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Do I hear some female backing vocals on WFTSC? Who's doing them?

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Barney's sounding a little shaky in WFTSC? I wondered if he'd struggle, it's a tough one to nail. Great to hear it live though, I'm getting seriously jealous of you ticket-holders now.

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Bernard did indeed sound shakey. Fucked up a lyric, as usual and during HNWYD he let out a little yelp! I'm excited to see them but listening to those tracks should drive home the point that New Order absolutely suck when they play live. It may be exciting to be there and watch them, but their ability to perform their songs is worse than some 3rd rate Hotel circuit band. Hey Now sounds more like Brit-Pop 10 years too late than it does on the record. Hopefully they'll have a few more rehearsals under their belt. It will still be fun but I think Hooky and Morris should get another synth player and tour without Bernard. He really is an awful performer.

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Ruined in a day wrote: Do I hear some female backing vocals on WFTSC? Who's doing them?

A tape ! There were no female on stage :rolleyes:

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: ... and during HNWYD he let out a little yelp!

...and just after that he made his little stupid dance :thumb:

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you know, i was visualizing him doing the dance with the monkey face. it will be interesting to see who covers each guitar part.

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: Bernard did indeed sound shakey. Fucked up a lyric, as usual and during HNWYD he let out a little yelp! I'm excited to see them but listening to those tracks should drive home the point that New Order absolutely suck when they play live. It may be exciting to be there and watch them, but their ability to perform their songs is worse than some 3rd rate Hotel circuit band. Hey Now sounds more like Brit-Pop 10 years too late than it does on the record. Hopefully they'll have a few more rehearsals under their belt. It will still be fun but I think Hooky and Morris should get another synth player and tour without Bernard. He really is an awful performer.

at least it seems (unfortunately not sounds) that they've rehearsed some of the new stuff

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: you know, i was visualizing him doing the dance with the monkey face. it will be interesting to see who covers each guitar part.

Phil done most of the work on guitar. :thumb: Barney had problems with his guitar on every tracks.

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In A Lonely Place wrote:

Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: you know, i was visualizing him doing the dance with the monkey face. it will be interesting to see who covers each guitar part.

Phil done most of the work on guitar. :thumb: Barney had problems with his guitar on every tracks.

The studio couldnt even help this time??

eCKOh

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Marco Pleil wrote:

Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: Bernard did indeed sound shakey. Fucked up a lyric, as usual and during HNWYD he let out a little yelp! I'm excited to see them but listening to those tracks should drive home the point that New Order absolutely suck when they play live. It may be exciting to be there and watch them, but their ability to perform their songs is worse than some 3rd rate Hotel circuit band. Hey Now sounds more like Brit-Pop 10 years too late than it does on the record. Hopefully they'll have a few more rehearsals under their belt. It will still be fun but I think Hooky and Morris should get another synth player and tour without Bernard. He really is an awful performer.

at least it seems (unfortunately not sounds) that they've rehearsed some of the new stuff

couldn't agree more. It will be great to hear the new stuff live. Hopefully we'll get Turn or Guilt too.

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote:

Marco Pleil wrote:

Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: Bernard did indeed sound shakey. Fucked up a lyric, as usual and during HNWYD he let out a little yelp! I'm excited to see them but listening to those tracks should drive home the point that New Order absolutely suck when they play live. It may be exciting to be there and watch them, but their ability to perform their songs is worse than some 3rd rate Hotel circuit band. Hey Now sounds more like Brit-Pop 10 years too late than it does on the record. Hopefully they'll have a few more rehearsals under their belt. It will still be fun but I think Hooky and Morris should get another synth player and tour without Bernard. He really is an awful performer.

at least it seems (unfortunately not sounds) that they've rehearsed some of the new stuff

couldn't agree more. It will be great to hear the new stuff live. Hopefully we'll get Turn or Guilt too.

I'd like to hear turn my way and 60 mph live since we never got them hear after GET READY

eCKOh

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eCKOh wrote:

In A Lonely Place wrote:

Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: you know, i was visualizing him doing the dance with the monkey face. it will be interesting to see who covers each guitar part.

