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Wasnt Barney supposed to be singing in Japanese or was that a badly timed Aprils fool!?
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I heard that Krafty was being released in Japan with a bonus track where Barney was singing the lyrics in Japanese..
It was discussed on ye olde worldy forum, that used to inhabit nool
I know it is one of the bonus tracks on the Jap version of WFTSC, I didn't realise ithad been leaked.
Is he going to be singing those lyrics when they visit Japan? I can only imagine what the autocue will look like.
ack. i'm sorry. i'd thought that the "post" button at the end of a thread would be posting within that thread, not a fresh new post on the forum.
/noob
lossless wrote:
ack. i'm sorry. i'd thought that the "post" button at the end of a thread would be posting within that thread, not a fresh new post on the forum.
/noob
I hate it myself, but I have a "merge" feature to put this thread into the other...
Spotnick wrote:
lossless wrote:
ack. i'm sorry. i'd thought that the "post" button at the end of a thread would be posting within that thread, not a fresh new post on the forum.
/noob
I hate it myself, but I have a "merge" feature to put this thread into the other...
That shouldn't be the last word on this problem.. it's really annoying, and gives you or the other moderators even more - unnecessary - work to do...
does anybody know what barney's singing? probably the funniest thing ever after i heard pet shop boys' "paris city boy!!"
mmmmm.. wonder if he wants to do a mandarin version some day. i can teach him some! ;p
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Ronald Kirsch wrote: I smell their first Japanese number 1.
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who'd a thunk it - little japanese girls will be tossing their Hello Kitty for NO bobbleheads (see wen order) to pop into their knapsacks with their wee heads sticking out bobbling as they run down the street or a white cell phones with NO in orange or, even better, vice versa, flamboyent orange with white NO and the ring tones ~ someone get me a patent lawyer...
Are we sure that that is actually Japanese and not just something that Barney's made up after a bit of angel dust and pernod?
His Holiness the Pope wrote: that is one of the greatest things new order has ever done. Klafty forever!
mmm...I don't think so...
Well, no...me neither. But it's so different in one respect that it's a head turner at least.
Ok, so lets say barney sings this live, and assuming that A. he can't read japanese and B. the autocue wont display it anyway, and that C. he will perform it with the same effortless improvisational ability as he did when he sang with "RealNewOrder"(tm) in English. I can think of only one pertainent question to ask....
What is Japan's current military strength, could they destroy the UK? Cos let's face it, barney is gonna THINK he's saying "gimme one more night....etc" when he's actually singing " the Emperor touches children and your ancestors were all honourless traitors".
If there's anyone from Japan here who can think of something more offensive and more likely to make Samurai blood run thru the veins of some quiet Tokyo teens, please feel free to enlighten me. OR stick around and wait for Barney himself :)
( and you yanks needn't laugh, Warner's is yours, i'd keep an eye on Pearl for a while)
DoN wrote:
Whats going on here?
Wasnt Barney supposed to be singing in Japanese or was that a badly timed Aprils fool!?
Nope, from what I've heard I think it's true.
Personally I think it's an awful idea although it's not New Order or Barney singing, it's an "indie" Japanese band isn't it? They were "entrusted" with "remodelling" the track for the Japanese market and I do recall seeing a gushing interview where they thanked New Order. (Can't remember the band name) Don't get me wrong here, I absolutely adore Japan. I visited there in 2001 (just missed the Fuji rock festival) and I loved every minute. But I've seen Jap rock bands and they tend to lack everything in terms of irony; they take it so seriously! They're only emulating what they see from the West I s'pose and most of that is bollocks.
It's simply a bad idea (to me) and I would much rather have preferred a new b-side on the Japanese release. It's where we normally look! I'm not buying any of this "we have enough for a new album" malarkey. I would put money on the fact we won't see another new New Order album for at least two years which is far too long in any case. I mean I disliked Get Ready as an overall LP, but the 3 b-sides from that era were superb! Sabotage, Player in the League and Behind Closed Doors were all excellent and certainly not the usual duff instrumentals we normally get.
Oh well, we'll have to put up with this bizarre "cover" of Krafty and desperately hope some b-sides appear on the next single release.
Ally.
it is barney singing. as far as i can recall, the japanese band was only asked to translate the lyrics into japanese for barney to sing. they aren't the ones singing or performing the song. when they thanked new order in the interview, it was for the chance to be involved with a band they love, and not for the chance to cover the song themselves.
the lyrics aren't just stuff barney made up. i can't understand all of it, but barney clearly sings japanese phrases, like "kimi wo nasanai" (i won't let you go - actually i'm not so sure of the exact verb), "ai no sekai" (the world of love), "kimi dake zya nai" (you're not the only one).
Do this: open another thread with the title "Barney singing Krafty drunk without autocue" and put that link there. I bet almost everyone would believe it.
