The Huntsman Leaves the Building ...

Hello to all my dear friends of the earth, unfortunately my existence on the OrderLine has met an untimely demise. Without any notification 'Huntsman' (that's me that is, or was) has been awfully renamed 'Banned Member' and cast off the site for good nails. I can no longer 'log-on' as my password, plain clothes and empty crisp packets have been tragically removed and thrown into the fiery skip of doom for no apparent reason.

The few threads I last made an appearance in were these:

'What is there in all this Joy Division? I'll tell ...' 'Atmosphere' and '1000.....'

Perhaps my comments in the first of the above threads were the final nail in my own Pringles tube type coffin arena. Harsh, to say the least. 'Banned Member' indeed, makes me feel a bit soiled.

Well I've quickly signed in as a new member just to relay that I'm a bit confused by my own removal and that I would never go without saying ta-ra! I guess the Web Fettlers will soon work out the link between my new name and the old one and boot me off again for mentioning either eggs or vegetables.

My epitaph:

'I was Robbed!'

Farewell to all ... the Huntsman loves you! ... never forget it!

Do you mean to say you really have been shown the door Hunts. Or is it just that your login does'nt work no more?

Well Muff firstly someone changed my name to 'Banned Member', which I thought was a bit oddball, then that was it! ... no more log-ins for me.

When I'm detected as H II I'll be banished once again.

Going to break my work silence briefly . Is this really the case Huntsman - if it is, it really is going to be the last time I post here. Do the webmasters really want a load of dull Morris Fan clones spouting tosh which we've all read somewhere else before? I can only assume you've got the boot coz of your criticism on that Joy Div thread

Oh dear. I hate controversy and conflict. However, I would have to agree with Mr. Briggs that if this action is not reversed I think we should all depart.

Makes me warm inside fellas, thanks it means a lot. Don't let me influence a mass exodus of untold proportions here, that was not my intention. I just wanted to say bye properly.

I am still confused, imagine someone had changed your name to 'Banned Member' and cancelled your log-in ... I think subtlety went out the window.

Can you imagine how annoyed I am after all the hard work I attempted for the cause?

I'm with Snake and G-man on this Hunts. If this is'nt just Seb the webmaster having a giggle at your expense then it's toodle-oo from me too!

This is getting weird...

Especially since you weren't even posting much lately, Huntsy...

I sincerely hope I'm not reading the last of you on this site but, anyway, we'll keep in touch by email...

Yes, Huntsy, I think you have behaved with admirable restraint now and in some prior similar incidents.

My only prior significant experience with a message board (devoted to a wholly unrelated subject) ended by my choice after a somewhat similar manifestation of censorship.

If it was (or is) a gag by Sebsy the Web Fettler then its certainly got me! ... banning me from the site and changing my name is a bit naughty as surely by now he knows I never mean any harm. In the threadbare that was locked into oblivion I also attempted to 'ease the tension' like when a new Pringles tube is prized open to that glorious 'popping' sound that makes a grown man weak at the knee caps.

Thing is, what's he going to say, get stuffed Huntsman you spoke slightly out of turn!? ... I didn't even fucking swear.

Still, I'll always know that people from other countries and dimensions also appreciated 'Throw Me a Bottle' in a similar way.

Expect this threadbare to be locked at any second when Sebsy gets out of the sack!

Rooster, Patty, Smuffler, Snake Charmer and the gang, you are all very good eggs.

... maybe its because he couldn't think of another name for anyone reaching 2,000 posts!? ... 'Member with Terrible Indigestion' was surely the answer?

Well, Huntsy, I hope this can be resolved in a friendly way, but if not, thanks to you and to the many other wonderful people I've met here! It's been a very fine experience to get to know you and I will never forget it.

I've just read your comments in the JD thread Hunts and can't see for the life of me what would cause you to be booted out especially having also read some of the shit posted after you had your say. It seems to me that there are one or two people here intent on stirring up ill feeling between the many fettlers who fettle on this good ship, Michael McDermott being one and possibly Morris Fan too. Both have made stupid, unconstructive comments lately, though MF doesn't seem to want to back up what he said choosing instead to deny he meant anything by it. It's little over a week since Seb himself spoke of renaming a smilie after you and now this. What will be next??