Phil done most of the work on guitar. :thumb: Barney had problems with his guitar on every tracks.

The studio couldnt even help this time??

eCKOh

He had to adjust his guitar at the end of every track. :skeptic: He even broke a string in the middle of the 2nd take of Regret and had to start a 3rd take with another guitar. But Barney keep his cool :thumb:

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Spotnick wrote: Canal+ March 21st 2001

time machine?

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He sounds servicable on WFTSC and Hey Now... On Krafty he sounds awful. Well, he's never been so great live, has he? It really exposes his shaky voice - I've always wondered when they record in studio, how much work it is for him to do the vocals, how much he has to go syllable by syllable - seeing how when he tries to sing the whole songs at once, he usually sounds amatuerish at best.

Still, thanks to Lonely Place for sharing, its cool to hear this stuff.

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Marvin Kay wrote: He sounds servicable on WFTSC and Hey Now... On Krafty he sounds awful. Well, he's never been so great live, has he? It really exposes his shaky voice - I've always wondered when they record in studio, how much work it is for him to do the vocals, how much he has to go syllable by syllable - seeing how when he tries to sing the whole songs at once, he usually sounds amatuerish at best. Still, thanks to Lonely Place for sharing, its cool to hear this stuff.

Well singing AND playing at the same time isn't always that easy live, where in the studio you don't have/need to!

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Barney always sounds like this when he sings "new" songs. Rehearse and get confidence. Can't wait to see they doing this in Chicago.

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Marvin Kay wrote: Still, thanks to Lonely Place for sharing, its cool to hear this stuff.

Thanks :thumb:

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Marco Pleil wrote:

Marvin Kay wrote: He sounds servicable on WFTSC and Hey Now... On Krafty he sounds awful. Well, he's never been so great live, has he? It really exposes his shaky voice - I've always wondered when they record in studio, how much work it is for him to do the vocals, how much he has to go syllable by syllable - seeing how when he tries to sing the whole songs at once, he usually sounds amatuerish at best. Still, thanks to Lonely Place for sharing, its cool to hear this stuff.

Well singing AND playing at the same time isn't always that easy live, where in the studio you don't have/need to!

Good point :thumb: And when you add problems with his guitar...

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Here is the complete setlist of the show:

  • Jetstream
  • Road To Ruin (Hey Now What You Doing)
  • Waiting For The Sirens' Call
  • Krafty
  • Crystal
  • Love Will Tear Us Apart
  • Regret
  • Temptation

Encore:

  • Regret (Barney broke a string)
  • Regret
  • Love Will Tear Us Apart
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A huge thank you! :thumb: I really like this performance, I think there's an improvement from the NME Awards, a lot of energy, Phil and Hooky sound great. Only mild disappointment is Bernard's taped voice for the chorus of Krafty, maybe Hooky and Phil could have sung those parts...

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Mick Aneworderfan wrote: A huge thank you! :thumb: I really like this performance, I think there's an improvement from the NME Awards, a lot of energy, Phil and Hooky sound great. Only mild disappointment is Bernard's taped voice for the chorus of Krafty, maybe Hooky and Phil could have sung those parts...

On Krafty, some keyboard parts were taped too. :nod: Phil can't play together guitar and keyboard :shrug:

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I can tolerate better taped female backing vocals as the singer is not there, but to hear Bernard sing live and taped at the same time is ridiculous. BTW I'm even more convinced it's Gillian on the title track!

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Yeah, I think its Gillian too. I want to believe it's her. She really needs to be there.

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It's obvious that Bernard's voice is enhanced in studio these days.

I hate to admit, but time goes by, and Bernard's voice isn't getting better... you have the raw version right now... I was a bit shocked when I heard it at the NME awards.

I've seen worst (W. Axl Rose for instance, they did a performance at the MTV awards, that was awful!!), but I'm not sure Bernard will be able to keep touring for a long time... :shrug:

Not that I mind, but he sounds vulnerable and they he shouts and you are very surprised by the strenght of his voice... :eek3:

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someone needs to give the man a glass of Pernod, or two ....

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