Get Ready Revisited

Originally posted by Johnny Giles > Originally posted by Nicolas LeBlanc> .. and I still ask myself why the fools at the head of the labels didn't release Turn My Way yet.....> > They must be waiting for something, they can't all be idiots.. They must be waiting for a tour...

Dunno if you saw the 'Secret Gig Cancelled' thread re USA tour?...some guy at Bar Cuba, where Peter Hook is a part owner, told me on Tuesday this week that NO are touring The States in April. Apparently he picked this up from The Hookmeister himself.

No further info at this stage. Soon as I know anything so will you.

lets hope so...and they better be in NYC!!!!

By the way, Brian, on Close Range, I think the dance club references are actually probably (maybe) meant to refer to some time in the past, with the present perhaps being a follow up in terms of decline. That is, assuming the "speaker" in the song is a contemporary of the band, and the subject is also a contemporary, they all would have been thirty about fifteen years ago. Is this making any sense?

i play it alot (just yesterday in the car) and my favs are still Crystal, Close Range, Someone Like You and Primitive Notion...although all of them are fine.

It's a pity my favs are the b-sides, actually..

Especially PITL (that loud ol' bass synth sound..mmmmh!), and the typical Kraftwerk "saw" sound in the end of 'Sabotage'

Three months in from the US release, I'm still playing it a lot. Haven't really thought about where it places in the listing of NO albums yet. Don't really like B. Corgan much at all, so Turn My Way has grown on me a lot, as has Rock The Shack (except for the chorus). Not much hope for Slow Jam, but when that comes on I try not to focus on those lyrics.

It's funny but I love Slow Jam and Close Range. My preference in order is:

60 mph Crystal Slow Jam Close Range Run Wild Turn My Way Primitive Notion Some Like You Rock the Shack Vicious Streak

Very good album and I loved the guitar thing. Of course it cannot be played live anly wiht Barney doing the job.

Originally posted by Geaux Hagen just finished listening to Get Ready for the 1000 time in 6months. the promo copy is much better than the official release so my main problem is the tracklisting. Slow Jam should not have made the album. The rest of the tracks are very good (even turn my way gets a full listen after all my attacks on Billy C(still hate the f@#ker)) I play it at work and everyone who hears it, loves it. they all have stories about BLT or Blue Monday and can't believe NewOrder still make music. Get Ready is album of the Year, hands down. Vicious Streak and Primitive Notion have the best lyrics and i still haven't sorted out the intent of Close Range. Anyone have any theories as to who the subject/speaker would be? lying on the floor/30years or more...interesting lyrics and good music but what's it about?

I started this thread, so i suppose i should give my opinion...

I like every track except slow jam. I have tried to like it but the lyrics just do my head in. My personal faves are crystal and vicious streak. I think someone like you would be better without the "ooh ooh-ooh ooohhhya" backing vocals.

I used to hate Rock The Shackbah, but after hearing it live i kinda like it now.

Originally posted by Geaux Hagen Sloppy Seconds, you hit the nail on the head with that bit about the end of Run Wild. I eventually got over the Jesus/Jeh..bits and now it's the end that totally fucks with the meaning and intention of the song. I've said it before and i'll say it again/i don't like the rhyme he stuck at the end/ Not only is it totally out of character for the speaker of the song, but it's ripped from the Stone Roses i believe.Run Wild is garbage when compared to Dream Attack.

I disagree about this. Actually don't mind Run Wild now, it's intentions are admirable and that orchestral sweep that kicks in at the end is superb.. It took me a while to accept the Jesus lyric however. I always smile at the end of the tune- I think it's a good sort of quirky throwaway footnote to the album.. A song like this would have never been written by the band in their youthful heyday (too soppy) and the last line actually saves the song from being too much of a 'lighters in the air' ballad. It lends it a bit of anti-pop cred, however hackneyed or borrowed it may appear.

Originally posted by depthcharge > Originally posted by Geaux Hagen> Sloppy Seconds, you hit the nail on the head with that bit about the end of Run Wild. I eventually got over the Jesus/Jeh..bits and now it's the end that totally fucks with the meaning and intention of the song. I've said it before and i'll say it again/i don't like the rhyme he stuck at the end/ > > Not only is it totally out of character for the speaker of the song, but it's ripped from the Stone Roses i believe.> > Run Wild is garbage when compared to Dream Attack.

