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Hi! My name is Yann and I love New Order. Even if I'm Gay, I'm not really attracted by the members of the band. However, I feel that something in their songs is very close to the gay sensibility. That's all! what do you think about?

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You want to open pandora's box? :skeptic: :D

Songs have many interpretations, there were many topics on this subject in the past, like if True Faith was about "getting out of the closet"...

Maybe some songs may lead you in thinking about that, but no member from the band is gay... but they did collaborate with a few of course, like the Pet Shop Boys.

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Cue: series of ribald remarks.

I'd say that the emotive note of Barney's vocals, their readiness to embrace dance music at a time when it was only really popular in gay discos and, erm, probably Hooky's leather trousers are good starting points.

I'm sure they'll get a kick out of GIAUE and Jetstream from the latest record, particularly with Ana Matronic's involvement.

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LE GOEC Yann wrote: Even if I'm Gay, I'm not really attracted by the members of the band.

well they are all getting on a bit now aren't they...It'd be like me saying I don't really fancy Debbie Harry

A lot of their stuff has roots in 'Gay' music, but then a lot of their stuff is also very 'straight' - all of Get Ready for example. Don't think it really makes any difference either way to be honest - if you like it,you like it, regardless of what scene the music belongs in.

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Waouuu!!! It's really fast comments! I don't care if they're gay or not (even if their attitude is sometimes really strange...). Anyway, they're great! Maybe Bi?

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Duh -- I am gay as well and I still don't think Jetstream is any good. (Guilt, though. Mmmmmm.)

By the way, hi everyone, you forced me to come out of my lurking closet ;)

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Well put it this way, they're all conventionally married. Some several times over. Not that it's an argument killer, but it certainly seems as though they're straightish.

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I read an article recently which suggested that Bernard was keen on both tomato sauce AND mustard relish - I don't know how this fits in with your plans El Gecko?

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Boy I really like this thread! :uhoh:

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depthcharge wrote: Well put it this way, they're all conventionally married. Some several times over. Not that it's an argument killer, but it certainly seems as though they're straightish.

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When I saw the WIM video I had some questions about BS.

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Hi, Ray! Glad you're Here!!! I know a lot of Gay people who loves New Order!

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The band have gone on record saying they enjoyed the energy and atmosphere of gay disco back in the 80s. This has been an undoubted influence on their music. That doesn't make them gay though, obviously.

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Like what, for example? As far as I can remember, there's nothing wrong with WIM video, P.

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When I saw the WIM video I had some questions about BS.

When I saw the TBTHOG video I had some questions about Phil.

Oh wait - that was still Gillian. My bad.

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Funny this thread came up today; I was just thinking about this, since every time I pull up "Krafty" in the iTunes Music Store, Apple provides a handy link to their "iTunes Essentials" collection entitled, "Gay Pride: Boys." Why? Because "Bizarre Love Triangle" is included, along with some Pet Shop Boys, Soft Cell, etc.

Obviously, BLT is essential to any collection.

Except "Gay Pride: Girls," which is all sombre, folksy weepin' and strummin'.

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NObabe wrote: Like what, for example? As far as I can remember, there's nothing wrong with WIM video, P.

As I recall, there's a scene with the band and an automobile, and BS did not seem like the butchest person one might imagine.

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Ah! Ah! So Funny! Of course the attitude of BS is so gay sometimes!!! The more is getting old, the more he looks gay. Maybe he found his real nature!

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To clarify:

Bernard is riding in an American automobile, dressed in a '70's Elvis' suit, during the latter moments of the WIM video.

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Yes, I found that too on itunes! I was really surprised and quite angry! It might be paradoxal, but I hate Gay compil!

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Patrick wrote:

depthcharge wrote: Well put it this way, they're all conventionally married. Some several times over. Not that it's an argument killer, but it certainly seems as though they're straightish.

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When I saw the WIM video I had some questions about BS.

The gay-est NO images I can recall were a series of off-stage photos from one of their US tours, mid-80s. Barney in particular, he sported a very Trade blonde haircut, was quite tanned and seemed to relish getting photographed shirtless.

Think they appear in one of the NO softcovers, perhaps the Mick Middles one.

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I never thought Barney was a gay. Not that I have anything against someone being a gay. My friend is a gay and he's way a better person than most of the girls I've met.

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Huntsman wrote: To clarify:

Bernard is riding in an American automobile, dressed in a '70's Elvis' suit, during the latter moments of the WIM video.

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In a set of sunnies I think he swiped from the set of Risky Business.

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Spotnick wrote: ...but they did collaborate with a few of course, like the Pet Shop Boys.

Are the Pet Shop Boys gay??! :eek: :uhoh:

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Yes and some of us have our doubts about Boy George.

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How about Mickael Jackson?

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Anyway, I'm living in Tokyo and I wanted to meet some gay japanese boys who also loves New Order... But, it's really difficult to find! I went to a special Joy Division&New Order party (which was really great experience for me!), but there was only 10 people and not gay at all!!!

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What about Adam Ant??

Who cares anyway, it's the music that matters. Gay disco was where it was at. Gay bands like Motley Crue, Poisen 80s hair bands et all despite being gay put out shit music.

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boy...what a bunch of silly predictable responses to this non-comment....specially from the straight participants

49 yr old gay man here....been a NewOrder-obsessive since I bought BlueMonday (when it was new) cause the store clerk recommended it. Never thought about the band being gay, but was ALWAYS appreciative of the dj's in gay clubs embracing them AND Depeche Mode, because of the intelligence of the music...actually something to sink your teeth into amongst the diva disco and piano house...that is why NO had and has a HUGE gay following.

who cares about what kind of sex these men have?

one question though.....how bout BS and Johnny?

IM KIDDING

now that we've grown up together....

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For me, Crystal and krafty sounds like a song for man to man. Only 2 boys, I mean 2 gay boys, can have that kind of feeling so deeply.

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