FINAL STATEMENT (Dreams Are Over - PART 2)

Oh dear, sorry lads, I'm having a bad day.

I would still go hunting though.

Christ every time I come back to this board theres something there to Suprise me again

You really are Nobody's fool Huntsy

Since I saw rachel in it(below), thats becaome one of my favourite shirts

etc etc

Hunts, just thought I'd point out I hadn't deduced that(your real name) when I changed my name to Huntsman and posted that Haicut 100 was the first band I went to see, they were. And I thought your name was Nicholas Hunter even though I'd seen the Hunter/Heywood Site for San Francisco. err hope that's clear.

Briggsy, you little tinker, how can mentioning that own goal be construed as not mentioning something intended to wind me up? Now I've deduced you support Mansfield I'll be keeping an eye out for their results.

Originally posted by Maggie Simpson© Hunts, just thought I'd point out I hadn't deduced that(your real name) when I changed my name to Huntsman and posted that Haicut 100 was the first band I went to see, they were. And I thought your name was Nicholas Hunter even though I'd seen the Hunter/Heywood Site for San Francisco. err hope that's clear. Briggsy, you little tinker, how can mentioning that own goal be construed as not mentioning something intended to wind me up? Now I've deduced you support Mansfield I'll be keeping an eye out for their results.

wind you up in rather than piss you off. In a friendly way of course....;)

Originally posted by Huntsman Oh dear, sorry lads, I'm having a bad day.I would still go hunting though.

Heh heh heh hehhehehehehe :D

Took you a while did it... maybe i should have said my name is Wayne Carr or Aaron Mycock or something.

Originally posted by Seb Briggs wind you up in rather than piss you off. In a friendly way of course....;)

Get back to work.

Originally posted by Huntsman Thanks Keeper of the Majestic Key of Life.Now the rat has escaped from the baggage, and for all those who aren't bothered, this is the construction of my tag name on the good ship chicken wings:Real Name:Nicholas 'Hunter' HeywoodWith just a few strategic shifts of only 8 letters, we can formulate this:'Huntsman'a nick-name several people have used for me in 'real life' since I was born in a soup bowl back in the 60's ... the 1860's.Its nice to know we have another 'Hunt' in the area. We should go hunting together and spear grouse for our dinners. Don't worry though, I won't tell no-one.Incidentally, the eighties pop singer Nick Heyward hasd a marginally different spelling which I always say to people when they mention the hilarious similarities, every day of the year.

Certain amount of empathy accompanies this riposte, as one of my colleagues at the footy has the name Stephen Astley. His cousin is the fabled but sadly never gagged (p)Rick Astley. To combat 20 years of hurt he added his wife's maiden name, to become Astley-Morton. The urine is still extracted on a daily basis, indeed we almost beseeched a calendar change from our leader and mentor Blair (T) to allow us more than 365 opportunities to extract said urine from beleaguered popstar cousin. Defintely need a ciggy....(was going to put "fag", then remembered where old Maccy D comes from and decided not to allow him another bilious belch).

Well, in response to my being named Public Enemy #7, let me say that my threats to leave were based solely on the thought that Huntsy wasen't coming back, meaning a dearth of good humor which could only be bad news for the site. Now that he's back and better than ever, I have no reason to throw my lot in with the "adios amigos" crowd. I take no offence at being named to the Nuremburg list of war criminals. Considering the company I'm in with, it's an honor.

Personally I'm very disappointed that I hadn't made that select few. Obviously my contribution round here isn't valued either way ! :(

Might I just point out that the last twenty or so posts above are exactly the reason I love this forum.

Thankyouandgoodnight.

Martin.

Dear Sloppy,

Thank you for showing semantic sensitivity and not using a word that we in NA consider "bigoted".

Here's some irony for you: It would seem that the Huntsman and myself are the only ones to have the word "*un*" creatively melded into our names. (Mine in my surname by a poster.)

Who would have thought we'd be brothers in arms! :)

T U A

It's Giuseppe to you :)

Peace ?

Dear Giuseppe,

Peace. :)

Thank you for the olive branch. It is appreciated.

Michael

oh my god i've missed so much!!!!!!

as usual, ive been watching this one from the sidelines. i have to admit the callous side of me found it very entertaining. all this malarky was totally unnecessary though, it never ceases to amaze me how events can snowball and before you know it someones blown his top, had a go and buggered off for good. what a shame. seb must be feeling rather underappreciated, poor sod, otherwise i doubt hed lash out in such an unpleasant manner; he seemed to be a reasonably easy-going fella, well most of the time anyway; although there were some signs that he was starting to crack. oh well, dont want to start dissecting it all...

