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I wonder why it is some people immediately put up a barrier when a band is described as "influenced by New Order". I would have thought that would have been a damn good reason to give them a listen? :shrug:

Anyway, for what it's worth, I love The Killers, I double love Interpol. Listened to The Bravery album a couple of times but it didn't do much for me.

Currently listening to a lot of Editors, the latest in the "inspired by Joy Division" production line.

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Old Blue wrote: I wonder why it is some people immediately put up a barrier when a band is described as "influenced by New Order". I would have thought that would have been a damn good reason to give them a listen? :shrug:

:nod:

I also quite like The Killers and Interpol and The Strokes and I don't mind The Bravery, having said all that I havnae bought any of their albums. Not when Radio 1 have them on all day long:lol:

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part of my distaste comes from HOW these bands managed to get in heavy rotation at Radio 1 and every Clear Channel station in the USA. it's not based on merit, just in case you wondered. if Factory had paid people to play New Order, they'd be as big as U2 now. it's not simple "promotion" either. sending in discs and press releases does not get your airtime. i forget the figure but another similar band, Franz Ferdinand, had their rec label pay truck loads of music to get their song on MTV. this isn't fair imho and immediatley strikes those bands off my list of reputable artists. New Order was my first musical obsession and part of the reason i love music so much to this day. their integrity in the beginning of their career, combined with the Smiths' infamously poor promotion imbedded a belief that music must stand on it's own merits, not on how many plays it gets on the radio/tv. All of the band mentioned on this thread, Strokes, Interpol, Killers etc. have relied on business men peddaling their severely pillaged sound in order to sell units. it may beat a lot of other stuff on the radio but what the fuck are you doing listening to the radio in the first place? that's a corporate brain washing tool and you're falling into their dirty little mitts.

now someone get me a foot stool, this horse is up to high.

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The Franz record had been out awhile before it "took off" due to the usual "business practices" of radio, and since the big time music biz has been unable to rid itself of this for a long time, I've no illusions that this will ever change, human nature being what it is.

I liken the SonyBMG case to speeding tickets: you can't catch everything and everyone, so a couple of offenders are named while it's business as usual, full-speed ahead, for everybody else.

Payola, payola, payola

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: another similar band, Franz Ferdinand, had their rec label pay truck loads of music to get their song on MTV.

the scandal was about franz ferdinand's label bribing stations to play their songs in return for free, quite expensive things. then e-mails from a boston radio DJ were leaked and...there you have it.

but i don't think saying that franz ferdinand had their label do it is accurate. the band probably had little, if any, hand in the scam. the labels put more pressure on the bands than vice versa. why do you think prince and george michael became so pissed off with their respective labels? don't blame the band here, blame the record companies.

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