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How Will YOU Feel When The Album Gets Leaked?

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Originally posted by Old Blue If you look at it for a moment, there is an argument that the record company have no argument against the p2p networks. I mean, Warner currently have two versions of Krafty available as a stream, and it doesn't take much technical savvy to get them onto a hard drive or an mp3 player. Just a naughties version of recording it off the radio I suppose.

That's ok cos its the Record Company deciding to do it as part of their promotional plan. They're, in effect, happy to give it away, the purpose of a single is to promote an album and I guess they're using the stream in the same way. As a sampler for what's around the corner. They know that people are gonna upload it onto p2p networks but its only 1 track so they take a view that they can live with that.

Downloading a whole album without the Record Companies consent is totally different.

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Originally posted by Rocket Mick Nice one JOHNNY.Have you finished KNITTING me that BOOTLEG SCARF yet?Cheers Rocket KNIT :D

Nearly. Me Grans almost there. The first two she did I put out on ebay. We use the money to pay her Ovaltiney subs. If she doesn't get yours finished by the morning she'll have no dinner till Monday. I've told her. Crack on Gran!!.

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In regard to piracy issues, this isn't a new Britney Spears/U2/50 Cent album :barf: It would seem "those" fans are the disloyal, easily bored type who download it, burn it, and that's the end of it. That is, I would like to think that even a newbie Order fan or a mildly interested punter one would at least shell out some cash for the single.

It's New Fuckin' Order, a band that in my opinion is one in the same with fan loyalty and support. I'm all for advance listens, but only if the band gets their rightly deserved money, which many of the 'ard core fans are more than willing to shell out. But for me, I still want to keep the whole LP untouched for my virgin ears :evil4:

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Doubt I will buy it, I don't have all their albums. Their lame studio output does not compare to the live experience.

Mind you their quite lame live now , auto cue and all :evil4:

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i always end up buying the vinyl if i like a particular album or single. it's the only way to really listen to music (assuming you have a great stereo system and turntable). but the digital domain is basically a matter of convenience, and i do use iTunes frequently to buy music. i don't illegally download, but i feel that if you are one who does, and you do like the artist and like the album (at least), you should buy a legit copy of it whether it is cd, iTunes version or another commercially available format which will allow the band/artist to make the royalty deserved. There's no stopping any release from being available on kazaa or whatnot, but I'm not going to get mad about it - leave it to the legal people to handle that situation as they are probably the best ones to obtain enforcement. But I think for me personally, I need to account to the artist. I need to show my appreciation for their craft. So buy it by all means.

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Will probably download it but will DEFINETLEY WITHOUT QUESTION STILL BUY IT!!!

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Sure anybody can dowload the album. I will if I can find it.

I will also purchase the album as well. There is a presentation factor that is very exciting and important to me. Am I alone on this one? :confused:

Call me crazy but I love looking and admiring the cover artwork, I collect vinyl as well so I will be buying that too.

Also I will pay to see them in concert and buy a concert T-shirt. Who knows this might be my only chance to see them live.

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I don't much fool with p2p type programs at all. While I'm just as guilty as most of us for getting an mp3 of Krafty to satisfy my curiousity, I won't be seeking out the entire album to download. If nothing else, mp3 and any form of audio file compression, has a horrible sound to it and is not acceptable as an enjoyable format for me to listen to. It's a shame that most people have settled for this format and it's having a crippling effect on the music industry. If music sales continue to fall, nobody will be willing to risk the amount of money it takes to put out a decent album and several artists and labels will fall by the wayside.

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I fall in line w/what Bentley has added. It's been years since I bothered w/ a p2p service, and I frankly don't miss it much. There are some mp3 blogs out there where I can sample music by artist that intrigues me, though certainly the selection on those can't compare to Napster's heyday.

Once I get the proper album or single, then I will delete the evaluation track, because the sound quite often isn't as good as what's on the official release. I might possibly d/l Siren if I come across it in the month between the UK and US release, because I can't see a good reason to release it just before the start of whatever US dates they may have lined up.

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I used to download - a lot. This summer, I downloaded the Moz's new album, mostly because I was curious but never liked his solo efforts. However, for the Cure's box set and their album, I didn't download anything and I'm not planning to for New Order's. In my opinion, it spoils listening to the album all the way through when you first buy it. Downloading doesn't offer cover art or linear notes and you only get one track at a time, out of order. With an album like Technique, for example, the order and cover art also make the album. If Dream Attack started and Fine Time finished it, the album wouldn't have the same feel. Downloading also messed up my computer a myriad of times, especially on a college network, and I don't even use Soulseek or K-Lite anymore.

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Is it wrong to download albums that you once owned, but they are either ruined, too scratched to listen to, or you lost them?

Once I discovered P2P services, that is the first thing I did was Download everything I once owned, because I thought it was my right to re-own what I once did own.

As for order of tracks and album art, liner notes, etc...my ipod photo displays a copy of the album art when I play a song. Also, if you are familiar with itunes, you can easily set up the tracklisting in the same exact order as the original album. That is one of the first things I do is go on "amazon.com" and check out the tracklisting and setup the right order.

Liner notes can also be downloaded into your ipod's "notes" section very easily. I like to put lyrics, magazine articles, and other notes in that section. It comes in very handy.

R

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I steer clear of peer to peer.

I'll PreOrder the NewOrder album as soon as its available :)

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