Allejo, you need Real Player to listen to it.
i used Real Player but it can´t find the song for some reason. is still working?
someone has to *cough* "TF" it
lossless wrote:
it is barney singing. as far as i can recall, the japanese band was only asked to translate the lyrics into japanese for barney to sing. they aren't the ones singing or performing the song. when they thanked new order in the interview, it was for the chance to be involved with a band they love, and not for the chance to cover the song themselves.
the lyrics aren't just stuff barney made up. i can't understand all of it, but barney clearly sings japanese phrases, like "kimi wo nasanai" (i won't let you go - actually i'm not so sure of the exact verb), "ai no sekai" (the world of love), "kimi dake zya nai" (you're not the only one).
Agree!!
actually, Bernard himself said if he could do this for Japanese fan, because he liked the audience when he visited in 2001.( this is what Warner Japan saiid on thier HP.)
I'm not going to translate this song here because Goto Masafumi (Asian Kung-Fu Generation) did a very good job on this song. I love his lyrics as much as Bernard 's.
btw, I think he sings
kimi wo hanasanai (I woun't let you go)
He wasn't very good on sinsing in Japanese though....
Don't believe that record company said. hahaha! I hate Asian Kungfu Generation so much. Most of Japanese NO Fan don't like them, I believe. Sorry!
maybe he did for money, but who cares?
btw, ajikan is OK to me.
depends which NO song you like...
mayu wrote: btw, I think he sings
kimi wo hanasanai (I woun't let you go)
He wasn't very good on sinsing in Japanese though....
oh you're right, it must be "hanasanai". and i thought his singing was ok. japanese seems like one of the easier languages to pronounce, and it sounded like he was just trying to get the vowels straight.
Thank fuck I haven't ordered the Japanese edition of the album! 
MUCH worse than the expected...
I had an opend mind about this idea, but after hearing it... 
No way, it's ridiculous... I don't think he shouldn't have made it, it's actually fun, but to my ears it just sounds as weird as Hooky singing the Teletubbies theme...
I hope the Japanese fans enjoy it though...
BIGINOIL wrote: Makes me thirsty for Sunkist.
don't you mean "makes me thirsty for Suntory"?
lossless wrote:
BIGINOIL wrote: Makes me thirsty for Sunkist.
don't you mean "makes me thirsty for Suntory"?
No, Sunkist. Barney recorded a version of Bloo Mundi for a TV commercial. He said he got offered £100,000 to do it, but got an attack of INTEGRITY in the studio. Someone wrote £100,000 in big letters on a massive piece of card and held it up so he could see it as he sang.
BIGINOIL wrote:
lossless wrote:
BIGINOIL wrote: Makes me thirsty for Sunkist.
don't you mean "makes me thirsty for Suntory"?
No, Sunkist. Barney recorded a version of Bloo Mundi for a TV commercial. He said he got offered £100,000 to do it, but got an attack of INTEGRITY in the studio. Someone wrote £100,000 in big letters on a massive piece of card and held it up so he could see it as he sang.
yep, i know about the sunkist commercial. i was simply riffing on the fact that this was a japanese version of a new order song... suntory being a japanese whiskey that was featured in the movie lost in translation.
BIGINOIL wrote:
No, Sunkist. Barney recorded a version of Bloo Mundi for a TV commercial. He said he got offered £100,000 to do it, but got an attack of INTEGRITY in the studio. Someone wrote £100,000 in big letters on a massive piece of card and held it up so he could see it as he sang.
it's hooky who wrotes the letters, if my memory serves.
coz i laughed out loud when i first saw that paragraph saying that barney can't stop laughing until hooky did so... :p
(sunkist is the one!! )
lossless wrote:
BIGINOIL wrote:
lossless wrote:
BIGINOIL wrote: Makes me thirsty for Sunkist.
don't you mean "makes me thirsty for Suntory"?
No, Sunkist. Barney recorded a version of Bloo Mundi for a TV commercial. He said he got offered £100,000 to do it, but got an attack of INTEGRITY in the studio. Someone wrote £100,000 in big letters on a massive piece of card and held it up so he could see it as he sang.
yep, i know about the sunkist commercial. i was simply riffing on the fact that this was a japanese version of a new order song... suntory being a japanese whiskey that was featured in the movie lost in translation.
I guessed that, I just thought the second famous New Order story could do with an airing. Not heard it for a while!
Hmm.. why wouldn't barney want to sing Krafty in Finnish too. That would be seriously weird.. The chorus for example could be something like this:
Anna mulle vielä yksi päivä (vielä yksi päivä)
Anna toinenkin ilta (vain toinenkin ilta)
Tarvin toisen mahdollisuuden (mahdollisuuden)
Tällä kertaa onnistumme (onnistumme)
Sanon sen vielä kerran (vielä kerran)
Sinun täytyy tietää (sinun täytyy tietää)
Täytyy muutta mielesi (täytyy muuttaa mielesi)
en koskaan hukkaa sinua
Thanks for that, NIGHT RATE.
Anyway...
