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I almost included the option "Twisted Tenderness + Hooky" as a 3rd option, because I believe TT would be a great New Order song if you add Hooky on it.
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Krafty vs Twisted Tenderness
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Which song do you prefer?
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Krafty 30 (67%)
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Twisted Tenderness 15 (33%)
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Krafty, it's got hooky on it, but TT would still not be as good with hooky, it's even cheesier than krafty, aged quite badly, but I still sing along to it in the car.
When I first heard Krafty, it put me in mind of Twisted Tenderness. I really like both but went for Krafty this time around because it's still fresh and is growing on me all the time. Twisted Tenderness is a better title though :)
Why those two songs? Are they supposed to sound similar?
Krafty for me. TT the track is one of the weakest tracks on TT the album, imho.
"Twisted Tenderness" EASILY. It has more of a kick to it. "Krafty" is okay, on the other hand, but it just seems very lightweight and made for radioplay. My fave track off TT isn't even the former - it's "Vivid" - now that IS a track! Back to "Krafty" though, it kinda reminds me of "60 Miles An Hour" - more of a 2nd single to be released in that vein. Why didn't they just release the title track as their first single for more exposure for their forthcoming album?
Twisted Tenderness by an absolute mile... sounds like a classic New Order track, but without Hooky. It's just a much better song musically, lyrically... pretty much in every way really.
krafty is a super dodgy song and the lyrics are dire, hooky sounds like he plagarising himself... badly. if this is any indication as to what the rest of the album will be like then i think it's time for the lads to give it up. it's not really New Order without gillian in it anyway
TT is way better. IMHO they should have dumped the "twinkle toes" keyboards on this new track 
. That worked in the 80's (as I remember), but I just think it is a little to "retro" for the newer generation and might slow their overall sales. Keep the keyboards, but use some "up to date" effects.
Of course Hook's Bass will never go out of style 
- I could just sit listening to jam sessions from that dude!
Don't get me wrong, the new song is cool, but it is going to appeal to a limited audience the way it is, again, IMHO.
Keep in mind that Johnny Marr is playing on TT. Not to a great extend, but he is a superior musician. If you don't agree you probably should read more (to quote Tony Wilson).
Krafty is classic New Order, though I still prefer Twisted Tenderness over it. Speaking of that album, I still think Flicker is one of the most underrated songs Bernard's ever done, while Vivid is just the mightiest piece of songwriting he's ever pulled off. Magnificent, perfect song. And here's a question for all you musicians...how would you classify the sections of Vivid where the lyrics go..."And in my mind, I know I'm right, it's the same thing every night..." It's not a verse, nor a chorus, nor a bridge, nor a middle 8. Any ideas? I know it doesn't really matter but I've always wondered!
Matthew Stewart wrote: krafty is a super dodgy song and the lyrics are dire, hooky sounds like he plagarising himself... badly. if this is any indication as to what the rest of the album will be like then i think it's time for the lads to give it up.
Or maybe you could just stop listening? They wouldn't give up because some person doesn't like their songs anymore. Krafty to my ears is among the best they have put out since Technique. Bollocks if it has 'limited appeal'.
Twisted Tenderness: Better lyrics, guitar, melody, and overall effect. Although I really enjoy Krafty, its not quite up to par with TT in my mind. Maybe its Marr who makes the difference ( I admit it'd be even better with Hooky, but Hooky is hard to hear on Krafty for the most part anyway I think).
Chris owen wrote: Krafty is classic New Order, though I still prefer Twisted Tenderness over it. Speaking of that album, I still think Flicker is one of the most underrated songs Bernard's ever done, while Vivid is just the mightiest piece of songwriting he's ever pulled off. Magnificent, perfect song. And here's a question for all you musicians...how would you classify the sections of Vivid where the lyrics go..."And in my mind, I know I'm right, it's the same thing every night..." It's not a verse, nor a chorus, nor a bridge, nor a middle 8. Any ideas? I know it doesn't really matter but I've always wondered!
Vivid's lyrics were primarily by Marr.