Originally posted by Muffy I'm with Snake and G-man on this Hunts. If this is'nt just Seb the webmaster having a giggle at your expense then it's toodle-oo from me too!

And me, I swear it.

Originally posted by Muffy I've just read your comments in the JD thread Hunts and can't see for the life of me what would cause you to be booted out especially having also read some of the shit posted after you had your say. It seems to me that there are one or two people here intent on stirring up ill feeling between the many fettlers who fettle on this good ship, Michael McDermott being one and possibly Morris Fan too. Both have made stupid, unconstructive comments lately, though MF doesn't seem to want to back up what he said choosing instead to deny he meant anything by it. It's little over a week since Seb himself spoke of renaming a smilie after you and now this. What will be next??

If anyone should go, it should be McDermott who, after getting his yellow card, then stated that he stood by his original postings, even expressing that he passionately believed in what he had said. This posting of mine may not be of the required 27,464 words length, may not mention Joy Division in quasi-romantic student essay terms, and may not be instantly interchangeable with the works of Turmel or even Mel C, but it is sincere and equally as valid. As a site owner and message board moderator myself, I am acutely aware of the problems faced by people who occasionally slip into just a tad too much vernacular. A wave of a yellow card and threat of further sanctions usually does the trick. The real problems are those who perpetuate hate and bigotry. It is they we should be looking to eradicate, not those who seek to entertain with witty and irreverant comment, they that are the lifeblood of any online community. Of course, we could all go around in our trenchcoats and try to be Curtis et al, if that is what floats our boat. I know which side of the fence I would rather be, and if that makes me a member of the growing band of disillusioned outcasts, so be it.

What the hell happened to this forum?? Its all arguments, banned members and very little talk about a little thing called NEW ORDER! isn't that we are all here for??

If Huntsman leaves I'll die.... i was living on his left over pringles.

Something fishy is going on....our esteemed webmaster no longer has a name.

I think I'll be keeping quiet from now on as well, being one of those "working class football hooligans" that only posts one-liners...

Hey Tim, I hope you don't think i'm tarring you with the same brush as the two offending articles i've named. You are one of the 'lifeblood' members of this forum in my eyes, witty, articulate, and clearly intelligent. It's fettlers like you, Hunts, Shug, Liv, Texan name changer, Snake, Tabsy etc. etc. that make this site so entertaining. God forbid any of us should be booted of the board for not mentioning our heroes often enough when there are bigots afoot spouting their hate filled diatribe at every opportunity!

Originally posted by Muffy Hey Tim, I hope you don't think i'm tarring you with the same brush as the two offending articles i've named. You are one of the 'lifeblood' members of this forum in my eyes, witty, articulate, and clearly intelligent. It's fettlers like you, Hunts, Shug, Liv, Texan name changer, Snake, Tabsy etc. etc. that make this site so entertaining. God forbid any of us should be booted of the board for not mentioning our heroes often enough when there are bigots afoot spouting their hate filled diatribe at every opportunity!

No mate, I didn't !! :) I was trying to point out the real offenders in all this, namely Bogot of Plano, Tx.....

It's the cigar smoke from your signature smiley, obviously.

My dear Nigel,

I'm not quite sure what a "bogot" is, but coming from the egalitarian paradise where you live, it must be something sweet.

xxxx oooo

Your cyber pal,

T U A

Originally posted by Michael McDermott My dear Nigel,I'm not quite sure what a "bogot" is, but coming from the egalitarian paradise where you live, it must be something sweet. xxxx ooooYour cyber pal,T U A

It's interesting how you seem to use the term 'egalitarian' as if it were not something to be held dear or valued. You are a bigot sir and the sooner you piss off the better!

.........and a trouble maker!!

I wish someone would kick him out. He's about as popular as that Jerry bloke was.

To focus on the original subject of this thread, and after I read your latest interventions, Hunts, I CANNOT FIGURE OUT what the fuck you wrote here to be thrown away in such an ugly manner.

I sincerely hope this is an error from our webmaster, but just in case it's not, then Seb & Nic, please consider I'm leaving this board, AND REMOVE ALL MATERIAL CONCERNING MY POSTINGS, PROFILES, IMAGES, SIGNATURES and so on from this server.. (I know there were not so many, but I don't want anything left from any of my contributions since I'm not there anymore)

But I DO hope it IS an error :) - thx.