TOO MUCH WORKING OVALITNE
TOO MUCH WORKING OVALITNE
TOO MUCH WORKING OVALITNE
Can you see where I'm going with this..?
nitrate wrote:
Hmm.. why wouldn't barney want to sing Krafty in Finnish too. That would be seriously weird.. The chorus for example could be something like this:
Anna mulle vielä yksi päivä (vielä yksi päivä)
Anna toinenkin ilta (vain toinenkin ilta)
Tarvin toisen mahdollisuuden (mahdollisuuden)
Tällä kertaa onnistumme (onnistumme)
Sanon sen vielä kerran (vielä kerran)
Sinun täytyy tietää (sinun täytyy tietää)
Täytyy muutta mielesi (täytyy muuttaa mielesi)
en koskaan hukkaa sinua
I once enquired of some natives of that land as to the meaning of a Finnish word (which sounds like) "Perkola", based on the fact that it was the only word Tommi Makkinen ever said on a stage, usually after one of his patent using-a-tree-to-get-round-a-corner manouvres hadn't quite paid off.
I was informed that it was a "variable intensity swear word", with the level of rudeness being varied by rolling the rrrr longer and general tone of voice.
So "perkola" is "golly gosh" and "PERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRkooooooOoOLLAAAAAHHHHHH!!" is unprintable on a respectable forum like this ( ahem).
Now I dunno if this is true ( hardly worth them lying about unless it's true meaning is deeply embarrassing or something), but if it is, it leads to two thoughts.
Firstly, the Finns may swear even better than the Irish and Scots, having developed a whole new cursing technology. And secondly...can you even begin to imagine what a Finnish Barney would have sounded like, circa 1986, shitfaced and rambling????????? the mind boggles.
nitrate wrote:
Hmm.. why wouldn't barney want to sing Krafty in Finnish too. That would be seriously weird.. The chorus for example could be something like this:
Anna mulle vielä yksi päivä (vielä yksi päivä)
Anna toinenkin ilta (vain toinenkin ilta)
Tarvin toisen mahdollisuuden (mahdollisuuden)
Tällä kertaa onnistumme (onnistumme)
Sanon sen vielä kerran (vielä kerran)
Sinun täytyy tietää (sinun täytyy tietää)
Täytyy muutta mielesi (täytyy muuttaa mielesi)
en koskaan hukkaa sinua
Tried to do it in french yesterday... would sound pretty stupid... ;)
Donne-moi un autre jour
Donne-moi une autre nuit
J'ai besoin d'une seconde chance
Cette fois je le ferai bien
That's the only translation I see that could fit...
It could have been worst... just see what somebody did to Coldplay's The Scientist here.
Steve Campbell wrote:
nitrate wrote:
Hmm.. why wouldn't barney want to sing Krafty in Finnish too. That would be seriously weird.. The chorus for example could be something like this:
Anna mulle vielä yksi päivä (vielä yksi päivä)
Anna toinenkin ilta (vain toinenkin ilta)
Tarvin toisen mahdollisuuden (mahdollisuuden)
Tällä kertaa onnistumme (onnistumme)
Sanon sen vielä kerran (vielä kerran)
Sinun täytyy tietää (sinun täytyy tietää)
Täytyy muutta mielesi (täytyy muuttaa mielesi)
en koskaan hukkaa sinua
I once enquired of some natives of that land as to the meaning of a Finnish word (which sounds like) "Perkola", based on the fact that it was the only word Tommi Makkinen ever said on a stage, usually after one of his patent using-a-tree-to-get-round-a-corner manouvres hadn't quite paid off. I was informed that it was a "variable intensity swear word", with the level of rudeness being varied by rolling the rrrr longer and general tone of voice.
So "perkola" is "golly gosh" and "PERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRkooooooOoOLLAAAAAHHHHHH!!" is unprintable on a respectable forum like this ( ahem).
Now I dunno if this is true ( hardly worth them lying about unless it's true meaning is deeply embarrassing or something), but if it is, it leads to two thoughts. Firstly, the Finns may swear even better than the Irish and Scots, having developed a whole new cursing technology. And secondly...can you even begin to imagine what a Finnish Barney would have sounded like, circa 1986, shitfaced and rambling????????? the mind boggles.
Your on a right track there It's actually "PERKELE" and your right about the way how you variate the tensity of the swear by adding more "r". It don't mean absolutely anything, but it's still propably the most intense word in our language 
Things are pretty messed up and serious if you here something like "PERRRRKELEEEE, VITTU SAATANA!" around you (I'm quite sure you don't want to hear about the last two. First being very barneyish-kind of genital word and the other one.. well you might guess it). Or then it may be a pure joy someone had and the spontaniously let it out after founding a treasure like Run2 7" from your local record shop while having a vacation..
But now I have to stop swearing or i'll get banned 
This got me thinking about things and I'll be pretty satisfied if Barney stops after Japanese version. He'll probably have problems remembering the times to make his crouch grunching rituals soon. Thank you Bernard from the Japanese version though. At least it gives me a good excuse to buy the Japanese version of WFTSC.
