on the soundtrack "Heat" ...tony wilson even talks about it in the liner notes to 24hr Party People
the Version of New Dawn Fades w/ JD and Billy Corgan & one more guy (forget his name at the moment) was recorded live on the Area1 Tour, and put on 24HrPartyPeople
Originally posted by Ian MadManc I don't like Moby much but I think his version of New Dawn Fades is good.
According to me, it's the best cover ever done for a JD song. But it was easy with such musicians... so can we call it a cover ?
Originally posted by Pascal CHAMPAVERT > Originally posted by Ian MadManc> I don't like Moby much but I think his version of New Dawn Fades is good. According to me, it's the best cover ever done for a JD song. But it was easy with such musicians... so can we call it a cover ?
...again, see my previous post. Moby did "New Dawn Fades" WITHOUT JD/NO back in 1994. It was the bside to "Feeling So Real." It was later featured on the "Heat" soundtrack...
years later, at one of the four shows that NO played on the Area1 tour - Moby was joined by NO & co to play the track live. That live recording was put on the 24hour party people soundtrack.
the live version is a bit different than Moby's original cover
Sure, you're entirely right : I forgot this first cover, that I've never heard. I just know the live version with NO released on the 24 HPP soundtrack.
what troubles me most about this remake, is, both versions of Temptation have character, and for the teeni-bopper crowd whom have never heard NO they will accept the moby-lized version, and discount the original, and thats dependent on whether they even discover or go out of their way to hear the original.
Originally posted by Bob Konkel what troubles me most about this remake, is, both versions of Temptation have character, and for the teeni-bopper crowd whom have never heard NO they will accept the moby-lized version, and discount the original, and thats dependent on whether they even discover or go out of their way to hear the original.
Moby has always been quick to praise those that influenced him. If they release this track as a single, i am sure he will give New Order serious respect when he goes on the talk show circuit.
Im certian Moby will offer due respect, both spoken and linear as well, its how it affects the younger fans appreciation of the original that troubles me.
I see... you mean like how Tears For Fears now feel like they are doing a cheap cover of Mad World whenever they perform it, even though they wrote the song.*
*Michael Andrews and Gary Jules covered Mad World for the Donnie Darko soundtrack which became a huge hit, causing people to say "tears for who?"
