RESEARCH - HELP NEEDED

Jerry, how do you then explain that Arthur Baker, their good friend and producer is Jewish? Also they played an anti-apartheid bill (didn't they?). On one Electronic song Bernard Sumner sings "It's like the colour of your skin, it doesn't mean a thing."

So where exactly does the secret agenda fit in?

Also if you order ANY CD from the HMV net page, the confirmation message states Order status: new order

Does that make HMV a bunch of nazis too?

Yep, religion. I knew it. he must be working on a paper for his Theology class. Just what we need another FUCKING preacher to tell us how to live our lives. Show me a picture of God and I just might believe in her/him/it. You're wasting your time in Tampa. If you want some fun check out the Salvador Dali museum on mushrooms. Talk about your religious experiences.....!

Mario, in case you didn't know, the USA has a corner on the military gangbang rape thing so unless Jerry is himself involved in the US military, he wont be included in any multiple partner activities. US service men like to take advantage of the women (and probably the little boys too) where they are stationed away from home. God bless our dirty rotten disgusting no good for nothing but killing soldiers. Friendly Fire. The only path to peace.

Originally posted by Jerry Murphy Dear all, Thank you for some choice and frank words. I will not be dragged down to your level but i have had a private email from one of your members which states the following:Can you expalin why the original 12inch cover of the UK release of 'Confusio' sometime in 1983 that if you read between the graphics it says F U C K O F F J E W.Thankyou to the individual who sent me that information I will not reveal their name.If anybody can email me a picture of this album cover I would be very grateful.As you people like to leave quotes mine is "All men are equal in the eyes of God"Thanks all

You absolute tit.

Btw thanks to you jerry i now have 400 posts! "all men are equal in the eyes of god"?Fuck off.

whoo yeah i like it. Yesterday there was an asshole called piontdexter now it is jerry. Are you two in any way related?You filthy badlanguage using sob.

Jerry, if that is indeed your real name, I am a champion of free speech, I believe you have the right to state your opinion. Why everyone is slagging off you is that you go and present your opinions under the guise of "research" then proceed thru that to spew the very rascist BS you espouse to be researching. You have an agenda, it's not that well hidden, and you're a nusciance because of it. if you had just come out and said, "i don't like Jews" or "How do NO feel about minorites because I don't care for them much myself", I'd have a bit more respect for your honesty. I would still say you were wrong, but you'd have earned some bonus points by being open. Instead you hide behind the cloak of your original post, trying to antagonize the regulars of this site. i've seen it done before, and i don't appreciate it. Whatever your belief system may be, we are all equally shitheads until we die, and the best we can do is try to get along just a little better than the previous generations. Fuck off, jerry, you're not welcome

Originally posted by Keeper Of The Major Key > Originally posted by Jerry Murphy> Dear all, > > Thank you for some choice and frank words. I will not be dragged down to your level but i have had a private email from one of your members which states the following:> > Can you expalin why the original 12inch cover of the UK release of 'Confusio' sometime in 1983 that if you read between the graphics it says F U C K O F F J E W.> Thankyou to the individual who sent me that information I will not reveal their name.> > If anybody can email me a picture of this album cover I would be very grateful.> > As you people like to leave quotes mine is > "All men are equal in the eyes of God"> > Thanks all> > >

You absolute tit.

Took the words out of my mouth Keepsy.

New Order, and their associates, aren't Nazis.

End of.

Originally posted by Jerry Murphy ps This site is littered with bad language there are some many wonderful words in the English langauage, there is no need to use such foul words on this website.Yours Jerry

Bad Language? Perhaps it's because I'm Dutch and do not understand everything (I learn it from a book), but I learn a lot of new wonderful English words on this forum, like cack, pants, bollocks, tosser; to name but a few (from Martin's posts). I wonder what it all means ?!??!?

Jerry, if that is indeed your real name, I am a champion of free speech, I believe you have the right to state your opinion. Why everyone is slagging off you is that you go and present your opinions under the guise of "research" then proceed thru that to spew the very rascist BS you espouse to be researching. You have an agenda, it's not that well hidden, and you're a nusciance because of it. if you had just come out and said, "i don't like Jews" or "How do NO feel about minorites because I don't care for them much myself", I'd have a bit more respect for your honesty. I would still say you were wrong, but you'd have earned some bonus points by being open. Instead you hide behind the cloak of your original post, trying to antagonize the regulars of this site. i've seen it done before, and i don't appreciate it. Whatever your belief system may be, we are all equally shitheads until we die, and the best we can do is try to get along just a little better than the previous generations. Fuck off, jerry, you're not welcome

It looks like Mr. Murphy himself is a fucking filthy nazi recruiter. Obviously he will gain nothing here.