Dear Muffy,

"It's interesting how you seem to use the term 'egalitarian' as if it were not something to be held dear or valued. You are a bigot sir and the sooner you piss off the better!"

Let me ask you a civil question. If you were personally attacked (on this board or otherwise), how would you respond? Or more to the point, how would you respond to attacks that simply were not true?

The term "bigot" has been thrown in my direction like so many venom dipped daggers. And all because of the content of one over-the-top posting.

As I learned (the hard way) the terms "frog" and "Frenchy" are considered racist by folks on your side of the pond. I all honesty, I DIDN'T know that was the case. I can assure you that it is NOT the case in Plano, in Texas, or in the United States.

Now, to address "egalitarianism". The reason I throw that term about with such sarcasam is because the liberal left has coopted it for themselves and distorted it to such an extent as to have rendered it useless.

I do not practice "moral relativism". I do not indulge in "situational ethics". The is no such thing as "cultural pluralism". I believe there is a (R)ight and (W)rong. I was Wrong to have ripped the French people the way I did.

As far as being a "trouble maker" , I earned it for the thread I started. However, I will not sit still and be the victim of cyber drive-bys.

Let me say one more thing. And, this should be taken with all due respect. It seems that most of the posters here respect diversity, inclusion and yes, egalitarianism. From my short time here though, it appears, at times, to be a one way street. I think that one of the webmasters even addressed this attitude in the latest JD thread.

I have no quarrel with anyone on this board and I won't cry to the webmasters when attacked. But, I will defend myself.

I'm willing to move on if y'all are. Just lay off the "bigot" smack. Really, will you place that label on me after ONE posting using terms that I didn't know were considered "racist"?

T U A

I don't know, i spend xmas at the out-laws and all breaks loose !!!! Who is Mikey Mouse McDermott ?????? (anyone want to place a bet its the lovely Jamie Oliver extracting his revenge). I'm with you Hunter, if Sebs means what he says he obviously has very different ideas for the site than the rest of us.

ps

whats happened to Marty in my absence ???

pps

nice to your still around Muffy :)

If Huntsman's out, I'm out. Simple as that!

Personnally, I've had experiance with message boards being mucked up by people claiming to have valuable things to say, then lashing out at those who disagree. Morris Fan, i hereby apologize for any insults i've directed your way, sometimes they were in jest (like all the Paul Morley comments), but you don't have the luxery of hearing my tone when I say it (as in real life), so i'm sure I came off as more than harsh. Whatever ramblings you feel posessed to post, I will read thru and thru before saying anything. You're alright by me

Mr McD, on the other hand, you have done little or nothing in the way of adding to the conversation on the forum, so i can't see why anyone would allow you to continue. Maybe seb thought it'd be fun to have a little controversy, i don't know. The point is, you've been abrasive and hardline since your initial query about the French. It's one thing to be offended by something you hear that seems uncalled for, but when you responded in your equally offensive matter, well, you got what you paid for.

Seb, Huntsy doesn't do anything more than say what he thinks. He's a valued member of this community, as you can plainly see. Keep Huntsy on, otherwise me and a lot more regulars might start looking for a new home.

Taboo #7,

"Mr McD, on the other hand, you have done little or nothing in the way of adding to the conversation on the forum, so i can't see why anyone would allow you to continue. Maybe seb thought it'd be fun to have a little controversy, i don't know. The point is, you've been abrasive and hardline since your initial query about the French. It's one thing to be offended by something you hear that seems uncalled for, but when you responded in your equally offensive matter, well, you got what you paid for."

It's interesting to have myself seen as the standard bearer for someone who should be "booted off" this board. I'm not quiet sure what Huntsman did to be banned and it's obvious that he's got good friends here.

Now, seeing as how I DON'T ;) , let me speak a little about my "abrasive and hardline" attitude to the responses directed at me and the cyber drive-bys that I stumble upon. I will defend my principles and myself in general. Really Taboo #7, some of the profanity that's been directed my way in the guise of "righteous indignation" would start a fist fight in your town and in mine (I ran accross some very interesting derivations of my surname). Not much constructive criticism was to be found.

But hey, if folks want to continue with the broadsides, that's fine. I'm a big boy.

As I said, I'm through with the anger and have appologized for ripping the French people.

Late. Peace out. See ya, wouldn't wanna.......you know the rest.

T U A