Seb and Nic, your job was really great till now. No other New Order fan made so much for them like you two did. I really understand that it's very difficult to keep the quality of the site without being supported, but you should keep trying and get some kind of advertisement support or record label support. The thing is, your gret job cannot be throw away in the litter. I understand that you're upset with some people that visit the site but that's very normal when you run a public thing. It's like when we talk about politicians or football players, you cannot please everybody. the only thing you can do is keep the constructive critique and mind about the bad critique to see if you can get something from that. All the rest must be left where it belongs: trash. Last thing: New Order is the best man. You've grown up but don't forget the best moments of your life with a New Order song in the back! Lucky for you and us!

No point in me just going over what everyone else has said.

I just personally find it a bit unfair that certain members had to be "named and shamed" on the board itself. Hardly professional. In my profession, if i made someone feel humiliated or uncomfortable I could find myself on disciplinary charges. Its just a shame that other people dont work by these rules.

I salute you Seb (funnily enough you said the same words to me less than a week ago) for everything you have done.

I love this site, and have been here almost everyday since i joined last summer. I have made some very good friends here, and throughly enjoyed meeting people at the gigs in October (Jarvo, Seb Briggs, Hooky Monster, Dave Hibell etc etc) and others too (Chris P, Mike Garrity) and am looking forward to meeting Tim and Shug next weekend. And this I have to thank this site for.

This place has become a haven for me recently, more than ever. Since losing my Dad I have been trying to find things to keep myself occupied, and its here that I have come generally. Reading Sebs comments today hurt me. Now feel as though the place that I used for comfort and escapism has rejected me too. But still, Im a big girl, no point in crying over what Seb has already said and can clearly never be taken back.

As for the rest of you, many of you (especially Shug, Muffy, Tim, Mike Garrity and Jarvo - and the others who emailed me at the time)have helped make the worst few weeks of my life just that bit more bearable...

Liv :(

This site has certainly not lost it's soul. Sebs (and Nic), this is the best site. I certainly understand some of what Sebastien is saying. NewOrderOnline is no longer small enough to be a hobby. It has grown up to be site that needs to be managed by someone full time. The WebMasters have every right to be stressed. On the other hand, we have Huntsman, and whatever he was going through. (Sorry, I've been away for most of this). Sebs said some pretty nasty shit to some of you. I can't decide whose side to take, so I'm not going to. I'm still going to come to this site every fucking day I can, like I have been for the past year. I hope everyone else will do the same.

Agreed Jason. I'll still be posting here. I came to talk NO/JD and there are still many who still wanna do the same. As far as I'm concerned I'll still post here as if nothing has happened. I'm sorry if that may offend some people.

I personnally think that since Seb acknowledged that he had acquired a girlfriend 2 months ago, and his demeaner had changed about the last 2 weeks that could only lead to one conclusion...............................:p

I am genuinely sorry you feel that way, you wanker

My £1's worth ('cause 2p gets you nothing these days):

I hope the site can stay the same as it is now (or, at least, as near to it as possible) even if it is sold. I've been coming here since its early days in its Temptation incarnation (I was one of the first people to join the fan community) and I've watched it grow into the best site on the Net for all things NO-related. I'd like to thank Nic and Seb for that and to say that I think it'd be a tragedy for NO fans if it were to go.

I hadn't picked up any really strong vibes that the site was in any mortal danger of imminent closure really, more that Seb had decided to pull out of it. As Nic says in another thread, there is a lot of work involved, but that he enjoys it as it is a testing ground for his employment. We'll see in time.

Hey Liv, I dug this angel out of my collection for you:

I was going to use it for a record cover many years back...my own ripoff of Technique ;) (seeing as I'd already blatantly ripped off the Low Life cover for my second record). Thank you Mr. Saville...

As far as Dreams Are Over (American Style), Reprise hasn't updated neworderweb.com since the album release here...October 16. You'd think that Get Ready's appearance on so many year-end "best of" lists might give the marketing folks there a clue...oh well.

I guess I bring this up for some perspective...Reprise has a full-time marketing and A&R staff and can't be bothered with tiny little niche nostalgia acts like our lads...even with Billy Corgan attached, who was selling out worldwide arena tours not long ago. I'm thankful for this site and this forum. That olive branch was downright nice...a fella could get all weepy...I kid you not.

Oh well...back to work. Thanks all for listening.

Oh, one other thing. All judgement about the "naming of names" aside...

I'm 34 and married with two children and (until two years ago) a mortgage as well, and it's all I can do to drag these creaky old bones to the computer to sign on. So, though I suppose I can empathize with the pressures of being 28 with a girlfriend...

Just you wait!

"Twenty-four hour potty person"

Originally posted by Gnu Odor Oh, one other thing. All judgement about the "naming of names" aside...I'm 34 and married with two children and (until two years ago) a mortgage as well, and it's all I can do to drag these creaky old bones to the computer to sign on. So, though I suppose I can empathize with the pressures of being 28 with a girlfriend...Just you wait!"Twenty-four hour potty person"

Such demanding things, these girlfriends :) I got rid of mine so I could spend some more time here. Now that's how you should be doing it chaps !

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