One thing he got right - He really needs help

Everything I've ever read or heard regearding the Nazi Connection basically assers that the imagery, not the ideas, were attractive enough to merit such attention. if you ever read England's Dreaming by Jon Savage, it's dead obvious thta most punk groups were far more explicit in their use of Nazi imagery than JD. But people continue with the JD thing, why? Because they wore dark trenchcoats? C'mon Jerry, give it a rest

Ian, paticuarly was obviously interested in the dark and evil, hence songs like Atrocity Exhibition. It's lazy and stupid to suggest that this affected his own, or the other band members own beliefs.

Its kind of ironic that this guy is called Jerry, innit?

i don't see the connection between Ian's interest in the dark and evil and nazism.

Originally posted by Jerry Murphy To those who replied thank you some helpful information, I checked out Joy Division and the link between the name and the nazi camps. I find it very strange that the band who wanted to dis associate themselves from the nazi link should tehn choose a name like 'New Order' - but I guess the band have their reasons (personally I think there may be some hidden agenda).Anyway thank you allps This site is littered with bad language there are some many wonderful words in the English langauage, there is no need to use such foul words on this website.Yours Jerry

Who the fuck, who the fuck, who the fucking 'ell are you?

On second thoughts Jerry why don't you ask Quincy Jones what he thinks?

didnt martin say something about livening up the forum? martin is this your way of getting everyone riled? i bet youre jerry you cheeky beggar....if so, good one.

Naah, cant be Martin.No way. THis is not his style,i hope.

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 Jerry, if that is indeed your real name, I am a champion of free speech, I believe you have the right to state your opinion. Why everyone is slagging off you is that you go and present your opinions under the guise of "research" then proceed thru that to spew the very rascist BS you espouse to be researching. You have an agenda, it's not that well hidden, and you're a nusciance because of it. if you had just come out and said, "i don't like Jews" or "How do NO feel about minorites because I don't care for them much myself", I'd have a bit more respect for your honesty. I would still say you were wrong, but you'd have earned some bonus points by being open. Instead you hide behind the cloak of your original post, trying to antagonize the regulars of this site. i've seen it done before, and i don't appreciate it. Whatever your belief system may be, we are all equally shitheads until we die, and the best we can do is try to get along just a little better than the previous generations. Fuck off, jerry, you're not welcome

Tabsy, i'm sorry but I kinda like the little cunt!

Can you explain why, exactly, Muff-man? Is it because he caused a stir?

Originally posted by Mario Herlaar i don't see the connection between Ian's interest in the dark and evil and nazism.

exactly

Dear all,

I can't seem to understand why I am being picked upon here, look guys one of your members sent me an email about that record with visual subliminal message in it. How would I know about it? I hadn't even heard of New Order I mean they have never been a successful band here in the States.

I can see that this site means a lot to y'all and that your pop band is very close to all your hearts so I can understand the intenseness of your replies and the sincerity of them (even if the langauage is disgusting and offensive).

I would just like to say that I downloaded some New Order songs from Kazaa (check it out guys its the new Napster) and I was pleasently surprised! I was expecting heavy rock ala Metalicca or even a Heart / Bon Jovi vibe but instead I was greeted by elctro pop! Excellent, as a fan of the brilliant Depeche Mode I can relate to synth pop / rock. Not bad but I'm afraid your guys will never beat the best British band in Depeche Mode. I'm sure you guys like DM - the album Violator was one the greatest of the last 20 years.

Anyway thanks for all your help and have a holy and peaceful Christmas.

Jerry Murphy Tampa, Fl. USA

Now you've really done it, Jerry. Still, best wishes.

You like DM but have never heard of NO...strange. Fair do's Jerry, just vague hints at suggesting our fave band are a bunch of Nazi's (with alterior motives) probably isn't the best way to endear yourself. Or coming on to a board and criticising the content/language. Nevermind, good luck with your project anyway.

Originally posted by Patrick Can you explain why, exactly, Muff-man? Is it because he caused a stir?

Yes!

Originally posted by Muffy > Originally posted by Patrick> Can you explain why, exactly, Muff-man? Is it because he caused a stir?>

Yes!

Just as I thought!

I think Jerry's a rascist Depeche Mode website owner, judging by his "oh, they'll never be as good as DM"

I still say the guy ain't legit, the whole "someone e-mailed me Fuck Off Jew" sounds like crap, so I will not wish him a merry Xmas (though I wonder if he'd take it from a Nazi music-loving Storm Trooper like myself, seeing as Jesus was a Jew, after all)