I disagree about this. Actually don't mind Run Wild now, it's intentions are admirable and that orchestral sweep that kicks in at the end is superb.. It took me a while to accept the Jesus lyric however. I always smile at the end of the tune- I think it's a good sort of quirky throwaway footnote to the album.. A song like this would have never been written by the band in their youthful heyday (too soppy) and the last line actually saves the song from being too much of a 'lighters in the air' ballad. It lends it a bit of anti-pop cred, however hackneyed or borrowed it may appear.

The point being that the song is about/for Gillian's seriously ill kid, then Barney comes in with some shite about getting high......

I'm still not sure about it to be honest, even after hundreds of plays. I like Crystal and Vicious Streak, and Primitive Notion is good, but apart from that there's quite a lot in there that is disappointing. I can't understand the need to collaborate with nobodies like Corgan or that bloke off Primal Scream whose name I can't even remember. I just read the message above about the subject of Run Wild and I have to agree that Barney ruins a sensitive song with that last line. Slow Jam is a bit of a let down, I thought they were better than that, especially when you consider some of the songs they omitted. 60 Miles an Hour sounded good on the record but was terrible at Brixton I thought, it sounded weak. Mind you, I didn't like Republic for a year, so maybe there is still hope.

Republic didn't have a single song that sucks as bad as Slow Jam or RTS. Get Ready should have looked like this

Crystal Primitive Notion Close Range 60 Miles an Hour Sabotage Vicious Streak Player Someone Like You Turn My Stomach Behind Closed Doors Run Wild

Slow Jam and RTS could have been "mystery tracks" that we all hunted for and talked about...maybe the wait would make em better. Either way, both are worthless noise makers that occupy about 12% of an album that needs all the class it can get. Big mistakes being made behind the scenes in the NewOrder camp.

Originally posted by Shugzv Brian mate, I'd rather have RTS and SJ than Spooky and Everyone Everywhere Remeber that's just my humble opinion;)

Scoobied yer brain Shugster ? Spooky and Everyone Everywhere piss on Cock the Slack and Fast Marmalade. E E is a good effort, and would have been lapped up LowLife era !

Primitive Notion horray for Peter Hook best bassline from him in years that in itself makees it a great album just aslong as you stop it before the horrible last track (which i refuse to name because i just cant deal with it)

Crystal is classic NO and I also like SLY...I think its got a touch of the Low Life's about it. Turn My Way is good because its sort of different from the rest of the album and Behind Closed Doors is an excellent addition to the roster of great B side releases.

However the rest of the album is 'ok' and is kinda New Order by numbers. I would place it joint 5th with Movement out of the 7 albums after Low Life, Technique, PCL and Brotherhood.

Originally posted by Rocker of the Shack! Yeah...and what is it with this incessant bashing of Rock the Chickenshack??? It's a frigging cool song...and it takes our mind off the heat down here.....

Mr Gillespie (or whatever his name is) has a crap voice.

Originally posted by Shugzv Brian mate, I'd rather have RTS and SJ than Spooky and Everyone Everywhere Remeber that's just my humble opinion;)

After listening to GR all the way through, without skipping, for the first time in quite a while, SJ actually didn't sound so bad. However, Spooky for me is the number 2 on Republic (World being number 1).

Originally posted by Shugzv ....so can we stop criticising these people - or I eat the guy's cat from 3 doors away

Eat the cat, eat the cat, eat the cat, eat the cat...

It's time to eat the cat.

Originally posted by Shugzv > Originally posted by Patrick> > > > Originally posted by Shugzv> > Brian mate, I'd rather have RTS and SJ than Spooky and Everyone Everywhere Remeber that's just my humble opinion;)>

After listening to GR all the way through, without skipping, for the first time in quite a while, SJ actually didn't sound so bad. However, Spooky for me is the number 2 on Republic (World being number 1).

I listen to the album every night Patsy - you end up loving all of em As fer spooky - it's not a disaster - I was just using that as a reference point for the 2 on GR - although I'm surprised you rate it so highly mate;) If World's no 1 - where's Regret?

I would probably allow that Regret is number 3, Shugzy. But it is actual truth that I listen to World and Spooky far more often than Regret. But about SJ, I was actually quite surprised that I was somewhat liking it. As for RTS, I've always liked that one.

Originally posted by Shugzv Patsy - have ye got the Lamacq session? fuckin brilliant versions of Slow Jam, Close Range, Rock the Shack and Yer Silent Face...top quality, apparently they decided to make a few changes from the originals and only allowed themselves THAT day to rehearse Seemed to work a lot better I thought;)

No, I don't have that, Shugzy. I only have some of the early dates from the current round.